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Wow, this is surprising.
I'm not sure if we're watching the same show here, but one thing for certain, we have many different things we (don't) like about the show.
I agree with the characters being mostly bland, but this episode holding such importance to the character-centric arc, something gotta give. If more development or *ahem* "dimensions" are added to the supporting cast, that's gonna divert attention on the main focus of this episode ("Clara, my Clara, I have chosen well...") Otherwise it's gonna feel even more rushed than it already is.
One thing that this review touched upon, with few others picking it up, is how the Doctor is worried Clara may be turning to the worse, with the increasing lying (even to himself!) and the slowly eroding human connection she had with others. Rigsy tried to show Clara his proud work in the tunnels, but Clara just brushed him off without an extra look. The Doctor asks her if she's ok, given that many people have died. But she's rather happy, which she shouldn't be, even though on balance she saved more. All these got the Doctor concerned, maybe even annoyed. But on the other hand Missy....
11 hours, 4 minutes ago on 2nd Opinion: Flatline
@Desgar @mrclever Allow me to offer a new take too.
All the events in NameOTD still stands, the overgrown TARDIS grave is still there and everything that happened still happened. Important thing is instead of the TARDIS being the actual grave of 11, it's a CONSTRUCTED make-believe grave by 12, with the time-tear up until 11th's death, River's tomb and all, for his past self and Clara to jump into. He most likely went back near the end of Deep Breath, before the "you've redecorated" stuff, as we see the tomb is still of the old TARDIS console.
All this to preserve the timeline. Timey-wimey stuff.
14 hours, 39 minutes ago on Another Take on “Clara Who”
I fully agree with the first point, that the same thing some fans love, some hate.
I agree with the second broad point too, that there's a lack of, or even negative portrayal of the Doctor. However I don't agree with pinning the blame of Doctor's negative portrayal on Clara's supposed negative treatment of the Doctor.
Right from the start we know that this Doctor is going to be darker, more alien, more manipulative, more snarling, fierce and ruthless. Some would love this interpretation of the Doctor, reminiscent of a certain high functioning sociopath, some would hate it for being too far from the all-goody hero they knew the Doctor to be.
It is because of this, that the audience needs a Watson to emotionally connect with, that Clara is pushed to the forefront into order to preserve the shadow around Twelve. Same thing goes with the seemingly lack of focus on Doctor too.
On top of that, I see the added focus on Clara, all her character development as the series major arc. With Moffat at the helm, I dare say it's safer to bet that he probably has some major plot twist on Clara waiting for us in the series finale and christmas special.
All in all, let's wait till the end of the series before we pass judgment
1 day, 5 hours ago on Another Take on “Clara Who”
With Moffat as showrunner, I have a feeling that he got something really major installed for us on the part of Clara's arc that would absolutely blow our minds off. Not unlike the unveiling of River Song as Melody Pond, or the crack in the wall on Trenzalore.
Therefore, I'm not jumping to any conclusions or even forming any opinions on how Clara is or where she's going.
1 day, 8 hours ago on Another Take on “Clara Who”
Flatline. As darn good as Mummy is, Flatline is just better.
1 day, 10 hours ago on Face-Off: Mummy vs Flatline
@Doctor hates tigers @Clara Who would make a good Doctor! There's now a facebook version, so you can play it on your laptop / desktop too.
Alas, you have to start over though, can't transfer between different systems.
2 days, 10 hours ago on The Doctor and the Dalek
@Bring back Ace @JamesClegg Initially I thought it's got something to do with TARDIS life support failing, and Doctor undergo sort of a botched up regeneration attempt and things go all wonky there.
Though most probably just a forgettable negligible hair-cut discontinuity issue.
Or it could be another Flesh and Stone moment?
2 days, 13 hours ago on 12 Great Moments From Flatline
@ahunter8056 @Clara Who would make a good Doctor! Try to keep going!
The real fun starts when you go into Series 6, that's when you can upgrade your characters further and recruit many more characters available in game. The most satisfying aspect of the game got to be collecting all available characters and costumes and level them up!
Team set up is key. If you need help check out the game's official site and forums, loads of assistance there to get started.
2 days, 13 hours ago on The Doctor and the Dalek
@Oodkind I'm not expecting much too. After 2 excellent episodes, we need to catch a deep breath again before the epic finale.
Almost like the calm before the storm, the low between the highs.
2 days, 12 hours ago on In the Forest of the Night Promo Pics
The little girl reminds me a little of little Amelia Pond. Perhaps Doctor too?
And Clara properly looks Mrs Pink in those pics. Yup.
2 days, 13 hours ago on In the Forest of the Night Promo Pics
I can see Flatline surpassing Mummy easily. The question is whether it can overtake Listen.
2 days, 13 hours ago on Your Verdict on Mummy & Episode Ranking
@ahunter8056 You have got to check out Doctor Who Legacy. No doubt the best DW game so far! Go google it, and give it a try!
3 days, 4 hours ago on The Doctor and the Dalek
For those who's wishing for a proper Doctor Who game, have you checked out Doctor Who Legacy? It's a gem based game and definitely the best of the lot out there.
Go give it a try!
Fascinating theory at the end! However I'm inclined to think they are the same, as from Deep Breath Doctor and Clara made a common reference to "the woman in the shop", and in Time Heist too. It would be unlikely for an echo of Clara to retain the memories from Bells of Saint John.
3 days, 12 hours ago on Flatline Review
The hand out of the tiny TARDIS was my definite favourite moment outside of all the Clara Who moments! Yes the silliness set upon the serious danger felt out of place, however I see the irony of it an added dimension to the humour!
Also I see Clara's response to the tiny TARDIS as one of the key reason to it working so well. "Oh this is so adorable". If the companion's response is different, say "oh no the TARDIS is in danger!", it probably wouldn't work the way it did.
3 days, 12 hours ago on 12 Great Moments From Flatline
Only problem I have with the episode is the name "Boneless" given to the Boneless. It just sounds so, boneless. The name felt without soul or substance, rather underwhelming compared to the originality, threat and potential of the monster.
Just felt it could have a more powerful name befitting of such a great monster. In fact, it's so good I think it's right alongside the Weeping Angels!
4 days, 12 hours ago on Rate & Discuss Flatline
@Dr. Oswald Oh yeah! Although I didn't need the explicit mention of "Addams Family" for it to knock myself out. The very scene of hand out of the TARDIS scuttling away left me rolling!
Despite being a new Who writer, Jamie Mathieson's script contains several elements of what makes some of previous episodes of Who great.
Opening with hilarious, nonsensical stuffs (Time OTD),
Developing threat with bickering humour between protagonists (Day OTD, adventure of River Song)
A unique monster which toys with viewers' senses and imagination (Angels, Silents, Vastra Nerada)
Use enemy's power against itself (Blink, Day of the Moon)
Epic speech (11th's era)
Only thing that's missing is some timey-wimey stuff.
Inadvertently, this episode could be renamed as "How to be the Doctor" or even "How to write an episode of Doctor Who". He even suggested as such in the script, "rule one of BEING the Doctor" and with the Doctor guiding Clara on what to do at every step of the way.
Get a companion, establish local knowledge.
Don't do weird things and scare people off, despite being always guilty himself.
Take charge when group is disorientated and disorganized.
Lie if necessary, to instill hope and to harness their superpower of fear.
Save life whenever possible, move on quickly whenever inevitable.
Always use your companion's special skill.
Use your enemies' power against themselves.
End the threat with an epic speech.
However by stripping it down to its bare elements, I'm concerned that it might create an obvious checklist of sorts for future writers to follow. Perhaps writers already had a list to refer to, but I'm concerned it gets so obvious that even viewers could see way too many ideas rehashed and put in. Originality may suffer until every other episode feels pretty much the standard fare.
Still, I love this episode and it's easily my favourite so far even though I have a feeling the finale would be even better! With all those loose story points yet to be tied up into one big Moffat loop. Moral dimensions and dilemmas, soldiers, officers and pushing beyond oneself, all settled within the Promised Land and all the robot races.
Being the episode right after the epic that's Flatline and just before the 2-parter finale, I have a feeling it's going to be the most forgettable episode of Season 8. Which isn't helping Mr Pink though.
5 days, 1 hour ago on Next Time: In the Forest of the Night
@SteveWillis @Clara Who would make a good Doctor! Oh dear I accidentally deleted my original comment.
"I name you, THE BONELESS!".
5 days, 1 hour ago on Doctor Who Extra: Flatline
"In this episode he's forced to conclude that maybe he's making Clara worse".
"She's picking up from him things that he thinks are necessary, but of which he is not proud".
Grim foreshadowing indeed!
@A Greek Time Lord in 2D She's the woman in the shop! That "chosen well" line pretty much confirmed it.
5 days, 1 hour ago on Rate & Discuss Flatline
The first and only episode I had no hesitation to voting a perfect 10. It would make the score irregardless if it's my favourite Clara or any other companion.
And of course, Clara is an exceptional Doctor! Goodness has nothing to do with it though..... Some grim foreshawdowing...
Love the moments with the TARDIS! Hand outside TARDIS scuttling to safety, was laughing so hard! TARDIS switching to siege mode, very Moment-ish Pandorica-ish Gallifray box.
THIS IS PHENOMENAL!!! THE ABSOLUTE BEST EPISODE SO FAR!! And I'm not saying it because it's so Clara-centric, but everything from beginning to the absolute end!
6 days, 4 hours ago on The Complete Eighth Series DVD Extras
@Demeggy Even better. Watch it with Sophie!
Bring along your hat and umbrella and stuffs.
6 days, 4 hours ago on Flatline Clip
Wow. Just wow. Even Clara haters would love this episode now.
Cue conspiracy theories of BBC releasing this clip to pacify the cynics
Only from the mind of the Mad Moffat can one see a harmless storyboard drawing as an inter-dimensional threat!
1 week ago on Flatline Clip
@The Finn I'll put that on a T-shirt!
When the Doctor was confronting the Mummy directly after taking in Maisie's grief, I actually find him going out of his way to show empathy towards Maisie, taking up valuable seconds of the 66 connecting with Maisie and her grandma, pony, father.
It felt out of place at that time with a threat so imminent upon him. I wonder if it's something to do with Clara scolding him on manipulating others and being overly cold and callous which woke something up in him, or he's just doing it for Clara's sake.
1 week ago on 12 Great Moments From Mummy on the Orient Express
My wildest dream for the fate of Clara and Jenna.
The Doctor regenerates into Clara!
Jenna becomes the next Doctor!
There. I've said it.
1 week, 1 day ago on Flatline Clip
I have a feeling this is going to be hilarious, in a weird sort of way..
It's really amazing how the team could break into new territories yet again with novel ideas after novel ideas!
@Ottoman14 nah, not hate, just respectful difference of opinions.
I for one feel that because Clara had been through so much with the Doctor, from his brightest to his darkest days, with the major roles and responsibilities she'd accumulated through all her adventures, nothing seem to faze her anymore. Really nothing. So when Doctor is tossed off the scene, but still very much around to guide her, she's relishing in this adventure to be him, making the impossible decisions.
"I'm the Doctor, and you can call me Clara! "
The no.1 song to first come into my mind is Abigail's Song, mostly because it's the first song in my playlist of Doctor Who OSTs. Then when I saw it's only ranked 2nd, I wonder which even better song I missed out, when I remembered very quickly the masterpiece that's the Long Song.
And then I got trolled.
But I had a great laugh. Great work there!
1 week, 2 days ago on Who Tunes: Ranking the Lyrical Songs of Doctor Who
Wow. Split right down the middle! Looks like this is one episode is one which'd never come to a consensus, not even a majority! Both results ended up quite a surprise, especially the lights on/off vote. Totally unexpected!
1 week, 3 days ago on Kill the Moon: Who Was Right? Thoughts & Your Vote
"I'm the Doctor, and you can call me Clara"
SQUEALS IN DELIGHT!!
1 week, 3 days ago on Next Time: Flatline
There is something strangely romantic about the way Clara talks about and towards Doctor. Sure she likes him, and she's got Danny too, but it feels more like guilty love than mere platonic. Almost like an affair of sorts.
Or maybe it's just her addiction symptoms. Her responses, her apprehension of not going to experience this again, certainly fits.
1 week, 3 days ago on 12 Great Moments From Mummy on the Orient Express
Lies, as what a certain wise lady might re-phrase it,
"I didn't always tell you what you wanted to hear, but I always tell you what you needed to hear."
1 week, 4 days ago on Rate & Discuss Mummy on the Orient Express
I must admit I didn't spot the whole thing about lying at first.. I thought that Clara did meant what she said at the end about Danny being ok and all that, I'd imagined there's some off-screen conversation between them and they would know each other well enough to have coded conversations like the little phone call at the end. I initially thought Clara did meant to tell Danny she'd be continuing in her travels with that malfunctioning, double emotions "i love you" line.
Only after having rewatched it Clara's expression betrayed something else. And eventually noticed the whole episode had loads of references to lying, right from the very beginning (when the TARDIS landed).
YES!!! PERKINS PLEASE!!!
1 week, 4 days ago on Doctor Who Extra: Mummy on the Orient Express
Although there's one thing I'm not exactly sure of. All those misdirection from BBC.
Many of us thought this is going to be Clara-lite, but it turned out she's at her most gorgeous here than ever!
This is the only episode so far that I didn't went in blind but instead read up on the advance reviews etc, and was slightly annoyed at being deceived of Clara's presence. Teasers from BBC all seems to suggest Clara is leaving the Doctor due to this episode, but turned out the exact opposite. Had an emotional roller coaster due to this, which might have made the highs of the episode even higher than otherwise. hmmm...
Now I'm more undecided as to whether to go in each episode blind, or get hyped up with all those pre-air teasers just to ride along what BBC has set up for us
They say Kill The Moon is the one to change everything? Pfftt. THIS EPISODE is the one to change everything.
THE DOCTOR IS FINALLY CLEARLY HERE!!
Oh that scene on the pebble beach... (Was that New Earth?) Capaldi at his most awesome-inspiring, almost had a tear in my eye... He may do somethings that seems harsh or cruel, but underneath him he knew the only choices he had were all bad ones, and deep down he certainly isn't what he portrays himself to be. So that's what Capaldi means when he gave us the 3 words "Trust No One".
@Typo42 @Clara Who is playing Doctor Who Legacy. unbeknowns Yes indeed. But Courtney reached for the button too. There were two hands on that device when it's being aborted.
1 week, 5 days ago on 2nd Opinion: Kill the Moon
@whitewhim Yet another deeply insightful comment from you Mr whitewhim. Really enjoyed reading stuffs from you on this!
Looking at all the divisive posts around here, here's really no easy answer on this isn't it?
1 week, 5 days ago on Kill the Moon: Clara or the Doctor?
I'd probably be blasted for this, but I think Courtney pressing the button at the end is cause she didn't want to be nuked at that instant, rather than saving the chick.
And yes, I do think she's a highly self-centered, attention seeking teenager who loves to get on people's toes. Really have to see how she develops from here on before I would change my mind.
I love Ellis George's portrayal of Courtney though. Absolutely spot on!
@Mr 11 That's the point, nobody knows for sure.
But the way Clara addresses the planet seems to suggest that Earth would be threatened if they don't do anything. So effectively, Clara's speech had made the decision for humanity already.
1 week, 6 days ago on Poll: Lights On or Lights Off?
@ Notsosmartguy He does. He mentioned he knows that eggs are not bombs, and they generally don't destroy their nests.
Cause there's no way for humanity to know what's going to happen, or what's going to not happen. Fear of the unknown, or even fear of the different, humans have shown time and time again this irrational illogical fear alone is enough for them to kill for.
Let alone this fear of an alien, a lifeform so vastly greater (in size) that's already wrecking havoc before it's even born. There's only one choice, not because we love killing but because we do what it takes to survive.
Only for survival.Also because the way I am being briefed by that gorgeous lady on the telly that it's the life of all mankind on Earth vs that one creature in the moon, there's really no debate.
However if she only asked if we should nuke it or not, while having no mention of what might happen to Earth, that would be a tougher choice.