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@Axe99 well actually you brought it up when you said the est was best at producing in a timely manner
2 years, 5 months ago on Is 2012 the year Japanese gaming fights back?
@Axe99 blah blahblah
breakdown of europe, US, asia spending habits
@Axe99 again we cant accurately compare that
Theres less jrpgs on consoles this gen for a reason and its because consoles are doing miserably in japan
In terms of sales ff does well,pokemon broke records in the UK cost ist a side factor to what I just said
@Axe99 company financials mostly
Nintendo I pay the most attention too.
In terms of software its doing pretty damn well in the states. with multiple platinum hits.
@Axe99 why you brought it up in the first place I dont know.
i call it monotonous @Axe99
i am officially over this topic.
VG chartz numbers are as accurate as throwing a dart at the wall ( quote from industry insider)
Companies will not permit the use of them on there forums because they are essentially fake numbers.
@Axe99 Sorry but I will never look at vg charrtz
All that matters is worldwide. And right now nothing is beating the 3ds.
@Axe99 But in the same vein a company like square enix can hire media visions, a large company to make chaos rings
@Axe99 vg chartz uses a sales algorithm. They dont use any analysted tracked sales.
Ive been warned many times that using vg chartz is bannable because of how fake the numbers are
we were talking about everything.
And only a dev can know the size of a project.
For example a game like chaos rings 2. How do we know it took less work than tactics ogre?
1) Believe me it reflects on them
2) Most japanese devs have put way more projects on handhelds this gen because they are just more popular.
Ex. Lets take atlus japan. They havent done a single rpg on a console this gen. So one might say derr japanese rpgs are dead.
But then you look. And they did radiant historia, stange journie, devil survivor 1,2, nora, etrian oddessy 1,2,3 all on handhelds you see thats wrong
well every time I see vg chartz its either 3ds or ps3
@Axe99 we werent talking better= quantity
we were talking if japan manages release dates as well as the west
and in reality only 1 game from square is getting dev hell
dont use vg chartz, its likr making up a number
And I am saying there are reasons why
Japan devs are releasing very few games on the ps3 compared to handhelds and other platforms.
Japan devs have MADE THE SAME effort to make console games for the western market. Nothings changed really. Look at kingfield
Highest rated game of the gen - mario galaxy 1 and 2
Highest selling overall - wii fit
highest selling on a single system - pokemon black white
More new dev teams - japan
Highest revenue earners - japan - In the 2011 list sega, nintendo, sony, capcom, konami, square all topped the list
Highest hardware sales - nintendo
those are facts.
And I am saying there are circumstances WHY
What systems are most popular in UK right now? The ps3 and the 3ds.
The 3ds is just starting to heat up, its also popular in japan
BUT the ps3 is not. THATS WHY
we were talking pure quantity.
If you dont think cracking 100k is anything than you really dont have a clue about games not named COD.
Right now the 3ds is number 1 in the world. No system sold more in less time than the 3ds/.
1) Never heard of them
2) Its substancially behind japan in both game/hardware sales, and just love of gaming
3) Because european game spending has been going down..........
And more support is being given to US and japan aside from a few exceptions
1) I dont know that company from a whole in the wall.
2) you cant accurately talk about the state of japanese gaming buy looking at 1 small region, which this article tries to generalize
3) Not all titles are released in UK
the article really isnt worth responding too since there points are so far in fiction they cant see straight
I did present evidence.
Japan has really never been as strong as they are right now
square has published/released over 50 titles this gen.
Most companies cant say that. Especially bethesda.
@axe i am done
i see you as the troll you are. You dont really have any clue about japan, and less about whats popular or what is doing well.
Highest rated game of the gen - japan
Highest selling overall - japan
highest selling on a single system - japan
Highest revenue earners - japan
Highest hardware sales - japan
you dont know the game industry. Handhelds are even more popular worldwide than consoles. So not including them is not including 75 percent of the industry
japanese software devs have had more success than any previous gen
square - profit record
namco - profit record
atlus japan - profit record
sony - profit record
nintendo - profit record
sega - profit record
Personally I believe its because the devs are keeping up with tastes rpgs.
"That the development processes in many large Japanese devs aren't particularly efficient. There's been a number of reports out of Japan reporting on this. This makes it harder for them to produce games that are as good or as quickly."
You mean like how bethesda does 1 game every 3 years and square does 3 games at least every year? Come on man, thats a joke. There isnt 1 western company outside of EA that is better in terms of producing. Theres been no reports worth mentioning, that the west also hasnt had
Losing there soul? You mean like EA chasing the japanese dollar with tere japanese only ds titles? I wont even respond to that nonsense
"the downfall of the Final Fantasy series (sure, it's still doing solidly, but the hit that it took because of FFXIII is absolutely unprecedented, and will take a long time to fix). "
you mean like 5 million sales and average scores of 84? Grow up dude. FF has never been as successful or seen as many good games as it has this gen.
ff type zero, blew it out of the water and that was 2 months ago
I have the real view.
The ps3 is the second to last selling system this gen. Failure? I think so
The 3ds had the top system sales worldwide in 2011. More platinum titles than the ds had, ore titles that passed 100k. Thats how
rocket slime 3, rexx, layton 5 all passed 100k like other games did.
If software sales is all that mattered wii fit would be the best game of the gen
"The simple fact is that, compared with their performance last gen, Japanese devs have not had the same level of success on home consoles, unless you try and artificially restrict the argument to the gaming platforms that have the lowest software sales!"
The top 7 of 10 best selling games this gen belong to japan.
So are you going to go there?
Please make the arguement that sales=quality
consoles are irrelevant in japan