TheNightmareChild, agent of H.U.M.B.U.G.
Ho Ho... Hoowaahaahaahaahaa!!!!! >:D
My problems with the episode have never been with the science, as I was never terribly concerned with that in the first place, and remains with the rest of the story and how boring and nonsensical it is.
10 hours, 28 minutes ago on Moffat Defends In the Forest of the Night Science Criticisms
Well, since everybody is talking about The End of Time whether they voted for it or not, and I am, as ever, easily swayed by peer pressure, I'll throw my hat into the ring. I mean, why not? I'll start by getting my list of faults out of the way: 1. the resurrection scene - frankly one of the most bizarrely poorly written scenes in all of New Who, if not the entirety of the show. 2. The Vinvocci - as characters I don't mind so much, more how they look. In many ways, this special felt like an episode on a budget more than any other; and in no other place was this more exemplified than with the design of the Vinvocci characters. I've seen more convincing Halloween costumes made with cardboard and crayola crayon. 3. The Master Race scene - kind of a quibble, but related to the "on a budget" problem brought up in the last point. The idea, of course, is fine and effectively horrid. But the actual effect of people just quickly shaking their heads is so silly looking, especially with the accompanying sound effects, that it is quite hard to take it seriously while it's happening. 4. Rassilon's Narration - Not a bad idea in itself. At the beginning of the special, it actually serves quite well in setting the tone for the episode. But the way it was handled in the middle portions makes it apparent that it was mostly a way of padding out the running time. Not to mention, it makes the Time Lords' reveal at the end of part one less exciting when we've seen Rassilon's face already.
And that's pretty much it. All of my major problems in this special are in the first part of the special. From there, I quite like the rest of it. It's a grand, emotional and epic story. The dialogue between Wilf and the Doctor is a particular highlight in terms of character writing, the way it delves into Ten's character as someone deeply troubled and guilt ridden over his past, and makes the point in the end that, while he may not have wanted it, he needed that change. He needed to go. It doesn't mean he needs to be happy about it. It doesn't mean that he doesn't have to be trepidatious and a bit sad that the present he is going to burn away in a golden blaze and be replaced by some completely different him. Because he is alone, no companions around to put a brave face on for, he is allowed to be a bit more honest about it. Critics of this line and Ten's attitude in general toward regeneration feel like he is being particularly self-centered and somehow disrespectful to other incarnations that have come before or will come after. Little remembering or realizing that the Doctor as a character has always been a creature of ego in all of his forms. On occasion, he's even gotten the opportunity to say right to their faces that he doesn't think much of his other personalities. So I fail to see how, in this context, it is somehow wrong for him to indulge in a bit of melancholic reflection on the process. I've talked about it before, but when you get down to it, regeneration is an existentially terrifying prospect. Just because he's "used to it" by now doesn't mean he has to like it anymore than he always has.
Critics tend to bring up the Master as well and his new found (let's call them) superpowers and voracious appetite. Honestly, my only issue with it really is that it's not well explained what exactly is going on with him. We only vaguely understand that the resurrection potions and the death potion reacted badly and somehow turned him into a Dragon Ball Z villain. I think for this reason, the Master in this special is hard for some people to swallow, and I can't say I blame them. But again, some critics throw the word "silly" into this discussion as if it's a special case - as if the Master up till now has always been dignity incarnate, and never at various points a zombie (for all intents and purposes), a cat person, a glowing, green snake phantom, not to mention the innumerable ludicrous "disguises" he's used through his career. Speaking personally, the blue skull visual was effectively disturbing and quite a nice visual reference to one of the zombies I mentioned earlier. And the turkey eating scene was quite viscerally disgusting, which I imagine was kind of the point; illustrating that despite his immense power, the Master is in a rather desperate state.
Finally, another point of contention is the "indulgent" final farewell by Ten. People toss that word out as if 1. Russell hasn't earned the right to be a little indulgent for not only bringing the show back but keeping it going this long, and 2. that he was doing this solely for himself and not for the fans who would've clearly appreciated one last farewell to our favorite characters, and two notable surprises at the end. Personally, while I question the choice of making Martha an alien bounty hunter, I felt that in general each of these farewell scenes was poignant and well executed, especially the ones with Rose and Verity Newman. Also, some of these same people who spurn this indulgence don't have anything to say about the similar fan pandering in The Time of the Doctor, with all of the familiar iconography of the Matt Smith era strewn willy-nilly about the TARDIS in an attempt to milk tears out of the fans as they go "B-oooooh, fish fingers and cuuhuuustaaaahaaahaaarrd..." Sure, this wallowing was briefer than The End of Time, but in a way that actually makes it worse because it makes less sense in context and makes it come off as more cynical and less thoughtful, at least to me.
In summation, while I think The End of Time is far form perfect, I still think there's a lot to like from it. And I find some of the complaints leveled against it a bit puzzling.
11 hours, 18 minutes ago on Festive Face-Off: The End of Time vs Voyage of the Damned
@MaddyKika Actually, you're in surprisingly good company. Although it's usually foolish to judge by the comments, but since it's the only thing I have to go on at the moment, I think this one's gonna be closer than anyone expected.
11 hours, 36 minutes ago on Festive Face-Off: The End of Time vs Voyage of the Damned
@The Finn, Agent of SPECTRE @TheNightmareChild, agent of R.A.C.C.O.O.N. @ilyootha, agent of C.L.A.R.A. Well... that's... wrong. And people should just... stop doin' that....
12 hours, 41 minutes ago on Festive Face-Off: The End of Time vs Voyage of the Damned
@ilyootha, agent of C.L.A.R.A. @TheNightmareChild, agent of R.A.C.C.O.O.N. So you're letting the behavior of a minority of admittedly obnoxious fans ruin your enjoyment of this episode?
12 hours, 46 minutes ago on Festive Face-Off: The End of Time vs Voyage of the Damned
@ilyootha, agent of C.L.A.R.A. That last one sounds like a personal problem. :P
13 hours, 5 minutes ago on Festive Face-Off: The End of Time vs Voyage of the Damned
I still vote for Voyage. Not because I dislike The End of Time at all. I quite like it. I have some problems with it, sure: the first part, in particular, could've been trimmed down considerably. No, my vote for Voyage is less an opinion on quality and more a statement that I've never considered The End of Time a Christmas special. Out of all of them, it seems by far the least concerned with the festive aspect and is, instead, much more focused on the departure of Ten. And that's certainly the right way to go in this particular instance. It's just that the holiday setting is such an afterthought that if there was any Christmas special that quite simply didn't deserve the distinction, it's this one. So again, I quite like The End of Time, but on principle, I have to choose Voyage of the Damned.
13 hours, 20 minutes ago on Festive Face-Off: The End of Time vs Voyage of the Damned
@Fine. MrRazza, RACCOONite, has put a Xmas hat on. I had a feeling this was your handiwork. :D
1 day, 8 hours ago on The Christmas Conundrum
Well, if you haven't been around for the first bazillion times I've said it, welcome to the bazillion-first! Yes, I generally prefer a Christmas special in which the Christmas:Who ratio is just a pinch more in Who's favor. The early Christmas specials had such a unique tone and energy to them for having those festive elements more underplayed. I personally find all of RTD's Christmas specials and The Snowmen a joy to watch. And I've grown to appreciate The Time of the Doctor more on later watches, but less for the Christmassiness (which incidentally I don't mind as a word at all) and more for the emotional atmosphere surrounding it. I think when the show goes this route, it stays more true to the spirit of the show. It helps ground a show that needs every grounding influence it can get. So it takes me out of the story completely when I watch the Doctor and Sardick fly around on a sky shark sleigh. And while the stuff with Madge and the story about keeping the death of their father away from her children had some emotional heft to it, the "tree spirits" aspect and Madge piloting the "Mother Ship" is so on the nose as to be stomach churning, to say nothing of the cop out ending of the father being saved. I mean, how the hell are they going to explain that to the Air Force?
1 day, 10 hours ago on The Christmas Conundrum
Another thing I loved about Voyage was the ending, both in regards to Mister Copper and the running gag where it's snowing but not really. The former warms the cockles of my cold, cold heart considerably, and the latter just shows a degree of self-awareness that I find hilarious and endearing. I feel like RTD wasn't simply making Christmas specials as he went on, but was actually sort of lampooning the very concept of them. And at a time when we're already get all the jingle bells and Christmas trees and Santa Claus played very straight from just about every other venue, it's a delightful and charming contrast.
1 day, 15 hours ago on Festive Face-Off: Voyage of the Damned vs The Next Doctor
@supermoff @TheNightmareChild, agent of R.A.C.C.O.O.N. @The Lazy Cat XD Well, that's lovely.
1 day, 16 hours ago on Festive Face-Off: Voyage of the Damned vs The Next Doctor
@supermoff @The Lazy Cat Didn't you rate 42 a zero out of ten, or a one or something?
@Antee991166 @LGwalchmai95 Chalk it up to age and forgetfulness. ;-)
@Antee991166 @supermoff I love that moment. I think it proves what I love the most about this special: that it wears its silliness right on its sleeve and dares you to not be entertained by it. :)
@Antee991166 @supermoff His motivations were a bit boring, but the fact that the cyborg thing came back around and it is implied that he was ousted because of his cyborg status was quite good.
@supermoff @Notsosmartguy @TheNightmareChild, agent of R.A.C.C.O.O.N. You seem to be missing some R's there, supermoff.
@Notsosmartguy On rewatch, The Next Doctor really isn't bad at all. I can even get behind the Cyberking thing a little more easily than I used to.
Voyage of the Damned. An inherently silly and madcap adventure that even manages a touching moment here and there, filled with vibrant and likable characters. It's that peculiar blend of camp color and darker undertones that is so unique to RTD that shouldn't work but just does.
@Huknar @Fine. MrRazza, RACCOONite, has put a Xmas hat on. @supermoff @The Finn, Agent of SPECTRE I always felt like the lack of a strong Christmas focus added a real tinge of humor to the specials. It feels like a deliberate perversion of a typical Christmas special. I think that's exemplified by the running "it's snow, but not really" gag in all of them. Whereas Moffat's were mostly just straight Christmas fluff. And some of the more whimsical elements really took me out of the story. I mean, Christ, those f*cking sky sharks have got to be a real problem for those people, don't they?
2 days, 10 hours ago on Festive Face-Off: The Christmas Invasion vs The Runaway Bride
@supermoff @TheNightmareChild, agent of R.A.C.C.O.O.N. I guess if you want, taking both parts together as one story, you could count it as both a Christmas and New Year special at the same time. If you wanted to go out of your way for it anyway.
2 days, 11 hours ago on Festive Face-Off: The Christmas Invasion vs The Runaway Bride
@supermoff @TheNightmareChild, agent of R.A.C.C.O.O.N. The funny thing is, I've never thought of The End of Time as a Christmas special. It was always way more just a regeneration story to me. The Christmas aspect of the setting always felt like an afterthought, thrown in out of necessity and then quickly forgotten. Even in RTD's previous specials, the presence of a festive aspect, while certainly not the focus, was at least strongly present to a greater or lesser extent.
Question is: how far is my favorite special, Voyage of the Damned going to make it? I don't think there's even a question at this point that A Christmas Carol is going to be the victor overall, but it's hard to put my finger on where exactly Voyage lies in the fandom's favor. Opinions on that one seem to be all over the place.
@Notsosmartguy @supermoff @Antee991166 In fact, if anything gets a cringe from me in that episode it's probably Lance. For one thing, it was quite silly of him to fall in line with the Racnoss in the first place, but second of all his turn was so sharp as to be ridiculous. I mean, he actually has an evil laugh, for God's sake.
@Notsosmartguy @supermoff @Antee991166 Yeah, she's hammy and eggy and bacony, and I think it works in this case. I think, one, because it is a Christmas special and I'm already giving it a little more leeway, and two, I think the fact that she is an alien also helps, which means she already has a bit more freedom from typical dramatic conventions and is kind of allowed to be a bit odd.
@Notsosmartguy @Antee991166 I know, right? What could possibly be stupider? Like, the moon being an egg or something? :P
Oh my, this really is a tough one for me. They're both up there. Harriet Jones, or Donna Noble plus the Racnoss, one of the more entertaining villains in my opinion? Close shave, but I'm gonna go with The Runaway Bride.
2 days, 12 hours ago on Festive Face-Off: The Christmas Invasion vs The Runaway Bride
@91 Queen of Evil @Switcharoo I know, right? Political correctness run amuk! How would people feel if Reddit became Pinkkit?
4 days, 11 hours ago on Site Update: Christmas 2014
Hey! What's this?! What is this?! I don't like change!
Seriously, though, the site looks marvelous. ;-)
There needs to be a Doctor Who mod for GTA if there isn't one already. O_O
5 days, 13 hours ago on Weird and Wonderful
Sad to say the only one of this selection that I have actually watched is TDIOE. Luckily, though, I did enjoy that one. And at the very least, this article does seem like a good list of suggestions so I can finally start wittling down my backlog of Classic Who viewing. And now that I have an Amazon Prime subscription, that has become a lot easier. So thank you, K-Ci. 😊
6 days, 12 hours ago on Doctor Who: Fifty-One Favourites (Part 3)
"To be fair sometimes we’ve come close to doing that with the Christmas specials.". Actually, the major thing that I appreciated about A Christmas Carol was that it was a standalone story. That way I can ignore it completely and it isn't at all problematic. 😋
6 days, 12 hours ago on Moffat on Criticisms that Doctor Who Is Too Dark
Well, if Santa isn't going to be evil, at least he's gonna be badass. >:)
Also, are we to believe now that Rudolph's nose is some sort of cybernetic upgrade?
1 week ago on Last Christmas New Clip
I'm not sure why the Orson Pink thing was such a big deal anyway, or why everyone assumed that he just had to be Clara and Danny's direct descendant. It was pretty obvious to me that Orson was the Doctor Farnsworth to Danny's Philip Fry. As for the Osgood thing, while I was never that invested in Osgood in the first place, I do offer my sympathies to her fans, and also some advice: don't take Moffat at his word on this. I made that mistake once, and all I got for my trust was thoroughly dumbfounded and slightly hurt. Of course, I wound up liking Missy so it's hard to complain too much now. :)
1 week, 1 day ago on Moffat on Orson Pink Mystery
@Deceiving Whovians & Torturing them Vigorously Hopefully one with a middle of the road option somewhere in there for people like me who aren't too fussed either way?
1 week, 3 days ago on An Opinion On Gender Regeneration: Plot or Politics?
I certainly appreciate what seemed like an attempt to put forward arguments on this side more calmly and rationally than before. But I can't shake this Haven't we been here before? vibe from your points. And what is even more galling is that these are points that have been rebutted before. Where is the article rebutting those rebuttals? I mean, is this really all you guys have to say on the subject? There are already enough people in this comment section diligent enough to go point for point again but suffice it to say this article just feels like the same ugly, emotional response to this subject shined up and smoothed out as nice as you could possibly make them. The simple fact is none of the examples brought up can compare to Doctor Who because the specific formats preclude the possibilities that Doctor Who puts forward. Your Nelson Mandela/Margaret Thatcher argument doesn't hold water because those are real historical figures and so to significantly change their appearance racially or gender-wise outside of a deliberately absurdist or comedic purpose would be wholly inappropriate and irresponsible. I also take issue with your point about transgendered people in the media, as it seems to suggest that you think that their only place in television or film is in specific shows or movies that deal with them and their issues, and that you think presenting them in any other capacity, i.e. as normal people with normal interests outside of their gender identity, is somehow inappropriate.
I think at this point, it'll be easy to tell whether or not an article on this topic would be worth my time. I'll just quickly scan it and if at any point I spot Jane Bond I'll know it's time to click over.
@supermoff is in Christmas mode @The_Eternal_Dalek And not even change his accent or anything. Just play a stereotypical Jack Nicholson character, but dressed as Margaret Thatcher. XD
Overall, I agree with Miss Gomez. It is rather distasteful to comment on this when Capaldi is only a year in. But since the subject was brought up, I'll reiterate: I don't feel strongly either way. I think there's ample argument in both directions - staying male vs. becoming female. If next time round, the Doctor is a woman, as long as I like the actress and her portrayal then I'll be golden. I just don't see a female Doctor as some sort of end all goal to propel the show into iron clad legitimacy that some seem to see it as.
1 week, 4 days ago on Moffat: Gender is Fluid on Gallifrey
Being not entirely religious myself, I like to interpret the ending of the series, particularly as it pertains to Danny, for want of a better term, areligiuosly. In broad, simplistic terms, I interpret Danny's redemptive scene in regards to the young boy as finding redemption in oneself rather than seeking atonement through some unseen supernatural agency.
1 week, 5 days ago on The Ambiguous Themes of Series Eight
@supermoff is in Christmas mode @TheNightmareChild, agent of R.A.C.C.O.O.N. @Antee991166 @Notsosmartguy Agent of C.H.R.I.S.T.M.A.S. Yeah, I could say I was abusing too, but if I'm being honest, my friend the Captain probably has the upper hand.
@supermoff is in Christmas mode @TheNightmareChild, agent of R.A.C.C.O.O.N. @Antee991166 @Notsosmartguy Agent of C.H.R.I.S.T.M.A.S. Speaking of port, my good supermoff, I would be remiss in my responsiblitles as the site's resident grammar-Nazi if I didn't point out that you've rather let it go in this last comment; and I wonder if you haven't been... abusing....
@Notsosmartguy Agent of C.H.R.I.S.T.M.A.S. @TheNightmareChild, agent of R.A.C.C.O.O.N. @Antee991166 Some less so than others, but you are probably right. :)
@Antee991166 @Notsosmartguy Agent of C.H.R.I.S.T.M.A.S. However, strong character focus still isn't an excuse for an incoherent narrative. And while the series 8 arc certainly wasn't awful or even, I feel, truly bad in that respect, it's still important to hold writers accountable for that.
After reading this cracker of an article, I look forward to reading your article on the theme of identity with fervent, you might say religious, anticipation Mr. Rolls. Very thoughtful and considered. Well done! :D
@ilyootha, agent of C.L.A.R.A. Has anyone already suggested "Oswaldi"?
1 week, 6 days ago on New Last Christmas Clips in BBC Festive Showreel
Why do I have the feeling that the face parasite things (the Sleepers?) are, like, allergic to tangerines or something?
1 week, 6 days ago on Last Christmas Promo Gallery
@YaelMoise, acolyte of D.O.C.T.O.R. Oooh, acolyte even. Look at Miss College and her twenty dollar words. :P
@supermoff of C.L.A.R.A. can't wait for Christmas! @TheNightmareChild, agent of R.A.C.C.O.O.N. @Temporal Tomato, jumping on the B.A.N.D.W.A.G.O.N Fair enough.
2 weeks ago on Last Christmas Promo Gallery
@supermoff of C.L.A.R.A. can't wait for Christmas! @Temporal Tomato, jumping on the B.A.N.D.W.A.G.O.N How does it always come back to this?
What is it about the people with parasitic alien looking things stuck to their faces that remind me of Half-Life?
If you had to pick two post-GMGTW episodes from series 6, at least you chose the two good ones. :P Yes, The Girl Who Waited and The God Complex are both dark, complex and scintillating episodes with strong character focus framed by fascinating premises. I also don't care what anyone says - I like The Rings of Akhaten. Yeah it's a bit on the schmaltzy side, but the alien society is well realized and characterized, it's a strong showcase for Clara's character in series seven, and plus it's refreshing not only to have the Doctor specifically recount some of his past adventures, but actually exhibit some emotional vulnerability in regards to them. It is what it is and I quite enjoy it for that.
2 weeks ago on Doctor Who: Fifty-One Favourites (Part 2)