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20 hours, 42 minutes ago on In The Cockpit With Brandon Webb From Seattle To San Diego

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How would you describe relations with the Indigs over there?  What was dealing with their culture like for you?

1 day, 15 hours ago on CIA Base in Afghanistan: Day in the Life

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@A7Dave @SEAN SPOONTS(MAFIA) Primary?  You mean German or French Authorities?

1 day, 15 hours ago on How Germanwings Co-Pilot, Andreas Lubitz, Deliberately Crashed Plane

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@majrod @YankeePapa I had a similar experience with SA Navy in SAR school in Jacksonville.  Two Saudi E-5s were sent to Rescue Swimmer school in 1982. They were in the US representing their country and their Navy to the best Navy on the planet.  We expected they would be pretty motivated to make a good showing.   Well, they both sucked.  They could barely swim, they were out of shape and were as motivated as Gen. Picketts men when he mentioned a second charge at the guns at Gettysburg.  They didn't graduate with us and were sent home in the 3rd week because they just couldn't cut it on any level. 

  Now, these were the first two guys SA had ever sent to Rescue Swimmer School.  You can figure the Saudis had the gouge on what a tough school it was and would have carefully picked the two best people they could find in their entire navy.  And they still sucked and didn't make past the 3rd week.  No different in 92 during Desert Storm and unlikely they are any different today. 


 I do hear their fighter pilots are reasonably good though.  


What is that? 50 pilots?

2 days, 8 hours ago on US SOF Leaving Yemen, Unstated Ramifications…

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I review of this book by a SOFREP writer would be interesting in the area of comparison and contrasts between the Jaegers and our units.

1 week, 2 days ago on SOFREP is Proud to Present Jaeger: At War with Denmark’s Elite Special Forces

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The "Spoonts Theorem" is that a corrupt, inefficient and powerful State cannot help but attract corrupt, inefficient, power hungry people to itself to run things.  By its very nature this State will seek to push out frugal, honest people from its midst as a threat to its own existence and the status quo.


There is no band aid like term limits or a balanced budget amendment that can correct this.  Because a Leviathan State has the bureaucracy to thwart the expressed wishes of the voters as it has done so recently with immigration reform and the IRS intimidating Tea Party groups.  The solution is to drastically reduce the size and scope of government at the federal level in favor of the state governments.

1 week, 2 days ago on One Step Below Treason is Politics as Usual

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Read this piece earlier off site at Warfighter.  It's good work.  Kyle's death left millions of people wondering what kind of person could do something like this?  I'm happy to know that the reports from a year ago still appear to be correct.  That the killer was not suffering from PTSD, that he was likely suffering from a more severe and untreated mental illness. Not that the insanity defense will avail him.  


Perhaps the military will think twice before lowering enlistment standards to allow mental defectives into the military next time.  Perhaps the civilians(Who control the purse strings thru Congress) will call for raising the pay instead to spur enlistments.  I think quality people mean more in the military than just about any private sector job.  If they need more people at McDonalds they offer higher pay, they don't drop the ability to read, or ignore a criminal record.


Perhaps the military could also do a better job with their exit screenings for mental illness for service members leaving the military too. Military service tends to be transformational.  Maybe we should take more care in seeing just what kind of transformation the service member experienced?


Perhap the VA could take more care in correctly diagnosing and treating veterans who suffer from PTSD or other mental issues.  I think this was a factor in the Routh case.


Finally, this doesn't have to be the complete story of Routh to be an interesting and valuable lesson  for readers. You don't have to be a trained head shrinker to draw certain reasonable conclusions about routh's state of mind which is probably the only mitigating factor in this whole tragedy.  It's part of understanding why what happened happened.  The trial will be fairly simple, there is little doubt as to his guilt.  It's really about proper legal process now rather than a nail biting who-dun-it. trial. When it's over perhaps the Kyle family can recover a little further from this profound loss. That family lost a father and a husband....while America lost a humble, decent minded hero.  Maybe we can start to recover from that loss as well.

1 month, 1 week ago on Eddie Ray Routh: The Untold Story

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@LadyHW @Loren Schofield What surprises me is that Maher can't make the connection between the extreme forms of Leftism(Communism and Fascism) which also kill you for non-conformity with their dogmas though they be atheist and secular in nature.  Nice of him to point to Islam but he ought to look in the mirror. 

1 month, 1 week ago on Bowling for Cowardice: Michael Moore and Snipers

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@Loren Schofield @JohnChristopher1 I think the operative word you mentioned is "hate."  At it's center Liberalism is animated by hatreds; of people, ideas, religions, things and attitudes.  

1 month, 1 week ago on Bowling for Cowardice: Michael Moore and Snipers

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@BrandonWebb1 @SEAN SPOONTS(MAFIA) I think the same could be said of you too Chief Webb.  I'm glad you're around to be able tell you that.

1 month, 1 week ago on A Navy SEAL’s Opinion of American Sniper “The Movie” and The Moral Cowardice of Moore, Rogen, and Maher

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Liked your review Brandon.  I think you touched well on the point that people like Moore, Maher and Rogen live in a world that is Encino Man narrow in scope and warped by a Twilight Zone kind of morality that see's people like Chris Kyle as cowardly while lauding people like Roman Polanski and Woody Allen as heroes.  Hollywood spent the last 12 years making nearly a score of preachy, anti-American, shitty anti-war movies like Rendition, The Kingdom, Body of Lies,In the Valley of Elah, Traitors and Lions for Lambs which all lost heaps of money in the box office trying to make the audience feel bad about their country, its cause in this fight and its fighting men and women who were portrayed as either mentally deranged or helpless pawns driven to slaughter.  So a movie like American Sniper, which affirms the traditional American hero as someone not born to greatness but made so by circumstance, serves to repudiate everything Hollywood has been trying tell us is wrong with America all these years.  American Sniper also did so while being the top grossing R rated movie of all time.   The movie's popularity with audiences is what people like Moore, Maher and Rogen probably find most galling. 


I saw the movie with a group of veterans several of whom had multiple deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan.  We picked at things too. 


That was an M-60 tank with an Abrams turret CG'd on it in the opening scene.


There weren't any burned out M1A tanks littering any battlefields. We didn't lose very many and they were recovered within hours typically.


Doesn't anyone look up when they are moving down those streets with multi-story buildings on them?


The Mooj didn't just run into our guns to be shot down.  Some just stood out in the streets and blazed away til they got popped but in cities they mostly had to be rooted out of their holes like rats.


We did notice good attention to detail in uniforms, muzzle discipline but hooted at the popped collars on Cooper even in desert cammies.(Is the popped collar now the Navy SEAL identifier in movies?)


After a short time we settled in and realised this wasn't a movie about those things.  We even forgot that Cooper wasn't really Chief Kyle.  Bradley Cooper really did the job on that role.  We also realized that the movie wasn't the book(or it would be 8 hours long).


Afterwards, we stood and clapped with the rest of the audience(in a still packed house more than 3 weeks into the release) and went to eat and drink booze.


As the liquor flowed we all took turns bloviating on the movie and kind of agreed that it wasn't a movie about war as much as it was about how war changes the people who fight in them.  This may be a view unique to veterans who are all transformed from their former selves by serving, but we all agreed that Chief Kyle came out of his war a better man than when he went into it. Before the Navy Kyle was a shiftless cowboy living from rodeo to rodeo.  After the war, he was a father, a husband, an accomplished warrior, a philanthropist, a devout Christian and an advocate for veterans.  Indeed, on the last day of his life Chief Kyle was trying to help a fellow vet having a hard time getting his shit back together.


That may be the thing that bothers people like Moore and Maher the most;  The notion of going to war and coming out a better person in the end.  Hollywood types like these guys tell themselves that by not serving they preserved their humanity.  It's really just an excuse for their moral and physical cowardice.  The fact of the matter is that Chris Kyle didn't lose his humanity in war,  he actually found it there.



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1 month, 2 weeks ago on A Navy SEAL’s Opinion of American Sniper “The Movie” and The Moral Cowardice of Moore, Rogen, and Maher

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This is yet another case of the White House not being able to play a hand even when they deal it to themselves.


A desertion charge means they traded five terrorist mastermind criminals for one dim bulb, deserting criminal who had to ask his Sgt. what would happen if he lost his weapon.  A PR nightmare for the White House.


Not pressing the desertion charge means back pay, promotion and VA benefits for someone who probably actively collaborated with the enemy and violated the Code of Conduct as a prisoner.  Another PR nightmare for the White House and a serious morale hit for the US Military in general.


I think when the facts do come to light they will reveal that Sgt Bergdahl was just a convenient pretext to cut terrorists loose from GITMO. The White House would have traded those five terrorists for Bergdahls boonie hat and called it a victory.

1 month, 4 weeks ago on The Deal with Bowe Bergdahl

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The interview with Teamroom member Roger Shulz was great. He made some great points.  

1 month, 4 weeks ago on Episode 130: Shot Show 2015 Recap

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@TimothyWittmer @SEAN SPOONTS(MAFIA) @Waterborne We really can't have an intelligent discussion on this unless you are willing to own the things you say without quibbling and prevarication.  


"TERRIBLE job blaming the police for something that was not their fault."


That is a clear, unambiguous, exonorating statement of the deputies conduct.


In the common understanding of plain English, to say that someone is not a fault is to hold them exactly and completely blameless.


Your point about the constraints on release of information are noted.  But it doesn't refute mine.  Which is, that if the victim/suspect was armed there is no legal restraint that prevents them from saying so.  At minimum they could have said; "At this point it appears the suspect was armed and threatened the deputies with a weapon."  But they did not do that.  Instead, they said the deputies "felt threatened" without tying a weapon to the issuance of that threat or saying that the threat was of a deadly nature..  Now, the PIO might be an idiot, but these public statements are carefully prepared, usually passing over the desk of an attorney that works for the Sheriff's office.   It seems to me that in this case they can't plausibly claim the officers acted properly and this statement reflects that doubt. 




2 months ago on Arizona Veterans Affairs Failure Kills Veteran in Crisis

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@TimothyWittmer @SEAN SPOONTS(MAFIA) @Waterborne It would appear from the facts presented so far that the officers were responding to several 9/11 call hang-ups from that address.  They would have arrived on scene ready for trouble.  You will recall that the victim/suspect was shot with a handgun and a patrol rifle.  The patrol rifle would have come out of a trunk of the cruiser at some point.  If that rifle was produced upon arriving at the scene that would support Derek's contention that they arrived ready for battle rather than ready to provide help. If the officers arrived in separate vehicles and not in a single cruiser that would also suggest that they expected trouble rather than rendering public assistance.  Given that they were responding to several 9/11 hangups that may have been Dept. procedure. 


Here are the problems I see with this shoot right away.


1)  There were two officers responding.  A question in the inquiry will be whether a 2 against 1 ratio would have allowed them to make a non-lethal response to the 'threat' presented.


2)  The language used by the MCSO did not clearly describe a 'deadly threat' presented to the officers.  I surmise that if that threat was clearly a 'deadly' one, they would have said so.


3)  MCSO does not state what kind of weapon the victim/suspect was in possession of.  Open or concealed carry is legal in Nevada without permit and the victim/shooter was in his own front yard.  He would not have been breaking the law simply by possessing a weapon.  I surmise that if the victim/suspect was brandishing a deadly weapon to the officers the MCSO would have clearly said "He brandished a handgun,knife, axe, machete, lead pipe, etc'."  Instead the MCSO has declined to say what kind of weapon he had or if he threatened officers with it.


The non-disclosure of certain facts that would have clearly made the shoot justified suggests those facts may not exist.  I'm willing to wait until more info comes out, but I don't think it's rash or reckless to suggest there may be a problem with the manner in which the officers reacted.  I don't think that reveals any anti-LEO bias either.


 I am pleased that you now want to wait for more facts to come out as well.  Previously, you were ready to hold them blameless on incomplete facts;  


"TERRIBLE job blaming the police for something that was not their fault."


2 months ago on Arizona Veterans Affairs Failure Kills Veteran in Crisis

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@TimothyWittmer @Waterborne Actually, Tim you offered a strawman  of your own to knock down;  "police have to kill every single person they come in contact with regardless of threat or provocation."


And there will probably be an inquiry about whether the 'threat' they perceived warranted the use of lethal force.  The legal rules for cops are the same for civilians.  You may only use as much force as is needed to deal with the threat.


A cop can shoot a large dog that is biting him, but would get hammered for shooting a puppy that nipped his finger.  Both are dogs, both attacks are considered aggravated assault but the response should be different depending upon the force required to deal with the threat.  You misstate the known facts by claiming the officers faced a threat of "deadly force."   The Department spokesman did not describe the threat they faced as deadly;


“The officers felt threatened and fired at the man, one with a handgun and the other with an assault rifle."


The MCSO did not say what the nature of that threat was or what kind of weapon they were threatened with.  That matters a lot here.



There aren't really enough facts above to know whether the officers reacted properly within the law and department procedures.  But a guy shot dead in his own front yard needs to be carefully investigated to assure the public that the trust they place in LEOs is returned with prudence and restraint on part of law enforcement.



2 months ago on Arizona Veterans Affairs Failure Kills Veteran in Crisis

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@NicholasAB  "seems to be a gross overreaction to what is essentially an acknowledgment of honest similarities"


What are those similarities as you see them to be?

2 months, 1 week ago on Michael Moore and Seth Rogen Are Elitist Cowards

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@RebeccaSummers That was a classy thing to do. BZ.

2 months, 1 week ago on Michael Moore and Seth Rogen Are Elitist Cowards

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Both Moore and Rogan suffer from a terrible affliction.  They just can't rise above who they are.  Each in their own way, Moore making propaganda movies for Castro and Rogan being unfunny in one movie after another, are not just sitting in a sewer but feel compelled to add all they can to it.  That is the legacy of their achievements.  In 100 years history will still remember Chris Kyle but Moore and Rogan will be obscure footnotes, unsung, unmourned and unmissed.  They probably realize that too.

2 months, 1 week ago on Michael Moore and Seth Rogen Are Elitist Cowards

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This may well be the finest piece of Journalism that Lindy has ever done. 

(For mature audiences, you will be watching 6,000 Calorie a day scarfing pre-diabetic slowly committing suicide here.)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMJS2k_vBY0

2 months, 2 weeks ago on The Guardian and Lindy West Bash American Sniper With Hubris and Self-Admiration

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@SOFREP @shooten And buy the book and see the movie. Tell em' Lindy sent ya.

2 months, 2 weeks ago on The Guardian and Lindy West Bash American Sniper With Hubris and Self-Admiration

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@HM1 (FMF) Ret. Lol. Imagining Tony rewriting and trying to tone it down 5-6 times before finally posting the above.

2 months, 2 weeks ago on The Guardian and Lindy West Bash American Sniper With Hubris and Self-Admiration

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Here is Lindy West in her own words accidentally describing herself; 


"Internet trolling is not random, it is not inevitable, it is a deliberate force with a political agenda—a strong-armed goon."


In a year who is going to remember Lindy as anything more than just another faded brown skid mark in the discarded Skivvies of the interweb? ....Not me, I'll be at the movies.


Tell Lindy you saw it because of her review.

2 months, 2 weeks ago on The Guardian and Lindy West Bash American Sniper With Hubris and Self-Admiration

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"U.S. military shot down MH370 because they thought it had been hacked and was about to be used in terror attack', claims former airline boss"


(And the proof offered is a fisherman who says he saw the plane near the Maldives and a fire extinguisher that someone claimed to have found.  From that we have the US military shooting down the plane?)


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2883651/U-S-military-shot-MH370-thought-hacked-used-terror-attack-claims-former-airline-boss.html

3 months ago on “Alright, Goodnight” – Does Malaysia Want To Know What Happened To Flight MH-370?

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@mrspaul @SEAN SPOONTS(MAFIA) @A7Dave @CarpeNoctem In Colorado the State imposed a 30% tax on weed, so the price went up, not down.  People will still be going to jail but it will be for selling untaxed weed rather than possession.  Given the that State approved stuff is so expensive the illegal market will still thrive, not effecting the revenue to the cartels very much.

3 months, 1 week ago on Is Legal Pot Crippling the Cartels?

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@LawyerHandle That low margin, combined with its bulk and transport costs is probably the reasons the Mexican cartels got into the business.  Everyone else was getting out of the pot business.  The successful eradication efforts of home growers opened the market to Mexico. If we had a secure border we might have stopped that trade too.  There is something really shitty about people smoking pot from mexico knowing how many innocent people die over there to get it to them.

3 months, 2 weeks ago on Is Legal Pot Crippling the Cartels?

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@JohnChristopher1 A Pharma company that makes a insect resistant, or draught resistant cannabis plant would be able to patent it.  If they genetically modified the plant to increase the THC level, reduce the carcinogen level or give it a different flavor that could also be patented.  And the gov't, interested in only having to collect taxes from a few large companies would be very willing to help them secure those patents to the disfavor of the small growers.  They would end up being able to grow a pound or so a year for personal use, with jail time for reselling it.  Much like personal distillers are regulated now.

3 months, 2 weeks ago on Is Legal Pot Crippling the Cartels?

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@Waterborne Currently, 24 States allow cannabis and cannabinoids to treat certain medical conditions.  I'm in favor of doctors using every tool at their disposal to treat disease and disorder.  But, my point remains, that what is behind cannabis for "medicinal" use is an agenda  for cannabis for casual recreational use.  Like we just recently saw in Colorado.


And the proof of that is fairly obvious.  How many other life saving drugs or treatments have to be put on ballot initiatives to be approved?  Was Open Heart Surgery made available by a voter referendum?  Did Penicillin have to have voter approval to be given to patients?

3 months, 2 weeks ago on Is Legal Pot Crippling the Cartels?

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@A7Dave @CarpeNoctem And their bio chemists will enhance the THC levels,  enhance the taste, try to mask the nasty odor, add filters to extract the carcinogens in the smoke, package it and market it.  And, since the Gov't stands a better chance of reaping a bigger return of tax revenue on large conglomerates marketing pot over Ma and Pa Stoner growing it in their backyard the gov't will pass regulations to put the small farmers out of business in favor of the big Agro or Pharma companies.

3 months, 2 weeks ago on Is Legal Pot Crippling the Cartels?

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@mrspaul @SEAN SPOONTS(MAFIA) @CarpeNoctem From the National Cancer Institute's website;


The main psychoactive constituent of Cannabis was identified as delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC). In 1986, synthetic delta-9-THC in sesame oil was licensed and approved for the treatment of chemotherapy -associated nausea and vomiting under the generic name dronabinolClinical trials determined that dronabinol was as effective as or better than other antiemetic agents available at the time.[7] Dronabinol was also studied for its ability to stimulate weight gain in patients with AIDS in the late 1980s. Thus, the indications were expanded to include treatment of anorexia associated with human immunodeficiency virus infection in 1992. Clinical trial results showed no statistically significant weight gain, although patients reported an improvement in appetite.[8,9]


http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page3

3 months, 2 weeks ago on Is Legal Pot Crippling the Cartels?

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@mrspaul @SEAN SPOONTS(MAFIA) @CarpeNoctem Yes, which is why pot legalization isn't really about medical patients.  It's about drug addiction explained away as; "Its my medicine."  

3 months, 2 weeks ago on Is Legal Pot Crippling the Cartels?

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@CarpeNoctem @SEAN SPOONTS(MAFIA) @A7Dave Thank you for perfectly illustrating my point.  And I took no offence.  I'm sure that's as polite as you know how to be.

3 months, 2 weeks ago on Is Legal Pot Crippling the Cartels?

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@CarpeNoctem @A7Dave Actually, I've always been kinda disgusted with the way recreational smokers pimp "cancer patients and chronic pain sufferers" as the gateway to get what they really want. To smoke MJ to get high.

3 months, 2 weeks ago on Is Legal Pot Crippling the Cartels?

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@CarpeNoctem What makes you think the Pharma companies won't start growing it?  You think it will stay Mom and Pop organic farming?  Seriously?

3 months, 2 weeks ago on Is Legal Pot Crippling the Cartels?

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@papasmarvin @SEAN SPOONTS(MAFIA) None of that answered my question.  Which was about the false moral equivalence that people like you persist in making.  You somehow manage to hold several contradicting ideas in your head at the same time and believe them all to be true.  That is to say;


Cheney is morally bad for not serving in the illegal, immoral Vietnam War.


While Clinton is a  moral hero for ducking service in that same illegal, immoral Vietnam War.


While Kerry is a moral hero for serving in the illegal, immoral, Vietnam War while confessing he engaged in actions that added to its immorality and illegality.




3 months, 2 weeks ago on CIA Torture Report: Why Was It Released?

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@YankeePapa @caseymac1944 And the Japanese were more fanatical than the Jihadis as well.  In Japan you had a suicidal death cult inside a major industrial state.  It started the war with 6 million troops under arms, 10 aircraft carriers, 12 battleships, nearly 30 heavy cruisers, thousands of planes and 120 million people willing to die for the Emperor on order. Near the end, they didn't have guys wearing suicide vests, but hundreds of ships, boats, subs and even the largest battleship ever built going out on suicide missions.  It didn't help them a bit.   In just under 4 years, it was all gone, the country largely laid waste, the population starving.  We rebuilt that nation in a form of our liking and choosing and today they are an ally, economically prosperous, pluralistic in government and de-radicalized in terms of their religion.


There is a lesson in that for us in dealing with the Islamists.

3 months, 2 weeks ago on CIA “Torture” Report: An Honest Debate?

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@caseymac1944 What they did in WWII in dropping the Atomic bombs was pick the lessor of two evils.  Obliterate two cities and end the war, or invade, obliterate the entire country and kill millions of them and lose a million of ours.  Today, many people lack moral clarity, let alone moral certainty about what is right and wrong.  That partially underlies the criticism of enhanced interrogation techniques expressed here; "


"We're just as bad as them if we do this"  -No we aren't.  We aren't torturing innocent civilians and videotaping it for propaganda.  We are doing this to the people planning and engaging in these outrages.   The Left engages in this moral confusion all the time.  A criminal butchers a whole family of innocents and they take up the cause of saving the killer from execution.  Saying society is just as bad as the killer.  What they can't seem to grasp from a moral standpoint is that the innocent victims, were just that, innocent.  Killed for kicks, money or just plain evil depravity.  Society isn't killing an innocent in putting a killer to death.  They are punishing him in retribution for destroying the lives of innocent people unjustly.


We are not torturing for kicks.  We are doing what we must to prevent innocent lives from being destroyed by evil.  We are picking the lesser of two evils.


3 months, 2 weeks ago on CIA “Torture” Report: An Honest Debate?

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@Coriolanus @HonestBroker247 I think I big part of the problem is that civilians, without ANY background or exposure to the vast number interrogation techniques employed,still believe they are the arbiters of what works and what doesn't.  They're way out of their lane.

3 months, 2 weeks ago on CIA “Torture” Report: An Honest Debate?

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@HonestBroker247 @SEAN SPOONTS(MAFIA) When I went to SERE you signed a waiver holding the military harmless from harm that could come to you in that training. So that isn't a big deal.   And I agree with Waterborne on the Left's tendency to try and criminalize the politics of the Right.



Finally, there is no shield within US law that can waive extradition for international crimes against humanity.  We signed those treaties.  But don't worry, the Left isn't going to press for CIA agents and military personnel to be brought before the ICC in irons and prison jumpsuits.  They know they're unpopular enough as it is.

3 months, 2 weeks ago on CIA “Torture” Report: An Honest Debate?

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FDR didn't serve in the military and sent over 400,000 Americans to their deaths in WW2.

And please explain to me how this whole Cheney/deferments/Vietnam War thing works.

The left claims that the Vietnam War was this illegal immoral war that should never have been fought. At least that was the Left's defense of Bill Clinton's deferments. Bill Clinton sent troops off to fight in Bosnia, Somalia and Iraq.

Then we have Vice President Joe Biden who is in the decision-making loop to send troops off to fight. But his five draft deferments in Vietnam aren't an issue apparently.

Then we get to John Kerry. Who admitted to committing actual atrocities and war crimes in that immoral illegal Vietnam War. And he was the Democratic Party's presidential nomination.

So was Cheney's crime that he didn't serve in an immoral and illegal war that Bill Clinton was justified in avoiding? Or was it that he didn't go over to that immoral and illegal war and help John Kerry commit more war crimes?

3 months, 2 weeks ago on CIA Torture Report: Why Was It Released?

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Àttention Liberals. May I remind you that the CIA is part of the government you have empowered to control your healthcare, tell you what kind of lightbulbs to use, how to sort your garbage and hide the salt shakers from you in restaurants unless you ask for it pretty please. Having handed so much over to the State in terms of your day to day life, does the government really need to take your feelings about the moral, legal and ethical considerations of the treatment of foreign terrorists into account? You folks cant be trusted with a salt shaker. Do you trust the government to run things and make the decisions or not? Lets us know when you decide.

3 months, 2 weeks ago on CIA “Torture” Report: An Honest Debate?

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If the soldier's footwear covers the ankle and has a distinct heel attached to the sole made of leather or wood,, it is by definition "A boot" and not a shoe.

3 months, 2 weeks ago on A Soldier’s Story: From the Revolutionary War to OIF

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Just released from Pew: "Being kind to terrorists during interrogations" ranks 1,564,116th on Americans' list of priorities.  We got our $40 million dollars worth didn't we?

3 months, 2 weeks ago on CIA “Torture” Report: An Honest Debate?

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@ConsummateCanuck The exception does not prove the rule.

3 months, 2 weeks ago on CIA “Torture” Report: An Honest Debate?

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@Kiyabear @Frumentarius China has murdered upwards of 20 million of their own citizens for concerns related to 'national security.' That isn't even remotely close to what the CIA did in enhanced interrogations.  Your remarks strongly suggest that you look at the US and think; 


 "Because it is not perfect, it is not good."

3 months, 2 weeks ago on CIA “Torture” Report: An Honest Debate?

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@clluelo @SEAN SPOONTS(MAFIA) And ISIS declaring themselves a "state" and levying taxes and issuing passports might have something to do with them wanting their captives to be treated like POWs instead of unlawful combatants under the Geneva Accords.

3 months, 2 weeks ago on CIA “Torture” Report: An Honest Debate?

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What the Dems are accusing the CIA of are crimes against humanity.  Unless the Dems are also calling for those involved to be turned over to the ICC for prosecution they can just STFU with their BS chest thumping.

3 months, 2 weeks ago on CIA “Torture” Report: An Honest Debate?

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@Recon6 @Minou_Demimonde @SEAN SPOONTS(MAFIA) Let me posit this.  If Bush had not extended Lawful Combatant Status to these terrorists, they would have no legal status that anyone could bitch about.  The international handwringers could review the Tribunal proceedings for fairness and that would be about it.  We might not have even needed to torture anyone if we were in the position to say to an "Unlawful Combatant; 


"The Military Tribunal has found you to be unlawful combatant in this conflict because you engaged in hostilities on your own and not at the direction of any national authority, you did so without a distinctive uniform marking you as a combatant, and you were not acting under the responsible authority of a chain of command accountable to a nation/state government.  You have been sentenced to execution in the morning.  Unless you have information that could be of use in saving American lives, that is exactly what will happen. Think about what you want to eat for a last meal and I'll be back in an hour with your rug and a bag to put  your things in following the execution of sentence tomorrow.



3 months, 2 weeks ago on CIA “Torture” Report: An Honest Debate?

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