Amy the Consulting Key Ring
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@JailBanksters I feel like that's an exaggeration.
9 hours, 7 minutes ago on Best of Matt Smith: The Day of the Doctor
@Oncoming_Badger "because Moffat hated that they'd grown old"
- That isn't why he didn't include them, and if it were, he probably wouldn't have included Tom Baker either.
11 hours, 57 minutes ago on Best of Matt Smith: The Day of the Doctor
@The_War_Braden @Notsosmartguy "And now they're alive again and continue with their plans."
- Assuming that they even still want to. Their whole motivation for carrying out those plans was to survive the Time War, which the Doctor has now allowed them to do without having to destroy the rest of the universe.
13 hours, 49 minutes ago on Best of Matt Smith: The Day of the Doctor
@ilyootha @Jardi101 @ivegotkidneys Plus the dialogue is different.
14 hours, 4 minutes ago on Best of Matt Smith: The Day of the Doctor
@Galactic Yo Yo @dschram They're essentially photographs with a timey-wimey oil painting filter. :P But still a pretty cool concept in my opinion.
14 hours, 13 minutes ago on Best of Matt Smith: The Day of the Doctor
@Huknar "For example, why did all the past Doctors need to come and save the day, how did they even know?"
- The Doctors were all needed in order to crunch the numbers of the millennia-long calculations for the preservation of Gallifrey. Granted, they could have shown some form of interaction, but its just as easy to assume that the Moment helped send War, Ten, and Eleven back to tell their younger selves.
14 hours, 17 minutes ago on Best of Matt Smith: The Day of the Doctor
@geronimon They used Rose because Moffat likes Rose. I don't, but fair enough I guess. Plus, Rose is more immediately recognizable to today's main audience.
14 hours, 22 minutes ago on Best of Matt Smith: The Day of the Doctor
@RhonDOH @VictorWong1 Huh. That's actually not too different from the way that I imagined it. I tend to think that the TARDIS generates a manifestation of the Time Lord with whom it is "bonded" via the Rassilon Imprimatur's timeline upon their death (since the Time Lord and the TARDIS are linked, the TARDIS could probably track and consolidate their temporal "scar tissue," since it would be the TARDIS' scar tissue as well due to it being the vehicle used to tear into the fabric of time in the first place), so in a way, it would be due to the Time Lord's connection with their TARDIS. :)
1 day, 5 hours ago on Best of Matt Smith: The Name of the Doctor
@Calufrax11 "It revealed nothing that we hadn't been aware of since 2005 in terms of his onvolvement in the Time War, and it's something he wasn't exactly shy about revealing."
- He revealed that he ended the Time War. But he never spoke about the version of him that did it, because that version of him was, in his mind, unspeakable. Even "The Day of the Doctor" points out the difference. Early on, the Doctor says that War is the him that he "doesn't talk about." But later on, Clara tells War that the Doctor is "always talking about the day he ended the war." That he ended the war isn't a secret and isn't supposed to be. The secret is that he was once a man who willingly disavowed his principles and went to such lengths as the War Doctor. Instead of doing what any "Doctor" should and would do, he didn't look for another way. He murdered billions of innocents. History isn't what the Doctor is hiding and running away from. It's more existential than that. You say "He hd a different face. So what?", but it's more than that. It's not just a different face. It's a whole different mindset, outlook, and behavior. The Doctor's secret is that for a time in his life, he wasn't the Doctor. He was somebody who actively defined himself as being a warrior. The Doctor doesn't do that. The Doctor finds a way. He doesn't revel in violence and war and murder. If, say, Jeff were go out and murder a few people without remorse and then realized what he had done, he might say something like "I killed them... how could I kill them?" It's a crisis of self-definition. He's not denying the fact that he killed them, but he is questioning how *he*, as he understands himself, could ever do something like that. It is purely and simply against who he sees himself to be.
1 day, 8 hours ago on Best of Matt Smith: The Name of the Doctor
@ThePotatoOne Clara's echoes helped the Doctor in ways, be they direct or indirect, that undid the Great Intelligence's alterations. She entered the timestream with one objective: Save the Doctor. So the time winds distributed her across the Doctor's lifetime and inserted her in such ways that would overwrite the GI's sabotage (i.e. putting her in a position to where she could eventually tell him which TARDIS to take, to where she would be dying in a way that stopped the GI in Victorian London, to where she would sacrifice herself at the Dalek Asylum, and so on).
As for them leaving the timestream, they did so just as they came in: on foot. It is a widely-held misconception that the Doctor exiting the timestream was ever an issue, which it wasn't. Clara wouldn't have been able to do it on her own, which is why the Doctor needed to enter it in order to extract her. But his presence within the timestream would have generated massive paradoxes if he had taken too long to locate her. The danger was not in the Doctor being able to exit the timestream, but rather, in him being able to find and rescue Clara before his presence in the timestream caused it to cave in.
@Adric the Genius @Deus_Ex_Machina That was explicitly brought up in "The Time of the Doctor".
DOCTOR: This is where I end up. This face, this version of me. We saw this planet in the future, remember? All those graves, one of them mine.
CLARA: Change the future.
DOCTOR: I can't.
DOCTOR: Yes. We saw the future, Clara. This is how it ends.
CLARA: Change it.
CLARA: Like Tasha said, change the future.
DOCTOR: I could have once, when there were Time Lords. Not any more.
Thereby establishing that the Time Lords have the capacity to maintain paradoxes, as has been said and shown in previous episodes.
1 day, 13 hours ago on Best of Matt Smith: The Name of the Doctor
@HopeMacLeod I'm getting the "pending" mark on some comments, and seem to have lost the ability to edit.
1 day, 14 hours ago on Best of Matt Smith: The Name of the Doctor
@Galax @jellybabyeater Yeah that's why I don't think Moffat is really the problem in these situations.
@The MasterDoctor The other echoes of Clara most likely did not know him either and merely came to know him by being around him just like Oswin and Victorian Clara. We just didn't see that because there were only 45 minutes to spend.
@The MasterDoctor "Now THAT... would have been an incredible cliff-hanger ending! Imagine what the speculation would have been regarding the upcoming 50th anniversary episode, if this had been what had happened."
- Probably "Oh, so they're doing the Time War. I mean, why else would they bring back McGann and what other horrible thing could he have done?" The War Doctor was far superior at generating speculation because no one, be they classic or new fans, had ever seen him.
@Nightmarish "I don't think that they're the Doctor's most important friends or anything"
- I highly doubt that the Doctor ranks his friends in terms of importance.
@Huknar "The Name of the Doctor" has to happen in order for "The Time of the Doctor" to happen. It's been made causally detached (though sustained by the Time Lords), but it has been nowhere near "erased." That's the thing about this show. What actually causally happened is usually irrelevant. The only thing that should matter to the viewers is the Doctor's own personal past, because the show's history itself is liable to change at any time. What the Doctor himself has experienced, however, cannot be altered. That's what we need to be paying attention to.
@SteviePenny What "rules" of the timeline?
@Calufrax11 It's not the act that's the secret. It's the War Doctor himself. Every incarnation has their own personality and their own perceptions and behaviors; the Doctor wants to hide and forget the fact that he was ever a man that was willing to murder 2.46 billion innocent children to stop a war.
@DW_girl @Rani Nose @BenJediRabbit Because they don't really want another Time War either, or to be outright annihilated by a potential "half a universe" waiting in orbit to kill them.
1 day, 19 hours ago on The Actual Plot Holes in Doctor Who