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I think you missed out one of the most divisive points, certainly among those who've been watching a while; Rose's relationship with the Doctor. If you liked that aspect, you're more likely to prefer RTD's take. If you didn't, then it's probable that Moffat's the man for you.
1 week, 3 days ago on The Divide in New Who: One Era to Another
@NorthWinds As a huge fan of the fifth Doctor, I have to take issue with your dismissal of him. Seasons 19 and 21 had some of the high points of the show's entire run. But agree with most of your assessment of the Tennant years. The writing was dire, too many deus ex machina endings, an unhealthy obsession with Rose and a complete destruction of the Master were just the biggest and most painful in a long line of mistakes RTD made.I don't think it's fair to blame John Simm for the disaster zone his Master became though. By all accounts, he wanted to play it much more subtly, a mask of charm hiding genuine menace. It was RTD who told him to play it more like the Joker's slightly barmier cousin, a decision Simm has gone on record since as seeing he regrets going along with. Had he been able to play the Master as he wanted, I think he could have been up there with the best of them. That he isn't is down to poor writing and direction, not any fault of his own.
1 month, 2 weeks ago on Why I Hate the Tenth Doctor’s Regeneration
@Conall McCormick Agree with everything SirTrey said in his replies, so not going to address those points again. But point one definitely needs looking at. RTD was leaving, so what?! He's not the first major figure from behind the scenes to move on and he won't be the last. But not one of his predecessors felt the need to have such a self-indulgent curtain call and I'll put money on none of his successors following suit either.
1 month, 3 weeks ago on Why I Hate the Tenth Doctor’s Regeneration
@Ollie Walton Harrod Why does it being RTD's final story have any bearing on it? A great many production staff have come and gone over the show's 50+ years, nobody else felt the need to make a big on-screen announcement about it. If, as you suggest, that really came into his thinking, it turns the whole thing into an exercise in egomania, which is even worse.
Very well put, found myself agreeing with virtually every word, which is a rarity on here. The regeneration scene was just mawkish, self-indulgent drivel. The farewell tour was an awful idea - I'm regenerating, hold on while I revisit everyone I've ever met, taken a round the world cruise, translate War and Peace into every language under the sun... I'm amazed he didn't end up dying of old age! And that final line is quite possibly the single worst line in the programme's entire history, turning the Doctor into a pathetic, mewling wimp. Watch Caves of Androzani (as others have said), watch Parting of the Ways (proof RTD could write a decent regeneration story, although that makes his failure with End of Time even worse), watch Planet of the Spiders. That's how to go out: nobly, stoically, heroically. Not snivelling like a spoiled brat.That line did something I never thought possible, it made me embarrassed to be a fan. I was a teenager in the 90s, I remember watching Dimensions in Time knowing I'd have to face my schoolmates on Monday morning. Even that didn't make me feel as bad as watching End of Time. And that I can't forgive.
She's definitely dead. Moffat wrote the scene to answer the criticism that death was never permanent in Who. One of the recurring characters had to go and she was deemed expendable. That's it, no big surprise, so twist, no cop-out, nothing. She's dead, simple as that.
3 months ago on Could Osgood Still Be Alive?
More indicative of how TV viewing habits have changed over the last decade than anything else. Good to see it's still higher than most of the competition though!
6 months, 1 week ago on Deep Breath UK Ratings
Only reason for getting it would be for the extras, but I'll be waiting to see if they're on the complete series set later on. If they're not, I'm sure I'll be able to pick up a cheap second hand copy in 6 months or so, certainly not paying over the odds for a single story!
6 months, 3 weeks ago on Deep Breath Standalone DVD & Blu-Ray
@awkward912 @badblokebob Is that a high price? Absolutely, considering how much of it is already available elsewhere. But it's not unexpected - most Who boxed sets start life around that price and they all contain material already available elsewhere.
7 months, 1 week ago on Doctor Who 50th Anniversary Collection DVD & Blu-ray
Wasn't going to get it. Then I saw the Five(ish) Doctors was included and I thought I might have to keep an eye out in CeX and places like that. Then saw the list of extras. I'm so glad I'm working a lot of extra hours this month and next!
@Mary Sue's Vertue If you actually read the replies here, you'll soon find that many of the people who don't like this scene, and don't like the 10/Rose dynamic in general, were fans long before RTD got anywhere near the show. It's not all about 10 v 11 or RTD v Moffat you know, there are 11 other very good actors to have played the role, more if you count non-canonicals like Cushing & Atkinson or stand-ins like Hurndall. Not to mention all the very talented producers and writers who have helped it reach 50 years and beyond. A lot of the criticisms are from people who grew up with the programme and didn't like the direction it took during Tennant's era - Hollyoaks in space is a description I've heard often and fits rather well. There are people who made the show great, people RTD, Tennant, Moffat, Capaldi et al (all of whom were fans first) would acknowledge, long before anything you've mentioned and maybe, just maybe, the comments are reflecting the opinion that some of these people deserve a little more recognition.
Try taking a wider look rather than just forcing everything to fit into your neat, preconceived little boxes.
8 months ago on Why the Doomsday Farewell is Not the Greatest
@DrsCoffeeCup Thanks for clearing that up. Wasn't aware of how the voting worked, in fact I wasn't even aware there was a vote until the top 10 was announced, so that explains quite a lot about the outcome.
@SteviePenny You really have no idea about figures do you? "A large mass of thousands" and an "unfathomable number"? No. If there were only 250 options (unlikely as the magazine references it being a top 250, but we'll go with it), then the mean number of votes per scene would be 384. Obviously being the no. 1 in this poll, it will have received more than that. Only the people at SFX will know for sure how many were cast for each individual scene, but it's statistically unlikely that it received more than a few thousand, which is minute compared to the number of people who watch regularly.
Also, it's almost certain that more people voted for something else. What the writer is talking about is why they feel it shouldn't have been at the top. The reasons might be unique to them, everyone has slightly different reasons for whether they agree with the poll or the writer more, but the statistical probability is that this article actually represents a majority viewpoint.
@SteviePenny The one coming across as silly here is you, with your misunderstanding of figures. We don't know how many people actually voted for this scene. We know 96,000 voted in total, but given the number of scenes available (the final list contained the top 250, with many more available to be voted for), the actual number voting for this scene would have been considerably lower. So to try claiming 100,000 people all agree this is the greatest scene ever is just bull!
No. A one dimensional walking cliche of a character is not what we need. Really don't see the appeal of her. She was designed to fit in with a headline grabbing episode title, she was never intended to be anything more than that. Just because she was made from forcibly taken DNA, that doesn't automatically make her anything special. If you want the Doctor's family, what about Susan? You know, his actual granddaughter, not some genetically engineered clone/relative hybrid. She stayed behind on Earth, what's to stop her coming back (complete with children if that's what you want)? It's an area that's been touched on by Big Finish, so not beyond the realms of possibility.
8 months, 4 weeks ago on Bring Back… Jenny, the Doctor’s Daughter