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@gman711@syntheticzero isn't it a problem that anytime somebody does something that somebody has to attribute it to their race? i've played with some very selfish chinese-american basketball players. should i say that it's bc they're americanized? is john stockton an asian in white-face? that's like slippery slope reasoning right there. where does it end? this guy's american and grew up playing in america with americans. but his playing style is chinese??? in the 22nd century, it's going to be more pc. in the 23rd even more. do you see the trend going on here? it's evolution, people are getting smarter and less prejudiced.
2 years, 7 months ago on What I See In Jeremy Lin
You say he's breaking through stereotypes but then you're re-inforcing some more. I think it's dangerous to relate Jeremy Lin's playing style to his heritage. It's probably not even true. His unselfishness as a basketball player could be because that's what he found works for him, or from his religion, inherent personality, etc. There are plenty of unselfish, team-oriented point guards. We can't say that Magic Johnson was an unselfish player because he played with an Asian guy when he was young. It re-inforces stereotypes that work against you too. Like an analyst said that they thought Lin wasn't creative enough with the ball. I think we should just let him play and not assume that his game is influenced by his Asian heritage.
@yinxzon@TheFix82 i said social prejudice. i didn't say that stereotypes aren't pervasive. i was just addressing one issue, the one that has to do with jeremy lin, the subject of the article. jeremy lin is not going to break down door for actors, singers, entertainers. he's going to break down doors for asian basketball players. and jeremy lin doesn't seem like he plays with a chip on his shoulder. he's completely a team oriented player. i think the credit to him is that he plays his own, unselfish game despite all the racism that must've been hurled at him. that entertainment stuff gets a lot more complicated. a LOT more. like money, supply and demand of asian entertainers, population percentages, RACISM, stereotypes, not to mention that asian culture and american culture are almost complete opposites. there's so much more that goes into it but bottom line is that if putting more asians on tv would make more money they'd do it. but it won't because of a myriad of factors.
@yinxzon@TheFix82 huh? you're talking about actors and entertainers or whatever and i'm talking about one social prejudice, the one that asians are inferior physically. two completely different issues. poor athleticism for an asian is perceived like a trait, like having black hair. entertainment and acting or whatnot, those are popularity contests.
@TheFix82@yinxzon if you don't think jeremy lin is not or shouldn't be a hero for Asian- Americans then you're completely insane. and you definitely are not an asian american who has played basketball at a high level. asians are considered to suck at sports but jeremy lin is proving that an asian can be a freakish athlete in a sport of freakish athletes. he's completely f'ng with preconceived and prejudiced notions of what an asian is and isn't.
@rdaza you're completely wrong if you think "at the end of the day, Lin is a promising baller." he's the first Asian American born in the US to play pro basketball, a sport Asians are presumed to suck at. And the first Asian that isn't a tall freak to play. You can't even imagine how big a deal that is for Asian Americans. it's completely socio-political and cultural.
@dkim529 There's a lot of different kinds of Asian Americans and their cultures can be really different. Some of the worst racism i've seen is between Asians. But to the people outside the Asian community, Korean-American, Chinese- American, etc. are the same thing. It's unfortunate but Asians are grouped into one category. So the success of one Asian is a success for all of us. The NBA is now going to look at the next incredible Korean American basketball player with more interest and credibility because of Jeremy Lin, a Taiwanese-American player. And it goes far beyond basketball. You're pathetic if you don't realize that. And tell me that any minority is comfortable in their own skin their whole lives and I'll show you a liar. We've been raised in a country that brainwashes people through media, music, school, all institutions to believe that minorities are inferior. It takes a while to un-learn that shit, and some never do. But we've all had it at some point.