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@LawyerHandle  No, not talking about you.  Speaking in general.  There are strains of it here in some of the comments.   Just a few more thoughts.


1)  When the State executes a murderer it is reeling back the clock in a manner of speaking and meting out a punishment that the victim would have been legally justified in handing out themselves had they been able to at the point of incidence.  Society acts as the proxy of the victim in taking the life of the killer.  In fact, the circumstances of the battery can result in the victim rendering a legal death penalty on the assailant upon the credible threat of death or serious bodily injury.  For example, a victim with a gun being attacked by an assailant with a knife or baseball bat before a blow or cut is inflicted.  In contrast the State seldom(if ever) imposes the death penalty on a person for attempted murder or serious bodily injury done to another.


2)  You would have to go further in explaining what 'right' of self defense concept applies in a foreign country, to a foreign national killing an American citizen.  I suspect that Salam would claim that he was not subject to the jurisdiction of US laws or even Afghan laws but the laws of his tribe and the Koran.  I believe that under the laws Salam himself lived by(which included murdering women by conflagration) Ayala's actions would have been permissible.


3) As for Alayas state of mind, he seemed content to have Salam detained while Lloyd was alive but then killed him(mercifully) by a single gunshot to the temple upon discovering his teammate had died.  He did not take eye for and eye and douse him in gasoline and light him off, or torture him so I think those calling it a "revenge" killing are wide of that mark.


4)  The questions I asked myself reading the facts presented were; "Was that a Just thing to do to Salam given the circumstances."  To that I say yes.  Under our moral and legal code, Salam's cruel, cold blooded murder would have brought a death sentence down on him if he were tried in the US.  Which would not have occurred for jurisdiction reasons.


Next, "Would the Afghan system have given as just a punishment to Salam?"  Three things make me doubt that.  Lloyd was female, an infidel and a foreigner.  Islamist and Muslim countries are infamous for having laws that disfavor all three categories when the perpetrator is a Muslim.


Next, "Was the killing lawful under the laws of armed conflict?"  Probably not.  President Bush foolishly extended GC protections to unlawful combatants making a mess of a system that sought to punish(with summary execution typically) those who engaged in hostilities the way the Afghans do.  On the othere hand Afghanistan isn't a signatory to those conventions so its people aren't really protected(or bound) by it either.


Finally, "Was the killing lawful under the tribal and religious laws practiced by Salam and his people?"  I think the answer to that question is yes.  The Koran operates on the basis of retaliation to address crimes like battery and murder.  Actually, the Koran would have called for Salam to be burned as Lloyd was, Alaya was acting in a restrained manner by shooting him in the head.  Then again the Koran might also say that an infidel had no right to impose any punishment on a Muslim.


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@JohnChristopher1  You ask "How is this hyper-legalistic?"  Law expresses certain moral principles and the verdict in a criminal case expresses moral judgement.  Salam murdered Lloyd in cold blood, she was not threatening him.  Salam was detained while Lloyd still lived.  When she died, her teammate meted out a sentence to Salam that would have been perfectly just and legal had Lloyd been able to pull her own firearm and shoot when doused with gasoline.  The fact that her teammate acted as a proxy to lawful self-defense in an ex post facto way is mitigating in this circumstance.  He didn't immediately shoot Salam upon her injury but waited until she died.  The Hyper-legalism begins when people incapable of clear moral reasoning defer to a legal system(which in A-Stan does not exist in any form recognizable as Just to our way of doing things) as a way to posture themselves as somehow more principled than Ayala, who in my opinion did a morally justified thing in killing Salam.  Something which was entirely justified under Islam as well.

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Noticed something about "Gun Free Zones."  The exist on the presumption that if anyone has a gun in their possession they are more inclined to draw it and settle a dispute over a parking space or not getting a full thing of french fries than if they were unarmed.  The fallacy in this line of reasoning is that people who would settle minor disputes or inconveniences with a gun aren't really deterred from having one in those places.  They know they're violent which is why they will carry a gun no matter what the law says about a "zone" being "gun free."


The other odd thing about gun free zones is that as soon as someone pulls a firearm and begins shooting at all the unarmed people who think they are 'safe' from guns, a whole mess of other people with guns all show up and start shooting at the bad guy who broke the gun free zone magic spell. 


Is it a gun free zone or not folks?......



It seems to me that the people who promote gun free zones don't really believe in them either or the response would be Conflict Resolution counselors or Anger Management Therapists to help the killer with his issues of non-conformity and violent disposition, rather than a massive armed response.  

What gun free zones fail to take into account is that behind every gun is either the conscious intent to harm others or to defend others.  Gun free zones disarm those with the intent to protect others(or themselves) in favor of those who's intent is to harm others.  Simple as that.   The fact that gun free zones tend to attract people who REALLY want to harm a lot of people ought to be the best reason to do away with them.


Just a couple of thoughts on base security.  First, I believe it is a mistake for people to assume that base security measures are intended to protect the people on the base from a deranged individual with a gun.   In my experience base security was designed to protect the facilities, equipment and weapons located on that base from an armed attack, sabotage or infiltration by spies. That these security measures can also be useful in stopping a single attacker was recently demonstrated in Norfolk, where an unarmed civilian worker who passed through security measures designed to prevent sabotage and spies was finally stopped on the quarterdeck of the USS Mahan when tried to muscle his way past the security watch to get at a sailor on board who was seeing his girlfriend.  He disarmed a Petty Officer of the Watch and shot the NCO in charge of the section and was killed in turned by the Rover.  So it worked.  Not without loss of life, but probably with less than could have occurred had they not been as well trained. But, the reason he got all the way to the quarterdeck of the Mahan is because security was designed to stop Boris Badenov with a camera or a team with a truck trying to steal or set off a nuclear weapon in stores.


I think lawful carry on military bases could work if we recognized the unique character of service on a military base.  Here is what I think might work.


1) Officers could carry their issued sidearms openly after receiving training in their use and being briefed in responding to active shooter situations on base as first res-ponders in that situation.


2)  I would permit NCOs of E-5 and above to do the same thing upon their volunteering to accept such duty and training. 


3)  That training could be standardized and an entry made into the service members personnel file that could travel with them from command to command.


4)  I think this would only apply to shore installations and not ships at sea, but would apply to ships in port.


3)  I would not permit concealed carry for reasons related to the actual reason that base security exists, to protect facilities, equipment and arms.  If a foreign spy can obtain a fake passport he can certainly obtain a fake license to carry as well.


4)  I think the military should promote the 'culture of the gun' for service members and have shooting ranges on base and armories for privately owned weapons.  We had to beg to go to the range and shoot when I was in the Navy and I was a Aviation Rescue Swimmer, who was suppose to be proficient in the use of firearms.  The remarks about drunk E-3s shooting themselves in the foot with a pistol is not lost on me, but in most states you have to be 21 to possess a handgun lawfully anyway.  

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If you're own troops are subject to being turned and switching sides, I guess it would make a certain amount of sense to have some good ol trusty Americans to do your executive protection work.  Especially when dealing with the Russians.


They can offer advice to Ukrainian officials like;


"Don't drink that tea asshole, you're gonna get radiation poisoning"


Those Greystone guys will certainly stand out since they will have actually have things(like grenades and mags) in their vest pouches.


http://main.abqjournal.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/a08_jd_20mar_crimea-1000x717.jpg


Kinda cool that the Russians think 100 Americans is an army though.

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Interesting watching the comments on this topic.  I notice that there is a tendency to see "justice" as a process of hyper-legalistic forms rather than an outcome or result.  Was the punishment meted out to Salam(a bullet to the temple) for his cruel and agonizing murder of Lloyd a just punishment?  There is no reasonable doubt as to Salam's guilt in this, whatever his terrorist connections may or may not have been.

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@susanmarie24 @SEAN SPOONTS(MAFIA) @scummy  The Malaysians are asking that the boxes be brought to them so they can presumably hand out little bits and pieces of the data which they can then contradict and refute with new data 2 days later. Or simply say that no data was recoverable, which I think would be their preference.  We should say no thanks.  We found them, we're doing the recovery, Malaysians can consult.  


And it's very much on topic.

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@LawyerHandle  Yes, and to make the point further, who has any confidence in the Afghan justice system to reach a fair verdict?  On anything.  A Magic Mystery 8-Ball would do a better job than the Afghan legal system would.

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@Jaycel Adkins @SEAN SPOONTS(MAFIA)  That would be because of George Bush(presumably a hero of yours) changed the definition of "unlawful combatant" that we would operate under. 


In effect he granted the same protections of the Geneva Conventions to unlawful combatants as Lawful ones.  Which is something the Geneva Conventions were written to try and prevent from happening.  The blurring of the lines between civilian and soldier.  They were tryingf to reduce the mass slaughter of civilians who could not be distinguished from soldiers in a war.

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@Jaycel Adkins @SEAN SPOONTS(MAFIA)  I didn't say it ought to be standard operating proceedure, I just said that I thought the killing of the guy was lawful and justified under the GC.  Are you just playing the Gotcha Game again or do you have a position you'd like to offer of your own?


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@Jaycel Adkins @SEAN SPOONTS(MAFIA)    Well, if they don't enjoy the protections of the Geneva Convention articles what protections and immunities do you think they enjoy? 


It sounds like in this case you just want a trial or tribunal for show purposes even when there is zero doubt that the Salam was an unlawful combatant. 

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@LawyerHandle  And this President has an unannounced expiration date on everything he says.

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Art. 4 Third Geneva Convention 1949.

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@scummy  Kinda curious about a Chinese 'Coast Guard' vessel having a sonar suite installed on it that includes a towed array presumably.  Wonder if it might have been one of her subs?


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Under the laws of armed conflict Salam was an unlawful combatant who illegally engaged in hostile action with a member of the ISAF.  He had no protections under the Geneva Accords and was not legally entitled to the protections granted to lawful combatants who wear uniforms and act on orders from officers appointed by a national government.  I don't know why there was even a trial.

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MH370: Malaysia stands by sabotage theory as team warns of lengthy search


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10737150/MH370-Malaysia-stands-by-sabotage-theory-as-team-warns-of-lengthy-search.html


Two official sources, who are close to the investigation but not authorised to comment publicly, said there were three main reasons that investigators believe the plane’s manoeuvres before it vanished on March 8 were intentional.


First, the communications were disabled during the handover between Malaysian and Vietnamese air traffic controllers - the moment at which its disappearance from radars was least likely to be noticed.

“That is the precise moment to disappear an aircraft - that was what was exploited,” a source told The Telegraph.


Second, the plane’s unusual flight path - though little is known about speed and altitude - appears to have been programmed deliberately.


Finally, according to the source: “All the investigators are saying the same thing - there is no precedent in the history of commercial aviation where the sat-com [satellite communications] and the transponder have been knocked out and the plane continued to fly.”




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MH370: Malaysia has been holding back information on missing plane



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10736697/MH370-Malaysia-has-been-holding-back-information-on-missing-plane.html


"It's a vast search area," said Angus Houston, Chief coordinator of the Joint Agency Coordination Centre (JACC). "Essentially we do not have any precision in where the aircraft entered the water. And that's why, if we can find a piece of wreckage, some debris, we will then be able to narrow the search to a much smaller area."


Last week they said they had 'proof beyond a reasonable doubt' as to the location of the crash.  Now, they have no more idea than they did 3 days after the plane disappeared.

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On of my sources sent me these;


"MH370 Malaysia Airlines: Anwar Ibrahim says government purposefully concealing information"


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10743378/MH370-Malaysia-Airlines-Anwar-Ibrahim-says-government-purposefully-concealing-information.html


Anwar Ibrahm is the opposition leader who's railroading by the Gov't may have caused this whole thing.


Here is an interesting quote from the Gov't front man on the disappearance of the plane.


Hishammuddin Hussein, Malaysia’s defence and transport minister was criticised on Thursday for claiming that MH370’s disappearance was a “blessing in disguise” because its loss meant he now “understood the beauty of unity, the sweetness of having each other”.


So, once again the question that is the premise of this thread, does Malaysia really want to know what happened to this plane?

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@VP31DET  If you check you will find that our bombing of Japan's cities was permissible under the rules of armed conflict.  Belligerents are prohibited from placing legitimate military targets close to civilian areas.  Most of the Japanese military industrial complex consisted of small factories with less than 200 workers located withing civilian housing areas in cities..  That choice of location by Japan didn't make them immune to being attacked.  It fall on Japan not to place their citizens in harms way. 

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Goofy story circulating in the web fever swamp about the IBM exec on the plane using a cell phone hidden up his butt to send an all blacked out photo supposedly taken inside a dungeon in Diego Garcia.  I guess the photo shows the GPS location to be this military base.  Just a couple of things that ought to occur to the clear headed on this;


1)  Diego Garcia is overflown by Chinese and Russian SATs several times a day.


2)  Diego Garcia doesn't have a hanger that can conceal a giant Boeing 777.


3)  Diego is a multi-national base with US, UK, NZ and Aus personnel and civilian workers.  I guess they are all in on it too?


4)  A check of the IBM guys phone records would show any calls to or from his phone and the area code it was made from.  That would be conclusive proof at it is not offered.


5)  The person receiving the photo and message from the IBM guy is not revealed.  That too would offer a verification that could further its claims.  That is not offered either.


6)  Claiming that a set of GPS coordinates are impossible to fake on a phone after the fact is ridiculous.  It is very simple to use an Exif metadata editor to remove or change information stored with your photographs.  That includes changing the GPS location on a photo you took in the dark in your mom's basement to the end of the runway on Diego Garcia.


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@CasRdr76  Appreciate your comments in the spirit in which they were offered. 


I'm not sure that British administration of Singapore at the time of the 1950 riot makes much difference.  The fact that the UK administered Palestine doesn't really change the nature of the religious unrest between jews and arabs in the run up to Israeli independence does it?


As for the expulsion of Singapore, that occurred because the federal government wanted to impose discriminatory laws that favored Muslim Malaysians at the expense of Chinese Catholics.  The Chinese Catholics were the majority in Singapore whereas the Muslim Malays were the majority everywhere else.  That doesn't speak against religious and racial strife in Malaysia does it?



 My point was that Malaysia had a long history of racial and religious violence.  Is it your point that it doesn't?

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@scummy  Thank you brother.  Still don't have the conclusive Mad Man on this story yet, but we are working on it.

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@Recon6 @SEAN SPOONTS(MAFIA)  Many thanks, but I think 70k page views on this story is reward enough.

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Malaysian Magic Show releases another version of a parsed transcript.


http://abcnews.go.com/International/page/malaysia-officials-release-transcript-flight-370-communication-23138744


What is still missing are the communications between Kuala Lumpur and the other aircraft they asked to try and raise MH 370 by radio and KL ATC's notice that MH 370s flight information transponder had been switched off(if they even noticed it).

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The Washington Post is starting to catch up on the political situation in Malaysia and how it might be related to the disappearance of the MH 370.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/03/31/malaysian-governments-problems-and-the-search-for-mh370/

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Family of Capt Shah refute Daily Mail claims that pilot was in emotional turmoil due to family problems in the days leading up to the disappearance.


http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/03/31/MH370-crash-Zaharies-family-and-friends-hit-back-at-British-tabloid-report/

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Latest intel;


Boeing is said to have been modelling various fight profiles for MH 370 at different speeds and altitudes down to 12,000 ft to try and determine the miles the plan might have traveled.  This has to be related to radar tracks that have not been disclosed.


The Malaysian Gov't is now claiming that the final transmission from the cockpit was "Alright, good night. Malaysian 370."  This is actually the more expected response meeting ATC protocols for inflight communications.  It also suggests that things were normal for the co-pilot in the cockpit 2 minutes before the transponder was shut off.


Claims that the Malaysian government had proof beyond a reasonable doubt as to the crash location have to be measured against the recent move of the search area 600 miles to the north.  It may move again in another couple of days.  Readers of this thread might recall my saying that the original search area had prevailing winds and current pushing NNW, which would mean the plane crashed even further south and the debris drifted North.  Moving the search location ever Northward strongly suggests the plane was flying at a lower radar evading altitude and therefore had much shorter range than the ACARS track claimed.


The absence of recovery of any debris supports the theory that the impact speed was sufficient to reduce the wreckage to pieces to small to be seen by satellite or search aircraft flying at 5,000 feet.

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@LawyerHandle  The source you offered below has the Australian official saying that the new radar data came from the Malaysians.

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@LawyerHandle  If the cockpit voice recorder has them talking to each other in the last two hours of the flight, you will know they were in it together.  My understanding is that the 2 hour loop in the digital recorder would record the last two hours of conversation before the mishap.

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@LawyerHandle  The question about them not requesting to fly together "that day" could be a parsed release.  How many times had they flown together before?  How far out is the crew assignment schedule planned?  Is there a regular rotation that would have put that 1st Officer on Shah's flight deck on a day he could predict?   Now, if they had said that another 1st Officer was scheduled to fly but came down sick and the co-pilot was a last minute change, that might prove the randomness of them being together that day.


The lack of political writings or rants against the Islamist gov't by either pilots on line is not surprising since they worked for a State owned airline and Malaysia is a rather authoritarian surveillance state which monitors its citizens very closely.


You'll get this as an attorney.  The thing that drives me crazy about this story is that simple things like "How much fuel was we carrying?  What was the take off weight of the aircraft?  Was it tankering any fuel to Beijing?  Did the Aussies see the plane on radar at any point?  What was the military response of Thailand, Malaysia and Australia when the plane was reported missing?  What speed and Altitude did the plane fly at.? None of that is being disclosed.  If the plane simply crashed because of a lone, disturbed pilot at the controls, what difference does if that information is given out?  It should make any. 


They are withholding for a reason.  The families of the American, British, Australian, French, Chinese and New Zealand passengers on board should file suit and see what they can turn up in discovery. 

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@JHR13 @LawyerHandle  JHR, I don't think Shah was a muslim.  


"Shah’s YouTube channel was set up in April 2010 and features videos related to atheism and rationalism. He also linked The God Delusion documentary with atheist Richard Dawkins. Shah subscribed to the Dawkins Foundation for Science and Reason channel, as well. Shah may not have been a Muslim at all, but an atheist."



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@JHR13 @SEAN SPOONTS(MAFIA)  Australia touts the capability of this radar coverage themselves.  What would be sensitive about them disclosing that their radar coverage worked the way they said it would?  


The only asses the Aussie are covering in this case is the Malaysians.

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Shift area shift North on belief that MH 370 was travelling faster than originally believed and expended its fuel earlier.  New location is 1250 miles West of Perth.


http://news.msn.com/world/australia-says-planes-checking-new-search-area

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The flight of 370 would have taken it right thru Australia's Air Defense Radar station on Cocos Islands.  Why aren't the Aussies disclosing whether they saw that plane?


The RAAF has 14 of 737 Airborne Early Warning and Control aircraft, a detachment of them is stationed at RAAF Tindal in the NW Territory which is within response range when 370 was declared missing.


http://defense-update.com/features/2008/july08/b737_aewc.html


It has a very sophisticated air surveillance system on board


http://www.northropgrumman.com/Capabilities/MESA/Documents/mesa.pdf



Is it possible that the news from Malaysia that they had a missing airliner that might have been taken by terrorists did not provoke any military response from Australia? MH 370 had the range to fly half way cross their country.  And they didn't scramble a single interceptor?  And their fleet of 737 AEW&Cs sat on the ground?  And their Air Defense Radar was off and they saw nothing as it flew South within a couple of hundred miles of the installation on Cocos Island?  Really?



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"According to the spokesman of Boeing UK, the lost Malaysian aircraft, a Boeing 777-2H6ER was delivered to Malaysia Airlines with four emergency locator transmitters back in 2002"


http://eandt.theiet.org/magazine/2014/03/flight-mh370-emergency.cfm

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@LawyerHandle  Given the reliability of Malaysian officials when they speak on the record, I'm dubious of them when they speak off the record.  


   There are some things about the claim that the pilot acted alone that seem counter intuitive to me.  First, if we recall events as they unfolded originally the gov't claimed the plane was on course and normal until it was handed off to HCM ATC, then it was reported to have climbed 10k ft  in a few seconds made a tight right turn and then headed West.  It was reported that the ACARS and Transponder were also turned off after the KL handed 370 off to HCM.  


     It was reported that the voice of the co-pilot was the voice responding to KL.  In that scenario Capt. Shah could have been the sole actor.  He could have asked his 1st Officer to go check on the passengers, go to the bathroom, flirt with the flight attendants, anything at all.  And then closed the deadbolt inside the cockpit and had things all to himself.  Put yourself in Shahs position for a moment here.  If you were him would you lock the only other person who could fly the plane and had knowledge of its systems outside the cockpit?  Hell of a risk to take.  He could organize the passengers to crash the door and he could fly the plane back.  I don't think Shah killed him in his seat.  He didn't have time.


     Second, the Malaysians changed the time line shortly afterward.  They then claimed that the ACARS was shut off right after the the ping check at 1:07 am and the Transponder some 15 minutes later, in between the time this transpired the 1st Officer was talking to KL ATC.  Under normal fight procedures the non-flying officer(the 1st Officer in this case) would have been in charge of the radios, the flight management system and other instruments while the pilot focused solely on the flight controls.  That strongly suggests that it was the 1st Officer who shut off the ACARS and transponder.  In the second time line modification the gov't said 370 began to deviate from its flight plan shortly after take off, something the 1st Officer should have taken note of immediately, even if he somehow missed the pilot turning off the transponder and ACARS 15 minutes apart and entering a new flight plan into the computer.  Its also something ATC should have noticed and told them to get back on their approved heading.


If one goes to the released transcript of the conversation between the 1st Officer and KL ATC you will notice something a bit unusual.  At 12:50 am 370 reported that they were at 35k ft.  KL ATC did not respond.  11 minutes later the 1st Officer reported again that they were at 35k and holding.  A few seconds later ATC acknowledged that simply by saying "MH-370."  Five more minutes passed and the 1st Officer radioed again that they were holding at 35k.  Again ATC acknowledged by simply repeating their call sign.  11 more minutes pass and then ATC hands them off to Ho Chi Mihn City ATC at 1:19 am.  Two minutes later the transponder was shut off and 370 never contacted HCM.   


    Now, going inside of all this, the Air Traffic controller is looking at a radar screen and judging the moment when 370 reaches the limits of its range so he can hand them off to HCM and forget about them.    Here is the question;  Does the repeated notification from the 1st Officer that they were at altitude suggest that they were anxious to be handed off to Ho Chi Minh because they intended to use that gap in hand off to execute their plan?


    After the reports of debris in the SW Indian Ocean were made public the Malaysian government tried to walk back virtually everything they said previously about that flight, including when the ACARS was shut off, when the transponder was shut off and the transcript which is missing a routine notice from ATC that their transponder was off and they needed to switch to their alternate.  All of that is calculated to remove the 1st Officer as a co-conspirator in this.    

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@Txazz @SEAN SPOONTS(MAFIA)  When the plane hit the water the ELT would sense the rapid deceleration and activate automatically.  One of them might have gotten a split second broadcast out before it was crushed in the impact.  They previously stated that none of the ELTs activated,  if they gave the freq it squawked at we could tell what sent the signal by the freq range, whether UHF, VHF, HF or ELT.

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@Motleynomad @SEAN SPOONTS(MAFIA)  I already have that answer. The aircraft was not disabled by a fire.

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@dralice1978  OK, first such a missile(if it even existed) would have to be huge to have the fuel needed to reach the 35k ft that the plane was at. 


Second, we have SATs up there specifically looking for missile launches from China and North Korea, they would have seen the heat signatures from the rocket engines.  We know the plane flew for some 7.5 hours after take off. Was it shot down 



 Third, I don't believe a non-nuclear EMP device could generate more power than a lightning strike which large airliners encounter all the time.  A Nuclear EMP device no matter how small would have given off ionizing X and Gamma radiation that our SATs would have picked up.


Finally, an EMP missile  with the power to disable the plane's electrical systems would have done just that, disabled it. Engines stopped, no ACARs pings.


As for the Diego Garcia thing.  The US would be complicit in an act of Air Piracy that involved kidnapping citizens from Austrialia, New Zealand, France, Malaysia, the UK and the US.  And go google a map of the island.  Do you see any huge hangers that you could stick a 777 inside of?


https://www.google.com/maps/place/Diego+Garcia/@-7.3103412,72.3949675,17134m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x249273fe6d69b0ad:0x3b3c07570eb0d1c5

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@Motleynomad  Can you explain why they could not have radioed a Mayday in 3-5 seconds or set their transponder to squawk on Emergency mode?  There were 12 other crew members on the plane and at least 8 fire extinguishers.  The plane also has smoke detectors and alarms and a fire supression system in the cargo hold.  Here is brief on just the fire suppression systems in the passenger cabin.


http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/articles/2011_q4/4/


Don't you think a fire that incapacitated the crew and passengers would have also brought the plane down within an hour?

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 "Military thought flight MH370 turn back was ordered by Subang, says deputy minister"


"The military did not respond when it saw an unidentified flight on its military radar as they had assumed that the air traffic control in Subang had ordered the plane to do a turn back,"


(Why did they just assume that the plane had been ordered to turn back instead of checking to confirm it with KL ATC?)


"It was detected by our radar, but the turn back was by a non-hostile plane and we thought maybe it was at the directive of the control tower," 


 (How did they know it was a non-hostile plane?)


"We do not want to make any definitive answers until we are 100% sure. Once we had the resolution that the turn back was indeed the missing aircraft, we immediately deployed assets to search for the plane," 


 (What assets were those?  Did they scramble jets to intercept the plane?  There have been no reports of any military response from the Malaysian military until this statement)


The map of the flight below shows the plane was navigating through way points.  This contradicts a statement a couple of days ago that the plane didn't made that left turn to the West shortly after take off.


Malaysian Magic Show, Act 2.



http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/assets/uploads/resizer/graphic_mh370_indianocean_150314_540_348_100.jpg

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What does Australia know about the flight of MH 370?    I can't see how Australia could not have seen this lone air liner flying into the SW Indian Ocean.  Look at the coverage of their Air Defense Radar System.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/JORS.svg/2000px-JORS.svg.png



"The JORN is so sensitive it is able to track planes as small as a Cessna 172 taking off and landing in East Timor 2600 km away. Current research is anticipated to increase its sensitivity by a factor of ten beyond this level. It is also reportedly able to detect stealth aircraft, as typically these are designed only to avoid detection by microwave radar.[6]Project DUNDEE[25] was a cooperative research project, with American missile defence research, into using JORN to detect missiles.[26] The JORN is anticipated to play a role in future Missile Defense Agency initiatives, detecting and tracking missile launches in Asia"


Why are we relying on the ACARS arc when this radar can track a Cessna taking off in East Timor?  Does this explain why Australia was sending search planes to the SW Indian Ocean 6 days ago to look at debris when the main search was still focused in the Straights of Malacca?


I wonder if Learmonth Airport is one of the runways Capt Shah had programmed into his flight sim at home?  Its nearly 10k feet long and could take the weight of his 777 on landing or take off.



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Got fuel burn rate at climb and thrust specific fuel consumption at cruise altitude numbers for the RB-211-884 engines that MH 370 had on it.  I think I can figure out how much fuel the plane was carrying to determine max endurance on that flight.  Beijing was only about 2500 nm on their flight plan but the crash location is nearly 3700 nm.

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@A7Dave @SEAN SPOONTS(MAFIA)  What if the pilot announced to the passengers that the airline informed him that a bomb was on the plane and that he had been instructed by the airline to fly to another destination and land, for them to remain calm, in their seats and that everything would be alright?  Behind that armored cockpit door he could tell them almost anything.  

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@Txazz  If they said what the frequency of that transmission was we could probably tell where it came from, transponder, HF, UHF, VHF radios or ELTs. 

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@Virginstateofmind   Yes, it would make sense,   It would have made better sense to take the plane in daylight and crash it into the Petronas Towers when it was full of people.  That is why I think it was about something else.

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