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Excellent news!
This is a terrific race - at least Ft. Collins. I really hope they get this sorted out.
@smipypr @BrookeHoyer What is the rule regarding every sport needing a women's component? Something similar (like baseball / softball) or more Title IX-ish, where if you add a men's sport, you can add some unrelated women's sport?
I agree - football is absurd. I was shocked at the number of cited countries playing it. If baseball couldn't cut it, and the WBC is somewhere between arguable failure and marginal success, difficult to imagine NFL style football. $0.02
-But, until I saw those numbers on football, it reminded me of curling in that one country really seems to "own" it. (or, maybe I'm ignorant of both!)
@BrookeHoyer @smipypr Think Football has a chance?
Baseball is dropped as an olympic sport, but football wants in?
@BrookeHoyer Fair enough on the boxing and wrestling (I watch neither) - I just cannot get comfortable with "judge scored" events, which is why I simply cannot watch.
I guess my problem, in the simplest form, is that a judge deciding the final outcome is the in-general rule and only in rare exceptions will a competitor do something to take themselves out of the running. After watching the Gold and 4th place gymnastics finisher, can you honestly say the gold was better? Or rather, would you have picked that person as "the best" before seeing any sort of score?
In contrast, an official/umpire/referee deciding a final outcome is the exception. Obviously every baseball/football/soccer/basketball fan will recall a case where a game changed on a blown call - but in general, the fastest, strongest, smartest, whatever will be obvious - and you can see the score or your competitors' speed and work accordingly.
@smipypr So, despite all my comments, I've probably only watched about 1 hour -cumulatively - of olympics in about 12 years summer & winter. I think you made a good point that Cx doesn't need the olympics - and I don't particularly care whether cyclocross is in or out. It is noteworthy how the olympics have changed track cycling somewhat - but track needs it far more than Cx.
This made me chuckle a little: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/united-states-leads-china-real-medal-count-220604173--oly.html
I don't necessarily agree with running a piece like this, but it does make for interesting debate.
Good topic / article!
@BrookeHoyer Are you mistaking judging and officiating? A reasonable litmus test would be are there two (or more) competitors (or teams) in direct competition with each other and is the "judging" a dichotomous yes/no or a subjective score that requires adding and subtracting from an arbitrary standard?
In other words, if you take 100 random lay people or casual fans off the street, are 95 of them going to agree whether or not a soccer player was off-sides or a sprinter left or entered the sprinters lane? Will they all make very similar measurements on how far a shot was put? To your point, could they come to consensus on whether a wrestler's shoulders were pinned down, or would we get 100 possible different answers?
Take those same 100 folks and have them assign a score to a pummel horse or figure skating routine or snowboarding. In which scenario do you think you'll have more agreement from the objective observers? Which are you more likely to hear - the judge from Russia gave the lowest score to the German's routine, or the judge from Spain gave the French soccer player an 8.5 on the bicycle kick goal because he didn't stick the dismount?
If there is a slippery slope, we're already halfway down it. By the benchmark of "incredibly athletic" and "requires a judge" - Dancing with the Stars is a logical activity "worthy of Olympic inclusion," right? Certainly a hip-hop or salsa dance is far more athletic than 10m air rifle (or some track and field throwing events). It would be an awkward argument to say gymnastics and figure skating and synchro swim and even diving (until we start diving for distance or depth) all have less in common with DWTS than they do with track and field or soccer.... or cycling.
I vote for cutting sports that require a judge to assign a score, personally.
This has been a big debate on 303cycling as well.
Last year, I raced in the 35/4 and open 4s to much of the same results (back of the pack finish, although rarely lapped off). I also like the "A-B-C" thing. For some of the bigger races, 35/4 will be an absolutely packed field - sometimes up to the field limit. So, open 4s is a nice choice too - and my own humble opinion is that it is just as fast with a little less attitude. $0.02. I guess I also like the choice of sleeping in or getting up early. I'm happy to race any of these and I tend to pre-register so full fields don't bother me as much as others.
@lwaldman Absolutely! Already on my calendar, and I consider that part of my season. I'll miss a few being out of town. - Can we do the Wednesday short course races now with a Cx license or must it be MTB?
@aj2271 Oh my gosh! This is tremendous work!!! You have your own mini cyclocross course in your backyard. I'm so envious!
Indeed! WR, Lakewood, Morrison, Golden, whatever to Vail is a huge ride!
Great article. I'm so tempted by this madness...
@sherrijane58 Definitely. Cx races are very intense - but the people are very relaxed. It really is a wonderful environment.
My favorite weekend breakfast & Feedzone cookbook alteration = sweet rice porridge with diced granny smith apples as opposed to berries or banana. Huge winner.
@ThomSchoenborn This is actually great advice! Thanks for sharing Thom. In fact, I try to do this whenever possible during warm-up for other cycling disciplines as well.