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@JamesU So if lundqvist gives up 1 goal in every game but they get shutout 1-0 that's his fault? It's a team game. He can be the best player on the ice every night but if the other guys suck it doesn't make a difference.. I'm sorry but he has proven (with insane game 7 numbers) that is the best clutch goalie in the game and the best/mot consistent goalie for the last 8 years. So yes, he is one of the greats of his generation if not THE best.
5 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/can-lundqvist-conquer-his-greatest-challenge.html
@johnnyb3910 @pkh33 empty netter
5 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
@TomDundie @fushone @JoeyKocur le me just make sure I know what you're saying cause honestly its hard as fuck to read what you type. You're saying that when a player runs a teammate of your with a dirty hit that could cause serious injury you're supposed to do nothing cause you might get a penalty for retaliation? Is that correct?
also I don't know what facts you're referring to. you mean the ones about the 2 ranger teams that didn't put up with any shit winning the cup and the other going to the conference finals? those facts?
6 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
@TomDundie @fushone @JoeyKocur what youre saying doesn't make sense though. I agree with you that dirty plays should not be part of the game (which for baseball would be throwing at someone). however, if it is done, which still happens in baseball even with the rules, you can be sure someone on the other team is going to have to hit the deck. IT STILL HAPPENS! and that's fucking BASEBALL!!. my point is that when someone goes over the line which can result in SERIOUS injury to a teammate, you let them know that shit won't be tolerated. honestly this is like hockey, or any sport for that matter, 101.
@TomDundie @fushone @JoeyKocur please read what I write before telling me what im saying is verbal diarrhea. you seem to think everything is black and white. just because a player comes to the aid of a teammate who received a dirty hit doesn't mean if his some goon. It's what brings teams together. take a look at baseball. the most passive sport there is. you throw at a guy intentionally and you can be sure someone is getting thrown at the next inning. That was easy!
and to your 2nd point, it doesn't man going after neil will result in him not taking runs at people per se, but if he knows a teammate might get targeted for the shit he does he may think twice and im sure his more skilled teammates, I,.e. karllson, may be a little nervous after he does something like that. remember carkner taking out boyle? it worked!
@TomDundie @fushone @JoeyKocur please don't be condescending. Balance is what wins championships. according to your logic you don't need any toughness at all. Have you ever watched playoff hockey. it is incredibly physical and if your stars are getting drilled game in and game out they will wear down. If you wear down the opposing team its not as easy for them to wear you down. Sure kocur and king, and rupp and prust aren't the sole reason you win a championship but they are a key part to that success. and hockey is not like other sports. its back and forth, almost non stop phycial play, especially in the playioffs, and if you dont think you need to put a little fear in to the other team you are mistaken. when carkner ran boyle in 2012 that almost single-handedly turned the series around. so please dont talk to me about what I know and don't know.
@TomDundie @JoeyKocur is it a surprise that the toughest team the rangers had in recent memory in 2012 almost went to the cup. and the last rangers team to win the cup had a very tough team too (kocur, king, buek), mess, graves, etc). you don't have to be loaded with heavyweights but you need guys who will fuck someone up for taking liberties with your best players with the dirt shit we keep see happening to ranger's players.
@TomDundie @JoeyKocur whn you lose guys to constant cheap shots and dirty hits it doesn't mater what game plan you have. you need to have some tough players. we lost McDonaugh on a late hit (and almost to a cheap shot a week earlier) and now could've easily lost staal on that hit. you cant let other teams get away with that or the injuries will pile up
@DPSnotty @mando24179 that wasn't a dirty hit
6 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
@Bueller @fushone so then why ever stick up for a teammate?
7 months ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/simmonds-slash-on-mcdonagh.html
@Bueller @fushone McDonaugh shoved him..there was no "battle" after the slash
@Bueller and one last point as I go. No one knows the extent of an injury immediately after something happens. For all anyone knew right after the slash, McDonaugh could have easily had a broken wrist. just because a player doesn't immediately fall to his knees in pain doesn't mean he's not injured. So whether a player is injured or not or "seems" to be sticking up for himself shouldn't factor to in to whether a teammate thinks an opponent has crossed the line.
@Bueller @fushone my argument is not about whether people saw it or not, but where we disagree is IF someone had seen it. you think no one should have done anything even if they did see it, whereas the rest of us disagree, so we don't need to watch the play
@KevinTheNYRBlog @fushone @Bueller @Say my Name @Rangers_54 good point, but that is a pretty big difference. i.e. what if mcDonaugh did break his wrist but instinctively still tried to go after Simmonds while his teammates stand around and watch. The game moves too fast to have a "wait and see" approach to almost any aspect of the game,. You react to a situation, not to what the situation might eventually lead to.
@Bueller @fushone @Say my Name @KevinTheNYRBlog @Rangers_54 GOD just called and told me I won the argument
@Bueller @fushone @Say my Name @KevinTheNYRBlog @Rangers_54 again, an immediate reaction to a star tplayer getting slashed on the wrist means you act before you know whether they are injured and can stick up for themselves. You DON'T stop and think...."hmmm, is he hurt, can he defend himself". you're supposed to just react to a dirty play like that against your teammate...DONE
@Bueller @fushone @Say my Name @KevinTheNYRBlog @Rangers_54 There you go again putting words in our mouth. where did anyone say retaliate for every hit? you still haven't given me an example of when you think a line is crossed. guess you don't have one
@Bueller @fushone @Say my Name @KevinTheNYRBlog @Rangers_54 kill his parents
@Bueller @fushone @Say my Name @KevinTheNYRBlog @Rangers_54 and "I look over" = "checking"
@Bueller @fushone @Say my Name @KevinTheNYRBlog @Rangers_54 you continue to not understand our argument that whether or not your teammate gets injured isn't the point. according to you, you should stand up for yourself AFTER you get hurt instead of standing up for yourself beforehand to avoid people taking liberties with you to begin with. a PREVENTATIVE approach
@Bueller @Say my Name @fushone @KevinTheNYRBlog @Rangers_54 and don't say 'when someone gets hurt' cause its an instant reaction...you don't stop and check on your teammate before jumping in
@Bueller @Say my Name @fushone @KevinTheNYRBlog @Rangers_54 you still keep avoiding the question of when do you think a line has been crossed and a teammate needs to step up? A two handed slash across the wrist to one of your best players seems pretty line-crossing to the rest of us
@Bueller @KevinTheNYRBlog @fushone @Say my Name @Rangers_54 the point is, if someone had seen someone take a vicious slash to the wrist of one of their top players someone should of stepped up. not waited to see whether he was hurt or not. that's not the point
@Say my Name @Bueller @KevinTheNYRBlog @fushone @Rangers_54 we should probably just give up...he doesn't get it
@Bueller @KevinTheNYRBlog @fushone @Say my Name @Rangers_54 so at what point do you do something...what about a cross check to the back of the head...a cross check to the neck? how about a spear? a deliberate head shot? according to you a player should never retaliate because it won't make the guy go home and change his ways........its really a ridiculous argument
@Bueller @fushone @Betweentheworlds Cross checks to the back happen a million times a game especially in front of the net. That's part of the game if you want to play in front of the other team's goalie. A 2-handed slash across the wrist is in another league. I hope you can understand the difference
@Bueller @KevinTheNYRBlog @Say my Name @Rangers_54 Cross checks to the back happen a million times a game especially in front of the net. That's part of the game especially if you want to play in front of the other team's net. A 2-handed slash across the wrist is in another league. I hope you can understand the difference.
@KevinTheNYRBlog @Bueller @Say my Name @Rangers_54 I don't think anyone saw it either, but the argument of whether or not a team should react in that instance HAD they seen it still holds value. well at least to most of us
@Bueller @Say my Name @Rangers_54 I guess you don't understand the concept that there is carryover between games. "messages" are sent from one game to another and so is energy. How's that for using my brain?
@Bueller @fushone @Betweentheworlds I don't know what that means. Nothing I wrote disputed how the game ended. It's what didn't happen
@rangermom @fushone @Gino77 my bad. people were complaining that mcdonaugh shouldn't have been out there.
@rangermom @Gino77 the flyers had a 2 man advantage at the end of the game and down by 2. You put out your top d-men in that situation in a big game.
@Bring back Langdon @Gino77 you're crazy if you don't think he's good.
@Bueller @Betweentheworlds so according to you're logic since standing up for yourself and teammates won't "change" the way the other player plays, there's no point in doing anything?........I guess we just let then do whatever the hell they want and just sit back and take it. good strategy. The result (whether or not McDonaugh was hurt or not) should not factor in to how the team responds to a deliberate cheap shot that easily COULD have injured him. Otherwise its open season.
@Bueller @Betweentheworlds That was the time to respond. absolute perfect time.
I'm really bummed that lundqvist always sits now in Montreal. If he's the best goalie in the world he shouldn't be afraid to play anywhere. Talbot has played 4 of the last 11 games so lundqvist should have no problem going. with one win there he gets the monkey off his back so just play him in Montreal already. This is a huge game and Quick isn't even playing tomorrow.
11 months, 1 week ago on Nash in Contact Jersey; Del Zotto Out, Talbot, Falk In vs, Canadiens
@AnnoyingJoe nah. the next few years after they wont he cup the place was still loud and buzzing. it has everything to do with ridiculous prices for tickets. now instead of having ranger fans at the game, a lot of those expensive seats are owned by corporations who give them to clients or other BS like that. Case in point: I used to go to a lot of games and now I can't. I'm sure almost every person on this site wants to go to more games but cant afford it. and i'm sure most people here are loud when it comes to cheering for them at home games.
11 months, 2 weeks ago on Death of Madison Square Garden?
@Jamie David cheering only because they give you a reason sounds pretty weak to me. What about giving them the extra boost when the need it? There's supposed to be an advantage to playing at home because of fan support.
Where are the highlights!!? Sadly I missed the game and MSG had Red Bulls BS on instead of rewind. I heard the game had tons of excitement. Help a dude out!!
11 months, 3 weeks ago on Rangers Romp Penguins 5-1
@Trade DelZotto+Girardi4E.Kane sadly he also gets hurt 1-2 times a year
11 months, 4 weeks ago on Maybe Vigneault Is What The Rangers Need
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIGhonestly i dont really think he did that much complaining. Sure he made a comment about not being able to score in OT but I can't blame him for being frustrated. Personally I don't think there system did him many favors. he still made highlight reel saves on a weekly basis and they gave up just as many scoring chances a game as most teams do. If you want to talk about a really good defensive system that doesn't require stacking everyone in front of the goalie so he can't see anything, look at Boston. It's about being big and physical along the boards and having smart break-outs, along with a hard forecheck. if you have the puck, the other team doesn't. That's my main problem with them. Anytime they get the puck they either chip it out or dump it in, handing possession over to the other team. I think he'll do better actually in a more possession, play-making system
1 year, 4 months ago on Rangers Could Offer Lundqvist Max Contract
@scrangersfan lundqvist would be taken by ever GM in the league. Even the Kings. He is consistently a Vezina candidate and carries the rangers on his back every year. Quick had a shit year this. Sure he's had 2 great playoffs, but hank would've won the cup with the kings last year. fucking fleury wouldve too!
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG I have to say I strongly disagree anyone who says he has fault in the rangers lack of playoff success. There is no way rangers make it past the first round without hank this year, and it seems about 75% of the goals he gives up are either deflected or cause of a screen. that is a direct result of too much traffic in front of him. he has been lights out for them and is the main reason they have won any round the last 6 years
This has got to be the only team in the league that constantly uses a right-handed shot on the right point and left-handed shot on the left point during the PP. This completely takes away the ability to take one-timers from the point. You see the Caps consistantly setting up Ovechkin for one-timers in the same spot, as do the penguins with Malkin. We have Richards, Nash and Gaborik and we NEVER set up any of them for one-time shots. Granted they might not be as lethal with their one-timers as ovechkin and malkin, but it creates so much even if the goalie makes the save. Plus it makes it easier to get the shot through since the defense doesn't have time to set up in front of the shot. This has been going on for years. It seems like Powerplay 101 to me.
1 year, 7 months ago on Richards Needs the Puck to Be Confident
@gravey94 I hear what you're saying, but first off, this huge sacrifice is to play a game. And they already got the big payoff by making it to the NHL and getting paid huge money. Their sacrifices have been paid off. On top of that, by fighting tooth and nail over ever little detail you're causing other people to suffer, which they should factor in to their decision but they don't. You can't just compare it to a normal 9-5 job because too many people rely on you. When is enough, enough??. If they were fighting for health insurance or something like that i would understand, but they're fighting about how to split MY money in an industry where salaries have increased to astronomical levels while the average fan can barely afford to go to a game. Every little thing they fight for ends up costing me more money to go watch them.
1 year, 10 months ago on Devastated
@gravey94 sorry but i have no more sympathy for the players. to agree to a maximum 5 year contract and a 10 year CBA is not much. They have already proven over the past 2 months that they won't be pushed around and this week was the time to say, "ok, time to make a deal". Instead, they had to push for more and now its all off the table. They all live first class lives; fancy hotels, trainers, massages whenever they want, and that's not even going in to the millions they make. Basically they continue to "make a stand" for nothing more than greed, more money, just like the owners. A giant FU to the fans and to people who's lives depend on the sport. The only ones who sign for more than 5 years are the guys making millions already so theyre fighting for the super rich..it's disgusting.
Of course the players would like to continue playing under the old CBA. It benefits them.
1 year, 11 months ago on The Reality Of The Average NHL Salary
@stevenabsmith I don't think it should a discussion over who is "more" wrong. Sure, maybe the players have a slightly better argument, but the fact of the matter is no one is considering the fans or the "real" working man who is now out of a job because all these people making 6 or 7 figures a year are squabbling over our money. Let's all start empathizing with the fans and the people that fund these guys.
@nyny6464 @YimYames18 @fushone @Herman_NYRBlog
I think it just boils down to both sides being greedy and not thinking of the fans..Plain and simple. Without us, they have no profit to argue about
@Herman_NYRBlog Well then I could use the analogy that someone at my level would be wrong for fighting for food stamps, even though i had a bunch, when others didnt have any. The point is that, as a profession, they make more than 99% of everyone else, and they're still fighting for more.......and the "more" they're fighting over is money from people who don't even have much to begin with. I haven't heard one player mention sacrificing something for the fans....EVER. Plus no one is saying they have to take whatever the owners offer...This has gone on long enough and they have gotten a lot of concessions from the owners (Who I think suck even more), but it's not enough. Fancy cars are not a normal cost of life.