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Dodds is clearly still tasting bile from TAMU (and MU and NU) not cow-towing to UT's directives like the rest of the B12 did and heading for greener pastures. This is on the heels of his 'our worst years are better than Missouri's best years' comment a few weeks back, which as was pointed out (1) is completely false, (2) was something he'd been waiting to say for 2 years since he chose to pull it out at the oddest time, and (3) is completely ridiculous because given Texas' over-the-top resources ($, recruits, population, etc.), ut SHOULD be that much more successful than MU and every other athletic program outside of maybe 5 nationwide.
This also is exactly the same tripe that Kansas spews about playing Mizzou ('they chose to leave' and 'we'll play only if/when it is advantageous for us') while Mizzou (like A&M) says anywhere, anytime, while Kansas has chosen to schedule fellow B12 escapee Colorado. I suspect Texas has decreed that no B12 schools are to play TAMU or MU for the foreseeable future, and the others will subserviently comply until Texas says otherwise.
2 months ago on Texas A.D. Dodds Blames End Of A&M Series On A&M (Also Talks Expansion)
I don't think the B1G would want to add Missouri - they had their chance and chose not to, choosing Nebraska instead. Nebraska (as well as Maryland and Rutgers) received 'junior' memberships in the B1G, meaning it will be quite a few years before they get either (a) a full share of B1G Network $ or (b) CIC research $. Different rumors have indicated that Mizzou was offered the same deal as Nebraska and said only if they were full members on Day 1, but of course that could be just over-proud bluster; who knows. In any event, I think it is clear that the B1G is focused Eastward at this point. StL and KC are good TV markets, but they're not east coast markets and besides - BTN is already on my cable here in StL - the B1G doesn't need Mizzou to get on StL cable.
I also don't think Mizzou would go if offered. The money is about the same, and the CIC money would be a benefit, but Mizzou and its fans have fully embraced the SEC move and love where they are now. MU loves that they were a full partner on Day 1, and have been treated fairly. While some SEC members may have more pull than others, there is no longer a Texas-esque 900 lb. gorilla controlling most decisions. The competition may take some time, but the commitment is there. And its a lot warmer on the Gulf Coast in November than it is on the Great Lakes. MU is SEC now, and has burned the ships - no looking back, and no desire to.
5 months, 3 weeks ago on You’ve Got Questions, We’ve Got Answers: From Why Your Search Is Taking So Long To SEC Expansion
Jones was amazing, Mizzou couldn't contain him - obviously. Awards well deserved. Mizzou needed to take advantage of opportunities when they were there to win this game, and obviously didn't (HOW does Marcus Lucas not catch that ball at the end of the first half!), not turn the ball over (fail) and not do stupid stuff (I know what you were trying to do Gary, but don't call the fake there; not down 4 in the 3rd qtr!).
It's time to give the Richardson stuff a rest - he has been appropriately muzzled by Pinkel, and apologized to Richt after the game. It's over.
8 months, 1 week ago on UGA's Jones Lands SEC, National Honors
Wow. What an uninformed load of worthless blather. Mizzou has made great advances in its athletic budget, facilities and - most importantly - performance. Is the SEC a step up and a challenge? Absolutely, but MU is good athletic department and program that will do just fine in its new home.
If I read one more psycho post - kU and Arky posters, typically - that MU had never won a national title I'm going to scream. Are they perennial champions/contenders? Of course not, but they do have national titles in baseball and track. They also have a few seasons in football where they were 'in the argument' for those 'mythical' national championships (you know, the kind that inflate 'Bama's football and kU's b-ball titles).
Finally, I live in Missouri, did NOT attend the University of Missouri (at least in Columbia), and I'm completely stoked about the move. So are the vast majority of people in the state - in STL, KC and outstate.
Thanks to those who've welcomed the two new guys. And kU trolls, please go elsewhere.
10 months, 3 weeks ago on Was The SEC, Missouri, And Texas A&M Union A Smart Move?
@Tampa Dude To respond to one of your questions/points, I'm not saying that it is THE reason Mizzou was not given the B1G invite over Nebraska (I agree "Brand"/"Program" as you allude to was the biggest reason), but the Big Ten Network is already on basic cable in the St. Louis market, so adding Mizzou would not have had the big cable bounce that one might have otherwise expected. As for Nebraska, it is clearly a smaller market than MO, but a market with almost unparalled market penetration - everyone in Nebraska seemingly follows NU football.
In hindsight, still very glad it worked out this way - better sports, better money, better weather, growing region rather than shrinking region. If Mellinger really wants to play the hindsight game throw all three options out there, and I think the vast majority of MU fans would take the one we got.
12 months ago on Will The Circle Be Unbroken: How A Mistake 20 Years Ago Has Nuked Conferences And Rivalries
Good article, John. No Mizzou regrets whatsoever, and the irony of B12 apologists wondering that is amazing.
I also appreciate the insight on the B12 TV contract. The bottom line is that the new B12 TV contracts MAKE NO SENSE. It is by definition a less valuable product than the ACC should be. Apart from the UT/OU game each year and to a lesser extent OU/OSU, they're paying these numbers for TTU v ISU, Baylor and ku, etc. This has to be ESPN and Fox propping up the league (in ESPN's case, maybe to protect their LHN investment).
Except I don't think South Carolina was in the ACC. They were an independent when they joined. Maybe they would've received an ACC invitation somewhere along the way, but I thought they left the ACC at some earlier point, so maybe not.
Other than that I would like to think Mizzou would have wound up in the same place anyway, but we'll never know.
@jwolfe @big12source +1 to sfprman and jwolfe. And TAMU did in fact win the B12 previously. For most (other than perennial doormats) football success is cyclical - some schools have longer periods of success than others, but MU and TAMU will have periods of success in the SEC, just as they have in the B12. I'm just not sure what that argument has to do with anything anyway - MU and TAMU moved for other reasons: TAMU wanted to strike out on its own and get away from ut, and MU wanted to make certain it didn't get left high and dry the next time ut and OU decided to flirt with the Pac12 or whomever. The higher revenues, equal revenue sharing (yes, I know the B12 has that for Tier 1 and 2 now; a recent development) and collaborative atmosphere are all plusses, too.
1 year ago on Internal FSU Battle Playing Out Externally; More Proof That The Tail's Been Wagging The Dog
Great article and summary. As noted, much of this FSU/Clemson B12 talk seems to start in WV, the place that was fairly begging for an SEC or ACC invite all last year. I believe the Dude himself pretty much pegged the time and date of the WVU SEC intro press conference several times. Insisted WVU would get in over MU.
These rumors may have some merit to them (perhaps not given later news of the day), they may be leverage balloons for FSU (this, I could believe), or they may be the jilted ramblings of a wacked out fan base mad they didn't get the offer they really wanted. Just saying.
1 year ago on Major Conference Realignment Definitely/Maybe/Possibly On The Way
Looking at the two linked stories again, while Mizzou did have Miller's cousin and his one recruit up, the SN story is about a separate, also Memphis-based AAU team that visited and had offers extended. Mizzou is clearly working Memphis.
1 year ago on Mizzou Close To Naming New Hoops Assistant
Agreed, but I'm OK with the gold version of the birds on the bat for two games at the start of the season because it means the last season ended very well.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.
1 year, 1 month ago on Mizzou’s New Nike Duds Not As Bad As they Might Have Been
Mr. Slive is correct. Frank Viverito, Chairman of the St. Louis Sports Commission, will soon be calling. We'll take either 2017 or 2018 - both if you're so inclined. Try the toasted ravioli, it's great.
I'll be curious if the SEC would want it at Scottrade or the Jones Dome. Scottrade would make for a much better atmosphere, same as your comment about Philips vs. the Ga. Dome.
1 year, 2 months ago on Slive Sees Future SEC Tourneys In Atlanta, Nashville, And...
Mizzou will try to scrape by without him. Thanks for the concern.
1 year, 2 months ago on New SEC Permanent Rivals? That's News To Mizzou
Despite Mizzou's own efforts to deep-tease this, I'm waiting until the unveiling. Clearly the "M" on the helmet is being replaced by the tiger head, but I'm hoping for something more along the lines of the NFL Jaguars helmets than the over-sized internet guesses that have been rolling around. I also suspect that some of the screen grabs may be the special or one-off unis rather than the week-in, week-out versions. Again, we'll see. There are plenty of Mizzou fans plenty worried about what will be unveiled on 4-14. Recruiting advantage or not, we don't want some clown show.
1 year, 2 months ago on Pinkel Expects Backlash From Nike-fication At Mizzou
I think most Mizzou people, including Pinkel, knew that this - annual rivalry game with Arkansas, either cross-divisional or by winding up in the same division - is where it would eventually wind up, but thought that it would take a while and during that period Mizzou would keep the A&M games and be able to establish itself recruiting-wise in the rest of the SEC footprint. It is the prospect of this change happening sooner rather than later that is a surprise.
Painful, but worth it. On to bigger, better, and certainly more fair and equal things! I think you hit the nail on the head in terms of the difference between MU/TAMU - MU came later and the Big XII was none too pleased that MU wouldn't stick around for one last lame duck season and they want to recoup some of what they had to kick in to get WVU out of the Big East, so they weren't going to make the same concessions to MU as TAMU.
Anyway, not nearly the really giant numbers that were being thrown around. As the billboards say - Proud to be SEC.
1 year, 2 months ago on Big 12 Exit Fees Set For A&M, Mizzou (And They're Not That Bad)