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@phaneufoundlander That comparison is ridiculous.
1 day, 18 hours ago on GDT: Game #50, Arizona Coyotes at Toronto Maple Leafs (7:30 p.m., TSN4)
@Wilbur JVR can stay. Anybody who's overpaid or "old" needs to go.
@Xxxxxnew Not me. I was pleased tonight's game. That includes losing and seeing our younger players getting a chance to prove themselves.
Reilly looked amazing at times tonight! Pretty impressive considering the negative atmosphere on this team for a while now.
@rustynail Good on Horachek for sticking to his game plan and not panicking because results aren't there yet. It is not to be expected with this roster.
1 day, 19 hours ago on GDT: Game #50, Arizona Coyotes at Toronto Maple Leafs (7:30 p.m., TSN4)
@TheLoovTrain No, why upset!? This is good, according to plan. Lose games to pick higher. Play youngsters to give them experience and see who to keep
Granberg looked kind of lost I think, while not hurting the team either. Need more time in the minors.
@WesternDP @leafsjon Can't wait for that to happen. Get it done already!
Gardiner and Reilly look better when Phaneuf is not around...
@Leafer Which is good. Have you guys not given up on the season yet!?
@HHT Nothing he could do on that one.
I honestly don't see much difference between Phaneuf and Holzer in this game. Big body, slow, sometimes makes mistakes.
@Brozak That day was today.
2 days, 18 hours ago on GDT: Game #49, New Jersey Devils vs. Toronto Maple Leafs (7:30 p.m., SN)
@rockydundas @leafsjon @ProfessorRance @weekendwars @mtommy They were both signed long-term though, weren't they? How much will Franson really fetch, considering he is a rental?
2 weeks, 3 days ago on Leafs Notebook – January 13
@rockydundas @ProfessorRance @leafsjon @weekendwars @mtommy Whatever they do, they can't keep letting valuable players just walk away without return.
So Horachek has been hard at work trying to bring better balance (offense vs. defense) to the forward lines. Would it not make sense to do the same with the defensive lines (speed vs. physicality)? I'd like to see Phanuef-Reilly and Franson-Gardiner as the top two lines. Not sure which one would be the first line though! And Polak-Robidas makes for a good third (shut-down) line. What do you think?
@Cameron19 Unfortunately none of those pairings (3-44 or 4-51) are cut out for first line duty (yet).
@Bruffins @Cameron19 I'd like to see this as well.
@Cameron19 That's a future pairing I can believe in.
@ProfessorRance @rockydundas @weekendwars @mtommy It's unfair, and frankly not useful, to put Franson's new contract against Gardiner's. They are different kind of players. To retain Franson they most likely need to find a way to get rid of Phaneuf.
@Anthony Petrielli, it's amazing that it has taken years for the team to figure out how to find easy options for breakouts. It seem so obvious how to do it when you see it working. Carlyle is clearly to blame for not being able to figure this out, however, I have a feeling that some of our our skilled forwards really lack a basic understanding of good team play.
Maybe it comes with the territory of being a goal scorer that you just don't develop a vision for team play and defence? I don't know. In my youth, I was always playing on defence.
Also, being and brought up in Swedish hockey and soccer tradition, I was like many Swedes a pass-first-shoot-later kind of player. Maybe it is just a cultural difference, still I am often stunned how little understanding many of the Leafs forwards appear to have of the "whole game", not just sniping their goals.
@Cameron19 @leafsjon @Yaknowwhat Yes, you are probably right. It does make sense that the full 82 games of the season are shown in the graph, and 82 minus 66 is 16, as you say. Still I'd be interested to know whether Florida was 45% possession team also the season before.
@Cameron19 @Yaknowwhat 16 would be be a decent sample if you are correct...
@Cameron19 @Yaknowwhat 16? Really? The little wiggles on the graph suggest that the data points shown are less than 10 for sure. Maybe I am not reading it correctly. I guess you got 16 just by subtracting 66 from 82?
Nice write-up as always @Anthony Petrielli. The graph over Florida's possession numbers has a flaw regarding sample size though. While it is pretty clear the the long-term mean possession number after Horachek's hire is around 50%, prior to that there are very few data points, only 6 or 7. Sure, the jump when H took over looks impressive, but you can't make conclusions on just a few games as we all know. It would be interesting to see what the long-term possession number prior to H's hire (over half a season or so) was. Was it really as low as around 45% as the first part of the graph indicates?
I have a feeling that while much of the team's recent struggles fall on Carlyle, part of the problem has been caused by the fact that our core is constructed of some pretty odd personalities with, how shall I put this, lacking mental abilities :-) We simply don't have enough leaders like Franson, with well functioning communication and social skills and stable positive personalities. But, what do I know? To be fair, I haven't been in the locker room. They say Phaneuf is a good leader in there, but I just don't see it.
@hometeem @Cameron19 @leafsjon Me neither.
Speaking of leadership, Franson has really impressed me as a spokesperson for the team this season. He seems like genuinely nice and smart person, coming across really well in media scrums (unlike our grumpy captain). And the fact that he reportedly is communicating a lot with the coaching staff and showing keen interesting in learning and getting better with what seems like a positive attitude makes me think he'll be a great leader on this team, if only we can keep him.
Not sure Franson's hockey skills are good enough to be captain one day, but I really think there is not another player on the team better suited for a leadership role. If we lose him after the season, I think we wont be missing just his hockey skills, but also his presence in the room.
@Yaknowwhat Yes, it's all about process from here on.
@hometeem @leafsjon Yeah, maybe. I am undecided, trying to get used to, accept, that he is not a complete player, or person, and maybe that is fine, as long as he performs at the things he excels at.
Notably the team's "best" and highest paid player is not in the weekly leadership group meetings. Should he not be forced/encouraged to take on leadership?
@Mitch92 Because they play well now.
2 weeks, 4 days ago on GDT: Game #44, Toronto Maple Leafs vs. Los Angeles Kings (10:30 p.m., SN)
@rustynail Minus player. Goals in isolation means nothing. You win games by goal differential.
3 weeks, 3 days ago on The Randy Carlyle era is over
@Jimmie Dorey @leafsjon Oh, that sucks.Good point about Panik.
3 weeks, 6 days ago on GDT: Game #40, Toronto Maple Leafs vs Winnipeg Jets (7 p.m., HNIC)
@Wilbur Sure, but the reason we like them is because they are on discounted contracts. If we resign them they're gonna want lots more money. See Raymond last year. Would you want Santorelli for 3-4 mil? I wouldn't . Not sure he'd sign for less. As the Leafs are tight up against the cap they are going to have to scour the market every summer to try and pick up a couple of cheap deals like these, but unfortunately we can't afford to resign them if they play well.
I'd easily do it for 1 mil/yr. Probably at 1.5 mil/yr too. 2 mil/yr seems like a stretch.
How much salary would you retain to be able to trade Clarkson? 1, 2, 3 million per year? Let's assume we just give him away to another team with nothing in return. Is there any level that would make sense for the Leafs? Is there a team out there that would take him?
But I commend you for staying positive. Wish I could let go of this negative feeling. Yikes.
@Whalz Sorry to piss on the carpet, but the Leafs prospect pool i one of the weakest in the NHL.
@MadAtLeafs Not very funny.
@Leafs Fan 200 You are correct sir.
@hometeem @Yaknowwhat The Kessel hate is misdirected IMHO. He is an amazing top line scorer on any team. His defensive deficiencies should be addressed by adding players with compensating skills. It's a management/coaching problem at this point. Just can't have him play with linemates that are equally weak on defense (Bozy, JVR). Kessel is not the problem.
@Yaknowwhat Besides it would be more important to dump Clarkson, who is actually completely useless. Phaneuf could actually be useful as a 3-4 defenseman playing less than 15 minutes a night. He would be overpayed, but still better than the complete waste of money that Clarkson is.
@Yaknowwhat Not gonna happen. Nobody will want Phaneuf at his current salary, and we can't afford to retain a lot of salary. Management f*cked up.
@Mitch92 Kessel is never gonna be a great defensive player (and that is OKAY considering his production). Management has to fill roster with players to compensate.
It's not the losing that bothers me, it's that they don't even look good when they win. #nohope
@NotSince67 @RealLeafsFan Yeah, well, you are right of course. But it really is difficult for knowledgeable fans to be forgiving after years of mismanagement. Unfortunately bad contracts are given out like candy, and the frustration is directed toward players, which might be unfair. But personally, I cannot bring myself to cheering in rough times like these after have done so for years and years. No more.
@zombie27 @djamon Actually they are kids. Young people nowadays don't mature until their 30s (especially boys).
@peterbleafs @JWaterdrager @AlbertaMapleLeaf Kessel care most than most, that much is clear. He is an elite scorer (and a pretty god playmaker too) , but sucks at defence. That's fine in my opinion. He is not Crosby. Get over it. The team is lacking in so many other ways.
@Sparrow You are right of course, but I do have a good feeling about Shanny. Patience is a good thing and the little moves he has made and restructuring managements (Dubas, Hunter etc. ) are good. Hopefully he can do good things on the roster as well. We'll have to wait and see.