Jim Les for 3
Bio not provided
McCallum has had some solid games. If you can get a rotation player out of a second rounder, you're doing it right. I'm looking forward to seeing what Ray can bring to finish out the season.
2 days, 9 hours ago on Ray McCallum takes advantage of late season opportunity
@KMFA Hi! Welcome to Cowbell Kingdom! If you'd like to discuss Jimmer Fredette, I strongly recommend you visit www.blogabull.com. That is the team blog for the Chicago Bulls, where Jimmer Fredette plays. Enjoy!
Nice coverage in the video, guys. Is Demarcus always that....reserved in postgame comments?
2 days, 11 hours ago on CK Press Box Report: Sacramento Kings 96, New Orleans Pelicans 89
Shut up Phil. Stop hitting the Zing vodka. We all remember how the arena plans went down during the Maloof regime.
4 days, 5 hours ago on Phil Jackson shares new perspective on Sacramento Kings’ near move to Seattle
Nice challenge. Let's see Demarcus be a leader and lead this team to a good finish. He's grown up some this season. Time to show that you are a franchise guy in all respects, not just on offense.
4 days, 11 hours ago on Sunday Musings: A challenge to DeMarcus Cousins
@Charger11 @nchr McLemore looks absolutely terrible. He's also a rookie. Kevin Martin looked pretty bad as a rookie too. If McLemore doesn't pick it up soon he's going to be coming off the bench behind a veteran next season.
I basically agree that at some point, they should have run Jimmer out there for extended minutes. Prior management was prior management. Those guys were a disaster on every level. This year, I think that the die was cast in preseason when they didn't pick up his option. Having no incentive to play him over players who were under contract for the future (Thornton, Outlaw) or rookies (McLemore, McCallum), this year turned out really poorly for Jimmer. At PG, I think Malone believes that Jimmer is incapable of being an NBA-caliber ballhandler and passer.
It sucks. It basically sucked for everyone involved. We'll agree to disagree on his level of potential. Ah the Grant Napear show. I'm just outside the coverage area but i do miss his rants :)
5 days, 6 hours ago on A final conversation with Jimmer Fredette
@Charger11 @Jim Les for 3 @KennethBrody I agree that the assist metric is flawed. However it is the metric that is in use. You are welcome to construct an analysis that proves your point about Isaiah "overdribbling". You could probably make some money from it even. I don't think your assessment is correct.
You don't think IT earned his playing time? How do you think playing time works? Why would the team give the unknown 60th pick more opportunity than the nationally-known 10th pick? I still haven't seen a good answer to this question.
"It would be intelligent for certain “people who work in professional basketball” to give more player development time to the player who has the higher potential. "
Sure. So given that they didn't do that, who do you think management thinks has more potential? Given that one guy just got bought out and the other one had the guy starting in front of him shipped out and is going to get seriously paid this summer, who do you think management thinks has more potential? Who do you think the league thinks has more potential?
5 days, 9 hours ago on A final conversation with Jimmer Fredette
@Charger11 @Jim Les for 3 @KennethBrody It doesn't matter that I don't know who you are. You haven't made any arguments that persuade me, or refuted my arguments, so I'm going to defer to the people who do this for a living in my judgments of players. Neither of us care if you don't convince me or I don't convince you. I think I'm on more solid ground; you think otherwise.
I'm just pointing out that you're not making logical arguments in favor of your position.
It's pretty amazing that you don't need to see practices to evaluate players. That would be unusual by the standards of pro basketball.
You're basically arguing against using evidence or expertise to evaluate things. Is that your intention?
Why do you need to resort to ad hominem?
@Charger11 @Jim Les for 3 @KennethBrody Thanks for replying. Actually you are not correctly stating my argument and thus not correctly responding to it. My argument is that on average, I expect Kings management to be better evaluators than Kenneth Brody. I think this is especially true given that Kenneth Brody is not employed as a professional evaluator and deployer of basketball talent. Our management works in a highly competitive talent market. This is not a perfectly efficient market, but certainly has high financial stakes. Kenneth Brody being wrong about Jimmer has no financial ramifications for a $550M business. Kings management being wrong about Jimmer does have those ramifications. Kenneth Brody's job is to be a fan of a player and a team. Kings management's job is to make money and win.
Some fans who do understand basketball very well write blogs and have even become journalists and organization members (see John Hollinger).
As to your McLemore arguments, McLemore could be a bust. He does have bad hands. But I'm willing to bet much more on the Kings organization's ability to make those assessments than your ability. Remember how much more they know about a player than you do. They see practices: we don't. They know the player's personality: we don't.
It's important not to overrate your own ability to succeed in a competitive market with players that have more resources than you do.
5 days, 10 hours ago on A final conversation with Jimmer Fredette
@Charger11 @Jim Les for 3 @KennethBrody Thanks for replying.
Distilling your points: "Maybe he's sensitive--so what?" So in a system like pro basketball, where the best 10 players make $18M a year in salary, the best 450 players get an NBA paycheck, and the next best 1000 players have to play in the D-League or overseas, being sensitive isn't an asset. That's basically why Jimmer has never complained to the media; he knows it's about his game only.
The link to his actual game is that, in my view, Jimmer partisans try to shift blame for Jimmer's performance to date onto other sources like the organization, the coaches, etc. My point is that other players suffered from the same issues. Remember, the 60th pick in the draft rarely even suits up for an NBA team. Ours beat out our lottery pick three seasons in a row.
Isaiah was not "given" but rather earned his playing time. Remember, we're talking about the 60th pick in the draft. He's actually an above average shooter by TS% and EFG. He's also not a ball stopper, but rather tied for 11th in the NBA in assists per game (10th among point guards).
Jimmer's inability to overcome his supposed "abuse" is really his own problem. His inability to overcome this to date has cost him probably tens of millions of dollars in future income. The league is about performance. Coaches and GMs rarely get the opportunity for three-year plans. It's a "what have you done for me lately" league.
I hope that Thibs gets performance out of him. I like the Bulls and I think Thibs is a good coach, and it's probably a good landing spot for him based on their experiences with Korver, Belinelli, Nate Robinson, etc.
To your statement: "It is just possible that, because of player abuse by coaches Smart and Malone, we haven’t seen the real Jimmer yet."
Yes, it is possible. I just think it's unlikely. I think it's unlikely based on his performance to date. I think he's basically Eddie House, Damon Jones, etc.
@KennethBrody I appreciate your continued engagement on this issue and your distancing from the uglier comments left here by Jimmer fans.
In my view comparisons to Steve Nash or Stephen Curry are just.....out there.
I just don't understand why you would call people who work in professional basketball "simple-minded" in contrast to your own abilities to project player performance. Doesn't it make you uncomfortable to presume that you (a Jimmer partisan) are better able to evaluate and deploy talent than people who get paid to 1) win games 2) develop players?
Criticism and suggestion are the bases of sports fandom, but in your comments I basically see irrational exuberance projected from desire.
The problems with the Kings are multifaceted and are in something like the following order:
1) Poor level of investment from the prior owners
2) Downstream from low investment, poor management
3) Downstream from poor management, botched draft picks and poor player development
4) Downstream from botched picks and poor player development, a low asset base.
Jimmer (and every other Kings player) suffered from all these issues. Some players overcame them to get minutes. Some didn't. The 60th pick in Jimmer's draft overcame them and outplayed him every season. He's going to get a $30-$40M contract in a couple of months. Jimmer right now is hoping for a 2 year, $4M contract in a couple of months.
Still 0 for the season without Cousins.
6 days, 22 hours ago on Road Reaction Postgame Show: Los Angeles Lakers 126, Sacramento Kings 122
@Jhuggs34 I'm not sure I want our good scorers getting our underwhelming rookie more involved in the offense. McLemore looks very green out there right now. If we were actually playing to win games he'd be getting about 10mpg.
I don't want to see Isaiah overshooting in this one. Let's see some ball movement into the frontcourt. Williams needs to be making quick cuts and getting out in transition. McLemore should continue to work on getting to the line and establishing the drive before moving out to the corner three. Go Kings!
1 week ago on Game 58 Preview: Sacramento Kings at Los Angeles Lakers
@GrantChristensen Obviously a shot at Cousins, and not an unfair one. In last week's podcast James gave Chuck Hayes a little business for being out of shape and spoke to the general idea of the organization not being well-disciplined during the last few Maloof years. I would love a guy like Taj Gibson on this team.
1 week ago on Why Jimmer Fredette no longer made sense for the Sacramento Kings
@CowbellKingdom @TABDOG Thank goodness.
@Em Gee @Jim Les for 3 We heard you guys the 10th time. How many times do you have to repeat the same thing? No one from the Kings organization cares now. It's over, the guy is on the wire. Tomorrow he'll be signed by Chicago. Please take your friends over to www.blogabull.com.
Alright guys, it's time for us to keep trolling this Kings message board even though our favorite guy was bought out. There are some Kings fans on there that haven't yet internalized our message. I know we're all scared to go post at the biggest Kings site because there are meanies there. Luckily this is a safe space for us to bring out our statistically insignificant small sample size arguments and "Keith Smart is a racist!" arguments. I figure if we keep saying them maybe they'll come true. Anyway, see you guys in the next thread ok?
So, is this the last thread where you guys all cry on each others' shoulders and badmouth the Kings, or is it when Jimmer signs with another team? Just planning here......
1 week, 1 day ago on Sacramento Kings free Jimmer Fredette