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All 4 episodes so far have a character which is indirectly a reflection of the Doctor. In this episode, I think Karabraxos is a reflection of a side of him. Two probably.
"She hates her own clones". "I hate the Architect"
"You'll be old and full of regret for the things that you can't change"
14 hours, 10 minutes ago on Rate & Discuss Time Heist
it was quite obvious the architect is the doctor. towards the end of his "briefing" to the gang, his scottish accent began to came out, so it came as no surprise to me at the end at all.
1 day, 9 hours ago on Rate & Discuss Time Heist
This gotta be my new handle for the week.
1 day, 22 hours ago on Rate & Discuss Time Heist
The episode was pretty ok, a new adventure on a setting never before explored, direction was pretty cool too. Story in itself was average, and I love how they made out the Teller, really brings a sense of awe and intimidation. Miss Delphox was phenomenal, although Director Karabraxos could more screen time to be more menacing.
But the main thing about this episode is the introduction of Psi and Saibra, the next generation of secondary companions after the Paternoster Gang. In the accompanying DWExtra it's already strongly hinted there's more to come. I like how Psi is shaping up and its development potential is immense, although I'm a little undeciphered about Saibra for now, it just screams too X-Rogue for me. Actors performance are so far a little subdued, but it's just their 1st episode and hopefully more will come.
Btw, anyone else managed to guess Architect = Doctor immediately upon noticing the Scottish accent?
So far I see the difference in opinions as viewers preferring direct, straightforward, everything-you-need-is-what-you-see type of story telling, or a complex, implicit telling requiring deep knowledge with the wider story, with sublimal moral messages whispering through the 4th wall. Both are right in their stands, but you can't say the other is wrong. Honestly i don't think it's fair to compare this 2, it's like comparing between apples or oranges.
3 days, 21 hours ago on Face-Off: Blink vs Listen
my exact sentiments.
4 days, 7 hours ago on Face-Off: Blink vs Listen
As a single, standalone, independent episode, Blink wins hands down. Anyone can enjoy it, whether you're a whovian or not. In fact, my very first episode is Blink and it's no doubt captured my attention and fascination into Doctor Who instantly.
What Listen wins in, is its references of the wider Wholore, its influential contribution to the entire mythology of the show, and a very strong opening of a couple of future story arcs. Not to forget Moffat's own progress in script writing, telling so much with so little.
Tough choice, both are winners in different ways. But I'm going with Listen as a full-fledged Whovian. If I'm a newcomer however, I would have voted for Blink.
I have a bad feeling this is gonna be one of the most divisive moment in DW history. And it's not for the better.
4 days, 17 hours ago on Kill The Moon BBC Synopsis
What I really love about this episode is that it's only 45mins, with 3 distinct acts punctuated with the date, yet tells so much story with its superb script and directing. Evident from the sheer length of this great review, and that viewers will only find the episode better and better with each subsequent viewing. One of the greatest, if not the greatest scripting work by Moffat and the direction / production too for realizing it on screen.
5 days, 19 hours ago on Listen Review
It is in the Doctor's mind for the case of the Doctor, but for Rupert it probably isn't. That thing on the bed is probably gonna be a key element of a wider arc, and I'm guessing it's Pink's.
1 week ago on Poll: Listen – Was there a Monster or not?
I think I sort of found a possible connection of this episode to the series arc. Remember at the end of the universe, Doctor said something like "that's a hell lot of ghosts". And all those things about perhaps when all the living are dead, all these things would come out. Now isn't that a reference to the nethersphere? Is the planet Orson ended up the gateway to the nethersphere? Could Missy actually be somewhere at that planet, keeping guard over her gateway. Could Doctor have been attacked by the Netherspherians when he opened the door? I certainly believe there's something more coming, but what a helluva set up this episode is!
I didn't think of it this way initially but now that you said it, there goes my theory of Clara being the TARDIS!
1 week ago on 12 Great Moments From Listen
Despite my agreement, I see it as an acknowledgement to the importance of the companion, Clara especially, while the Doctor is still finding his feet, or kidneys, or eyebrows.
It's still only 4 episodes in, and Capaldi himself once mentioned viewers would only get to know who this Doctor really is after 4 episodes or so. So assuming now the new Doctor's character development is more or less done, from here onwards we can expect to see the Doctor shine worthy of the last of the time lords.
One of my favourite bits are actually what seemed like throwaway lines, but is in fact foreshadowing future events.
Danny: "Straight to dinner. I might even go for extras" And we see Clara popping up at Danny's apartment. Now that's direct....
Clara to Rupert: "Do you know what's under the bed? ME!" And that's indeed what's under the bed at the barn.
Danny when Clara says she likes the name Pink: "Well you can have it." A bold proposition, Clara Pink!
That is definitely the message that Moff is putting across. I'm seeing it as a reassuring message to all children out there that it's ok to be afraid, that fear is actually a superpower rather than a weakness.
Although I do think there is a monster, just not the one Doctor is expecting.
1 week, 1 day ago on Poll: Listen – Was there a Monster or not?
Yes in the case of Rupert, clued in not just from the blanket but also the child and housekeeper's descriptions of the place.
Uncertain in the case of Orson, and if there is it's a different monster from Rupert's.
No in terms of the Doctor, both in the TARDIS and as a boy at the end, unless you consider Clara a monster (which a control freak can be one)
I don't think Trenzalore was unwritten. All we see was the Doctor's timestream in a gigantic TARDIS replica which Clara jumped into. We didn't see Doctor actually dying. For all we know the 12th could have gone back to Trenzalore (before redecorating his TARDIS), done up the circumstances required for Name of the Doctor to occur, by putting up his timestream up until 11th's regeneration The same could be said for Day of the Doctor's "all 13" scene.
1 week, 1 day ago on Rate & Discuss Listen
@King of Ravolox Well I actually like the way things are developing now, which I interpret that companions are just as important to the show than a mere audience surrogate, that the companion of the season should be of near or even equal standing to the doctor. They have personalities, their individuality, certainly not easily replaceable from one to the other like some ornament. It is in no way undermining the Doctor of the show, he is the titular character for 50 years and going of course.
As for my handle, it's more a declaration of my fan-love for Clara than otherwise.
I think the Pinks stories won't end here. I feel it'd form their story arc, across multiple generations of Pinks to be developed over future episodes / seasons. Would Clara be involved? Who knows?
Ok, so I've watched it again in full analysis mode, and I'm not ashamed to declare the ending scene got me in proper tears this time round, and probably more times ahead. Tears for its absolute brilliance, unlike that for 11th or Ponds which is for sadness. But I'm not here to rave on about how brilliant this script is, for we've all been doing so for 1500+ comments. I'm here to give my take on some questions raised on how legit the threats really are.
Are the threats imaginary? First time around I thought most of the fear in the episode are, and that it's quite an anticlimax. But I stand corrected. Perhaps we can say only the Doctor's childhood fear is imaginary, cause there's just Clara unwittingly grabbing his foot. Perhaps Clara realized how big of an impact it'll have on the Doctor growing up, hence she went on about her speech not unlike rewriting Kazran's childhood memories.
Who wrote the word LISTEN on Doctor's chalkboard? It's likely to be Doctor himself like what Clara mentioned. Although Doctor says he couldn't have done something and forgotten about it, he clearly forgot he switched off TARDIS safeguards himself when he says "some idiot switched it off".
Are there proper monsters in the children's home? I think there is. The housekeeper's coffee may be taken by the Doctor, but there's no explanation of how the TV turned off by itself. Rupert's encounters, together with the housekeeper's, are multiple, unlikely to be brushed off simply as imagination. Plus the figure we saw when the bedsheet is pulled off, that looks a little like a sontaran. Typically of Moffat he always leaves clues foreshadowing future events, and I feel Doctor's confused rant of "Sontarans perverting course of history" is the clue. To be continued as Pink's arc.
Are there proper monsters at the end of the universe? Looks most like it, Orson is not saying a lot of things and he seems to be dodging answering truthfully at every opportunity. More things to come back to for the multi-generation Pink's arc.
How did the TARDIS get into Gallifrey? Well the Doctor did switch off all the safeguards when slaving the TARDIS controls to Clara. It is mentioned that this is what enabled TARDIS to travel all the way to the end of the universe finding Orson. Hence it's also likely that it enabled them to travel to the Doctor's childhood in Gallifrey, far before the time-locked war or stasis-cubed planet.
I too felt like Moffat is tying up plenty of connections in this episodes with many of his previous works, the lonely little boy, the moment in the barn and the never cruel and cowardly. And I always felt there's more significance to some other lines from Clara, and your deep knowledge Wholore has certainly confirmed that! I've got a feeling there's plenty more yet identified by the fandom. Yes, this is indeed becoming more and more the greatest ever script written by Moff the more we discuss it. Though not the best adventure or the scariest , but most certainly the deepest and most philosophical.
The GREATEST companion ever. Heck, I'd actually wishing her to become the NEXT Doctor.
Also it isn't confirmed that Orson is Clara's great-grandson. It's only mentioned that "one of my great-grand parent is a time traveller", with no mention if it's the male or female half. One thing we can be sure is Danny is definitely one, and we know he's gonna be a time traveller. Clara would still very well die off before giving birth and Orson's case would still stand.
I'm slightly torn apart for this episode honestly. First impression it feels a little like an anti-climax that the "monster" in this episode is just imaginary, to all the conspiracy theorists, imaginative, speculative, necks-longer-than-giraffes fans who's all hyped up for yet another epic story line. In one way it does (the barn that is. That's one helluva plot detail which'll live on in Wholore). But in most ways it's, not as complex as some would hope.
On the other hand, the simplicity of the threat, that "fear" is an omnipresent companion and it's ok to be afraid, that it's a superpower making us stronger than what we could otherwise achieve, is directed and appeals to all the children watching the show who would no doubt be inspired by this resolution that fear is a strength not a weakness. I'd like to think it would go on and leave a positive impact on their future life, much like how many who grew up on Classic Who continue to attribute it for shaping their childhood.
My third insight comes as I went back and read the spoilery episode previews featured in DWM, that put this episode as, what would the ever restless, always running Doctor be like during an off day, that there's aliens to stop, no mysteries to solve? Moffat feels he'll go slightly mad, which is essentially what happens here. So in essence, this is an adventure-lite episode, one that depicts a day when Doctor is not doing anything (goes mad), Clara not adventuring in the TARDIS (goes dating). This is a scenario that hasn't been explored previously, though on paper it sounds a little boring (what goes on behind the scenes when nothing is happening? *cricket sounds*). But somehow, Moffat's script managed to bring something almost nothing into SOMETHING, got us all hyped up over it, built up all those tensions and fear as the episode progresses, and left us feeling goody-woolly about fear, Clara and boy Doctor, and ensuring we definitely want a few more re-watches. First impressions of it wasn't that good honestly, but the more I think about it, the more I feel it's really something. Last time I had this feeling? Day of the Doctor.
A 9/10 for me now, with only one and a half viewing. Probably would increase with subsequent re-watch.
From the 4 episodes so far, Doctor seems to have taken a back seat to Clara. More often than not, the climax of the show lies more with Clara instead of the Doctor doing his usual thing.
We're also seeing her influence on the Doctor is more than just the impossible girl who jumped into the time stream to save the Doctor over and over again. In fact she influenced his beginnings far more than any companions. With other companions it's always about how their life is totally changed when Doctor entered their life, with him being in full (mostly) control. With Clara though, she's still in control of her own life, and is ever more influential with Doctor's.
Didn't really care too much about the Robin Hood criticisms of this show actually. Claara alone would make anyone in love with this episode.
"Oh you two SHUT UP!!!!" "Might be a little bit much..."
1 week, 6 days ago on Robot of Sherwood Review
I'm actually quite surprised Dalek had a significant lead over Into the Dalek. I was pumped from start to finish for Into the Dalek, but for Dalek only when 9th was unleashing all his hatred and fury. Perhaps more people preferred the subliminal messages that Dalek was conveying, while Into the Dalek was more direct and in-your-face bing-bang-boom
2 weeks ago on Your Verdict on Into the Dalek
There was the two moments when Clara was talking about her belief in impossible heroes, in the TARDIS and at the village. Both cases the Doctor suddenly took out something sweet and started eating it, quite out of the blue. First it was ice cream (or yogurt?) on his fighting spoon, 2nd was an apple.
It was almost as if the Doctor is slightly embarrassed at the "sweet" reference from Clara!
2 weeks, 1 day ago on 12 Great Moments From Robot of Sherwood
One of my favourite moment with Capaldi is the line "I'm afraid you're a little late. I'm alrEADY FFRREEEEE!". It's the delivery of a jester's tone which made it quite distinctive and outstanding, taking the "madman" to the next level. Ep1's "Door, boring. Not Me. ME!" and Ep2's distinct laugh as he slid down the tube are notable incidents too.
River: "I hate good wizards in fairy tales. They always turned out to be him".
Initially I had the thought the reason why Doctor is so adamant Robin Hood is not real, is that the Doctor IS the Robin Hood. But from this story's narrative is pretty nice too, with the 3rd titular character being a mirror of sorts to the new Doctor.
2 weeks, 2 days ago on Rate & Discuss Robot of Sherwood
First, don't blink. Now, LISTEN. I have a feeling this is gonna be another helluva scary classic. And the trailer seems so too.
2 weeks, 2 days ago on Next Time: Listen
Bowties are evidently still cool!!
2 weeks, 5 days ago on Capaldi Wins TV Personality of the Year
Nice insights on most ends, although I'm inclined to differ for the Clara parts.
I think Clara's various responses are developing her character further, having lifted her bubbly personality masking bossy control freak. The first retort, the slap are aspects of her egomania, especially now that she's used to being in full control as a teacher.
And then there's the Doctor sending her up to do a clever thing. Even though he says he haven't got a foggiest to reawaken the memories, he must be absolutely confident that Clara would find the clever thing to do, before sending her up. Cause he's the Doctor.
And then there's the lack of reference to Oswin the Dalek. There's one tiny reference to AOTD "how do you know who I am" when the Doctor first meets his patient, showing the writers had got it under consideration. Then when Rusty first utters the phrase "I see beauty", there's a lingering focus on Clara herself on Rusty's screen. And at the end of the episode, Rusty was loitering at the hallway looking at Clara too even after Doctor's gone, and all the soldier having turned their attention away from Rusty. I see Rusty's behaviour as a clue, that perhaps it might actually be Oswin herself, having survived the Asylum's destruction.
2 weeks, 5 days ago on Into the Dalek Review
Clara is so going to be one of the greatest companions of all time. I really loved Amy, and by extension Karen, but from the way things are developing, its hard not for Clara to be right up there at the pinnacle, not just from Moffat's scripts but also from Jenna's amazing performances. Can't remember who else nailed such range and depth of emotions as Jenna did.
2 weeks, 5 days ago on Series 8: Brave New Clara
I really regretted being spoiled by the various articles / video sniping found on youtube. It totally undermined the significance of this scene. Saw it coming / waiting for it to happen way before the show aired. Would have enjoyed it so much more if I went in surprised by it. I think it's a sweet touch, and it reflected how some viewers (myself included) might be a little skeptical on the new Doctor, having the same doubts as with Clara and would do well with a little reassuring.
4 weeks, 1 day ago on Moffat on THAT Deep Breath Cameo
My Team Doctors:
2 --- 6 ---:8 ---7
3 -----, 9.
10 --- 5 --- 11
Manager: 1. Team doctor: War
9 or 5 could switch positions if wanted
3 months ago on The Inaugural Universe World Cup
All the goosebumps from recalling all the moments of episode. oh the feels.
Well, except when “You can change History if your apart of it”.
"You can't* change history if you're* a* part* of it."
5 months, 3 weeks ago on Why “Time” was the Perfect Summary of Smith’s Era
2 things I noticed that's amiss.
1) Blowing up the TARDIS.
The aim here is only to blow up Doctor's vehicle, to prevent him from ever reaching Trenzalore. It's not so much to kill the Doctor (that's River's job), so they'd just blow it up irregardless if he's piloting it then. I'd go on to suggest Silence blew up the TARDIS by either programming or post-hypnotic suggesting River to blow her up, or to sacrifice one Silent to tamper the TARDIS from within.
2) Infonarium and Dalek asylum.
I'd say the events at the asylum happened before infonarium, as the idea of removing himself from the data banks came from Oswin's deleting them from the path web.
6 months ago on Silence Will Fall – The Complete Timeline
Spoiler: Day of the Doctor takes top spot.
6 months ago on Best of Matt Smith: Results (19-13)
Not just the average scores, we want to see the distribution of scores too!
6 months, 1 week ago on Best of Matt Smith: Results (39-34)
would have given 12/10, if not for the pacing being bit too fast. too many moments where any one of them would make a single episode a 10. an 11.5/10 for me.
6 months, 2 weeks ago on Best of Matt Smith: The Time of the Doctor
where's the option for 50/10?
6 months, 2 weeks ago on Best of Matt Smith: The Day of the Doctor
@Sir James Bond More so than the Midnight entity. Stupid people who only wanted to see the distorted reality their little yet malicious mind could support. Yet so infectious that others around them could be sucked in easily. Worst of all, such people are everywhere.
6 months, 2 weeks ago on 5 Underrated Doctor Who Monsters and Villains
Why nobody suggested Peter Davison?
6 months, 3 weeks ago on The Speculator’s Guide to… The Next Showrunner
@Amy the Consulting Key Ring Give this girl a jammie dodger!! And crowned with a fez.
6 months, 3 weeks ago on Best of Matt Smith: The Angels Take Manhattan
Danny's probably a retired companion from the future!
6 months, 4 weeks ago on A Few Thoughts On Danny Pink
@Lewis94. People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... timey wimey... stuff.
7 months ago on Best of Matt Smith: The Girl Who Waited