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3 years ago on What I See In Jeremy Lin
@gman711@syntheticzero your us vs. them attitude achieves nothing. it should be about US and how we can move forward together. i think it ultimately comes down to how are you and your children and your children's children are going to be happy living in this nation. are you going to say we are asian, the rest of america doesnt understand us and we are going to show everyone up or are you going to be open and try to change things for the better. tdon't tell me its impossible because there has been enormous strides made in terms of race in this country. do you want your children to grow up in the same environment as you did? i mean, there is a way to have balance. telling everyone else to f themselves isnt going to help you. the ways things are are not the ways things have to be. that is america. thats why i keep emphasize obama. now i understand some of you don't see that and let me try to compare. while some blacks didnt cry and thought he was just a good politician, a centrist, has charisma, others did. i can acknowledge that there is a spectrum of views of why lin is a big story. the fact is, no one can deny race is part of it. if he were asian but couldnt ball is coming off the bench getting 2 pts and 2 rbs per game in a knick uniform, it wouldnt be a story either. there is a reason why there are he is the first breakout asian american athlete, you cannot deny there is some form of racism. but you cannot deny that any asian parents may encourage his or her children to focus on academics even if he or she is excelling in other fields of interests. everyone should be able to agree on this so we can move forward. im also surprised no one has acknowdged that blacks and hispanics are better off with more celebrities because they form and shape the American culture. you need more lins.
@linsome@kenzo "provide little to no challenges to our masculinity"
i just want to take a moment to parse out what you said. you are exactly right and this is tangent but i think its important. surely 'model immigrants' deserve a fair chance to challenge anyone of his masculinity or the opposite if you were a woman. unfortunately, you hit the nail on the head to say asian males have little to no shot. this is a complex issue and i ll only discuss one facet of it. perhaps asians are model immigrants and blacks and hispanics and other minority groups have it harder in other ways. but i think in other ways, they have it easier because of power and the social perception. there is no shortage of black and hispanic people of influence. as i posed before, where is the asian oprah, tiger woods or the asian mariah carey or the asian jlo? where is an asian man or woman with a voice on the internet or on tv? scientists and doctors sadly arent in the every day conversation of cultural influence. not that they arent great professions but you'd think out of every 1000 doctors or engineers, some asian kid wanted to be like justin bieber or kobe bryant? the last asian american celebrity died 40 yrs ago and he was a cult icon, not necessarily someone every man aspired to be and every woman wanted to be with. in that respect, if lin really becomes a dominant force in this league, he may be able to become the first asian celebrity with significant influence, more than any of his predecessors. his heritage is something that he embraces. his success not only in basketball, but also branding and marketing, reaching superstardom, having cultural influence as an athlete would really open doors and open eyes. i think thats what he would want to achieve outside of basketball. that's the hope.
@linsome "provide little to no challenges to our masculinity"
@gman711 jeremy lin is not giving the middle finger to white america. i think you completely misinterpreted the opinions above. your language needs balance. your views appear as unequivocally divisive and otherwise unhealthy. please tone it down a little bit.
@aonlinec i think hes talkin about like the justin bieber type, you know, the kind little teenage girls screams about.
@Mikeonetwo@TheFix82 if u look at any of his earlier interviews, he said he "played with a chip on his shoulders". i guess there is a problem when you say asian cultures and american cultures are almost complete opposites. i also did say it is complex but i do think the more aa celebrities there are, the more doors they open. business are drawing the fact that lin might sell jerseys and be a topic of interest. therefore, maybe people would be interested in asians on the big screen, too? everything helps.
@Mikeonetwo@TheFix82 i wouldnt use the words 'social justice'. i think its in the same ball park and stereotypes/pigeon holes are more pervasive than you state. asians are viewed as unathletic, socially awkard and uber competitve. asians play a very small part in the mainstream american culture, which is generally music, sports, writers, talk show hosts, movie stars, etc. jeremy lin always played with a chip on his shoulders. there are many reasons for this and there should be a level playing field.
@Mikeonetwo@TheFix82 wait why are u quoting me???
what is this photo of a train station
@AlexBennett kwame also had awesome hands right? how many asian american actors, actresses, singers, atheletes can you name? is it that they dont aspire to be or are they just not talented enough? to some ppl, its an underdog story. to asian americans, its a little more than that. the last time there was an ASIAN AMERICAN entertainer at this scale, he was in a film with Kareem.
watch the video and his other interviews. clearly, there is hardship for lin. he had work a little harder to getting in the nba, to need 3 knicks pg to be out to get a chance to play, to be cut twice and not offered a scholarship after 32-1 in high school. what do you attribute that to? all bad luck? why does kwame brown get to be the #1 pick and looked at over and over again? not that the league is racist, its not. but if u think there is equal opportunity, then you are ignorant.
I dont think he is worshipping Lin. He is merely saying he is giving Asian Americans an outlook that they can be things they wanna be. Not just lawyers, doctors, engineers. Asians are often seen as a singular group that are all nerdy and smart but lack social skills and atheletism. Jeremy Lin is opening the door or letting AAs see what they can be. Its a good story. They dont have to be meek and fit into stereotypes. Its very similar to the Obama story.