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@Capaldi's Eyebrows @Huknar @Gustaff @NumberNine @Amy Pond- all grown up @TheElusiveWhovian
I agree that Donna's exit is awful. But not in the same way Rose's was. Even though she lost all what she could be, the fact she didn't remember what she was in the first place is less awful for her as a person.
I feel for the person that exists at the time, not what that person used to be. I just think not having any memory of a better life is the same as not having that better life at all. Besides, Donna got married and "won" the lottery. I think I would very much prefer to have been Donna than to have been Rose if I was in their respective situations. (Of their first exits. I am not counting the happier ending Rose got.) It is just so much easier to deal with things if you don't have any memory of the upset in the first place.
They are both terrible. But I think Rose had it worse at the end of Doomsday.
1 day, 1 hour ago on Moffat on Paternoster Return, Clara’s Original Exit
@Gustaff @Huknar @NumberNine @Amy Pond- all grown up @TheElusiveWhovian No. I don't think so. It just adds to it. It completes it. I went through two years of being sad about it, and then she gets some solace in the end. I don't see that is ruining the experience as I still had the experience first time. That is what counts for me. Anything else is just extra which I enjoy on its own merits, not on devaluing older ideas.
Besides, it's still not the perfect ending. She's still in a parallel world, with a Doctor who is frightfully mortal and no means of travelling the universe (unless you consider that TARDIS coral hand-over cannon.)
For me, shows are not really about the overall experience, but the moments of experience at the time. That is what really counts.
@Gustaff @Huknar @NumberNine @Amy Pond- all grown up @TheElusiveWhovian Well no one knew that at the time that would happen...
@Gustaff @NumberNine @Amy Pond- all grown up @TheElusiveWhovian Rose is the only companion exit to make me cry. I just thought it was too awful to be trapped off in another universe completely, unable to return to adventures with the Doctor, having known that better, more exciting life. Imagine that happening to you. I think it is just so depressing.
Donna however had blissful ignorance of her time. She could go on living a normal human life not thinking there is anything more. Yes it's sad, but it is very merciful.
After all, I often wish I could forget experiences (more so to re-experience them again as new).
@supermoff Phew. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought so.
1 day, 2 hours ago on Moffat on Paternoster Return, Clara’s Original Exit
@RoastNewt @Gustaff @Huknar @Notsosmartguy @supermoff Didn't even think of that.
@Gustaff @Huknar @supermoff Hit by the car instead of Danny? She saves Danny and sacrifices herself? Changing time.
@supermoff I just hope it's cruel and sudden. No time for goodbyes. Just "Ex-ter-min-ate!" and death. Because then we get to make the daleks formidable, get a new companion, a memorable exit, add a little bit of full circleness to her story and try something new. That's too many birds with too many stones.
Sudden, unexpected deaths are the best. *Glares at a certain, Season 5, Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode.*
@Gustaff @Notsosmartguy @supermoff I know, I thought that was pretty nonsensical actually and kind of spoiled her "look at how clever I am moment."
@Ivegotkidneys @Gustaff Where she said* sorry.
@Ivegotkidneys @Gustaff I remember listening to an audio commentary with Catherine, Russell and David for the Series 4 final, where he says that she would had stayed another year. And Russell was sad because he would have loved to have her for a second year.
No! Not River! I want to see River with Twelve. ;(
@scarvesandcelery @Huknar @Shane Michaels And how do you suppose a human like Clara will have any idea how to pilot a TARDIS?
1 day, 7 hours ago on DWM #484: What Next for the 12th Doctor?
@IrishPenmanship @Edoe Just the way that entire scene played out and tipped off with that excellently delivered line was marvellous.
1 day, 18 hours ago on DWM #484: What Next for the 12th Doctor?
@Shane Michaels I don't know, I've wanted that for a long time. Even before I thought it was thematically a good idea, back when I hated her. Really, really hated her.
Well that wasn't confusing at all!
So you gave him Matt Smith scripts for a year, (which I do not agree on.) and now you are writing him "funny" scripts? Weren't Matt Smith scripts "funny", in general?
I really don't know what you are talking about Moffat, but I sure hope you are not going to turn him into a buffoon. Please keep the excellent, intelligent humour, I beg of you.
2 days, 1 hour ago on DWM #484: What Next for the 12th Doctor?
I just noticed, Missy doesn't have her makeup on. Aww, don't tell me they are getting rid of it? I loved how she looked with it all. :(
1 week, 1 day ago on Series 9 Filming in Spain
I really shouldn't be looking at this. I really, really shouldn't. But I just can't resist knowing nothing about the series! And it's such a long, long time away yet...
This series is going to be...spectacular!
@Amy Pond- defender of Series 7 Exterminate!
1 week, 3 days ago on Rank the Revival: 2012 Part 1
@Gustaff It would have been so beautiful if the egg hatched the star whale that comes back to save them later.
1 week, 3 days ago on Doctor Who’s Impossible Choices and the Trolley Problem
@Malohkeh will sell soul for Big Finish CDs It really is what makes the show the show. Any other man would have to make a choice. But the Doctor. He's the Doctor, and he finds those wonderful loop holes. Truly a hero. He has shaped my world view entirely.
@ilyootha With all due respect, if I see another complaint about awful science in Doctor Who, someone is going to die a horrible, horrible death. (Probably me.)
This is one of the aspects I love the most about the show. This moral dilemma is always fantastic to observe in Doctor Who, and I just love it, completely and utterly love it when that magical third option comes along. That is what makes the show Doctor Who.
(And it makes those episodes that don't have the third option immeasurably powerful. Such as The Fires of Pompeii.)
@supermoff @Huknar I sure hope that's all you are imagining. :)
1 week, 6 days ago on Master Plan? The Mysteries of Missy
@supermoff @Huknar That's even better. Damn. Why are you so good?
@supermoff I feel too stupid to have missed such an obvious, sense-making idea.
Imagine her rubbing that into Clara's face!
Missy: "Oh my dear Clara, anyone could have come back from there. It was just a case of pressing this button and poof! Atoms get smashed together into a wonderful new body."
*Missy twirls around in her new body to show off*
Missy: "Though frankly I really should have installed that quadra-bit operating system before I stole it from Gallifrey because the floating point math is shamefully off, I think my nose is a fraction larger and-"
That was the last time anyone heard from Missy...
@Mark McCullough @supermoff I just read every one of those. Thank you for acting as such beautiful inspiration. I love how you even included little things like the Cult of Skaro escaping the war to start the events of Doomsday. I get all spine-tingly when timey stuff happens like that. (Seeing a precursor to an event we've already seen in Doctor Who in the past. Love it!)
@Mark McCullough @supermoff You weren't kidding. O.O
@supermoff @Huknar @Notsosmartguy @Mark McCullough I know. But there are some killjoys around here that have said it, because they thought an idea ridiculous. Oh how clueless they were. ;)
@Notsosmartguy @Mark McCullough @supermoff Pfft. And some people complain we shouldn't (as fans) write Doctor Who. This is class A proof against such stupidity!
McCullough for show-runner!
@supermoff @Mark McCullough I don't know if we can handle Dalton, Bones and Capaldi in one scene. I think the universe will explode from gravitas.
@Mark McCullough @supermoff If they recast Rassilon I will cry. And I will scream. And I will cry some more. A lot. Don't you dare Moffat.
@TakeTheType40 Face-off trick? I've seen those seasons but I don't know quite what you mean.
2 weeks ago on Missy Back in Two-Part Series 9 Opener
@TardisBoy! Or the secretary. That could be hilarious.
@PaddyB Oh lord no. I know it's not a gameshow, but I wonder if the daleks had a twisted version of Supernanny in Bad Wolf. That doesn't bare thinking about. Mind you I'd take Angie there and leave her.
2 weeks, 1 day ago on Rank the Revival: 2010 Part 3
@PaddyB He got put in the naughty box for his actions. :(
@Alleigh member of P.O.N.D.S Loved Kill the Moon. Hated Listen with every fibre of my being.
@Aspiring Lion That's not confirmed. But I think an interesting possibility given the casting.
2 weeks, 1 day ago on Missy Back in Two-Part Series 9 Opener
@TheNightmareChild is... Peeves Well said! I thought I was the only one. Only, I also find the elements with Vincent just more than a bit boring to experience. That might sound harsh. It is, but I just didn't think it made for a good episode of Doctor Who.
This is one of two episodes I skip on watching now. I try not to skip any, but when I'm so bored I'd rather be something else, which rarely happens with a show I don't have much of a choice.
(I'd like to add that I'm not heartless. Far from it. I LOVE the emotional parts of Doctor Who. I'm always nearly brought to tears over silly things in episodes. But this did nothing for me.)
@91 Queen of Evil Os...bad?
You are good. You are exceptionally good.
@Esterath Why is everyone in such good form today!? You have no idea how much I want that to happen now. My thought is they might find Missy imprisoned. Her hair gone grey and messy and she'd gone totally insane. (Had that idea during Dark Water.)
Missy would totally be the music teacher.
@The Count @Huknar @The Lazy Cat Returns! Yes!
@The Count @The Lazy Cat Returns! I'd like you to know that if I could like this a hundred times easily, I would.
@SirTrey I actually got exterminated for it.
@The Lazy Cat Returns!
Clara: "I'm going to slap you so hard you'll regenerate!"
@TheCyberDoctor Good. I'm not the only one that stuck in my head at my excitement for the announcement.
*Goes and listens to my Twelfth Doctor Theme recreation and gets dangerously overexcited*
@Antee991166 @Huknar @russell t dalek The best story, for me, rather controversially I might add is Zagreus so far. I loved every overpadded moment of it.
But indeed, it just does not compare.
@EvilZygonRabbit Judging by the image for her announcement I could imagine the trailer now. Blackness. Unknown voice - "Lights." Missy's form lights up. "Camera!" Close up on her lips. "Action!" slow pullback as she says "Hello!" in her Missy-stylized way like she has before, before the trailer roars into action and chaos and mayhem.