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Quick question on the cap:If a player such Petri Kontiola gets sent to the AHL, at 1.1 do the Leafs: Have the full 1.1 M count against the cap, or dot he LEafs get relief for 950k and only have the remaining 150K count against the cap?
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I was hoping for audio. Reading sucks.
1 week, 1 day ago on MLHS in conversation with Dave Morrison – Part 2
@Bruffins @Cameron19 ...And second....
1 week, 2 days ago on Leafs sign David Booth to a 1-year, $1.1 million contract
@Alec Brownscombe @Fish Head To discuss moving Franson at this point... is difficult until post-arbitration. However, everything you stated is correct.
It's a gamble to save space and bring in an extra asset, hoping the overall performance between the players is not a drop-off. Having said that, Franson was no gem in our end and a player who doesn't contribute offensively and if equal or even more of a liability is most likely not even going to get dressed (possibly find himself playing @ Ricoh)
1 week, 5 days ago on Weekend Mashup: $2.2 million apart
@Cloud09 @Alec Brownscombe Isn't that what we do with Franny though?I can see from an asset management standpoint though if you re-sign then trade Franson and bring MDZ in it adds the asset from the trade and the asset of MDZZ comes in solely as a loss of the cap space you sign him for.Having said that, their on ice performance, it does make a difference in terms of whether you see MDZ as an upgrade, or if it's a downgrade that it's not significant enough to hurt the team and the asset in return can offset the loss on the whole organizationally.
@Ze_theLeafsFan @Burtonboy @Pent_House Ashton has scoring?
2 weeks, 1 day ago on Maple Leafs re-sign Peter Holland to 2-year, $1.55 million deal
Just noticed Matt Macina was an invitee to prospects camp. Felt there was an outside shot he could have been a leafs pick (because of being in Guelph). I saw him on a hot streak, he was able to steal away the starting gi for about a month or so, but looked really poised in that period.
3 weeks, 2 days ago on Bargain Shopping: Remaining UFA Forwards
@TheGroobster That will be $350/hr, please.
@Anthony Petrielli @BonnyHunter The real thing here as a note from capgeek is " trade may have voided clause." I am doubtful Buffalo is seriously doing anything but amassing band-aids to get through the season, and Gorges figures he'll be playing playoff hockey in 2015 as he's likely to be dealt at the deadline.Furthermore Gorges is a fan favourite in Montreal, and I don't doubt for a second he understands that makes him a traitor to waive to come Toronto, much like MacArthur understood the way to twist the dagger with a smile was not just to succeed, but to do it in Ottawa.
3 weeks, 2 days ago on Sunday Mashup: Leafs News and Notes
@Alabama Maple Leaf Bibeau graduates to Pro this year unless he returns to the QMJHL as an O/A player so that keaves 3 goalies (Spark, Gibson, Bibeau) in the minors. Gibson didn't get much time with the Marlies despite showing well (and drawing high praise from JML) and played most of the season in the ECHL. I think the Leafs are looking to platoon Sparks and Gibson barring a push from Bibeau in order to let the two develop.
@Alec Brownscombe @NotSince67 It kinda was. He was trying to argue fights don;t equal wins, and I was trying to point out I never once said anything of the matter, and he wouldn;t accept that I didn't write it.
3 weeks, 4 days ago on Maple Leafs Off Season: Assessing “Plan B”
@Alec Brownscombe @NotSince67 I think it woulod have been better if he left the thread standing OR deleted the OP as well. But he left his pot shot standing and removed the defense of it.
Bahaha, Gotta love AP.Misrepresents my point (need for an enforcer to not get abused/bullied) and then tries to argue vs I said fighting equals wins. Then when I've pointed all this shit out, he tries to interject we were bullied because we lost a lot of games. And then goes back and deletes all the comments pertaining to the thread... except his OP.It's telling when AP deleted the comment off the thread I made "Orr and FML played 81 games last year combined, they appeared in every game for the leafs on the same line. Fact." In reference to his assertion we got "bullied" all year (his term now for getting dominated in the actual play) with Orr and FML on the same line! (I sense a little hyperbole)What a joke AP. Do you delete all threads, or just the ones where your goal is to embarrass someone and they flip the script?
@Cameron19 Yeah. But I'm not sure that the roles in the bottom six mesh well. Specifically I think Bickell- Holland-Nylander looks.... odd.
3 weeks, 5 days ago on Maple Leafs Off Season: Assessing “Plan B”
@B_Leaf @Cameron19 Think again:http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2011/11/29/ring-the-gong-jeremy-yablonski-suspended-for-remainder-of-khl-season/
@RandomScrub Funny how much a calendar year make such a change. When Fraser, FML, and Orr were impacting games nobody was complaining, and many lauded the identity of the team.12 months later they all want to get on the populist bandwagon (again) and blame the 4th line.Love how you conveniently ducked the argument below when it was a little over your head. Never seemed to have a reply about the Rangers and Crosby and not having Engelland dressed for any of it.
@DJGLENN22 @NotSince67 My point. Engelland didn't play a game this playoffs. And what happened? The NYR mugges Crosby. The idea you let the refs police the game is why that was able to happen. You think Boston doesn't get away with murder night in night out? I'd rather be proactive about it and HOPE the refs protect us.
@Cameron19 @NotSince67 @RandomScrub @Gilbey93 He's no 20 anymore. A lot of guys (Scott Stevens for example) keep the mitts on once they've been in for a few years, aren't the toughest, and have established a reputation outside of having to fight.
@DJGLENN22 @NotSince67 So the Rangers mugging him was a non-factor?
@Cameron19 @RandomScrub @Gilbey93 @NotSince67 Cam, he's not even the one to mention Dion for that role. He's pointing out in rebuttal it's not part of his game.
@DJGLENN22 @NotSince67 Nine point in 13 playoff games this year? He won an MVP, but where was he in THE SERIES VS THE RANGERS.
@Cameron19 @NotSince67 @RandomScrub @Gilbey93 I would trust their opinion over your's. I also too have the same observation. But, whatever you feel is right I guess. I certainly don't agree.
@Cameron19 @RandomScrub @Gilbey93 @NotSince67 You'll notice the difference in how the 18 guys on the other team play when there's nobody to answer to. I agree, in the agree to disagree, because you'll never see things the way I do. But insinuating my fixation is with the sideshow is a little ridiculous.
@Cameron19 @NotSince67 @RandomScrub @Gilbey93 Cam, are you going to ignore it when just about every coach int he league has stated "those guys have a calming effect on the game" (aka they stop a lot of non-sense from continuing)?
@Cameron19 @RandomScrub @Gilbey93 @NotSince67 I think the Ph9 thing has derailed from my original point that this team without FML/Orr/Devane/Broll (in that order, toughest to softest) will get mugged probably 60 nights out of the 82 games. It's going to be embarassing, it's going to happen in the ACC, and we're not gonna have an answer for it or be able to stand up for ourselves.
And Clarkson will end up with like 15+ fighting majors and close to 200 PIMS for 5.25 M, and pretty much show up but not actually deter anyone in the first place.
@Cameron19 @NotSince67 @RandomScrub @Gilbey93 No, but someone was bringing him up as one of the guys to fight.And the reality is... He doesn't fight anyone tough. He ducked Steve Ott for a full season. Do you think he'd fight Lucic? no. So why pretend he would?And to be honest, his fight in the last two years are like Jakub Voracek, Chris Kreider, and Ladd. A euro,two non-fighters, and one guy who's big and strong but again, isn't a good fighter. And someone he has history with from back in the WHL.
@RandomScrub @NotSince67 @Cameron19 @Gilbey93 Whoa, Scrub aren't YOU the one who said Ph9 was one of those guys who can step in and fight to fill the void of the HW role?
@RandomScrub @NotSince67 @Cameron19 @Gilbey93 I wouldn't mind it. Unless he's getting pumped. Then, you're not helping at all.
@Cameron19 @RandomScrub @Gilbey93 @NotSince67 The best of those are middleweights, essentially (Clarkson being more of a light HW/MW). The rest.... Ladd isn;t much of a fighter, nor is Foligno. Horton is the quintessential MW power forward. It's a pretty thin card. Over 4 and a half years.
@Gilbey93 @NotSince67 @The_Polish_Cannon Too bad we didn;t dress Ashton instead, we would have made the playoffs... -_-
@SP16 @Cameron19 @RandomScrub @Gilbey93 @NotSince67 Nor is he willing, really.Unless you're a rookie, under 6'1 or a euro. Generally non-fighters.
@Cameron19 @RandomScrub @Gilbey93 @NotSince67 Anything over 4 or 5 funpoints yeah. Everything else is a hug or slip.
@Gilbey93 @NotSince67 @The_Polish_Cannon No, but do you remember what it was like after Belak and Kilger got traded away and we ended up getting mugged like we we being bullied for our lunch money. AND losing. This version of the team does not have too many guys who will stand up for themselves. They need a guy to do it for them.
@Cameron19 @NotSince67 @Gilbey93 They already are with the ridiculous misconducts and jumping in between two combatants eary (See McLaren v. Kassian.) It's a joke.
@Gilbey93 @NotSince67 @The_Polish_Cannon It does matter if you're not winning......
@RandomScrub @Gilbey93 @The_Polish_Cannon PRetty much every team in the NHL has a tough guy, good or bad. It's a big mistake not to at least carry on on the roster.
@RandomScrub @NotSince67 @Gilbey93 @The_Polish_Cannon Appeal to the masses is a logical error.
@RandomScrub @NotSince67 @Gilbey93 @The_Polish_Cannon Yeah sure. If you have player who can deal with the abuse. Look at Pittsburgh this year and the mugging took Crosby off his game, and he disappeared.
@Gilbey93 @NotSince67 @The_Polish_Cannon So if you have a fighter you can;t win? (The counter question to yours)
@RandomScrub @NotSince67 @Gilbey93 @The_Polish_Cannon Because the reason they won isn't because they didn't have a fighter. Can you win without one? Sure. But Detroit certainly took A LOT of abuse.
@Gilbey93 @The_Polish_Cannon @NotSince67 They also had 1 maybe 2 HOF defensman, one of the top 3 players in the league and Zetterberg makes a lot of peoples top 20.A lot of teams don't have that either.
@Gilbey93 @NotSince67 LA had Jordan Nolan (check his fight card: Gazdic, McLaren, Lucic, Sestito, Bissonette, all last season) only losses were to Lucic and one to Sestito (two fights) NYR had none. That's one team. Detroit is another. Pittsburgh is another (and was said that would have halped them defend Crosby vs NYR's muggings)
@Cameron19 @NotSince67 @Gilbey93 See, that would help. But that's throwing them to the wolves if you ask me. Devane got pumped by Kassian last year and most guys in the AHL ducked him last season. Broll is a big time hugger and doesn't scare anybody...
@Gilbey93 @NotSince67 So punching bags? Clarkson can fight a HW... and hang on and survive. It's been stated Orr isn;t coming back, and FML is the tougher of the two.Bodie has 35 fights and has won I think 3-6 of them. He's terrible.
@Gilbey93 @NotSince67 So what do we have? a punching bag who'll get mopped up when we need it?
@Gilbey93 @NotSince67 Really? Lucic is not a true heavyweight?Has lost one fight in the last 3 years to Dalton Prout and TKO'd Matt Carkner. Look at the fight's he's had an his win loss.http://dropyourgloves.com/Fights/FightCard.aspx?League=1&Player=14027Also, Chicago had Sheldon Brookbank.Also, I'm not sure if you noticed bu Adam McQuaid, Boychuck, and Miller are all very good fighters who are more than willing. Campell is a punching bag but he's willing, unfortunately for him.
Mark my words with Bodie and Clarkson as the toughest Leafs to draw into the lineup expect to be bullied around by Boston, Islanders, Sens, New York, Philly, yadda yadda.Everyone would like to think the fighter's role is gone, but John Scott is one of the worst in terms of hockey skills and he got signed early by a very good organization. Colorado has Bordelau. Boston has Lucic. LA has Jordan Nolan. San Jose just signed John Scott. Anaheim acquired Tim Jackman.The top teams in the league, a lot of them have guys capable of fighting at the HW class. If you'd like to stick your head in the sand and pretend that they don't (Oh, look at Detroit! Pittsburgh! Chicago!) be my guest.
Just found out Jordan Schroeder was non-tendered. I would think the Leafs would at least be interesting to adding him to the prospect pool with no risk. At a bare minimum it gives the Leafs an AHL centre to add depth to McKegg and Carrick. Also, there's the possibility of him developing further which would be a pleasant surprise.
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