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Only problem I have with the episode is the name "Boneless" given to the Boneless. It just sounds so, boneless. The name felt without soul or substance, rather underwhelming compared to the originality, threat and potential of the monster.
Just felt it could have a more powerful name befitting of such a great monster. In fact, it's so good I think it's right alongside the Weeping Angels!
18 hours, 35 minutes ago on Rate & Discuss Flatline
@Dr. Oswald Oh yeah! Although I didn't need the explicit mention of "Addams Family" for it to knock myself out. The very scene of hand out of the TARDIS scuttling away left me rolling!
18 hours, 43 minutes ago on Rate & Discuss Flatline
Despite being a new Who writer, Jamie Mathieson's script contains several elements of what makes some of previous episodes of Who great.
Opening with hilarious, nonsensical stuffs (Time OTD),
Developing threat with bickering humour between protagonists (Day OTD, adventure of River Song)
A unique monster which toys with viewers' senses and imagination (Angels, Silents, Vastra Nerada)
Use enemy's power against itself (Blink, Day of the Moon)
Epic speech (11th's era)
Only thing that's missing is some timey-wimey stuff.
Inadvertently, this episode could be renamed as "How to be the Doctor" or even "How to write an episode of Doctor Who". He even suggested as such in the script, "rule one of BEING the Doctor" and with the Doctor guiding Clara on what to do at every step of the way.
Get a companion, establish local knowledge.
Don't do weird things and scare people off, despite being always guilty himself.
Take charge when group is disorientated and disorganized.
Lie if necessary, to instill hope and to harness their superpower of fear.
Save life whenever possible, move on quickly whenever inevitable.
Always use your companion's special skill.
Use your enemies' power against themselves.
End the threat with an epic speech.
However by stripping it down to its bare elements, I'm concerned that it might create an obvious checklist of sorts for future writers to follow. Perhaps writers already had a list to refer to, but I'm concerned it gets so obvious that even viewers could see way too many ideas rehashed and put in. Originality may suffer until every other episode feels pretty much the standard fare.
Still, I love this episode and it's easily my favourite so far even though I have a feeling the finale would be even better! With all those loose story points yet to be tied up into one big Moffat loop. Moral dimensions and dilemmas, soldiers, officers and pushing beyond oneself, all settled within the Promised Land and all the robot races.
18 hours, 56 minutes ago on Rate & Discuss Flatline
Being the episode right after the epic that's Flatline and just before the 2-parter finale, I have a feeling it's going to be the most forgettable episode of Season 8. Which isn't helping Mr Pink though.
1 day, 7 hours ago on Next Time: In the Forest of the Night
@SteveWillis @Clara Who would make a good Doctor! Oh dear I accidentally deleted my original comment.
"I name you, THE BONELESS!".
1 day, 7 hours ago on Doctor Who Extra: Flatline
"In this episode he's forced to conclude that maybe he's making Clara worse".
"She's picking up from him things that he thinks are necessary, but of which he is not proud".
Grim foreshadowing indeed!
@A Greek Time Lord in 2D She's the woman in the shop! That "chosen well" line pretty much confirmed it.
1 day, 8 hours ago on Rate & Discuss Flatline
The first and only episode I had no hesitation to voting a perfect 10. It would make the score irregardless if it's my favourite Clara or any other companion.
And of course, Clara is an exceptional Doctor! Goodness has nothing to do with it though..... Some grim foreshawdowing...
Love the moments with the TARDIS! Hand outside TARDIS scuttling to safety, was laughing so hard! TARDIS switching to siege mode, very Moment-ish Pandorica-ish Gallifray box.
THIS IS PHENOMENAL!!! THE ABSOLUTE BEST EPISODE SO FAR!! And I'm not saying it because it's so Clara-centric, but everything from beginning to the absolute end!
2 days, 10 hours ago on The Complete Eighth Series DVD Extras
@Demeggy Even better. Watch it with Sophie!
Bring along your hat and umbrella and stuffs.
2 days, 11 hours ago on Flatline Clip
Wow. Just wow. Even Clara haters would love this episode now.
Cue conspiracy theories of BBC releasing this clip to pacify the cynics
2 days, 10 hours ago on Flatline Clip
Only from the mind of the Mad Moffat can one see a harmless storyboard drawing as an inter-dimensional threat!
3 days, 15 hours ago on Flatline Clip
@The Finn I'll put that on a T-shirt!
3 days, 20 hours ago on Flatline Clip
When the Doctor was confronting the Mummy directly after taking in Maisie's grief, I actually find him going out of his way to show empathy towards Maisie, taking up valuable seconds of the 66 connecting with Maisie and her grandma, pony, father.
It felt out of place at that time with a threat so imminent upon him. I wonder if it's something to do with Clara scolding him on manipulating others and being overly cold and callous which woke something up in him, or he's just doing it for Clara's sake.
3 days, 18 hours ago on 12 Great Moments From Mummy on the Orient Express
My wildest dream for the fate of Clara and Jenna.
The Doctor regenerates into Clara!
Jenna becomes the next Doctor!
There. I've said it.
4 days, 10 hours ago on Flatline Clip
I have a feeling this is going to be hilarious, in a weird sort of way..
It's really amazing how the team could break into new territories yet again with novel ideas after novel ideas!
@Ottoman14 nah, not hate, just respectful difference of opinions.
I for one feel that because Clara had been through so much with the Doctor, from his brightest to his darkest days, with the major roles and responsibilities she'd accumulated through all her adventures, nothing seem to faze her anymore. Really nothing. So when Doctor is tossed off the scene, but still very much around to guide her, she's relishing in this adventure to be him, making the impossible decisions.
"I'm the Doctor, and you can call me Clara! "
The no.1 song to first come into my mind is Abigail's Song, mostly because it's the first song in my playlist of Doctor Who OSTs. Then when I saw it's only ranked 2nd, I wonder which even better song I missed out, when I remembered very quickly the masterpiece that's the Long Song.
And then I got trolled.
But I had a great laugh. Great work there!
5 days, 6 hours ago on Who Tunes: Ranking the Lyrical Songs of Doctor Who
Wow. Split right down the middle! Looks like this is one episode is one which'd never come to a consensus, not even a majority! Both results ended up quite a surprise, especially the lights on/off vote. Totally unexpected!
6 days, 7 hours ago on Kill the Moon: Who Was Right? Thoughts & Your Vote
"I'm the Doctor, and you can call me Clara"
SQUEALS IN DELIGHT!!
6 days, 16 hours ago on Next Time: Flatline
There is something strangely romantic about the way Clara talks about and towards Doctor. Sure she likes him, and she's got Danny too, but it feels more like guilty love than mere platonic. Almost like an affair of sorts.
Or maybe it's just her addiction symptoms. Her responses, her apprehension of not going to experience this again, certainly fits.
6 days, 18 hours ago on 12 Great Moments From Mummy on the Orient Express
Lies, as what a certain wise lady might re-phrase it,
"I didn't always tell you what you wanted to hear, but I always tell you what you needed to hear."
1 week ago on Rate & Discuss Mummy on the Orient Express
I must admit I didn't spot the whole thing about lying at first.. I thought that Clara did meant what she said at the end about Danny being ok and all that, I'd imagined there's some off-screen conversation between them and they would know each other well enough to have coded conversations like the little phone call at the end. I initially thought Clara did meant to tell Danny she'd be continuing in her travels with that malfunctioning, double emotions "i love you" line.
Only after having rewatched it Clara's expression betrayed something else. And eventually noticed the whole episode had loads of references to lying, right from the very beginning (when the TARDIS landed).
YES!!! PERKINS PLEASE!!!
1 week, 1 day ago on Doctor Who Extra: Mummy on the Orient Express
Although there's one thing I'm not exactly sure of. All those misdirection from BBC.
Many of us thought this is going to be Clara-lite, but it turned out she's at her most gorgeous here than ever!
This is the only episode so far that I didn't went in blind but instead read up on the advance reviews etc, and was slightly annoyed at being deceived of Clara's presence. Teasers from BBC all seems to suggest Clara is leaving the Doctor due to this episode, but turned out the exact opposite. Had an emotional roller coaster due to this, which might have made the highs of the episode even higher than otherwise. hmmm...
Now I'm more undecided as to whether to go in each episode blind, or get hyped up with all those pre-air teasers just to ride along what BBC has set up for us
1 week, 1 day ago on Rate & Discuss Mummy on the Orient Express
They say Kill The Moon is the one to change everything? Pfftt. THIS EPISODE is the one to change everything.
THE DOCTOR IS FINALLY CLEARLY HERE!!
Oh that scene on the pebble beach... (Was that New Earth?) Capaldi at his most awesome-inspiring, almost had a tear in my eye... He may do somethings that seems harsh or cruel, but underneath him he knew the only choices he had were all bad ones, and deep down he certainly isn't what he portrays himself to be. So that's what Capaldi means when he gave us the 3 words "Trust No One".
@Typo42 @Clara Who is playing Doctor Who Legacy. unbeknowns Yes indeed. But Courtney reached for the button too. There were two hands on that device when it's being aborted.
1 week, 1 day ago on 2nd Opinion: Kill the Moon
@whitewhim Yet another deeply insightful comment from you Mr whitewhim. Really enjoyed reading stuffs from you on this!
Looking at all the divisive posts around here, here's really no easy answer on this isn't it?
1 week, 1 day ago on Kill the Moon: Clara or the Doctor?
I'd probably be blasted for this, but I think Courtney pressing the button at the end is cause she didn't want to be nuked at that instant, rather than saving the chick.
And yes, I do think she's a highly self-centered, attention seeking teenager who loves to get on people's toes. Really have to see how she develops from here on before I would change my mind.
I love Ellis George's portrayal of Courtney though. Absolutely spot on!
@Mr 11 That's the point, nobody knows for sure.
But the way Clara addresses the planet seems to suggest that Earth would be threatened if they don't do anything. So effectively, Clara's speech had made the decision for humanity already.
1 week, 2 days ago on Poll: Lights On or Lights Off?
@ Notsosmartguy He does. He mentioned he knows that eggs are not bombs, and they generally don't destroy their nests.
Cause there's no way for humanity to know what's going to happen, or what's going to not happen. Fear of the unknown, or even fear of the different, humans have shown time and time again this irrational illogical fear alone is enough for them to kill for.
Let alone this fear of an alien, a lifeform so vastly greater (in size) that's already wrecking havoc before it's even born. There's only one choice, not because we love killing but because we do what it takes to survive.
Only for survival.Also because the way I am being briefed by that gorgeous lady on the telly that it's the life of all mankind on Earth vs that one creature in the moon, there's really no debate.
However if she only asked if we should nuke it or not, while having no mention of what might happen to Earth, that would be a tougher choice.
Is that the whole pre-credits scene we saw?
Also what did Capaldi said towards the end of his intro? Sorry couldn't make out his low voice slightly under the breath mumbling, not his accent though.
1 week, 3 days ago on Mummy on the Orient Express Clip & Intro
@whitewhim @ilyootha @Exalos I think you nailed it right there, where so many of us had previously failed.
1 week, 3 days ago on Kill the Moon: Clara or the Doctor?
@The Lazy Cat is Hiding from the Mummy @Clara Who is pushed beyond, fascinated No More I think the test wasn't solely for Clara. I think the test and hence the push is meant for humanity, with Clara acting as the facilitator given her experience with the Doctor.
Humanity has to be the one to go through the process, of deciding whether to kill it or not. And having made the decision, Clara, with all her experience and Doctor's absolute faith, override the wrong decision. With the ensuing hatching and laying, humanity realize its errors, had their guilt tripped and subsequently inspired to travel to the stars.
If it's solely Clara's decision to make, rest of humanity would simply be a spectator and everything else would be as-you-were.
Having said that, sounds like it's actually a bigger test for Clara than just deciding to kill the moon or not. She also had to have the courage to override humanity. Not Doctor's intention I would bet, his eyes is only on humanity's decision. And it is this added weight on Clara, to override all of her kind, which the Doctor take into consideration, that Clara found it too much.
Jeez do I sound like I'm contradicting myself?
This is the first time in this series that I decided to read the Advance Review.
Because it's supposedly Clara-lite.
1 week, 3 days ago on Mummy on the Orient Express Advance Review
@kainanite This is just brilliant! I wrote something similar at another article, sharing your view too, that sci-fi science is fine, but when it goes against our very established laws of this world, it no longer is. Some form of explanation, any that's consistent with the premise of the show, would make it good.
Even though the episode's writer didn't put it in, doesn't mean the fandom can't come up with alternative explanations for it. And your dialog illustrated it perfectly!
Regarding bit about gravity going haywire around Courtney, I had the wild thought that the creature was having a gravity-wave fart of some sorts, hence affecting such a small concentrated area.
1 week, 3 days ago on Rate & Discuss Kill the Moon
So after the mandatory 3rd re-watch I had a slightly different view. That the Doctor did indeed do humanity a huge, tough love favour by letting Clara go through this. Sure she didn't take it so well, but such milestone, bold leap into uncharted territory, away from her (and humanity) comfort zone often is hard to swallow the 1st time. To react to it is perfectly normal, even in the way Clara is reacting.
Like Danny said, leaders, officers, coaches, teachers often pushes you so hard you find yourself doing things you wouldn't otherwise able to, and that's for the purpose of fully realizing your potential and beyond. Just ask any sports athlete and they'd say it's necessary in the pursuit of sporting excellence. I empathize with Clara, and would lend an arm or a shoulder if it's someone close to me in the same situation. But I also recognize that it's for her good and after this experience, she'd emerge much stronger than before.
Perhaps it's my background in such push-beyond-limits scenarios, or that I find today's generation of kids way too protected compared to decades ago. But I feel some amount of hardships is needed to really grow.
1 week, 4 days ago on Kill the Moon: Clara or the Doctor?
Initially I'm with the camp of "It's Doctor Who, who cares about the science!". But upon reading the list of ludicrousy, I must admit I'm swayed.
There is sci-fi science, the bigger-on-the-inside, the regeneration and the lot, that's perfectly ok in the premise of the show as it describes an alien world pudding brains like us would never fathom. But there's also anti-science, little things that are so blatantly wrong that no amount of science-fantasy explanation could do. They go against the very fundamentals of science already well-established to us and not some alieny rules brand new to humans. To the scientifically-inclined, these things affect our enjoyment, while the scientifically-not-so-keen simply brush them aside while focusing on the absolutely superb plot revolving around the characters. It must be clear that we're not against the science-fantasy part, we love how they set our creativity racing too. But when laws of physics of the world we live in are totally ripped up. that impossible itch to relieve would really rile us up.
However instead of going up in arms over it, I think it's up to the fandom to come up with plausible explanations consistent with the world of Doctor Who. The writer may not be as inclined to set it straight as he goes about the game-changing character development, that doesn't mean we the sci-fi geeks can't do it. Allow me to throw some darts blind.
Eggs increasing in mass: Maybe the moon-fetus was also feeding on the space debris hurling around, or on the spider-germs which mutated and grew due to Sun's or some far-away cosmic radiation? An Earth-egg would be largely zero sum in mass, but out there in space who knows what else is coming in?
Localized gravity shift around Courtney: Perhaps one of the creature's ability is to emit gravity-waves, that when it "shifted" it also released a pulse of it which sends the small space around Courtney haywire in terms of gravity. Almost like a fart really.
Light reflected off Earth blinding to Moon: I guess a coincidental lunar eclipse would suffice? (That's today for those of you in Asia).
Sound travelling via vacuum: Perhaps it's not sound waves heard on the beach, but some telepathic waves which others perceive as sound when they receive it. In fact humans have a tendency to perceive sounds differently/wrongly depending on the visual stimulus they receive. Can't remember the name of the psychologist which documented this though.
The biggest bane so far, laying an egg exact same size right after hatching: It's a space creature, perhaps it's just got a different mechanism of laying its egg. It could simply lay out a tiny embryo, but construct a moon-shell around it (by flapping its wings?) while filling it up with some embryonic fluid which would in turn depend on cosmic stuffs to fully hatch it over millions of years.
So let's hear some of your theories!
1 week, 4 days ago on Kill The Moon Review
For all those bits about unbelievable science, instead of going up in arms about it, I think it's up to the fandom to come up with explanations consistent with the world of Doctor Who.
For example the bit about laying the egg same size as the one it hatched, it could be explained that the moon-creature simply laid a tiny embryo, and then building a gigantic shell over it (by flapping its wings?) while filling it up with embryonic fluid. The embryo then grew to its size over millions of years, feeding on space debris or cosmic radiation.
1 week, 4 days ago on Doctor Who and The Hype Train
To give an honest feedback, I think the question phrased is too binary. I for one will always be behind Clara (if it isn't obvious enough), and I do think Doctor is being a little overboard, making assumptions and decisions for mankind (by forcing them to make their own decision), and pretty much deceiving Clara and leaving her all on her own, at a loss. He could have done things differently to assure Clara that it's gonna be fine, while still empowering Clara (and mankind) to make their decision, and achieving what Doctor set out to do, guiding mankind into the stars.
But I also think Clara has over-reacted. Scold him, slap him, shout at him all she will, if only to relieve the stress and frustration built up over her last hour. However to allow herself to be overridden with emotions is uncharacteristic of someone who'd traveled through time and space, saved the entire Time War from itself and having the infinite possibilities in her all in one leaf, and yet balanced her Earth life all so well. We all know that one moment when allowing emotions getting the better of you ending in regret, and I think this is Clara's moment.
Well said. I see this as a half-empty-half-full interpretation. Some people would fully appreciate the good things in an episode while acknowledging the limitations, some others would just go on and on about the not-so-good parts while simply chucking the good things as minimal requirement in a show that's supposed to be so damn good. Unfair, unreasonable and unappreciative.
1 week, 5 days ago on Doctor Who and The Hype Train
I actually found it jarring for Courtney to eventually turn out to be President of US. It just seemed too huge a step to make from being a disruptive influence, even if there's still 35 years of growing up to go. Unless this is actually a subtle jibe at potus. Well if Nixon or Bush could be president, so could anyone?
1 week, 6 days ago on 12 Great Moments From Kill the Moon
I must say I find it very hard to give a rating for this episode. It's receiving differing opinions, some empathize with Clara, some appreciated Doctor's intention more. Some found Courtney real and sweet, some just finds her irritating. Some would have blown up the moon and not risk one's own survival (given no Time Lord help), some are adamant to take the moral road and pray things turn out well.
In the end I gave it an 8, the high marks for the ensuing discussion it's able to generate, but not any higher cause it's hard to come to a consensus.
1 week, 6 days ago on Rate & Discuss Kill the Moon
I did notice the emphasis on womenhood initially too, and the underlying connection to abortion. Although I admit i didn't manage to add 2 and 2 together here, until this article! Nice spot there, adds more depth like you said.
2 weeks ago on 12 Great Moments From Kill the Moon
@ilyootha It sure offers dividing opinions, but in the most constructive sense! Not at all divisive or putting one camp up in arms against the other. I for one love this difference in opinions and the ensuing discussions, which I found both sides to be fully respectful of each other.
@Romanadvoratrelundar @Clara Who is pushed beyond, fascinated No More Agreed. It is on a personal level that the Doctor is being really mean to Clara, and on an individual level that Clara found it too much for herself. Even though on the big picture, casting emotions aside, it all turned out well. Guess it's the lack of empathy touch which got many riled up.
2 weeks ago on Rate & Discuss Kill the Moon