Story 204: The Doctor's Daughter
I now also have the Black edition and the Regular edition. Just saying ;P
Have you read it yet??? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
2 hours, 6 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/beyond-the-whoniverse/
The TV trailer looks...well...explosive!
2 hours, 11 minutes ago on Next Time: Robot of Sherwood
I'm getting less and less time for DWTV - really annoying. Hopefully by next week I'll be back on more regularly. But the point is, I missed the WD consensus on Into the Dalek - anyone mind filling me in?
10 hours, 44 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/062014/
Moffat's Midnight, perhaps?
3 days, 2 hours ago on Listen BBC Synopsis
Not really been on all that much lately, so I don't know if anyone has posted this...it's...well...quite something!
3 days, 4 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/062014/
@edoe101 Melt them with acid
5 days ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/062014/
5 days ago on Deep Breath: The Very Best of Clara Oswald
@The Genie @doctorwhotvuk (This needs answering)
5 days, 3 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/062014/
Hey, Skulduggery Pleasant fans - I have the Shadow Edition of The Dying of the Light, a day early.
5 days, 9 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/beyond-the-whoniverse/
So, I've just been reading about the recent...events on this site. Now, I'm not a rude or aggressive person. I can't remember the last time I raised my voice. I can't remember the last time I swore. But to anyone that is vocalising a problem with that beautiful moment in Deep Breath...F*CK OFF.
Hey, I can't change your beliefs. And I know things like homophobia can be developed in ways that are in no way the fault of the individual. But if you start throwing your stupid opinions around like they are the law, if you start being malicious? F*ck off.
My best friend happens to be homosexual. I say 'happens to', because it really isn't a big thing. That isn't who she is. She isn't 'the gay one' or anything like that. She is a beautiful, brilliant individual defined, like everyone else, by far more important characteristics. And she was really pleased to see that kiss in Deep Breath. It made her smile.
If you're willing to group people together based on their sexuality, not their individuality, then similarly, if you target one of them, you target everyone. And if you are sitting there, targeting the entire homosexual community? F*ck off. You're targeting a hell of a lot of people. Any homosexual. Their friends. Their family. You are a minority. And you're wrong. So just...f*ck off.
5 days, 11 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/062014/
Whatever you think of Strax, Dan Starkey is brilliant - so good with his time, and so dedicated to his character. And an amazing actor - if you've ever heard him in a Big Finish story, you'll know how clever he is at voicing a whole cast of Sontarans, all instantly distinguishable yet obviously the same species. Like I said, he's brilliant.
1 week ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/062014/
@TARDlSkey I noticed that - I agree with you, that it was a positive thing, but it was done very abruptly - I'd have liked her to have looked at the phone, hesitated for just a moment, and then hung up. Still great though!
1. The Eleventh Hour
2. The Impossible Astronaut
3. Deep Breath
5. Partners in Crime
6. New Earth
7. Asylum of the Daleks
8. Smith and Jones
@TheOncomingHurricane I imagine Moffat was the one throwing paper at the children....
1 week, 1 day ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/062014/
@TardisBoy Didn't know some people dislike it - any particular reason?
An almost entire music overhaul in Deep Breath was amazing - Gold's music was as fantastic as ever, and even better, it was brand new!
There are so many comments about Deep Breath, I'm really not going to be able to catch up on everyone's thoughts! No, I really am not going to be able to! But I really want to know what everyone thought - would it be rude of me to ask: 'one sentence about Deep Breath and a rating'?
I have to go to work now - I get to watch the episode at around 10.30...so I just wanted to say that I hope everyone enjoys it! Look forwarding to being able to discuss it soon! :D
1 week, 2 days ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/062014/
@The Genie @ClassicWhovian All your points are valid (well, the TARDIS one is the only one that is probably a bit too nitpick-y for me, but whatever), and I actually agree - I see all of that, and acknowledge it. And yet I love the scene anyway, because I just find it so...magical. :-)
1 week, 4 days ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/062014/
@sontaran17 @ClassicWhovian @doctorwhotvuk
*Activates rotating moustache. Lets moustache twirl 720 degrees. Leaves.*
@The Genie @ClassicWhovian Love to hear you expand on that, if you don't mind? :)
@sontaran17 @doctorwhotvuk Argh! Who is this guy? He's terrible! And Australian, for goodness sake!
Only messing, obviously ;-) :-P
I think what Capaldi said about Clara is probably designed to add suspense to a certain plot point anyone that read - I think it was Moffat's Radio Times previews (Not sure - been a lot of previewing lately!) - will remember.
I love just catching these odd snippets about an allotment, with no idea what's actually going on. Bet it's a nice allotment though!
@TardisBoy In high heels?
@TardisBoy Don't like the way your avatar is smiling out at me >:/
@TardisBoy Name's great, if you ask me. High drama, high tension, high emotion.
@TardisBoy Oh..damn. Should...should probably have...watched that. Shut up.
@TardisBoy There's really no contest, is there? :)
Doctor Who: Scene of 2013 according to WD
Today we have the 'flashback' scene from The Crimson Horror vs the pre-title scene from The Name of the Doctor - all votes greatly appreciated!
The Crimson Horror - Flashback
story – I’ll keep it short.
The picture turns
grainy. The TARDIS materialises and the Doctor bounces out.
Doctor: Okay, so...not
London, 1893. Yorkshire, 1893. Near enough.
making a habit of this, getting us lost.
Doctor: Sorry. It’s
much better than it used to be. Ooh, I once spent a hell of a long time trying
to get a gobby Australian to Heathrow Airport.
Clara: What for?
The picture flashes as
a series of photographs. We hear the scream again, and see a body in a canal.
another one. Don’t you see? Another victim! Why won’t any one of you listen?
Winifred Gillyflower, an astonishing woman. Prize-winning chemist and
mechanical engineer, so why?
Doctor: Why has
she decided to open up a match factory in her old hometown?
Edmund: And no
one who ever goes to live there ever seems to come out.
Edmund: (about a
corpse) Same as the rest. All dead from causes unknown and their flesh...
Like something manky in a coal cellar. They keep turning up in t’canal. The
Crimson ‘orror (winks)
Doctor: Ooh, good
name! Hey that’s good, isn’t it? The Crimson Horror. (chuckles) I wonder what it is?
He takes out a
Doctor: Do you
know the old Romany superstition, Clara, that the eye of a dead person retains
an image of the last thing it sees? Nonsense, of course. Unless the chemical
composition of the body has been massively corrupted.
More photos. Now we’re
in a laboratory.
Doctor: Wow, this
is nasty. An organic poison, a sort of venom. And you think it’s connected to
Edmund: I do.
then, we need a plan.
More photos. Now we’re
in Mrs Gillyflower’s recruiting place.
Doctor and Mrs Smith. Oh, yes! You’ll do very nicely.
Doctor: Oh, grand!
Smashing! Hey, the missus and I couldn’t be more chuffed. Could we, love? Huh?
More photos. Now we’re
Sweetville will provide you with everything you need. You won’t have to worry about a thing ever
Clara: The name, Sweetville...
Clara: Why not
name it after yourself? After all, it’s your creation!
Gillyflower Town, eh? Gillyflower Land, you could have rollercoasters!
It is named in tribute to my partner.
Doctor: Your late
No. My...silent partner. Mr Sweet likes to keep himself to himself. Shall we
Doctor: Who lives
Oh, names don’t matter here. All you need to know is we only recruit the
brightest and the best.
They enter a house.
Inside are two people inside a glass case. People dressed in black move in
behind the Doctor and Clara. More photos. We see the Doctor dunked in a thick
red liquid, and Clara, dressed identically too many other women, stood in a
Like pretty maids all in a row. The process improves with every attempt – Mr Sweet
is such a clever old thing. Oh! Into the canal with the rejects, Ada.
Ada hears the Doctor,
and feels his red hand, which still moves, clasping her hand. Ada gasps. More
photos, and now we’re in the Doctor’s barn type room.
the preservation process goes wrong. Only Mr Sweet knows why. And only mama is
allowed to talk to Mr Sweet. But if you’re very good, you can stay here. You’ll
be my secret. My special monster. Shh.
The Doctor grunts,
then as the door swings shut, screams. We see Edmund stumble in, skin red. The
Doctor reaches out to him, but he collapses, dead. Finally, more photos.
The Name of the Doctor - The Impossible Girl
Engineer Two: It’s
the repair shop. What kind of idiot would try and steal a faulty TARDIS?
And the camera zooms
out, a glorious shot. The music kicks in, a glorious sound. The caption reads ‘Gallifrey A Very Long Time
Ago...’, a glorious caption (font’s nice too)!
In the repair shop.
First Doctor: Yes?
What is it? What do you want?
Clara: Sorry. But
you’re about to make a very big mistake.
Shots of Clara’s eyes
I don’t know where I am.
We see Clara spinning
through an orange glow.
Clara: It’s like I’m breaking into a million pieces
and there’s only one thing I remember.
Now Clara is in the
TARDIS, a corridor.
Clara: I have to save the Doctor
The Sixth Doctor walks
Clara: He always looks different.
Now we see her behind
the Fourth Doctor.
Clara: Sometimes I think I’m everywhere at once,
running every second just to find him.
We see the Seventh
Doctor, hanging off an ice cliff by his umbrella. [Insert sarcastic remark
here, or perhaps a ‘cliffhanger’ joke.]
Clara: Just to save him.
A horn honks, and
Clara spins round as a car drives past her. It’s Bessie, with the Third Doctor
at the wheel.
Now the Second Doctor
runs past Clara. She runs after him, but trips. When she lands, she’s looking through
the floor into some dark void, in which the Fifth Doctor floats, apparently
Now we’re in Victorian
London. It’s snowed. The Eleventh Doctor is wearing a hat and looking moody.
Clara: Almost never.
Now we’re back with
voiceover Clara, spinning in her orange...umm...well, it’s the Doctor’s time stream.
But the audience doesn’t know that. Oh, you get the point.
Clara: I blew into this world on a leaf.
We see Clara’s Dad,
hit in the face by a leaf, which for some reason means he has to dive about 20
metres to get into the path of a car. Clara’s Mum pulls him out the way.
Clara: I’m still blowing. [This is probably a
line where context is key.]
We see Clara’s Mum and
Dad kissing in the rain, then holding baby Clara.
Clara: I don’t think I’ll ever learn. [I
thought the line was land – makes sense, after all, but subtitles are
suggesting learn – I’d be interested to know who you agree with!]
Clara in the Doctor’s
time stream again.
Clara: I’m Clara Oswald. I’m the impossible girl. I
was born to save the Doctor.
@TardisBoy I need a moustache to twiddle,
@TardisBoy Thank you! Now can people stop moaning about what is a near-perfect episode? ;-P
@doctorwhotvuk Thanks - probably won't watch it then, not a fan of the show, so highlights is fine for me :-)
What time does the One Show start? Thanks :)
@RoastNewt @ClassicWhovian You love all my avatars. When you admit that to yourself, you will find happiness ;)
(Thanks, is what I mean)
@sontaran17 @ClassicWhovian By...me also - I think you may have misunderstood my comment...?
Sounds like great news - we could use a greater sense of danger and threat!
1 week, 4 days ago on Moffat on Death: “There are dark times ahead”
@sontaran17 @ClassicWhovian The scene or the episode? Because I love the episode!
The Crimson Horror is such a well written, well directed, well produced, well-everything really that it is such a shame that it is that episode that gets lumped with the worst scene of Series 7, possibly of all time - I actually hate the Angie and Artie scene at the end. It's just...stupid.
Grumbles - I'm going to go and play with my grenades.
@The Administrator @ClassicWhovian Thanks! Especially since that is the correct vote ;)
Any chance someone could cast the final vote for the Doctor's speech from The Rings of Akhaten vs the scene where the Doctor and Palmer talk in the dark room, discussing being a war 'hero' - we're stuck at deadlock! Thanks :)
@Mark McCullough @ClassicWhovian Oh, I didn't consider that a twist...actually, of course you're right! Silly me - sorry! :/
1 week, 5 days ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/062014/
Do you mind if I could ask you to allude to this twist - I've seen the film, but of course I'm sure others will want to remain spoiler-free! :)
I think, because of 11's big speech in TROA (which, whatever you think of it, certainly pulls focus), that it's a shame no one ever points out just how nice the first song, 'God of Akhaten' is as a scene. It's rare, in Doctor Who, to just get a scene where everything is just...really warm. Everyone is having a nice time, Clara and the Doctor are having a laugh as he tries to join in, a nice touch with the sentimental objects, and everyone is just...singing. Warm is definitely the perfect word for this wonderful moment.
@TARDlSkey Just watched it also! Great, a definite 10/10!
1 week, 5 days ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/beyond-the-whoniverse/
Doctor Who:Scene of 2013 according to WD
So, before I do today's new one, if anyone wants to vote in yesterday's one (The Rings of Akhaten - The Doctor's Speech VS Hide - War Heroes), that's be great! Today, we have:
The Bells of Saint John - Kizlet Defeated
Mahler: I think
that was your office.
Excuse me. I believe there’s someone to see me.
Miss Kizlet walks into
her office – the Doctor is sat at her desk.
Miss Kizlet: Do
Sorry about the draught.
her back into her body right now.
Miss Kizlet: I
Doctor: Yes you
She’s a fully integrated part of the data cloud now, she can’t be separated.
download the entire cloud, everyone you’ve trapped in there.
Miss Kizlet: You
realise what would happen?
those still with bodies to go home to would be free!
Miss Kizlet: A
tiny number. Most would simply die.
Doctor: They’d be
released from a living hell. It’s the best you can do for them. So give the
Miss Kizlet: And
why would I do that?
I’m going to motivate you! Any second now.
Miss Kizlet: You
ridiculous man. Why did you even come here? Whatever for?
Doctor: I didn’t.
Doctor: I’m still
in the café.
The shot cuts to the
Doctor in the café
I’m finishing my coffee
Miss Kizlet: What
are you talking about?
You hack people. But me...
...I’m old fashioned!
removes his motorcycle helmet.
I hack technology.
Here’s your motivation.
Real Doctor hits a
computer key. Spoonhead Doctor’s head turns around.
Miss Kizlet: No.
No! Not me! Not me!
Miss Kizlet is uploaded
into the data cloud.
Cold War - Skaldak's Out
Just...let me help you.
require no help. There will be no help.
Clara edges closer.
Clara: I’m okay.
listen, Clara, don’t get too close.
Clara: I’m okay!
Clara edges closer
Clara moves her hand
Clara lifts the
helmet, to reveal the armour is empty. She gasps and backs away.
Clara: It’s not
there it’s gone!
The armour opens,
straining against the chains. A light flashes, accompanied by a beeping sound.
Gone? Gone? What do you mean, gone?
Clara: It’s got
Skaldak: It is time
I learnt the measure of my enemies and what this vessel is capable of.
Doctor: No, no,
Skaldak: Harm one
of us and you harm us all. By the moons, this I swear.
get out of there. Get out!
Did a little test today - having only read the full list of titles once, the day it was revealed, and without deliberately rehearsing them or planning to see if I could recall them, I told my (bored looking) brother the titles - I got all of them except Time Heist and Flatline - make of that what you will. All I know is that as Series 8 looms ever closer, my brother becomes more and more wary about being within fanboy-ing distance of me...!
1 week, 6 days ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/062014/
1 week, 6 days ago on Moffat Previews Series 8 in Radio Times
@The Genie @ClassicWhovian On paper, I might agree with you, but it's the way in which Matt delivers that speech, as I may have slightly fanboy-ed over in my description of it, that makes it really special to me!
So, we now have our nominations for Doctor Who: Scene of 2013 according to WD
It's now time to start eliminating some of them - our first 'face of' is our best scene from The Rings of Akhaten vs our best scene from Hide:
The Rings of Akhaten - The Doctor's Speech
Merry: I want to
Clara: So do I.
Merry steps onto the
platform and begins to sing.
Merry: Rest now/My Warrior
The Doctor smiles.
It’s a poignant smile.
Merry: Rest now (continues)
then. That’s what I’ll do. I will tell you a story.
And now more are
singing. Everyone is joining in, singing in from the soul. You can see the fear
and hope in Merry’s eyes.
All: Live/Wake up/Wake up
Clara looks around,
All: And let the cloak/Of life/Cling to your
Doctor: Can you
hear them? All these people who lived in terror of you and your judgement, all
these people whose ancestors devoted themselves, sacrificed themselves to you.
Can you hear them singing?
All: Live/Wake up (continues)
Doctor: Oh, you
like to think you’re a god. But you’re not a god. You’re just a parasite, eaten
out with jealousy and envy and longing for the lives of others. You feed on
them. On the memory of love and lost and birth and death and joy and sorrow,
so...so...come on, then. Take mine. Take my memories.
Tendrils of murky red
light begin to snake towards the Doctor from the Old God.
Doctor: But I
hope you’ve got a big appetite.
The tendrils hit the
Doctor in the chest.
I’ve...lived...a long life. And I have seen a few things.
Now we see the pain in
the Doctor’s eyes. But it’s not pain caused by the Old God. We see his memories
now. We see every day of his long life, and the pain it has caused him to go on
living it. But we also see the courage that it has given him, and we see the strength
that means that he will never, ever walk away.
All: Wake up/And let the cloak/Of life/Cling to
Now the Doctor’s voice
is filled with emotion, as he heaves all of his suffering from within himself.
Doctor: I walked
away from the last great time war. I marked the passing of the Time Lords. I
saw the birth of the universe and I watched as time ran out, moment by moment,
until nothing remained. No time, no space. Just me!
I can’t even begin to
describe the work Matt does with the Doctor’s voice and eyes here. It may be
the best performance in the last 50 years of Doctor Who. So I’ll just put
Doctor: I walked
in universes where the laws of physics were devised by the mind of a madman.
And I have watched universes freeze and creations burn. I have seen thing
things you wouldn’t believe! I have lost things you will never understand! And
I know things. Secrets that must never be told, knowledge that must never be
spoken. Knowledge that will make parasite gods blaze!
He straightens his bow
tie. The singing reaches a crescendo. The Doctor is no longer afraid. We still
see the pain of his life, but now he’s living it, feeling it, and he isn’t
weak. He is so strong because of it.
Doctor: (bellowing) So, come on, then! Take it!
Take it all, baby! Have it! You have it all!
The Doctor is
enveloped in a golden orange glow. The Old God fades. The Doctor hangs his
head, the light fading in front of him. Oh, and every Whovian just dies.
Hide (War heroes)
Doctor: I had a
little peek at your records back at the Ministry. Well, you’ve certainly seen a
thing or two in your time. Disrupting U-boat operations across the North Sea.
Sabotaging railway lines across Europe. Operation Gibbon. The one with the
carrier pigeon’s brilliant. I do love a carrier pigeon.
Palmer: I did my
duty but, then so did thousands of others. Millions of others. I was just lucky
enough to come back.
Doctor: Yes, but
how does that man, that war hero, end up here, in a lonely old house looking
Palmer: Because I
killed. And I caused to have killed. I sent young men and women to their
deaths. But here I am, still alive and.... But it does tend to haunt you,
living, after so much of...the other thing.
Please pick your favourite of the two scenes (if you wanted to, obviously!) - oh, and if Livefyre decides against formatting this correctly...well, I'm sorry!