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@TomDundie @GiveGartneraCup Tom, what are you referring to?  I used countless facts/stats when I talked about my problem with the Staal contract and all I heard back was "staal is good based because he is good"  Calling me selfish and annoying isn't really constructive to what I'm trying to say.  My only point above was that it was being reported, in the twitter universe, that Zucc was meeting with agents and 'People think" it could mean he's the next on the list for Sather (again, from the twitter world, not my words).  A quick calculation of the budget shows they can fit him in for a good price IF they let go of Hags.  So Hags, might be the one to go.


Now as for G, do you want me to show you countless stats why he's a horrible Dman?  Do you have any to support your claim that he's actually good?  Other than he plays a lot.

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@_Jack @GiveGartneraCup I gotcha... Personally, I can't stand the other angles.  The game moves too fast for other closer shots to keep up with it.  But, I'm used to the wide, lateral angle and I understand the game, so I understand how trying different angles, formats, might help bring in new fans.  Who knows, if they can figure out how not to be three steps behind the play on some of the other shots, it might be worth it.

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@_Jack Careful... thinking the game needs a better way of being broadcast is the same thinking that brought us the Fox glowing puck in the 90s... slippery slope

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@_Jack @GiveGartneraCup Looks like my links are a day late.  I can't find the article I was reading now but it calculated the cap and next years contract projections and estimated they could get a deal done with Zucc if they let go of Hags.  All the speculation in these articles still makes me believe that might be possible.  I could see both Car. and Tor interested in Hags.  Toronto to increase their team speed and Car because they are so deep down the middle.

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Lots of news about Zucc meeting with his agents.  People think he's the next on Sather's list...  Think Hags will be the odd man out due to the Staal contract.

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@Gorangers0525 Wait a couple years, at the rate they are advancing, they'll have a 4k 120fps version out in no time

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@gravey94 @Barry Beck Guys, Mcllrath is a righty shot.  He's not competing with John Moore and Hunwick... he's competing with Klein, Boyle, and Girardi.  Who do you slot him in over those three?  And yes, the righty shot thing is that important to coaches like AV, Babcock, etc.

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@JoeyKocur @GiveGartneraCup @IcyCup @Gorangers0525 It was just a lot cleaner.  And also limited the numbers on the page.... It also gave you the est. cap for the next season and how much cap space currently available...

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@IcyCup @Gorangers0525 Jesus... that site is a mess.  I miss capgeek

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@MikeBlue I am not ecstatic about the Hank contract either.  But, if you really think about it rationally... the goalie is the only one who plays the full 60 minutes.  At most, good offesnive players are on the ice 20-22 minutes a game.  If you take that into account, Hank is a steal compared to the Toews and Kane contracts... or Malkin, or Crosby, or Ovi for that mater.  It gets a little more complicated when you take into account Dmen because there are only three lines and they tend to log more minutes.  Of course, all this is based on playoffs, where only the starters are in and the backups are on the bench.

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@J_CKfor30 only two more years until they can trade G... thank god

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@Gorangers0525 Their current salary is 6.5 million each.  That's 13 million out of a 69 million salary cap.  Next year they will be 21 million out of 71 million.... Thats more than a 10% increase.


Which, considering they were taking up 19% of the cap and then went up to 30% of the cap, thats a 50% bump relative to their take.

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@MikeBlue @J_CKfor30 I don't think they are going anywhere, but I do think the Hawks have seriously hurt their chances of winning a cup other than the next year or two...  There is no way those two playyers will be better the next 8 years than they have been the past 5... yet they are paying them over 50% more money.

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@Billfrom Brookhaven @GiveGartneraCup @rangermom @G @KevinMccarthy Hahaha... thanks... glad you like it.... crazy thing with the Hurricanes is, if they land a number 1 or 2 pick, they could have E. Staal, J. Staal and McDavid or Eichel down the middle next year.  I'm sure they are thinking about that and going, how can we beef up our team around those three (if it happens)?  They could literally go from oblivion to a definite playoff spot if not more if they make some smart moves here.

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@TomDundie @GiveGartneraCup @G @KevinMccarthy Agree to disagree then... I don't think he's worth the 1.5 a year.  In fact, I don't think he's worth a bag of pucks.  But, if they really need a "Sgt at Arms" I'm sure they can find one via trade at a cheaper cap hit since those players are an unwanted commodity these days.

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@Billfrom Brookhaven @GiveGartneraCup @rangermom @G @KevinMccarthy E. Staal has only missed 9 games in the last 5 seasons.  J. Staal, other than this year, has been healthy the previous two.... I don't think it really matters... they are committed to those two at this point and I doubt they can work out a deal with their cap hits and desire to play with one another.

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@rangermom @GiveGartneraCup @G @KevinMccarthy Not sure... haven't heard anything.  He's still relatively young so who knows how much Carolina values him... with E. Staal, J. Staal and potentially the 1st or 2nd pick, they could be looking to move a center for some speed on the wing and depth at D (even though J. Staal is playing on the wing right now).  Nash is a great face-off man, strong possession player, and a right handed shot.  Wonder what it would take to get it done and finally give us some much needed depth at C (cause I love hayes, but don't think he's ready to play the position full time).

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@rangermom @G @KevinMccarthy Has anyone heard if Riley Nash is on the trade block?

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@Gorangers0525 Adam is at blueshirt banter and just ranked the prospects again (a follow up to the one he did for nyrangersblog before the season).  Pretty good stuff... 


http://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2015/1/21/7863511/january-2015-new-york-rangers-prospect-rankings-24-13

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@G @KevinMccarthy I think that is the plan.  Also think Talbot only signed a one year deal because he won't resign behind Hank after that.  Talbot for Hall anyone?  hahahaha

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@DP_Snotty @J_CKfor30 Sorry to hear you lost your pops so early DP.  My Dad lost his at 13 and still can't talk about it to this day.  We really do forget sometimes that these athletes are not thoroughbred horses but people with lives outside of the rink.  Just look at Marty last year.... the best, most heart-wrenching story of that hockey season by far... and D. Moore the year before?  Jesus.  Only wish they could have won a cup to give those two something to celebrate after such a rough stretch personally.  Oh, well, maybe this year!

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@J_CKfor30 Great article... thanks for sharing.

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@G @KevinMccarthy Santorelli is one of the possession players on an AWFUL possession team.  Can play wing and center AND is a right handed shot.... I think he's def worth taking a look at.  Knowing Tor's love for "grit" maybe they'll take Glass off our hands.... hey, you never know right?

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@MikeBlue I keep hearing they are after a bottom-6 center who can win faceoffs and also play the wing.  


Though, before the Staal deal, they were looking at Dmen too.

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@J_CKfor30 @Barry Beck Don't forget AV likes balance too.  One of the reasons Miller is on the "fourth" line and not the third is that he's a lefty and fast is a righty.  

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@DP_Snotty @GiveGartneraCup OH!  AND THEY HAVE TO PLAY THE HAWKS IN CHITOWN TOMORROW... Happy MLK DAY (week?)

3 days, 23 hours ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2015-articles/gameday-thread-rangers-vs-ottawa.html

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@DP_Snotty @GiveGartneraCup Still can't keep the puck out of their own net when it counts

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Caps just lost in a shootout after giving up two goals in the last 4 minutes to EDM to tie the game

4 days, 1 hour ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2015-articles/gameday-thread-rangers-vs-ottawa.html

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Fun game to watch.  One of Kreids best games start to finish all season... also, Staal played his best game all year I think.  I should keep criticizing his contract so this might become a trend!

4 days, 1 hour ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2015-articles/gameday-thread-rangers-vs-ottawa.html

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@TomDundie @GiveGartneraCup I completely get it... the intangibles.  But I also believe, people notice intangibles based on a players perception rather than allow the intangibles to create that perception....  Staal has a great perception around the league, so when he plays poorly, his stats are terrible, his game is off, people find a way to justify it.  Meanwhile, last year, if Stralman made ONE mistake, everyone thought he was the worst thing to happen to the rangers D corps (which is so so far from the truth)

At the end of the day, the idea of "intangibles" is filled with subjectivity.  Stats are stats.  And until people commit to that,  players like Glass will remain on AV coached teams

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@rangermom @GiveGartneraCup Agreed, it was a tough decision, they always are.  But after seeing the hail mary they threw with the Cally trade last year, I think brass has it in them to take the big risk that can push this team from perennial playoff team to perennial powerhouse.  Big risk reaps big rewards and I thought the staal situation was a chance to do that.


And I'm watching the same game you guys are... I see a player who is easily one of the slowest on the team, makes flat footed passes, waves his stick around rather than takes the body, commits egregious turnovers at times and rarely springs the breakout with a few quick first steps that open up space... very rarely... and I have stats to back it up

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@TomDundie @GiveGartneraCup again, SHOW ME STATS.  I can say the same thing... "this guy is good because he is good and I've watched him play good so I know he will be good and continue to be good"

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@J_CKfor30 @johnnyb3910 I'm going to say the same thing, "this guy is good because he is good and he has been good and he will be good."  "This guy is also good because he's good and he'll be really good."  

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@rangermom @GiveGartneraCup So, we should all like Glass because stats don't measure up to the eye-test.  Come one guys, you can't selectively decide when to go by stats and when not to.  No one in here, at all, thinks this contract is remotely troublesome.????  REALLY????

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@J_CKfor30 @GiveGartneraCup @johnnyb3910 So Josh, you are telling me I'm supposed to take your opinion on how a player plays... the good ole eye-test, over stats?  

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@J_CKfor30 @GiveGartneraCup @JoeyKocur Josh, what's done is done, I just hate people thinking people like me are crazy not to like this contract.  I really think there's (was) a lot of great options on the trade block and big splashes sometimes produce great returns.  

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@J_CKfor30 @GiveGartneraCup @JoeyKocur I remember Hank standing on his head at times during that series.  Call me crazy, but I think the reason our Dmen have one of the lowest corsis in the league, yet we continue to have a great GAA, might have something to do with the man in net, not the the guy waving his stick in front of it or the other one constantly dropping to his knees rather than attacking the puck carrier.

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@JoeyKocur Staal, G, not even Mac made this chart.  Which measures relative corsi and points/60 for every NHL defencemen over the past 4.5 seasons.  Measuring these two stats effectively eliminates all but top-pair NHL dmen (and some very strong 2nd pairing Dmen).   I've used this chart before because it's all you need to know.  I loved the 2012 team.  Tough, gritty, relentless.  This is no longer that team.  AV preaches puck possession.  If you are anti-glass, you have to be anti-G and you have to be anti-staal.  


And I have no doubt Staal would get 5+ per year on the open market, just as Orpik did.  But I do doubt he's genuinely worth it.  There is a difference between perception and actual value.  Stats don't lie, your subjective opinion of a player does.

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@rangermom @JMK8363 I'd put G in that category as well... but I think the real villain is perception.  Players in NY are praised when they stay there for more than a few years.  If they make an all-star team?  Forget about it.  If they have successful hockey brothers?  Double whammy.  Stats are stats.  These guys are not good Defenseman.  I just want to see Mac play with someone that is half as good as he is.

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@johnnyb3910 Actually, there is OEL, Petry, Sekera, Yandle, and Gardiner all on the trade block with smaller cap hits so finding a cheap replacement is not out of the question.  You just have to be willing to give up assets.  And we know the Rangers have a few they won't be able to resign anyways.

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@JoeyKocur @GiveGartneraCup  Show me the stats that say Staal has played well/solid over the last few years and I'll gladly be happy with this contract.  

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People can find a way to counter this article all they want.  Stats are stats.  And staal's are not good.  At all.  Part of that might be a product of playing in Torts system.  But there are a lot of players on the trade block with far better numbers who are younger and worth less in terms of perception and actual salary who have played in far worse systems for far worse teams.  I simply don't understand the argument "who are you going to replace him with?"... Petry, Sekera, Gardiner, OEL, or Yandle are all on the trade back.  All have FAR better stats (if you believe in those) and if you don't, even the "perception" (which seems to outweigh a lot of people's opinions) of at least two of those guys has to be positive enough to take a swing.  

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I think this is a great article that sums up why people are upset about the Staal signing.  What's done is done but don't call us crazy because we completely disagree with this signing.


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/what-we-learned--did-marc-staal-deserve-his-new-ny-rangers-deal-145801976.html

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@gravey94 He's missed 14 games over the last 5 years.  My only point was to show one injury doesn't make a player injury prone.  The biggest amount of time E. Staal has missed, is this year.  Same with D. Stepan.  Is D. Stepan injury prone?

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@supermaz Zucc has stated very bluntly that he wants to stay a Ranger.  He's also said the money doesn't matter as much as the term.  I wouldn't be shocked if you could get something in the 5 x 4 million range.... 


I'd be much more worried about what Hags is going to ask for.  Speed is great, but he shouldn't command above 4 million a year at all.  He might be the player with the unrealistic salary expectations and the rangers should look to see what his value would be via trade.

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