I have become Oodkind.
Funny, I didn't even think of it as a kiss until I read this article. I saw it as Vastra protecting her partner by giving her oxygen she knew Jenny needed. I didn't see it as a romantic moment in that way at all. If that is what Moffat was going for, he should have done a "last kiss before being killed" moment like he did with Amy and Rory.
And also, has there really been fuss about this? I haven't seen any homophobic remarks around. We've already tolerated Vastra and Jenny for nearly two years. The only complaint I've seen regarding it is that the relationship seemed too forced and unnatural.
9 hours, 38 minutes ago on Addressing the Deep Breath Kiss
@The Finn @Oodkind @TheOncomingHurricane @The Administrator
Some straight people are single their whole life. They were attracted to somebody along the way, inevitably, but they made the choice not to marry. Because ultimately it is a person's choice whether to get in a relationship or not.
Straight or gay, your lifestyle is your choice. As I said, it is their choice to marry someone of the opposite sex, not the choice of anyone else, be peers or the government.
9 hours, 43 minutes ago on Addressing the Deep Breath Kiss
1) Sexual orientation is not a choice, but committing homosexual acts is. Just like a teen may be attracted to someone, but that does not mean he should get her pregnant. It may not be Jenny's choice to love a female lizard, but it is her choice to marry Vastra. Her choice, not mine, her family's, or the governments. What I was trying to say is that it was her personal business, not anyone else's. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough.
2) If you read above, I said I meant to say under 10%. I know it is probably above 1%, but the 0 key didn't go down all the way, apparently, and with lack of editing, I couldn't correct it. As for the actual numbers, it is extremely difficult to get an exact estimate. Studies have been done, ranging from under 2% to 10%. It usually isn't higher than that.
3) I agree, it was powerful symbolism, but the constant mentions of being gay made the point seem forced. I can't think of a single scene with Vastra without a remark about their sexuality. Instead of being characters who happen to be gay, they were gay characters. Their sexuality was constantly brought to mind, which made it seem like Moffat was kissing up to the LGBT+ rather than representing them.
4) I'm not suggesting that gay people write better relationships. What I was saying was that it Gatiss seemed to write a more believable gay couple, perhaps because of his experience with the subject. On the other hand, Moffat made it seem more stereotypical and overblown.
9 hours, 54 minutes ago on Addressing the Deep Breath Kiss
@TheOncomingHurricane @The Administrator @Oodkind *sigh* The problem with articles on this subject is no matter what, people get offended. There was nothing hateful about my comment. I did not say anything to condemn homosexuals. In fact, I said the opposite. I said it is your choice to live that lifestyle, and I don't care whether people are straight or gay. And yet you find offense in that statement and flag the comment?
As for being a choice, it is commonly accepted that people are attracted to the same sex naturally. However, it is a choice whether or not to act on that feeling and live out that lifestyle. I'm not saying people shouldn't live with a person they love, I am saying that it is their choice to marry someone of the opposite sex, not the choice of anyone else, be peers or the government. Just as it is your choice to marry any particular person.
10 hours, 5 minutes ago on Addressing the Deep Breath Kiss
@TheOncomingHurricane @Oodkind Sorry, typo. I meant 10%. My 0 key is broken and doesn't always work...
14 hours, 52 minutes ago on Addressing the Deep Breath Kiss
@Seaborn W Deadman How do they make it seem homophobic? I think it represents the real world quite well. The gay population by percentage is actually quite small, contrary to popular belief. While it's hard to make an estimate, it's usually shown to be below 5%. I don't see why we need to show that more people are gay on TV.
14 hours, 53 minutes ago on Addressing the Deep Breath Kiss
I really don't care whether or not characters are homosexual. I think Vastra and Jenny's relationship is fine to have in a show. I don't mind people seeing a gay couple-- it is a choice, and represents a portion of the population, albeit less than 1%.
However, I felt like the element of their relationship was a bit too stressed. If you want to make it seem normal, make them act as partners. But instead, we got endless references to the fact that they were homosexual, constant flirting, and anti-male remarks. This isn't showing a real, homosexual relationship and normalizing such behavior. The other episodes with the Gang better represented it. I think The Crimson Horror portrayed them the best, perhaps because Gatiss is gay himself.
15 hours, 1 minute ago on Addressing the Deep Breath Kiss
I didn't mind that Clara had a hard time letting go of Eleven. He was her Doctor. She knew that he would change eventually, she just didn't know that it would happen so soon. Maybe she even thought that all the rest of the Doctors she saw aged to be grey and started young. I forgive her for that. However, what I thought seemed strange, was her treatment of Twelve. She was about to flat out leave him when Eleven called, and she hadn't even been around him after he had fully recovered from regeneration. She was nice to the War doctor, someone about to commit genocide, but when 12 was solving a murder mystery, a good act, she was angry? It seemed a bit odd.
She came off as a jerk. First was the lies about not being interested in flirting. May I point out what she said in TotD, "I'm an English teacher from planet Earth, and I've run off with
a man from space because I really fancy..." And all the kissing in the Crimson Horror. Saying she wasn't flirting is an obvious lie. Then was her treatment of The Doctor when she barely knew him. I know, he abandoned her to the droids, but he was there the whole time. She should have forgiven him when she realized that he was still there to save her. I'm glad they gave her more personality, however, even if it is negative traits.
17 hours, 55 minutes ago on Deep Breath Review
I love these articles. Yeah, I found the T-rex to be a bit irritating. I suppose you could say that the size was due to exposure to the Time Vortex, but that wouldn't explain the incorrect way she stood...
As for the environment, the fact is we don't really know what effect the atmosphere would have on the dinosaur. However, the average temperature was above modern levels, and it was specifically mentioned as a cold day in London. I would guess that the cold temperature would have had a larger effect on the cold-blooded dinosaur than was shown.
18 hours, 29 minutes ago on Sciencey Wiencey: Deep Breath
We don't know. Don't worry, though, because that's not the question.
The question is, would the Man have jumped
of the Doctor hadn't talked him into doing so?
I don't think he would have. Whether he pushed him or not, I think the
responsible for the death. We know the Doctor has talked people into
killing themselves, particularly in the Time War, so this isn't anything
new. Ten considered it to be at least comparable with murder.
1 day, 19 hours ago on Whodunnit? The Fate of the Half-Face Man
@SonicTheHedgehogRules "I think, therefore I am."
He may not be human, but over millions of years, he became sentient. His termination is, at least to me, the end of a life.
I just rewatched the episode, and I think I like it better now. After the first watching, I had doubts, but I think the story grew on me the 2nd time. I now give it a solid 9/10, putting it in 19th place, right below The Pandorica Opens.
After a day to think about the episode and a second watch, I've justified most of the flaws to myself. The pace of the first third seemed better this time, probably because of the lack of anticipation to see Capaldi in action. I think the Paternosters were better than previous episodes. Strax exhibited some sontaran-like behavior, which was good. On first watch, the Jenny/Vastra love relationship seemed a bit too stressed, like Moffat was going out of his way to please the LGBT instead of writing a real relationship, but it seemed less prominent on second watch, probably because I was expecting it. Still not keen on the gang, but I think they have gotten better.
Some scenes seemed worse, however. For instance, the Scottish accent thing seemed to be weirdly prominent. One mention would have been fine, but three scenes contained dialogue about it. It seemed like they were going out of their way to justify it and talk about scottish people. I know Moffat loves a Scottish accent, but it didn't need to be so emphasized.
My biggest problem was with the directing and editing. It was quite choppy in a lot of scenes. The scene transitions were often very awkward. They usually didn't have enough space between them, and the transition in scenery was jarring, rather than once scene flowing into the next. I'm guessing this lies with Ben Wheatley. Hopefully he redeems himself next episode.
2 days, 13 hours ago on Rate & Discuss Deep Breath
@truewhovian9101112 As I pointed out a bunch of flaws, I will explain at least for me. I liked the episode. It was fun, exciting, and the acting was amazing. I'm just pointing out parts I thought could have been improved. For example, I love the Utopia/Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords finale, but I think the ending was a bit of a cop-out. By saying that, I am not hating on the episode, the good still outweighed the bad, but saying it is totally perfect isn't true.
When I, and I think a lot of people also, review an episode, I like to say both the good and bad parts of it. I gave Deep Breath 9/10, and pointed out why it didn't get full marks from me. Yes, it's nitpicky and I'm sorry if it seems negative, but I am just pointing out the things I didn't like. And who knows, we have seen that Moffat listens to fans, so perhaps he will take note of it!
@Pat108 I don't think so. He said "you'll do quite well." Besides, he wouldn't have been able to tell if she was murdered or something. It's a life expectancy, as in how long until your body wears out. That doesn't mean she will necessarily live that long.
I don't think it was Matt's appearance that made the scene. For me, it was Capaldi's reaction to it.
"I'm not on the phone, I'm right here. Standing in front of you."
It's funny, while you know he's the same person, it's not something you really think about. The scene perfectly drew attention to it, making me really think about regeneration a lot more. I think it did wonders for making not only Clara, but the whole audience let go of Matt and embrace Capaldi as the Doctor.
2 days, 17 hours ago on Moffat on THAT Deep Breath Cameo
@mjplus4 It's very similar, at least. That garden was stated as a replication of an emperor's garden on another planet (I don't remember the exact words) so perhaps that planet was the Nethersphere? It could also be the BBC reusing a prop they don't think anyone remembers.
2 days, 17 hours ago on Introducing the “Gatekeeper”: Who is She?
I don't think she's the Rani. The Rani is a scientist who means business. Of course, a new regeneration could mean a new personality, but I don't think she'd become a stalked fangirl of the Doctor. My guess is that she's a new character.
Looks like this will be great. I was afraid it would be too cheesy. As in kids cartoon about exploring human anatomy. But it looks promising!
3 days, 8 hours ago on Next Time: Into The Dalek
@cyberbrayde @MrRazza, General Rogue Timelord Identifier I doubt they will politely explain your impending death, though.
@ar2261 The titles needed more bass in my opinion. A bass drum would fit it perfectly. As it was, it felt a bit too wispy, in my opinion. I also wish they had reverted to the amount of theme they used until Series 7B. The new ending seems a bit awkward every time. I'm sure I'll get used to it, though.
3 days, 12 hours ago on Rate & Discuss Deep Breath
@grabate He played it very well, but I think he has room for improvement. It's normal, though, as with the exception of Eccleston, non of the Doctors were in their best form in their first episode. Both 7 and 10 didn't really become the Doctor we know them for until their second season. I'm reserving judgement of Capaldi for another episode or two until we see him in action.
@The Living Angel I'm thinking she's new. Perhaps the Doctor knows her already, or perhaps she's just a stalker person he hasn't met yet. I'm guessing that quote about "you betrayed me" from Moffat's synopsis of the finale is the Doctor to her, so that would mean he knew her.
@supermoff @Dameon That was actually a rather good line, in my opinion? At least it was a Sontaran thing to say. It was the second time I thought he was somewhat funny. (I liked the comment about River's gender in NotD. It was perfectly timed, if nothing else.)
3 days, 13 hours ago on Rate & Discuss Deep Breath
@YaelMoise @BLEUNGiU It's not 4:17 am! It is DEFINITELY 6:23 pm! I do not respect your time zone!! ATTACK!!!!!! :)
Actually, I'd be rather interested to know why people didn't like the episode. Was it the paternoster gang, the flow of the episode, the suicide/murder scene? I know you haven't liked the "dark" idea in the past... I take it Deep Breath didn't change your mind?
@RobinMeep Moffat liked the intro after seeing it online, and contacted the person who made it. They worked together to create the intro, and the fan who made it is in the credits. Basically, Moffat decided to use a fan version because it's better than anything the team could come up with. There's an article on it a while back.
So what do people think of Clara now? I liked that they developed her more. She seemed more believable, instead of the perfect girl she was. Besides, it gave us reason to hate her-- she's a horrible person!
Also, I guess the teased "sound from the Tenth Doctor's era" was the car locking sound. Ten did it to the TARDIS on the Ood Sphere in The End of Time. Vastra did it to her carriage.
@conallmc2013 1) For the dinosaur, it wasn't around long. As the bloke who got his eyes stolen said, it could have been some conspiracy. Unlike the cyberking who destroyed stuff, the dinosaur didn't seem to have any effect on the city. It could have been a story, but nothing more.
2) Unlike Rose, Clara wasn't The Doctor's soul mate or dependent on him at all. When he changed into a man she couldn't control, she wanted to leave him. And she was attached to Eleven, so that explains why she was all mad.
3) As The Doctor blatantly said to the point of it being ridiculously unneeded, they are a sister ship to the SS Madame de Pomadour. It wasn't the same bunch droids, it was a different one from a different ship. They are a 51st century, time traveling ship, (time agents, perhaps?) that crashed billions of years ago. The crew apparently died, the droids tried to fix the ship, and were left scavenging the world for millions of years.
4) I would guess that the Paternoster Gang took care of that.
5) He regenerates to a completely different person. Nine was probably joking about the north. Perhaps someone he knew had a northern accent, and he adopted it. Eleven saw Amy, and then regenerated into a Scott.
6) Yeah, yeah, but I thought he was a bit more tolerable this time.
Here's my review of the episode:
It started slow. The first third was weak, in my opinion. Part of the problem was the intense focus on the Paternoster Gang, which I have never been fond of. Capaldi's acting was good, it wasn't really enough to keep the episode going. Also, I noticed the directing was a bit choppy, especially scene transitions. The dinosaur I didn't like. I get the parallel they were trying to make between her and the new Doctor, but I don't think it was necessary. Besides, it was anatomically incorrect...
On the Paternoster Gang, I think Strax was a bit more tolerable. He was portrayed as a clueless alien, rather than a bratty toddler, which suited him a bit better. The only part I think he really ruined was the Gang's entrance to fight the droids. "Ahhh, splat." That really ruined an otherwise cool moment. As for the other two, I think they actually got worse. I don't mind the homosexual relationship, but it was so overblown, mentioned in every single scene, that it became a bit tiresome. It reminded me of a teen couple who have to tell everyone they're together. I think, as always, the gang was a low part of the episode.
The enemy, however, was great. The connection to the SS Madame de Pompadour seemed very forced, (he literally needed to say "sister ship of the Madame de Pompadour?" The vague references were quite enough to get the message to us.) but as villains they were excellent. Instead of seeming like a fan service to bring them back, as I think the Angels were, they were given a good backstory and reason to be there. The idea of trying to get to the 'promised land' and having a goal for harvesting parts was excellent.
And finally, The Doctor. What can I say; he was amazing. While there wasn't really one scene in which he really stood out as the doctor, along the lines of TEH's rooftop scene, all his scenes were brilliant. On both the rooftop scene and the scene with the half-faced man, he was on prime performance. I loved the "round things" mention.
Many people are mentioning the music: I agree, it wasn't Gold's best work. The Clara's Theme variations were nice, but there wasn't a brilliant track like The Eleventh Hour had. As for the theme song, it will take some getting used to, but it seems good. Still no middle eighth though. That was a bit of a disappointment.
Conclusion: It was not a perfect episode, it had it's fair share of flaws, but it had no really episode-ruining bad moments. While it started slow, it definitely picked up after the restaurant scene. I think all the weak parts are dismissible in the light of the good parts. I give the episode 9/10.
3 days, 14 hours ago on Rate & Discuss Deep Breath
@Lord Styro the Drashig Sorry, I had wrong information. The 33-foot size is the biggest in the Jurassic period. The Cretaceous had larger predators.
3 days, 17 hours ago on Rate & Discuss Deep Breath
@usmandikkoladan @mayanwolfe That's not available in my country either...
3 days, 18 hours ago on Doctor Who Extra: Deep Breath
@Lord Styro the Drashig Oh, sorry. I looked at the article, and it turns out this was the largest in the Jurassic era. Others were larger in the cretaceous.
3 days, 18 hours ago on Rate & Discuss Deep Breath
@Ivegotkidneys is in a Dalek No, there were no carnivorous dinosaurs that size, ever. The dinosaur was bigger than Big Ben, which is 316 feet. A new dinosaur, just discovered in Portugal, is now considered the biggest terrestrial predictor ever. From Discovery News:
"The dinosaur, named Torvosaurus gurneyi, measured close to 33
feet long and weighed over 2,200 pounds..."
So no, it was incorrect science. I tried to keep it from annoying me, but I'm still a bit bothered... Still not as bad as Moffat's scientifically-incorrect idea of WiFi.
@AshleyMarieStevens According to the BBC America website, it is on at 8/7c. So in the Pacific and Eastern time zones, it is on at 8pm. Central and mountain, 7pm.
4 days, 8 hours ago on Deep Breath Time Confirmed
Matt regenerated on the clocktower. Then he was young, and regenerated again. We were led to believe that he reset himself, but what if the first regeneration created the Valeyard?
4 days, 13 hours ago on Moffat Teases “Major Foe” For Series 8
Thanks, Jenna. Precisely what I have been saying. We've been hearing nonstop about #keepmespoilerfree and not reading scripts, but knowing that Clara leaves at the end of the series would be the biggest spoiler of all. I like the idea of no one knowing who lives or who dies. It gives the episode more excitement.
4 days, 18 hours ago on Coleman on Exit Rumours: “I don’t want to tell you the truth”
By the way, there's one thing with the directing that annoys me EVERY TIME. After Amy hits the Doctor on the head with a baseball bat, we immediately see an ambulance. Every single time, my first thought is that the Doctor is being taken to the hospital with a head injury. Am I the only one?
4 days, 19 hours ago on New Who Openers In Perspective: The Eleventh Hour
This is one of those episodes that is nearly perfect in my eyes. It's ranked 10/10 in my books, at 3rd place. I don't really know the appeal-- it's just so magical, in a good way. As an opener, it was brilliant. It started with a clean slate, and introduced every single plot element flawlessly, perfectly setting up the series.The monster(s) weren't the best ever, but they fit the episode well. Since the focus was The Doctor and his companions, the enemy was there only to make a story, not to be the center of the plot, so I don't mind that it wasn't the strongest villain. As for the characters, it was done beautifully. As the article said, every character was set up beautifully.
Giving this episode an overall 38.5/40. A wonderful episode to start out a new era of Doctor Who.
It's the same as the 4-day trailer... I guess they ran out of exploding TARDIS scenes?
4 days, 19 hours ago on Series 8: 1 Day Teaser
@type41tardis @mczolly I liked how it was used in the Tennant era. Take Midnight, for example. Ten uses it to show qualifications in order to get certain places, but there's nothing like "Hey look, Daleks, I'm not the Doctor, I'm Davros!" to get out of a pinch. That's how it should be used: a tool to keep the story moving. Since Moffat, it's been used mostly to send messages, which I'm not very keen on...
5 days, 11 hours ago on Series 8: 2 Days Teaser
@Timhogan In The Power of Three, Kate Stewart sends him a message on it. We don't actually get to see it well, he just glances at it and says something about how he respects her ability to use it.
Oh, and in A Good Man Goes to War, there is a reference to it.
@HeyProfessor @Oodkind @shyx111 @ Notsosmartguy the dalek of Jersey Probably. Though I can just see the scene:
Doctor: Osgood, it's 1980. Get something to wear.
Osgood comes out of closet wearing *that* coat.
Doctor: No, not that. Please... just... not that.
5 days, 13 hours ago on Capaldi on Coleman Leaving Rumours
@shyx111 @ Notsosmartguy the dalek of Jersey I'd like to see her in the technicolor dreamcoat...
5 days, 18 hours ago on Capaldi on Coleman Leaving Rumours
@ Notsosmartguy the dalek of Jersey @Oodkind @ilyootha is back in home Universe It is, and I'm probably wrong, but I'm just saying that her return as the Clara we will know throughout Series 8 isn't necessarily confirmed by that article.
5 days, 19 hours ago on Capaldi on Coleman Leaving Rumours
@ilyootha is back in home Universe Could be another echo, or Clara earlier in her timeline. Perhaps saying goodbye after her death? It's sort of unlikely, but possible.
"This video is unavailable." Sigh.
Anyway, this is very interesting, but to me it just seems like a red herring to keep people engaged. After all, if we were told when Clara would leave, there wouldn't be any shock to it, or any moments of danger before it.
@Ottoman14 @TomLong2 How about saying Moffat is sexist? Is that needed? He's written plenty of episodes that show he is not. Trouble writing females, maybe, but not sexist. That's an unneeded criticism, because it's totally unfounded.
5 days, 19 hours ago on Moffat on Death: “There are dark times ahead”
@blartfarble That would be interesting. I liked Inferno for that reason: all the characters in the mirror universe die. I suppose The God Complex was a bit like this.
I'm happy that he is admitting that bringing everyone back is a
weakness. It served the plot sometimes, but after a while it just got
tiring and took away the consequences of the story. I personally think
that The Angels Take Manhattan would have been better if the Ponds died
from jumping. I also sort of wanted Clara to die in the timestream,
which I think would have made both the Impossible Girl and G.I. arcs a
lot more effective.
And yes, I laugh at the people who complain "Moffat kills too many people" too. I think it's mostly the overly-emotional teen fangirls. Someone once told me "I hate Moffat; he always kills my favorite characters. I'm still mad about what he did to Rose." So obviously they don't really know what they're talking about! I'm glad Moffat agrees with me.
5 days, 21 hours ago on Moffat on Death: “There are dark times ahead”
Yay, Psychic paper! I've missed it being used more often. It seemed in the Eleventh Doctor's era it was mostly used for receiving messages or comic relief. I'd be glad for it to be used more! I like the new case, too... maybe since they made that, it will be used more often?
5 days, 21 hours ago on Series 8: 2 Days Teaser
@troughton who? It's an average of five different people, so they won't necessarily come out as integers. You and I can't really be exact enough to say it is 9.2/10, but if four people give a 9/10 and one gives a 10/10, the average is 9.2.
6 days, 17 hours ago on New Who Openers In Perspective: Smith & Jones