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One final thought.....if I may. It's a small observation, and one I may be shot down for, but.....hopefully not.
I and others have been dismissed for daring to read too much into Mr Moffat's comment.....as if we're missing the point somehow, and that he's in no way questioning the Doc's heritage, but simply setting a straightforward quest for Whovians.....Find that all important, quote, verification, Time Lord certificate of authentication, that proves the Doctor is indeed completely extraterrestrial in nature and not jut 'alien' in character.
Fair enough that may be the general thrust of his utterances. I acknowledge that possibility .
But I'd like our detractors to acknowledge the possibility that a slight air of questioning can understandably be construed from his statements. I draw your attention to the following.....(as before I'll underline the relevant bits).....“Here’s a question I tried on some Doctor Who fans recently, and we were all a bit startled by the answer, when it finally emerged – if we got it right."
And also....."Okay; keeping in mind that everything you know for sure is probably wrong, answer me this: in which story is it confirmed, definitively, that the Doctor is not human?"
Now please, is it not possible to acknowledge the fact that some may have reasonably detected a sense of 'questioning' in those quotes? Or an air of potential doubt?
As I've said, this may be a straightforward attempt to get Whovians scouring old stories to confirm some facts. And good for him. But why throw in those codas....."if we got it right?".....keeping in mind everything you know for sure is probably wrong".....Why?
For me, its not unreasonable for someone to read something into that, but it is unreasonable to call anyone who does so 'stupid', or simply dismiss them all as 'Moffat haters'. Such sentiments are neither constructive.....nor polite.
4 months, 3 weeks ago on Moffat: Who says the Doctor is NOT human?
This is brilliant.....was there a sale at the 'High Horse Shop' today because a lot of people are riding one.
Me too. Weeeeeeee!
Its shocking, but a lot of people seems amazed that other people have.....wait for it.....differing opinions and interpretations. Dun dun dun!
I know, shocking isn't it.
Some people think other people are foolish for reading too much into this article. Other people think those people aren't reading enough into it, and other people are answering the question Mr Moffat set. I did both.....but that's just me.
Sadly though, things are beginning to turn a little sour, and even a little personal. An air of condescension and belittlement is filtering into proceedings and my irreverence isn't helping either. So if possible, it might be nice to remember that its only a T.V show, and we're all very nice people who love said T.V show.
Come on, group hug. Lets be nice.
@Amy's on the Mofflex Diet In my comments.....hopefully.
C'mon, cheer up.
@Amy's on the Mofflex Diet Yes, that's just what I aim for. Get in.
For what its worth, the retcon thing was a cheeky dig at other Moffatty interferences, and did not pertain to the issue of the article.
@TheOncomingSnow @Sir James Bond @Amy's on the Mofflex Diet Well.....in one of my interpretations, he 'clearly' is.
Is that ok with you? I mean, you've made your mind up about the whole thing, as is your right, yet you chastise others for doing the same. Interesting.
And by the way, other people are similarly dismissing other interpretations, will you be pulling them up about it too? Something tells me you probably wont.
And for what its worth, I pondered other possible scenarios in my initial comment, but you probably didn't read that. Or should I say 'clearly'?
@TheOncomingSnow @Sir James Bond @Amy's on the Mofflex Diet Or we've simply interpreted it differently.
That's possible isn't it? Maybe I think he's alluding to something bigger.....and maybe you think he's simply instigating a Whovian treasure hunt or posing a straightforward question.
Alas with Moffat, things are rarely straightforward, so please allow myself and others the privilege of a bit of conjecture.
@Amy's on the Mofflex Diet Blimey, I know this must be very frustrating for you, but please, tell us what type of comments you'd like us to make.
Your dieting hero is clearly skimming around certain themes and issues without explicitly committing to anything.....so in the absence of any 'complete picture', some people are simply answering the one definite question he did pose.....'When did the Beeb make him alien?'
Now its good for Moff to fuel a bit of debate and conjecture, but all we can do is each address what ever issues we can salvage, in our own way. If this annoys you or anyone else, then sorry, I'm sure we'll try to improve next time.
"Come on then to your DVD collections. In what story did the good men and women of the BBC explicitly say that I can't further rubber stamp my presence on the wider history of the show?"
Oh Mr Moffat I'm not entirely sure what you're attempting here.....but kudos for whipping up a minor storm in a tea cup.
If this is some half a*sed attempt at exploring what it actually means to be a human being, a la the Third Doctor - "Yes, well, the definition of the word humanity was always a rather a complex question, wasn't it?" - then fair enough, well done. I'm sure we'll all take to our rooms and start contemplating the unique traits that distinguish us from all other life forms.
If, on the other hand, you're simply preempting another bout of Moffat tinkering.....then hey ho, I guess the teaser campaign has well and truly started. But tread carefully my friend, because you may be stirring up another potential fan backlash.
For what its worth, in answer to your question, I'll simply quote the Fourth Doctor (and I'll quote him in really big letters, so the point is clear) "I'M NOT A HUMAN BEING, I'M A TIME LORD.....". Look I even underlined the really important bits, so as to avoid any uncertainty.
So, 'Pyramids of Mars', 1975, that's when the good men and women at the BBC stop fudging the issue and made our hero Not one of Us. And look, it's in a proper televised story and everything......no series bibles, internal memos, or, ahem, retconned continuity (a bit rich). There were other little bits and pieces before this story that more than alluded to the Doctor's extraterrestrial nature, but that quote really answers your question doesn't it. What else do we need? Final verification from Jeremy Kyle?
By the way, it's amusing to see how readily the most devout acolytes readily accept the question being posed in the first place, and fair enough, its interesting to examine and explore issues and themes that surround the show. But I can't help but wonder if they'd have quite so accommodating if somebody else had raised the issue.
@Warisfiller @DaftDalek '.....ruin everything'.....What even the ending to 'The Power of Three'?
4 months, 4 weeks ago on Doomsday Farewell Declared Greatest Sci-Fi Moment
@TheNightmareChild... is Boe Derek @supermoff @Notsosmartguy @Amy's on the Mofflex Diet 'Super Sexism' vs 'Deus Ex Machina'
@DaftDalek No, 'trimph' works.
I celebrate every time I 'trimph' in the bath.
@Amy's on the Mofflex Diet Everybody.....he mentioned 'Star Trek' on a 'Doctor Who' site.
I don't care how muscly he is.
@Notsosmartguy "Happy Birthday to you.
You like 'Doctor Who'.
You say you're 'Notsosmart',
That's simply not true."
@TheNightmareChild... is Boe Derek @Sir James Bond Sorry, the answers 'noisy'.
See if you can spot the extra word that really shouldn't be there because I changed the flow of the sentence but forgot to get rid of it and now I can't get rid of it because there's no 'Edit' button and now I've got to put up with this word just sitting there mocking me with its bloody presence.
The clue is - 'A fixed World Cup game is.....
And cue the cries of.....
....." 'SFX' magazine is a hotbed of Tennant fan-girls."
....."The poll was stymied when the 'Rose Tyler on a Pretend Norwegian Beach Appreciation Society' facebook page got wind of it".
....."RTD intimidated thousands of tiny sci fi fans with his immense height, and made 'em vote for it."
Or, maybe, just maybe, thousands of diverse individuals voted for it because, well, its a tremendously powerful piece of television. It is. Even now. 75 years later and its still capable of hitting all the right emotional buttons.....in the right order, and with a poignant delicacy of touch.
Its beauty lies in its pitch. Its the culmination of a farewell that effectively started with a slip of a hand. That moment alone - with Ten and Rose separated by a simple plain white wall.....and a universe - might have served as a perfectly adequate and emotionally resonant farewell. But no, the big Welsh maestro had other tricks up his voluminous sleeves.....because the crescendo had yet to reach its peak.
Those final moments on a Bad Wolf Bay are the pinnacle of both a superb piece of writing and flagrant display of sheer emotional manipulation. Its success can be measured not only in the number of tears shed, but the fact that it set the template for future companion departures. In fact its influence can be felt in Amy's adieu. The slow mo fall (horizontal with Rose, vertical with Amy), the scene we think is the final farewell that proves not to be (separation by wall / fall from roof) and the eventual teary eyed goodbye in which someone disappears from view.
For me Ten's and Ms Tyler's goodbye still comes up tops though. That simple - pause - "I love you" is both perfectly timed and expertly delivered, and the Doctor's unspoken reply......well.....Its all beautiful. And then, just when you're recovering from all that, RTD throws Catherine Tate thrown into the mix as well. Only in 'Who'.
That said.....I am surprised at its position atop this poll. Not because of any perceived lack of quality, but more because of all the noisy 'Rose/ Ten hate' that floats around the ether. Anyway, I'm happy to see this scene up there. Brings a tear to the eye.....
@supermoff @Sir James Bond Oh you say that now, but soon it'll all be.....
"Oh its too soapy, Dalek heavy, Earth based, timey-wimey, sexist, sizeist, fan servicey, corridorist.....
4 months, 4 weeks ago on Unpopular Opinion? The Power of Three
Apologies if anyone has already suggested this.....in the past.....or maybe the future.....which would mean that I might be the first to suggest it after all.....oh I don't know.....anyway, the slow invasion scenario could make for an interesting - well vaguely interesting - season long arc. (yes, when I become show-runner the show will become known for its vaguely interesting season long arcs.....and elaborate dance routines).
The cubey conquering type thing (or something in the same ball park) could begin in Episode one (provisionally titled 'The Eyebrows of Wendor') with events really ramping up near episode end, before the Doc - for some contrived reason - is somehow sidetracked, for about.....oh.....11 episodes or so. And when he returns (in the season finale 'Wendor's Vendors.....of Doom'), he'll find that things have got a heck of a lot worse.
Or.....maybe seemingly minor details in Ep 1 later bloom into something far more malevolent in Ep 13. Like a new plant life or flower, that everybody loves, later turns out to be the Krynoids, (or the Krynoids brother.....the Veryannoids)
Anyway.....I don't mind 'The Power of Three'. It's fairly inoffensive, if a little lob sided. While undoubtedly entertaining (and rather touching) it never quite manages to equally balance 'intriguing character study' with 'exciting alien runaround' (a problem that similarly befell 'The Lodger'). As distinct and separate elements they're replete with potential, but when combined together one flavour unfortunately overpowers the other.....just a bit. Which is a shame. Ah well.
The Shakri are great though.....just dripping with disengaged, matter of fact, menace, and I loved the way the mole on Steven Berkoff's real life forehead was mirrored in his prosthetic alter ego. Cheeky Neil Gorton.
@Notsosmartguy @Sir James Bond Or there's the appeal of whatever passing bandwagon happens to be in town.
Follow the trend rather than engage with the issues in a reasoned way.
5 months ago on Colin Baker: Tennant & Smith Brought Female Fans to Doctor Who
Actually, looking over it again.....Colin never once says that girls only watched the show because they thought David and Matt were pretty or attractive.....not once. Yet he's being condemned in some circles for doing so.
He alludes to both actor's skill in convincingly portraying a 1000 year old alien, but he never mentions their looks.....only their age.....and their ability.
"Its always the same. All he has to do is open his mouth and everyone's having a go at him. well, enough is enough. This Baker hate has got to stop."
* disengage 'sarcasm mode' *
Interesting.....some people here condemn Colin for his audacious overgeneralisations, before they themselves rattle off a few of their own. Apparently everyone seems to know exactly what fuels female appreciation of our beloved show. And that's fine.....if you know for a fact why every single female decides to tune into 'Who', then great, tell on. If you don't.....
Now, unlike Chaka Khan, I'm not every woman, so I would never presume to state anyone's motives for watching. At the end of the day we can only declare our own, or the thoughts of those who may have shared their reasoning's. And these reasons may be as diverse as they are numerous. Love of sci-fi perhaps, or love of adventure, love of quarries, love of thrills, love of timey wimey contrivance, love of the prosthetic creations of Neil Gorton, love of the producing skills of Julie Gardner, love of a rattling good yarn, or maybe, just maybe, love of a lead actor.....or actress. Who knows.
Personally I can only say that, from personal experience, the number of female fans I know has increased immeasurably since the late Eighties. I'm not saying there were no female fans back then, - because that'd be silly - but at a guess I would say that they were in the minority. But again, that's only within the confines of my own personal sphere of experience. The story may have been vastly different elsewhere, I don't know.
Now, Colin may have conducted a similar compare and contrast between the two eras and witnessed a similar change in demographics. But along the way he appears to have come to his own conclusions as to why the Fantonic plates have shifted.
I'm just happy the Whovian community continues to grow and thrive.
Conversion, conversion, conversion.....the act of persuasion, of coaxing someone to change their beliefs.....to win 'em over to the Whovian cause.....interesting.
Tricky process 'conversion'.....too many variables. For instance, does the 'convertee' want to be converted, or is the converter converting the convertee against their will? Will the use of force be required? Or mild subjugation? Or the music of Keff McCulloch? These things need to be considered when attempting a total 'Who' conversion. Or totally ignored.....depends what mood you're in I suppose.....or how persuasive you are.....or how many Keff McCulloch CD's you have.
Y'see, if the subject of potential TARDIS enlightenment appears somewhat resistant to the process, then you'll have to be a wee bit more selective with your selections. They'll have to be totally convincing, so certain specific factors will have to be taken into account.
Number of corridors for instance. Does your chosen adventure have the requisite number of corridor running scenes? Corridors, as we know, play an important part of the 'Who' equation, so its best to aquatint any newbies with 'em early on.....especially if your newbie is unfamiliar with the entire concept of a 'corridor'. I mean so many places are fashionably 'open plan' these days, so the very idea of long, thin, adjoining rooms may be starling to some. So tread carefully.
Secondly, just how easily do people in your chosen episode - a) readily accept orders from a bloke dressed like an explosion in an 'Oxfam' shop; and - b) accept the fact they're calling said bloke nowt but 'Doctor'? Just 'Doctor'. Nothing else. I mean, I like my Postman, he's very friendly and all, but if he suddenly started getting all assertive, y'know, bossing me about and demanding detailed maps of the surrounding area, well, I'd want to call him something more substantial than 'Postman'. I'd want to know his first name at least, seems only fair, especially considering I've just run down some corridors for him.
But I digress.....
Your episode must also be chock full of Murray goodness (take your pick there), showcase some tasteful interior decor ideas, feature companion attire that's easily replicated, and something else.....oh what is it.....something important.....oh, that's right.....a compelling storyline, interesting characters, a genuine sense of drama and a satisfying conclusion. Simple.
If, on the other hand, your captive, I mean, 'potential Whovian', actively wants to join the chosen, then simply show them anything. Yes, that's right, anything. Use your Randomiser. Start anywhere, any era, any when. When we became Whovians, we didn't arrange it, or follow a predesignated route. No, we simply found it, stumbled upon it, discovered it. We chanced upon an episode.....and fell in love. Because this show's got.....'something'. Something special, something unique, something magical.
And if the person you want to impress is also looking for 'something'.....then they'll find it.....and they'll fall in love too.
5 months ago on You will become like us! The Best ‘Converter’ Episodes
@HitchcockWhovian I also don't mind calling him 'Doctor Who'......occasionally.
It feels quaint.....old school.....straightforward.....uncomplicated.....to the point.....reassuring.....warm.....brown.....a bit sticky.....oh, who did that.....well someone did it.....damn, that carpet's brand new.....I'll have to use blea.....sorry drifting.
The moniker 'Doctor Who' is often just a convenient shorthand explanatory title; ideal for important news reports ....."And the new Doctor Who was unveiled today...."; or general Whocentric conversations - " Who's your favourite Doctor Who? Mine's the one with the elbows".
I mean no-one's really going to go to the trouble of saying..... "Who's your favourite Doctor from the popular television series 'Doctor Who?".....are they? And simply asking someone who their favourite Doctor is sounds like your taking an unhealthy interest in their medical affairs.
Nah, the title Doctor Who has a time and a place.....
5 months ago on WHOops! When Doctor Who Gets It Wrong
There's a niggly little bit at the end of 'The Eleventh Hour' that always niggles me.....a bit.
I think I may know the reason for this apparent Time vessel contempt.....the TARDIS simply doesn't like 'The Gilmore Girls'.
Never has.....never will.
And Clara ( bless her ) has this very samey habit of often delivering lines in that - speaking very quickly in a one note, alarmingly self aware, aren't I being very clever - manner so beloved of nearly every character in that much missed e4 mainstay 'The Gilmore Girls'.
The possibility that one of Clara's many splintered personas managed to become a regular character on 'The Gilmore Girls' will soon form the basis my article 'Did one of Clara's many splintered personas manage to become a regular character on 'The Gilmore Girls'?'
5 months ago on Does Clara Hide a Secret that is Bigger on the Inside?
@MaraBackman @The Finn Speaking of Jack.....why no mention of Mr Barrowman's and Ms Julie Gardner's recent M.B.E.'s?
Its a fairly big deal (if you go for that kind of Establishment recognition thing) - bestowed upon two fairly prominent figures in the Whoniverse - and yet this site appears to have totally overlooked it.
Seems strange. So, if I may, I'd like to take this opportunity to raise a glass of Irn Bru, and offer them both a hearty well done, congratulations.....and, of course, 'thanks'.....for all your great work, dedication, and sheer joie de vivre.
@StephenAHayes Very noble sentiments.....very well put, and yet, I've noticed that you yourself often deride, slag off, and generally dismiss certain aspects of the show.....usually writers and stories from the RTD era. And that's fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion an all.
But isn't it a touch hypocritical to plead for tolerance and unquestioning appreciation now - 'Stop biting the hand that feeds you' - when you've exercised your right to protest in the past.
I don't mean to target you exclusively with this, so please don't feel aggrieved or put upon, its just that I find the selective morality that some display a little irksome. Certain appeals for harmony feel shallow.....less a case of 'Please stop all the hate', and more a case of 'Just don't hate the things I like'.
5 months, 1 week ago on Yes, I’m a Whovian, but I’m one of the nice ones
@Clara Laurinda 'Unit Dating System'.....well its confusing.
It all started when Mike Yates took the Brig out for drinks and a candle lit meal, and well, apparently it was actually Benton's turn to do it that night, so he was FURIOUS, as you can imagine. Then.....Jo pops up and takes both Benton and Mike to see a wonderful production of 'The King and I', which the Brig just adores, so he was well miffed. Then.....
Er.....I like, and applaud, the general thrust of this article.....(I think)......but.....
......you talk about 'averages' a lot. You first mention the 'average fan' who apparently doesn't really talk about 'Doctor Who' at all or post online comments about it.....by which I assume you mean the average man/woman in the street who happens to sit down to enjoy the show. Fine, fair enough. I've met many of these people, and also gladly accepted many wonderful Christmas presents from them. (Davros bubble bath! Get in.) But later you go on to mention the 'average online fan' who won't post anything big, by which I assume.....well.....I'm not sure. Who's the 'average online' Doctor Who fan? Are 'we' the 'average online' Doctor Who fan. What do you mean by 'average'. Who measures this. Is it judged on number of sites visited or comments made. I don't wish to appear churlish, its just that you seem very keen on categorising people.....and that's often quite a tricky thing to do. Because people often dislike being categorised, or being told what particular subgroup they belong too. But hey ho.
This all appears to be a question of perception.
You state that.....'We see those who hate the show, those who love the heck out of it but rarely do we see any others'. Well that not entirely true. There are many, many moderate voices out there (usually on this site) whose personal preferences and tastes are tempered by an even handed appreciation of all eras. These are the voices I focus on. I acknowledge the fact that extremists exist on both sides, but I don't let them set the agenda or define the show for me. If people want to dwell on and counter what the militants say then fine.....but these elusive 'others' are indeed out there, and their voices are usually the most engaging and enlightening of all.
Being a bit of a exercise nut, (I'm not) I prefer the lean, modest goodness of 'Arc Lite'. (I do)
'Arc Lite' feels less stodgey, less burdensome, less restrictive, and it really allows a season of 'Doctor Who' to function with greater, individual, storytelling confidence. And it tastes great too. Mmmmm.....'Missing Bees and Raspberry' flavour.
'Full Fat Arc' is undoubtedly very tasty, but its a flavour that often requires specific knowledge and a need for cross-referencing awareness.....which may appeal to the 'initiated', but can often leave 'casuals' feeling bloated and uncomfortable.
'Arc Lite' is 90% 'overly pre-determined' free, meaning a tenure can unfold naturally while still being flexible enough to re-utilise various disparate plot elements if required.
'Full Fat Arc' feels happier laying out its mysteries with the first mouthful, meaning subsequent scoops often have a functional - box ticking - quality about them. It can almost define an entire era in its earliest days.....and were's the finger licking fun in that?
Nah, for nimble, think on yer feet, 'Doctor Who' goodness.....try 'Arc Lite'.
5 months, 1 week ago on Comparing the Different Arcs of the Revival
@MrRazza I'm with you Razza. As an end of season, slam bang, no holds barred, ambition tickling, full on, spectacle slapping finale 'The Stolen Earth'/'Journey's End' ticks all the right boxes.....and guess what.....it got bums in seats. Lots of 'em. In fact 'Journey's End' is the only 'Doctor Who' story, in its entire 51 year history, to find itself atop the weekly ratings. Wallop! Job done. That's how you conclude a season.
But beyond the glittery (razza)matazz (titter), I think the first twenty or so minutes of 'The Stolen Earth' are ruddy brilliant. Talk about expertly cranking up the tension. The disembodied voices, the ominous music, the Daleks had never felt so threatening.....and they hadn't even appeared on screen yet. All we had were the reactions of those who had fought and confronted the malevolent little pepperpots in the past.....and they were all sh*tting themselves.
Oh RTD, you clever little dramatist you.
Clever show-runner too.
His detractors say he overused the Daleks, that he diminished their power, their allure. Well judging from the ratings, I'd say the Great British - license fee paying - public, wholeheartedly disagreed. They loved it.....and so did I.
5 months, 1 week ago on Is it time for Davros to return?
@MrRazza @Sir James Bond Maybe he could wear a variety of hats.....every scene.....a new hat.
Or what if he switched hats during the course of one confrontation with the Doctor.....you know.....to unsettle him. Every time we cut back to Davros.....a new hat.
I think Davros should return with a moustache.
I've been drawing a selection of test moustaches on various pictures of Davros, and, well, it works. He looks more menacing.....and macho.
In a world of uncertainty and doubt, there's one thing that can always be relied on.....
.....a handy escape pod.....
.....with Davros inside......
.....listening to music......
....probably 'Fireflies' by Owl City. Its his favourite song. In fact he performs a very beautiful cover version of it on his latest album 'Up Amongst The Gods'. Its an eclectic collection of songs, ranging from the bombastic - 'Destroyer Of Worlds'; the quirky - 'Leather Tunic Blues'; and the heartfelt 'Touch My Plunger'. There's even a touching dedication to his former henchman - 'Nyder Here Nor There'.
All in all I give 'Up Amongst The Gods' 3 egomaniacal cackles out of 5. Its a vast improvement on his last effort 'Sexy Neck', and proves that, given the right material, Davros can still deliver.
That's all he needs for a worthwhile return.....the right material.
@TardisBoy I've been commenting on this site, in some way shape or form, for over two years now (I even remember you first tentative days on here Tardisboy) and I actually applied for access to the GWDP a while back.....and heard nothing.....twice.
Trolls can surely impersonate, hassle and infiltrate any thread they wish, so the security reasoning feels a bit flimsy, and inconsistent, if you ask me.
Anyhoo.....its nothing major.....I'm just curious. If some faces fit, then so be it. I'll happily knock around here. The company's nice and the food's reasonably priced.
5 months, 1 week ago on Why Bringing Back Gallifrey is Wrong
Sorry about this Ivy, fellow Whovians, et al. I hate to interrupt the flow of comments regarding this intriguing article but I have a very quick query,.....well quickish.....for DWTV.
What, pray tell, is the required dress code for the 'General Whoniverse Discussion Page'? Top hat and tails? Smart/casual? Cyber Onesie (has anybody actually produced a Cyber Onesie? If not, why?)? The reason I ask is.....well.....the GWDP seems such a nice place. An arena of free flowing Whovian thought, where anyone can set an agenda, share random thoughts or generally just stretch their firm opiniony legs.
There are occasions were I'd quite like to partake in a bit of wider 'Who' based banter, but alas, like many others, I find myself denied that privilege. So how does one gain access to the GWDP? What's the criteria? Is admission based on the general quality of contribution, degree of participation, or the longevity of membership? I remember a time when permission to speak freely was granted to all and sundry. We all enjoyed a refuge were discussions could continue beyond the confines of any headlining threads and topics. It was nice. It reinforced friendships, created a sense of togetherness, of solidarity.
And then.....it all changed.
After a prolonged and frustrating absence (bloody 'redirects') I returned to discover a world of registrations, applications and passwords. A place where the right to wider discussion applied only to a few.....not the many. Such a pity.
So, without wishing to appear ungrateful for all your efforts in producing and maintaining this site, I'd like to ask.....why? Why can't the 'General Whoniverse Discussion Page' once again be open to all? What has changed? This wonderful place is predominantly populated by an eclectic bunch of well meaning, good natured, intelligent individuals (with any minor altercations thankfully rare and short lived). In general, we're all nice people, so its a shame that a two tier commenting policy segregates one group from another.
Thanks for listening.....and please feel free to totally ignore.
And once again Ivy, apologies for interrupting the comments section of your thoughtful, intelligent article.
@ilyootha " - so to say that a different incarnation of him is just a random guy that goes sauntering about is rather wrong and disrespecting towards other eras and Doctors"
Interesting point of view.....but d'yer know who's always been somewhat disrespectful towards other eras and Doctors?..... the Doctor himself.
The current incarnation of our favourite Timelord, - whoever that may be - always considers himself the most relevant, the most important, the most necessary, because.....guess what.....he's the current incarnation......the torch bearer, the carrier of the flame, the guy in the hot seat.
The Doctor is, if anything, a creature of ego, - always has been, always will be, - and its usually de rigueur for one persona to make snide, derogatory, self aggrandising remarks about his other selves - "Fancy pants" / "Scarecrow." / "Yes, mine (replacement) was pretty unpromising too" / "Not that little fellow in the checked trousers and the black frock coat." / "What, all teeth and curls" / "It had a sort of feckless charm, which simply wasn't me". That last example, in particular, is a clear indication that, from the Doctor's perspective, each incarnation is indeed a distinct individual with a very particular take on what makes the Doctor.....the Doctor. This explains the less than palpable air of respect and accommodation that permeates whenever multiple Doctors share the same time-zone.
Ironically though, the one incarnation who seemed genuinely pleased to meet one of his other selves was Ten, when he bumped into Five.
5 months, 2 weeks ago on The End of Time: Why it Needs More Love
Mr Gledhill-Carr, for your diligence, perception and services to promoting all that's good and worthy about 'The End Of Time', I give to you the gift of bodily saliva * hoc-phfft *
"The old man must die, and the new man will discover to his inexpressible joy that he has never existed.".....I love that quote, it sums regeneration to me. Well.....the spiritual aspect of the process that is. As you all know it comes from 'Planet of the Spiders', the story that first coined the phrase 'regeneration'. And there it is, equating the process to a form of death.
Which it clearly is.
The drive, the likes, dislikes, foibles, mannerisms, quirks, tastes, the sheer individual spirit of each incarnation effectively dies. It passes. It goes. The fact that the essence and the collected memories of the man continue and remain, is an added bonus. Its a beautiful, and rather handy, reinvention. But the fact that all that we loved about any given persona ceases to be cannot be denied, otherwise regeneration loses all its dramatic weight and emotional power. It simply becomes nowt but a rudimentary change of personal.....and its so much more than that. Because, as viewers, we don't just watch the process,.....we feel it. And sometimes it hurts, because, in a safe televisual way, we mourn. We mourn the loss of a very dear friend.
Is regeneration a form of death?.....of course it is. And the beautiful thing about 'The End Of Time' is, we felt and leant about it from the Doctor's point of view.
And why the apparent loss of composure and self indulgent last line.....well, the Tenth Doctor, like his Second incarnation before him,.....was alone. He had no companion to reassure, so ergo, no brave quip or stoic adieu.
For me, its a great story, and a very powerful and moving farewell.
Brothers; sisters; cousins; overly familiar friends of someone we once met in the pub.....
Our individual tastes may define us, preferences may sometimes divide us, and dissent may occasionally rile us, but we should all take comfort in the fact that there is one thing, one solitary undisputed thing, that unites us.
Yes, it unites us.
It unites Commenters of every race, colour, creed, and shoesize. And that my brother, sisters, etc is.....our hated. Yes, our hatred. Our absolute, unconditional, biscuit crunching hated of something that blights all our commenting lives. Hatred of two simple words.....two words that strike anguish and frustration into the hearts of all.....
Now.....who needs a hug.
5 months, 3 weeks ago on Dear Whovians…
* sung to the tune of.....oh you'll know *
"I love RTD,
And Steve Moffat too.
Two lovely guys,
Brought us 'Doctor Who'.
And I think to myself.....what a wonderful world.
I love sweet Series One,
Two Five and Four.
But sweet Series Three,
I love that bit more.
Companions and the TARDIS,
Bigger on the inside.
The enemies and creatures,
Who make us run and hide.
Countless fans sharing views,
Saying 'How do you do?'
They're really saying,
'We love 'Who'.
Let the moaners moan,
And whiners whine.
'Cause our upbeat voices,
Win every time.
Ye-es, I think to myself.....what a wonderful world."
@Malohkeh O must we.....again. Okay, its a given, the majority of folk on this site hate, and I mean hate, 'Love and Monsters'. They despise, loathe and abhor it. Whenever a spleen needs venting, it's usually directed at poor, misunderstood, 'Love and Monsters'. And that's fine, it's a free cosmos 'n all.
But I'm one of the few misguided individuals who happen to admire this story. I accept it for what it is, and I wholeheartedly celebrate its desire to be distinctive, different and unique. I realise that it's unconventional demeanour unsettles and even offends, but, personally, I tend to overlook these more outlandish qualities, because I know, deep down, this story has real heart. And I love it for that.
Now I know I'll never change any minds, soften any views or convert any doubters, because.....a) Opinions on this one are too entrenched;.....and b) I'm nowhere near that persuasive. All I can ask of you or anyone else, is too accept that, yes, there are people out there who consider 21 stories weaker than 'Love and Monsters', and yes, our opinions and tastes are as valid - and perhaps even as considered - as that of the next man, woman.....Whovian.
By the way, this is by no means directed solely at you. You were just unlucky enough to walk into the path of my inconsequential drivel.
5 months, 3 weeks ago on The Top Stories & Doctors (According to DWM 2014)
For all you acolytes of Akhaten, bemoaning the fact that your beloved story finds itself sharing a duvet with 'TImelash', worry not. This poll is but a snapshot.....a moment in time......the thoughts of a few crystallised in crisp percentage form. And thoughts and opinions, like time itself, exist in a state of flux .....ever changing, moving and reassessing. They are as inconstant as the weather, and often as difficult to predict. So, who knows where 'Rings' may find itself languishing in 5 or 10 years time. Judging by the outpouring of shock, amazement, anger, befuddlement, arousal, and more befuddlement on display tonight.....I dare say its fortunes will no doubt improve.
Goodnight, and may your god go with you.
Ah my beloved 'Love and Monsters'.....still nimbly avoiding a place in the bottom ten, like an agile little Raston Warrior Episode.
Mr Tardy, Mr Flowy, Mr MrRazza,.....can I just say that I've thoroughly enjoyed tonight's proceedings. Its been a while since I laughed this much on this site,.....so thank you.
You're all delightful chaps.
5 months, 3 weeks ago on Analysing The Top Doctor Who Stories (DWM 1998)
@TardisBoy No, don't do a daily motion in the DVD store. I did once and they threw me out.
@TardisBoy Or, as Len would say....."Sev-en!"
Ahem.....I'll get me coat
@TardisBoy I love 'Remembrance'. A very special story, and one that turned me from a mere 'interested viewer' into a fully fledged card carrying fan (you had to back in those days).
'Remembrance' holds a special place in my heart.
Whereas 'Timelash' holds a special place in my arse.
Er.....hello.....couple of quick queries. Firstly, who here has seen 'Timelash'? And secondly, just how sh*te did you think it was?
I'm sorry, I realise every story is defined by the talent/budget/technical limitations/creative ethos of its time - and therefore can't necessarily be judged exclusively by modern day televisual standards - but, blimey, 'Timelash' is just astronomically, awful, bad and awful. And bad.
Dull meandering plot. Boring uninvolving alien culture. Tired clichéd characters. Ham fisted direction. Bad acting (yes Herbert I mean you). Tinsel. Superfluous "I've been here before" sub-plot. And the absolute worst ever use of "I'll explain later" as a means of conveniently side stepping a sodding great "How the f*ck did he get out of that?" moment. 'Timelash' is, for me, 'Doctor Who' at its worst.
Apart from the make up for the Borad.
That was quite good.
@MrRazza Ah Tony Blackburn.....he'd have been a great Doctor. The age defying clobber; the otherwordly stare; the strange alien life form on his head. "
Yay, it's 'Retro Night' here at DWTV. Coming up later we've got 'Dexy's Midnight Runners' with 'Come On Eileen'. But first here's Davros with 'Billie Jean'.
Ah, its nice to discuss some of the oldies for a change. No RTD vs Moffat. No Tennant vs Smith. No Rose vs Clara....none of that......just pure nostalgia.....and more regular cliffhangers.