SUWANEEGEORGIA (git r dun coach pruitt)
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SOC, thanks for posting Dean's article.
The one other thing I'd counter Dean, not you, with is this: Dean mentions Moreno, Lynch and Stafford--all who had over 800 miles to come to get to Athens. he asks the question why they would want to come to UGA. The reason we fuss about offensive linemen and not as much about those skill players is that we have had it proven to us in often painful ways that you win and lose on the line of scrimmage, particularly on the OL. Bama has proven that the last several years. I don't know whether they're recruiting or training better than we are or maybe it's both--but they're getting it done at a higher level than we are on the OL. If you have a dominant offensive line, it doesn't matter who the qb or running back is--you can still score and beat your opponent into the ground, demoralizing him in the process. flashy running backs are great for filling the stands, but i'd much rather have national title trophies.
13 hours, 11 minutes ago on
@TXDawg @Bleudawg@Socrates B. Kronasif our lines underperformed the last 3 years, isn't that even worse? doesn't that directly point away from recruiting and more toward competence in teaching and training the kids we do have? i'm just posing the question, not indicting will friend.
13 hours, 16 minutes ago on
@Socrates B. Kronas Dean makes a flawed analogy when he discusses offensive linemen who go to Tech. Tech doesn't recruit real OL because their scheme does not benefit from nfl size/skill linemen. nobody complains because nobody expects them to do anything much anyway. being the bellwether for football talent in this state comes with some expectations that don't go with anything related to Tech.
13 hours, 19 minutes ago on
@Richmondawg watson didn't win the starting job (no surprise to me) coming out of spring at clemsuck. to me they're still in limbo because whomever they choose as their starter will have no experience. they lost a good deal on defense. advantage UGA imho.
usc--dylan thompson is a good qb, but shaw was fearless as a competitor. he also was a real threat with his legs which thompson is not going to be. you'll see fewer time where thompson just takes off, and i doubt spurrilous designs specific qb runs for him either. he just doesn't have that kind of ability. that means that he's gonna have to stay in the pocket longer, which will be an advantage for us i'd think. they think they're just gonna reload defensively, but clowney is not going to be easily or quickly replace in any way. i'd think we'd have an advantage there as well.
14 hours, 5 minutes ago on
@ClassicCityDawg2010 he's getting there
14 hours, 34 minutes ago on
@DrTiki @Bleudawgthe only way this works at all is if the top 40 schools, regardless of conference affiliation, form their own super conference outside the confines of the ncaa. that way they can share in what they make without the constrains, stupidity and ridiculous bureaucracy of the ncaa.
19 hours, 1 minute ago on
@DrTiki I'm not sure they wanna be employees. what they want is to be students who get paid a king's ransom but who don't have to suffer any of the things employees have to deal with like being fired, having performance standards etc.
19 hours, 2 minutes ago on
@DrTiki @Bleudawg@TampaDawgan older man in our church had polio as a child and it is now coming back somehow. he is working through it, but it challenges him every day.
19 hours, 5 minutes ago on
another thing i'd do is buy my new associate pastor a new/used car. she drives a long way to church and her car is 15 years old.
20 hours, 45 minutes ago on
@DrTiki @SUWANEEGEORGIA (git r dun coach pruitt)no, not silly really, but it would be small in terms of the impact to me economically. it would hopefully help someone else out tremendously. i guess i didn't consider the silly part as much as the small part. if you won the powerball for $80 million and pocketed about $45 million of that, then sending a few kids to college would be small stuff to you (me).
20 hours, 50 minutes ago on
@DrTiki i'd pick out a bunch of deserving, hard working yet relatively poor kids and provide some education for them.
21 hours, 14 minutes ago on
i thought podcasts were always on wednesday nights. last night was tuesday i think.
21 hours, 26 minutes ago on
@J.H.D i may take that bet on seymour vs edoga. hyatt is too weak to tell right now.
1 day, 15 hours ago on
@Boi1der yeldon better get used to being behind gurley when it comes to the pecking order of running backs coming out after this year.
@WalktheDawg Whisky @Mike_Brooks14@Bleudawgwe did NOT lose tunsil because of a poor relationship with him. we lost him because Ole Siss violated their own policies and offered his girlfriend a bogus scholarship. his relationship with her was a little than ours with him.
1 day, 17 hours ago on
@newnandawg if he were smart, he would be going to stanford (assuming uga was out of it).
@GJDM = Gurley Just Did, Man @Bleudawg@Mike_Brooks14not exactly true. georgia is not a good OT state historically. we have consistently produced tons of guards and centers.
1 day, 18 hours ago on
@Mike_Brooks14 @Bleudawgi don't disagree for the most part. here's the thing though--i'd much rather take a guy who has the ability and have to motivate him to use instead of trying to get a less talented kid to do something he's not really capable of doing. sort of like the fact that you cannot teach speed in wideouts. you gotta take it when you can get it, and there is no substitute for it.
@DrTiki ding ding ding ding
1 day, 20 hours ago on
@WalktheDawg Whisky @007Dawg=Tuck Fech!!!!i don't care if they come from alaska. i am not hung up, in any way, on getting instate kids. people today basically have NO love for the instate school, no allegiance, no loyalty. people and families are transient and come to georgia having no tie to the state school. they know what they see on TV every week, and that's about it.
@TampaDawg @007Dawg=Tuck Fech!!!!Tampa, you're actually understating the numbers. In any given year, there are approximately 115-125 legit fbs quality scholarship fb players who gain scholarship awards.
@BirdDawg94 @SUWANEEGEORGIA (git r dun coach pruitt)@BPoin34i thought he was Mississippi Gulf Coast College
2 days, 17 hours ago on
@GJDM = Gurley Just Did, Man @SUWANEEGEORGIA (git r dun coach pruitt)@BPoin34ben jones was far from being a stud player in high school. he came to uga camp and garnered an offer based on a live performance. he was a good player at UGA, but he wasn't dominant in my view. he certainly wasn't dominant coming out of HS either from what I remember.
good guess though.
it was really a rhetorical question.
we've NEVER gotten a player out of the state of Alabama that either Alabama or Auburn wanted to any degree. they keep their guys in state pretty well.
@BirdDawg94 @Boi1deri could not agree more about the rankings. but there is an expectation that if UGA signs you, you should perform to a certain standard. i don't see that as being unfair. you're getting a full scholarship, tons of meals, clothes, trips, lodging etc. why shouldn't there be a level of expectation of performance?
here is a related question......if kids are not ranked against each other by these "independent" recruiting services, then are we to believe that the potential of one kid is identical to that of all other kids in that position group?
@BPoin34 ok. trivia time. name the last stud player UGA got out of alabama.
@Ricky "El Gringo" McDurden squab jones?
@DrTiki if i drove anywhere near Disgusta, i'd feel like a foreigner. and what I don't get is how such a beautiful place as Augusta National could be in such an otherwise truly ugly place like Richmond County. Just doesn't add up.
@Mike_Brooks14 @SUWANEEGEORGIA (git r dun coach pruitt)@Socrates B. Kronasit's always a wait and see even if the kid is an early enrollee. you just never know what can happen between the date of an early commitment (like edoga) and the day he either shows up in january (EE) or commits and signs the LOI in february. lots of stuff can happen. we usually don't stop recruiting kids.
2 days, 18 hours ago on
@Socrates B. Kronas the better question is where UGA is on their boards.
@Bleudawg edoga may be the very best right now. hyatt may have the most long term potential because of his technical abilities. don't know about Kim, but his first two steps are pretty wicked.
2 days, 19 hours ago on
@J.H.D i would not be surprised if bob sphire somehow ended up on the mizzou staff as a "program manager" or something very soon.
6 days, 13 hours ago on
@DrTiki or like last night we scored 1 and still won.
@DrTiki not reported anywhere in the US media I'm sure. they know that Osama won't do anything about it because he pretty much agrees with it.
6 days, 14 hours ago on
OK. it's officially time to bump jason heyward from the starting lineup. he simply has not shown, to this point in the season, that he can get on base enough to lead off. some might say we should move him down in the lineup, but why not give someone else a chance? the benefits of having him on defense don't necessarily outweigh having him batting .138 leading off.
@DrTiki drank himself to death.
6 days, 18 hours ago on
@DrTiki @TampaDawgthe braves have lacked a true leadoff guy since bourne left, and he had gotten bad about striking out too much.
6 days, 19 hours ago on
@Socrates B. Kronas who is training him on agility and performance?
1 week ago on
@DrTiki if we're ever going to put up a serious challenge to either Flarduh or Kentucky, we have to have guys like Jarnell Stokes who can get in there and bang with the bigger guys and hold up physically.
@HeelDawg to me NOW is the time for him to show what he's got. no long, imho, is it legit for him (privately) or us to use strength and conditioning as an excuse. wayne mcduffie didn't have near the S & C program we have now, but he got the most out of his guys. most of them weren't the blue chip recruits either.
@J.H.D cleveland===career sinkhole
@Socrates B. Kronas @SUWANEEGEORGIA (git r dun coach pruitt)when i was playing little league, i played for the same team 3 straight years. same coaches. i was a pinch runner and pinch hitter mostly the first year. no guaranteed number of innings or anything. next year and from there on out I was a starter. it didn't hurt me at not to play much that first year. you learn a lot from watching and listening.
@Socrates B. Kronas heck, helen keller could throw that much against a grantham defense.
I'm liking JP even more: he does NOT believe in giving out trophies for "participation".
@Mike_Brooks14 my bad. i meant mckenzie
1 week, 1 day ago on
@goatdawg wow. lots from which to choose..........
sanders (return specialist)
now that spring ball is over, there are approximately 100 days until fall camp ensues. This is the most important period for our team because they will not be able to have any organized supervision whatsoever. if guys are going to get better, they have to do this on their own. they have to be motivated. they have to decide whether or not the team will get better or not. it starts right now. hanging out playing video games and getting drunk are not good choices. use the opportunities you have to run routes, work on your agility training, study your playbook, get bauta and ramsey out there to throw you some passes. earn that ship. the offseason is the time to do it.
1 week, 2 days ago on
@Socrates B. Kronas @dan765it's just a different approach. what counts more--beating your own teammates that you practice against all the time in the spring, or drilling the fundamentals and basics? it's all about the number of reps you can get.
@DrTiki @TampaDawgbetween him and nick esasky
@TampaDawg first off, bj upton and Struggla were two gigantic frank wren failures. bad, bad decisions. i bet freddie would privately admit the same thing. i would agree with you about jason. the big thing is that jason doesn't cost us as much. you have to look at things through the prism of how much each player costs the team. that's what makes Strupton hurt so much. Between them they account for nearly $30 million every year. Jason, even after his raise in the offseason, doesn't make anywhere near that much and is playing for his biggest contract in a year or so. the braves dangled the carrot out there and showed them that they'd pay for superior numbers (freddie freeman for example). i don't think we keep heyward after his current contract is up. he simply won't be worth it. too much inconsistency.
i didn't see reference to said article.
1 week, 5 days ago on