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He was an alpha male type that some are uncomfortable with. Just the kind of guy you need coaching the OL in my book.

22 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-122214/

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Not trying to be argumentative but don't we deserve a proven experienced OL coach like callaway??

30 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-122214/

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I would easily take Calloway as the OL coach. Tough as nails.

1 hour, 13 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-122214/

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IF Mike leaves, for whatever reason, there will be others after him just like there were others before him.  Sooner or later a guy has to be his own man, especially in coaching.  Mike is probably mature enough now to handle it.  Who knows--sometimes it doesn't work out very well.  Just look at Calloway.

5 hours, 22 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-122214/

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@ManOnFire no way I'd hire Inman to be any OL coach.  UGA deserves a proven, experienced OL coach.

5 hours, 32 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-122214/

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@JHD=Free Gurley hate to say this but if it gets rid of mccheapity, it's a good thing in the long run.

6 hours, 12 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-122214/

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@JHD=Free Gurley gotta change the board of regents first

6 hours, 55 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-122214/

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i think that with most of us the issue about losing bobo and replacing him, or any of the other staff members, is really this--it's not that we don't think we can find a quality, suitable replacement--it's that we are NOT confident that our administration and especially the athletic director will go all out to get the best of the best.  that has been shown over the years to have been true, so we're not making it up.

ultimately, I want Mike to do what he thinks is best for his career.  I can't be selfish about it.  If it were me, I might wait for a lower level ACC program--someone like Wake or Duke or UVA.  I think he'd do well at most of those schools.  there is just no recruiting in Colorado much. 

9 hours, 23 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-122214/

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@Sargent Shultz @SUWANEEGEORGIA (downwiththeNCAA) maybe he should say the difference between being good and great is administrations that bridge that gap with superior facilities, recruiting budgets etc.

9 hours, 28 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-122214/

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@JHD=Free Gurley or just hire frank calliendo to impersonate gruden LOL

9 hours, 38 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-122214/

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@dan765 someone start the UGA plane watch LOL

9 hours, 45 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-122214/

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@34Dawg the only way friend follows is IF mike gives him the OC job. 

9 hours, 45 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-122214/

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@DrTiki he's nowhere near ready to be the OL coach imho.  why should we hire someone who's never been a paid coach?  aren't there any qualified OL coaches out there whom we can hire?

9 hours, 52 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-122214/

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@Sargent Shultz according to john calipari, who has won it all, championships are won not by coaches, but by administrations who COMMIT TO EXCELLENCE.  It is an institutional thing with these schools.  They simply won't allow another team or program to have something better or more advanced than they have. 

9 hours, 53 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-122214/

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@DrTiki @JHD=Free Gurley @TXDawg there is never a good time to change coaches unless what you've been doing isn't working. 
coaches getting hired elsewhere usually is a good reflection on your own program.

10 hours, 45 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-122214/

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I'm sure there are many more examples of this than I am aware of, BUT only one time has McCheapity done a really good thing for UGA when it comes to managing coaches and situations:  last year when he held Grantham's feet to the fire after he wanted to quit right after the debacle against Missouri.  He was evidently very shrewd in handling that situation.


However, that doesn't mean much if you can't follow it up with decisions that positively affect the big picture both in the short term and long term.  This means managing salaries and keeping up with the Joneses sometimes.  If you're stuck in the 1950s with your salary structure and it's 1985, then there is something wrong.

11 hours, 54 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-122214/

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@DrTiki @SUWANEEGEORGIA (downwiththeNCAA) who knows?  i, for one, would love to have a head coach who spits fire when needed. 

11 hours, 57 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-122214/

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@DrTiki it is going to happen one way or the other UNLESS and UNTIL MB is named the head coach at UGA, which I'm not advocating in any way.

12 hours, 15 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-122214/

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Shouldn't richt be leading the charge on this and not one of his assistants?

1 day, 1 hour ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-122114/

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UGA's hiring motto--being other than the best is ok especially when it is cheaper.

1 day, 2 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-122114/

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@goatdawg @DrTiki outfit that thang with some dubs and you'll be rocking

3 days, 12 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121914/

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between now and national signing day there will be, as per usual, massive numbers of rumors and predictions flying around.


first off, the dead period is always filled with tons of rumors because kids change minds sometimes as their coaches move around.  that is just the way it is. 

secondly, until guys enroll and show up for class somewhere at some school, the rumors swirling around early enrollees will continue.  the truth is that today, on the 18th of december, there really isn't much time to see other schools. 

thirdly, and this may be the biggest thing of all---I cannot control any of this whatsoever.  therefore, it would behoove me in a significant way not to get upset about stuff.  we all know what can and does happen around national signing day.  there are tons of flips that happen.  some we win, and some we will lose. 

I would not put it past pruitt especially to pull a rabbit out of his hat very late in the process.  that's just how he works the system.  he is aggressive and kids love that attention, especially late in the season. 

Love all of y'all a lot, and FSF is a special place where middle aged men like me can swap stories and have some clean, old fashioned fun. 

4 days, 4 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121814/

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@ManOnFire that's not a family--that's an infield.

4 days, 7 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121814/

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@WalktheDawg Whisky  @SUWANEEGEORGIA (downwiththeNCAA) @AzzKckrUGA-Just Damn Pay Bobo! if i were going to build a parking deck at my bidness, i might call him.  he has NEVER coached at any level and has never recruited.  lacking those 2 things is NOT a recipe for coaching success if you axe me.

4 days, 10 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121814/

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@AzzKckrUGA-Just Damn Pay Bobo! @DrTiki @SUWANEEGEORGIA (downwiththeNCAA) the employees of the AA still are covered under state of georgia benefits programs and retirement so they must be state employees. 

this is precisely why this stuff MUST be changed from the top down. 

4 days, 11 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121814/

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listening to the podcast from last night (BTW very entertaining LOL), there are some things that clearly must happen:


athletic board must be replaced with people who have athletics at the top of their priority list.


greg mccheapity must be replaced.  We need and deserve an AD who is interested in winning championship titles in every sport that we fund.  anything less than that is simply mediocrity and something that UGA doesn't deserve.


I said it last year when michael adams announced his retirement---jere morehead was a handpicked person by adams himself.  he picked him because he knew morehead would continue the practice of hosing the athletic department and preventing us from winning titles.  that's really all there is to it.


that means that someone has to get in the ear of the regents which means having an ear to nathan deal.  there should be enough influential political types who have the interests of UGA in their scope of vision to force these changes.  i just don't get why these boosters aren't flexing their muscles over this stuff.  


are they scared of deal or something?

4 days, 11 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121814/

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@CaliVisionz wonder if phyllis will weigh in on things LOL

5 days, 5 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121714/

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@WalktheDawg Whisky I will say this--when mike constantly says he wants to stay in athens, it gives the AA no reason to think he'd leave even if offered an upgrade elsewhere.  gotta play coy on these things because it IS a business.

5 days, 5 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121714/

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i know this is not mark's way, but in my opinion he should have plenty of well-heeled ($$$) supporters on the athletic board.  he should go above and around mccheapity to get this stuff done.  that's what saban would do, and you can take that one to the bank.

5 days, 7 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121714/

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maybe this is mccheapity's way of getting mark to leave the program so he can hire the man of his own choosing. hmmmmmm

5 days, 7 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121714/

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@JHD=Free Gurley and people wonder why i get negative sometimes LOL.

5 days, 7 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121714/

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@Bleudawg all I'll ever be is just plain old Bud Fox LOL

5 days, 7 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121714/

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dang, why am I doing this?  another thing about Bobo or just about offensive coordinators in general.  How many has Satan had since he got to Alabama in 2007?  He is now on at least his 3rd guy.  he's had McElwain, Doug Nussmeier and now Kiffy.  Has it caused Bama to lose recruits? no.  Has it caused them NOT to be in the national title picture most years?  no. 


Just playing the other side of things right now.  I like Mike and he makes us look really good most of the time.  He does have 1-2 games per year when we are either not prepared or not motivated.  I can't explain those very well.

5 days, 11 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121714/

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there are some proposing that it would be a problem in recruiting if mike bobo left for another job as a head coach.  let me caution all of us that we cannot make decisions based on what "might" happen.  all we can do it hope kids honor their commitments and work to make sure that they do.  i would not pay mike bobo or any other assistant $2 million per year to stay, fearing that eason would jump ship if bobo weren't here.  can't run a bidness that way.

5 days, 11 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121714/

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@DrTiki @WalktheDawg Whisky have you ever heard of people who get too cute and try to be too complex in their thinking?  sometimes you just need to have 10 plays that will work most of the time and that you can perfect.  complexity is NOT always what is needed on either side of the ball. 

5 days, 11 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121714/

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@DrTiki @SUWANEEGEORGIA (downwiththeNCAA) @WalktheDawg Whisky the bottom line is that mike has never coached a "national title winning" offense.  it's a resume enhancement, for sure, but it is a big one to many people.

5 days, 11 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121714/

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@TXDawg he didn't really do that much this season imho.

5 days, 12 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121714/

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@WalktheDawg Whisky I hate to do this, but it needs to be said.  in my view what mike bobo did while he was a player at UGA has ZERO bearing on his performance now.  There are 2 issues at play here--one is mike's overall performance as a coach.  the other is the administration's handling of how much assistants get paid.


some think it is wrong that pruitt gets paid more than bobo.  how many national titles does mike have under his belt as an asst coach?  none.  he has had some good offenses, yes.  no doubt.  he has coached some really fine players like stafford, aj green, murray and gurley.  no doubt.  but the elusive national title is the one that is missing.  yes, a national title is a team win.  i get that.  but he doesn't have one.  that's the bottom line.

pruitt has one as the DC at fsu and he has at least one as a position coach under satan.  that speaks a bunch in my book.


here's the thing people might conveniently forget about bobo and his offenses or richt's offenses.  there are 1 or 2 critical games every single year in which we just don't show up very well OR we make major tactical mistakes scheming and calling plays during the game.  these things end up costing us big time.  Flarduh and Sakerlina come to mind this particular year.


this doesn't mean mike is a bad guy, and it has absolutely nothing to do with his athletic legacy as a player at uga.  it's simply fair to assess him in this way as a professional coach.  results speak volumes. 

now, on to the athletic administration.  our administration down through the ages has always been more than a little late to the party when it comes to paying coaches.  first it was losing coaches to other schools because the retirement program wasn't good in Georgia.  then it was not wanting to sign assistants to anything but a 1 yr contract.  now it's not being ahead of the curve when it comes to upping the ante in paying assistants compared to what their peers are making.  mccheapity's job is a difficult one no doubt.  you don't really want to offer something that's not either asked for or demanded when it comes to salaries.  that might be foolish.  if a guy's contract is coming up for renewal, then that might be the time to discuss what he gets paid.  of course the exception to that would be when he is threatening to leave for another job which pays more. 

my personal thought on this is that if the threat to leave is real but the guy is leaving for a promotion and not just a lateral move, then you might consider letting him walk.  i'd hope that if mike or anyone else took a job with another school as a head coach that he'd be paid significantly more than being the OC at uga.  here is the thing about mike--his recruiting abilities are way up there, no doubt.  but brian mclendon is an outstanding young recruiter.  i was not sure about him when we hired him.  you just never know. but equally important is proficiency and accuracy in talent evaluation and development once the kid gets on campus.  schmoozing him and getting his signature are fine, but you cannot complete the conquest if you can't develop him or if you have inaccurately assessed his talent level on the field. 

whether mike stays at uga or moves on to another program in the future is not up to us, but I can guarantee you that there are others out there who possess tremendous talent in recruiting and evaluation.  i like pruitt's approach, but his isn't the only way either. 

 in closing, please allow me this--I don't care one iota whether or not we have any coaches who were players at uga.  that simply doesn't enter into the deal.  it is wholly unimportant if you ask anyone thinking with his brain and not his heart.  all i want is to compete for national titles every year, and it doesn't matter if our coaches are manny, moe and jack.  just get it done.

5 days, 12 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121714/

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The LB coach who left us to go to the nfl a few years ago--I'd consider that a step up. Warren was his first name.

5 days, 22 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121614/

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@Mike_Brooks14 tiki can do the circumcision if it's a boy.

6 days, 6 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121614/

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@ClassicCityDawg2010 @DrTiki @DawgtheDealHunter frank wren ought to be paying for that out of his own sorry pocket

6 days, 9 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121614/

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@RaleighDawg even though he might do some good things at the Barn, he won't be there long.  it is not in his history to stay anywhere very long.  his personality doesn't really lend itself to that imho.

1 week ago on Conversation @ http://www.fieldstforum.com/classic-city-cavern-uga-chat/ccc-121514/

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