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6 minutes ago on Time Trips: The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Time Traveller
@Sephora.IWishIWasScottish Personally, the only issue I have with e-books is that they cost a lot more than they should. Otherwise, they're wonderful. Speaking as a woman with shrinking-shelves disease, I absolutely love them.
@bringmeknitting @YaelMoise @sontaran17 @44905 @DrOswald I'm not fashion conscious either. It's just that, aside from my main occupation (I'm a grad-student, studying religion) I'm also a trained and certified makeup artist. Colour schemes were basically the first lesson. As to the Guardian... well... that's a story for another time. But yeah, I completely agree. We notice what's closest to own interests.
1 day, 12 hours ago on Rate & Discuss Into the Dalek
@The Lazy Cat Actually, I think The Mirror, with how they were reporting about her, would have made me laugh out loud to see.
@Amy says Peter Davison is the Thirteenth Doctor! The "top layer" line really was excellent. I really am getting a "the 4th Doctor does not like you" vibe off of him in this episode. It's really quite refreshing. :)
1 day, 14 hours ago on Rate & Discuss Into the Dalek
@sontaran17 @YaelMoise @44905 @DrOswald Well... commenting on it is no different than commenting on the score... or on the writing... or the lighting... or any other part of the production that makes up the episode. All of them make up the whole of the episode and if one of them is noticeably bad, then why am I not allowed to comment on it?
Secondly, I would be insane to put down an episode based solely on that shirt... but I didn't, so really, what's the problem here?
In the last X-Men movie, they replaced the makeup style that was used in the previous film, so that all the colours were much more saturated. It was very off-putting. It didn't ruin the movie.... but it was a problem.
It being a good movie doesn't mean I didn't notice the make up being too saturated, and the makeup being too saturated doesn't mean that I didn't think it was a very good movie.
Same here. The shirt wasn't what made or broke the episode for me. I did, however, notice it and, like I told 44905: It's a shirt... that the production decided to give her specifically to make a point about the episode. This was a shirt meant to be looked at. So, really, in looking at it good and hard, I was just doing what the production wanted me to do. You can't blame me for taking an item they wanted me to focus my attention on... and focusing my attention on it.
@sontaran17 @YaelMoise I appreciate the apology... but, I must confess that, no, I don't really understand your frustration with what you call my attitude. And I am saying this with no malice what so ever. I really don't understand it. :(
I mean... just to mention one example: if you find my comments in the Deep Breath thread, all of them, not just the one in my conversation with Lazy Cat about Clara, to be without substance... then, honestly, I don't know what to make of your comments. If you see 4 comments giving a lengthy run down of my issues with the episode... the equivalent of about a page and half of detailed writing if not two pages... as "lacking substance" or being "not constructive", then honestly, I don't understand you or what you expect of me.
I am sorry if you feel that I am attacking people and then saying "that they are trying to stomp out negativity"... but when someone's reply to my analysis in the Deep Breath thread was something like "you came in with negative thoughts and lo and behold you didn't like the episode!" and got about a dozen likes... you can see, I think, how I would think this place is not very friendly to even the most constructively minded negative commenter.
I mean, he doesn't know me from Adam. He can't read minds. Even if my comments showed concern before the episode aired, it doesn't mean I didn't approach it with some level of optimism and an open mind. His response was just belittling and negating... and people liked it in droves. So, yeah, I responded angrily.
I still am angry about it, to be honest.
However, where civility is shown, civility is returned. Bringmeknitting didn't agree with me here. He wasn't rude, though. So, I wasn't rude to him.
I am sorry if my response to some of these people offends you. I really am... but it is merely a response to what I see as a prevailing licence to attack and belittle. I see people piling on to anyone who says something negative. A person can't just say "I didn't like it" or "I've seen better episodes". They have to justify it.
I understand that this is a Whovian website and that people here defend the show... but it sometimes looks like people here think they're talking to non-Whovians. That those of us who say we disliked a certain episode are somehow against the show in general.
It's ok sometimes to dislike something in particular, while not disliking the show in general... and yet people here don't seem to see it that way... so, yes, I admit I might get extreme in yelling at them, but it frustrates me. The way I see it, they are being silly when they ought to know better. Especially after the article they had on here about the prevailing bad attitudes to be found in the community. I may go too far sometimes... but, like I said, where civility is shown, civility is returned.
Well... most of the time. I owe you an apology for how I replied to you when you complained about my calling Clara a *itch. I still do think that you're going too far and that she's not a real person... but I admit my reply was badly phrased.
That said, I really do stand by what I said. Civility is matched with civility... and I really do see the general consensus against negativity, even if not held by you, to be something worth attacking.
I am sorry if this bothers you. I honestly do. I am not just saying that. The disintegration of our relationship (if you can use that word for something as flimsy as talking on a website like this) has been rather troubling to me. I respect your opinions and read your posts with interest. So, really, I am sorry.
@bringmeknitting @YaelMoise lol I actually like the Akhaten speech... but mostly because I felt it WAS natural when it was made. I don't mind big bombastic speeches, so long as they flow along with the scenario. I agree that he picked her up for a moral compass... but... I don't know... maybe if he had started the speech by saying something about how this was why he picked her up? It just felt to me like they were having a nice conversation and then suddenly he was possessed by something and gave a speech. It fit the episode... just not the scene.
1 day, 15 hours ago on Rate & Discuss Into the Dalek
@44905 @YaelMoise @DrOswald They had no effect on you... or quite a lot of other people here. That doesn't mean they had no effect at all.
I really did hate her shirt. It was a horrible choice of colours and on a shirt that was intentionally meant to be looked at. They WANTED us to see her shirt. Her shirt was there for a reason. And... it was hideous. The bow-tie cardigan in Time of the Doctor was mean to be looked at... but it was nice. So, no complaints there. This was meant to be looked... and it was orange and blue. Clash nightmare.
The details make up the universe. They always matter. But when they are specifically pointed out for you to look at, they matter even more.
That said, I really do wish I was clearer up there when I listed my issues with the episode. I really do wish I sorted them between "major issues" and "nitpicks that just added annoyance when placed aside the major issues".
@bringmeknitting @YaelMoise Well... it felt to me like that speech came out of nowhere. It felt like "this is a piece we need to have here, so we'll put it in", rather than something that flowed as part of the conversation. I don't know... it just felt odd.
@DrOswald @YaelMoise "New Doctor. New rules"... and yet people say "The Doctor has never liked soldiers!" and they are right? ;)
Sorry. Had to say that. lol
Look, nitpicking is what I do. I do it about things I like... I do it about things I don't like. I've met plenty of other people who like to do it too. Some of them have replied to my posts. I've replied to them. All in all, I think a fan website is THE place to nitpick and go over the minutiae of an episode. If you disagree... honestly, and I say this with NO malice whatsoever... perhaps you had better not read my posts.
I like analysis. And yes... I admit I might go pretty far in it... but it's how I see things. Real life included. I know other people aren't like that... but I honestly don't see why my being like that should annoy you so much.
@bringmeknitting @YaelMoise @oomu Ross never lived long enough for it to be a question... but no, I don't think it was in the cards either way. You're quite right about that. I agree that he doesn't just take anyone... but there's some distance between that and "doesn't like people just because they're soldiers".
On a side note... I don't really understand how he could dislike THESE soldiers in particular, since all they seem to do is fight the Daleks. Like I said in the above, I get the feeling that this was more about his self hatred than about Journey, or even soldiers in general.
@DrOswald @YaelMoise They don't seem harsh. They seem needlessly angry.
As to "people with guns"... well, the girl never said she'll be bringing her gun along.
1 day, 16 hours ago on Rate & Discuss Into the Dalek
@bringmeknitting @YaelMoise I agree with you wholeheartedly that when you dislike someone anything will set you off... but I think that it was this a bit more than that. I think I wouldn't have blinked if she was holding the Times... or hell, even Metro lol. It's just that, for me, the Guardian is something of an "end of the spectrum" type newspaper. I don't know. Either way, it, along with the shirt, was really just a tiny thing. There were much bigger problems for me.
I really do regret not having made it clear in that comment up there that the shirt and the newspaper were nitpicks rather than a big issue. Put together with the big issues, they form a gestalt, but I wouldn't rank them WITH the big issues. I should have made that clear.
Anyway... what do I think Capaldi? He's interesting. Very... 4th Doctor sometimes. I don't like how they occasionally have him segue into a speech that makes no sense where they put it. The "I am the Doctor" speech and tonight's "Am I a good man" speech are the ones I mean. But when he's actually not "possessed by the writers" for speech-making purposes, and is just... being him? I quite like him. He didn't quite feel like the Doctor to me at the end of Deep Breath, mostly because he wasn't around enough in it, but he definitely feels like the Doctor to me now.
@DrOswald @YaelMoise I mentioned it because it was hideous. Why else would I dislike it if not because it's hideous? As to the newspaper, someone less angry than you already pointed that out and I agreed with him. I never said I dislike the show... and honestly, I don't put the shirt and the newspaper at the head of my reasons for disliking the episode. I'm sorry if the above is so unclear as to make you think that, but it still doesn't really justify your tone of voice. As to him disliking soldiers, no. He dislikes the military - the people with guns. This was the first time that the military was some sort of stain that can't be washed away even when you put the gun down. Ok... second time, if you count Jenny, but even there it could be argued that he said it because she was programmed by the machine.
@twoheartsonemind @YaelMoise You're too kind. :)
As to Jenna, you're quite right. Though I still was relieved when they took her out of that shirt.
@twoheartsonemind @YaelMoise Well, if you misread me, it's my fault. I should have been clearer that it was just a nitpick and that not all the points were on the same level. My apologies.
@AaronMcGahon1 @YaelMoise Reasons, not excuses.
But yeah, I guess you're right about the news paper. I guess she could have just picked it up for an article or something.
@twoheartsonemind @YaelMoise Well... I never said the shirt was a major issue. It was definitely a nitpick. Not at all major in the grand scheme of things.
But it was pretty hideous. :P
@bringmeknitting @YaelMoise Thank you. Nice to know there are some nice people left here.
@AaronMcGahon1 @YaelMoise Um... actually, I dislike her because of a long list of other reasons. The newspaper is an added reason, not a sole one. Please don't make it out like I said things I didn't say.
@sontaran17 @YaelMoise Yes. "Why bother". Please, just don't bother. There are people who like hearing what I have to say. You obviously don't. So just move along when you see my name. We'd both be happier for it.
@DrOswald @YaelMoise No, the Doctor never liked the military... he had never disliked soldiers. The military and soldiers isn't the same thing. Ross in The Poison Sky was a soldier. He liked Ross. Plenty of other examples. The Doctor had railed endlessly against the military mind... but this is the first time he's flat out rejected someone based on their being a soldier and not based on their behaviour or character.
And, honestly, I disliked the shirt because it's a hideous shirt and because it's a stupid idea to have her shirt reference the episode. They've not done it before, so it's hardly me hating the show. It's just me hating THIS.
And, to be honest, I quite liked Clara in this episode. I don't like that she's a Guardian reader... and I didn't like her shirt, but that's not because of some sort of blind hatred of her character.
Honestly, do you have to try and put people in little boxes? Could I not dislike her (and her shirt, and her taste in newspapers, and presumably her politics), but still be willing to judge her based on her individual appearances?
@bringmeknitting @YaelMoise You sound like you're mocking it... but it's true. I love the show, I hated the episode. So, yeah... of course I'll take the time to slag it off. It's a bad episode in a series that's usually much better. To be more accurate, it's a third bad episode in a show that's usually much better.
Oh, and as to her shirt... maybe it's because I was trained to look for colour combinations. Orange and blue are contrasting colours that you should never put together and it stands out to my eyes in a big way. I can see how other people might not spot it... but I did and it bothered me. Glad to hear it didn't bother you.
@sontaran17 @YaelMoise I remember when I called someone here sick. It was months ago... and the comment, as I recall, that I said that to, was pretty bad. You, or someone else replying to me back then, said it was a joke. That appears to be the answer to so many things here. I don't, however, think that everything in this world is permissible if you say "joke" after you've said it. Even more so if you don't even bother to say it, which was the case then.
I can see that really stuck in your head, since it was months ago. I'm sorry you feel that way. However, I am not sorry about any of my posts here lately. The above post not withstand (like I said, it was a burst of emotions rather than my usual reasoned posts because I'm in the middle of something), despite what you say here, I back up every negative comment I make with quite a lot of reasoning and thought.
And no, I don't "dedicate so much of my time to a show I hate". I dedicate so much of my time to a show I love... the last three episodes of which have been utterly dreadful to my mind.
So... because I completely disliked the last three episodes, I should leave? I should stop watching? Well... I should certainly, according to you, shut the hell up because no one wants to hear my views.
Except... that some people have quite liked my views. So, perhaps the problem isn't with me? I don't honestly believe in "I'm entitled to my opinions", so no... that won't be my argument here (it goes some way to show how little you've been paying attention to the posts you're complaining about, if you don't know that), but I will say that you're overly fond on this website of attempting to shut people up if they have anything negative to say about anything. Regardless of whether its thought out or not.
Now I admit that the above isn't my best work. Like I said... I haven't really had the time to write it properly. However, your rant against me in general, especially after my posts on Deep Breath, as being "without substance" makes me think that it doesn't really matter what I say, so long as it's negative, and doesn't cower and kow-tow to everyone else here who might feel differently.
@oomu @YaelMoise "You'll survive"
*sigh* Another one with little or no idea of what it means to be polite or respectful of other people.
10th was fond of Ross in "The Poison Sky", and even defended him against Ratigan's soldier-aimed insults. His attitude towards the soldiers there was based on their behaviour, not on their being soldiers. His attitude towards Torchwood was ALSO based on their behaviour, not their having guns. After all, he had no problems with them under Jack. He derides UNIT for being stupid and charging in, but if they are led by science, he doesn't seem to have a problem with them. He derides the military mind, not the people in it. And, honestly, I don't know why you say "Brigdier aside". I've heard him say the same thing about the Brigadier, when the Brig acted foolishly and in accordance with the Doctor's view of what a military mind is like.
As to being 100% against guns... that was Sarah Jane Smith.
It's one thing to dislike the military. It's another to dislike soldiers just for being soldiers. Doctor Who has never done that. It has never dehumanized the people in the armed services.
1 day, 17 hours ago on Rate & Discuss Into the Dalek
@The Lazy Cat @PaddyB How about Dalek Khan? He was a proper Dalek. He just went crazy, going through the time war, but he was still properly Dalek.
Um... I liked Deep Breath better. Seriously. Compared to this, I absolutely loved Deep Breath. I was having a hard time bringing myself to rewatch Deep Breath... but after this, I think I'd love to. Anything to bloody well cleanse my mental palette of what I just watched.
Not sure where to start. Is it that they bandy the words "good" and "evil" around as if they were the easiest thing in the world to define? Is it that the Dalek, when it was "good" at the beginning said "Destroy all the Daleks", so that even when it was "good" before it saw the hatred in the Doctor, it was still out to destroy? In other words, is it because their definition of "good" is so bloody obscure? Is it that they made Clara wear that, frankly, HIDEOUS shirt, just to symbolize the anti-bodies and the Daleks eyes (the external and internal ones)? Is it that Clara's a Guardian reader, which, quite frankly, means I'll never really like her (honestly... if she'd been clutching a copy of the daily fail, I'd have been equally irked. Not sure why she needed to be pegged down like that, politically speaking)? Is it because the "You're a good Dalek" thing made very little sense in the context? Is it because the Doctor was mean to that soldier girl in the end for reasons that probably had more to do with his self-hatred than with anything she did? Is it because I don't like a broad-spectrum rejection of soldiers, just because they're soldiers? Is it because I don't see Clara's last line as any sort of balancing point for what the Doctor just did? Is it because the direction/editing during Danny's crying scene was so bad that I actually found myself saying "Wow, that's just such a badly done scene" while I was watching it (which, if nothing else, means that it killed my suspension of disbelief)? Is it that Clara's sudden understanding of the inner workings of the Dalek's memory bank made very little sense, even if you take into account the information downloaded into her during The Bells of St. John? Is it that on three separate occasions during tonight's episode, I caught myself saying "I'm bored"?
Honestly, I don't know where to start saying how much I disliked it.
On the positive side of things, the theme is growing on me, which is an improvement. The episode was actually rather fun, crying scene apart, right up until the Doctor's sudden "Am I a good man?" spiel. Like his "I'm the Doctor" speech, it seemed to come out of nowhere and made very little organic sense in the scene. They were having a nice conversation and then... it came out of nowhere. It felt artificial. An odd segue. But, like I said, I was actually enjoying myself (crying scene aside) up until that point. Pity.
I'm sorry if this post is less than my usual level of writing, but I watched this episode during a break from writing a paper due Monday morning and I'm afraid I can't really refine it properly. Don't really have the time for it. I'll get back to this after I turn in the paper.
@Planet of the Deaf Starting to REALLY hate the lack of editing. Here I am, reading an interesting post like the above one, and suddenly it disappears, because that's the only way the author can edit it. I don't understand why they could bring back editing for the "Rate and discuss" thread, but not for all of them.
3 days, 21 hours ago on Into the Dalek Spoiler-Free Review
I had a multitude of qualms about Deep Breath... and not a single one about Eleventh Hour, not even when it first came out. So... Easy question, really.
3 days, 22 hours ago on Face-Off: The Eleventh Hour vs Deep Breath
@The Lazy Cat @YaelMoise You could just... you know... go watch some more episodes. ;) It's hardly as if one needs an excuse to delve into Who.
I would love to hear your opinion on other topics, perhaps we'd agree for a change, or even cross swords again (not that our exchanges were ever as violent as that implies). Either way, I would very much welcome it. :)
4 days, 21 hours ago on Deep Breath: The Very Best of Clara Oswald
Dear Ruth... well... it's a good read :)
As you know, I disagree with you on SO much of it, but it was still a very good read.
Please write more often. I for one, will only be happier for it.
4 days, 22 hours ago on Deep Breath: The Very Best of Clara Oswald
It's embarrassing, and childish... but I laughed SO hard at the Eccleston "all ears" joke. :D
5 days, 3 hours ago on Watch the Deep Breath Cinema “Prequel”
@The Lazy Cat After how Vastra treated her just minutes earlier... so would I :P
5 days, 7 hours ago on Deep Breath Review
@The Lazy Cat Ok, I'll grant you that her affection for the Doctor didn't seem to wane when he got older in TotD... but, first of all, it's not like she really had time to let it sink in that he's older. The whole thing happened so quickly for her: The Doctor's young and naked, then the Doctor's older, then the Doctor's old, then the Doctor is the older 12th. Bing-bang-boom. I don't think that judging her based on what she did when in that state of flux is really what counts. I do think that what she did when things finally settled down is what matters.
And what did we see when things slowed down? 16 minutes of her complaining about him being old. And then even after the Vastra's speech, we had her comment about his hair in the restaurant (which even the Doctor called her on for being not ok), and so on and so forth.
And as to the pinup... I'm really sorry, but it means absolutely nothing. MY sole "pinup" as a teen was a poster of a yellow swallowtail butterfly I got from a nature magazine. It doesn't mean I'm not at all shallow about looks or youth. It may not be my sole defining characteristic when looking for a partner, but it's definitely, undeniably there. Not having normal "pinup" posters in your room as a teen is not any kind of evidence for someone being "beyond looks". My having a swallowtail butterfly as my sole choice for posters doesn't mean that I'm only into "abstract, non-human ideals of beauty" and her having Marcus Aurelius doesn't mean she's only into "the inner man" or even that she's not "so easily distracted".
And I'm sorry, but I found her comment to Vastra to be EXTREMELY rude.
However much they pissed me off, I would think long and hard before seriously suggesting a married person was into me. Let alone in front of their spouse and in the middle of their front room.
5 days, 16 hours ago on Deep Breath Review
To be honest, what bothered me about that kiss was not the kiss... but how it was done. The whole "I've got stored up air. Here, I'll give you some" thing. If you're gonna have them kiss, then have them kiss. There's no need to give it an excuse. This felt awkward, and it shouldn't have been. Yes, it fit the situation, with them holding their breath and all... but it still sounded awkward to me.
It was trying for two birds with one stone. They should have hit the birds separately.
5 days, 19 hours ago on Addressing the Deep Breath Kiss
@TheOncomingHurricane @Adric the Genius Yeah, I just figured they did it "off-era".
@TheNightmareChild is LISTENing! @jameskirk27 United Colours of Dalekton.
6 days ago on Into the Dalek Promo Pics
@PaddyB That's exactly what I was thinking.
@ilyootha is back in home Universe @Sephora.IWishIWasScottish Actually, I've met loads of people who go "how do I get my money back". And I'm given to understand that in America they spend quite a bit of time and effort on that very question.
6 days, 1 hour ago on Deep Breath Review
@Planet of the Deaf @YaelMoise @The Lazy Cat I get that feeling, yes.
6 days, 2 hours ago on Deep Breath Review
@Grizzlybread Speaking as someone who goes on and on... trust me, it doesn't end as badly as you might think. Really, just leave us to it, if it bothers you. I assure you're we're quite happy. :)
@Planet of the Deaf @The Lazy Cat Wellll... I knew about places like this, back then, too. I just never really bothered with them. To be honest, I wouldn't have bothered with this place either, not to the point of actually posting, if it weren't for my impression that people here were EXTREMELY accepting of other people's views and very polite.
@Planet of the Deaf @YaelMoise @The Lazy Cat I haven't the faintest idea. I only found out what a controversial, divisive character she was when I got here. Before then... I just assumed everyone liked her. *blush*
@AztecsDaleksAndCavemen @The Lazy Cat I wonder if he was as debated when he was actually on the show as he is now, though.
@The Lazy Cat I don't know... Donna seems to be something of a consensus. Well... at least to the extent that she's not really "debated" all that much. Heaven knows I know people who dislike her. My brother is one, for example.
@Formerly EJB @YaelMoise @Grizzlybread Perhaps I read him wrong... but if that were the case, why suggest they "just enjoy it" and "don't go nitpicking"? No, it reads more like some other comments on here that have problems with over-analysis. Especially as that analysis seems, to them, to lead to a negative response.
@The Lazy Cat There have been some major discussions about Amy, though mostly in the context of the "Is Moffat sexist" debate. Not as a stand-alone issue. I've heard some serious debates about Martha, but again, this was in the context of a bigger debate - that of the Doctor and romance. And yes, like others have said, Rose is hotly contested. Really hotly contested. In her case, it's definitely stand-alone and quite comparable.
@The Lazy Cat @YaelMoise Yes, on rereading, I can see that you were saying that. And I thank you. It really is an interesting bit of insight into her personality. It doesn't necessarily mean I'll like her better... I have some VERY good reasons for considering weak insecure people, who compensate for their weaknesses and insecurities by use of bravado, self-centeredness, and an obsession with controling their environment and their fellow-man, to be less than acceptable. So... not necessarily.
Still... it does make me potentially see her in a new light. And... well... like I said... this requires thought.
@Grizzlybread So, basically, you're saying "Don't think". And "if anything bothers you about what you just saw... concentrate really hard about how wonderful the show is, and that bad feeling will go away".
Pardon me, but it seems like a silly suggestion. There are shows out there where I shut my brain off and just watch them like that. Shows where I have zero expectations and am never disappointed, as a result.
I would never list Doctor Who among them. For me, the mere suggestion, is insulting to the show. Yes, like Peter Davison once said, it's best not to pull too hard at the threads (I've given up years ago on asking how come the moon was still waiting for us when we came back from the Medusa cascade...), but that doesn't mean you should completely shut your brain off and just chant "awesome show... awesome show... awesome show...".
I think about things. It's what I do. I think about what pleased me and why... and, yes, I think about what displeased me and why. I wouldn't bother with it if it wasn't an awesome show... but it is, so I do.
Personally, I find all these "You're watching it wrong" comments to be rather offensive. I mean, who are you to tell me how to watch it? I'm here, aren't I? I like the show, don't I? So, what does it matter to you if I analyze it?
6 days, 3 hours ago on Deep Breath Review