Spontaneous combustion...is that like love at first sight?
@TheTimeTraveller is the 12th Doctor ...That didn't answer the question XD
54 minutes ago on Kill the Moon Advance Review
So, here's a Kill the Moon review roundup so far:
Steven Moffat calls this ‘proper drama’ and he’s not wrong. It’s proper drama, proper old school sci-fi, and proper scary. It is also that rare thing in Doctor Who: completely unpredictable.(5/5) - Cultbox
It's barely worth hunting for the foibles in the case of Kill The Moon. It's tense, it's superbly executed, and it's the kind of episode that you skip to as fast as possible when you get the boxset home. - Den of Geek
If it's grown-up Doctor Who that you're craving then Kill The Moon is as close to 10 out of 10 as you are likely to find. - Warped Factor
Kill The Moon is very sci-fi, very horror and very personal - for me, already a modern day classic. And the best Doctor Who in years. - Blogtor Who
Well then...get hype!
5 hours, 43 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/062014/
@Master Michael Moon You think that of every episode for some reason...
1 day, 23 hours ago on Next Time: Kill The Moon
@ClaireAbraham @TheOncomingHurricane @Oliver J. "cool" No, he doesn't have a point. Because well, by his logic, The Waters of Mars is a copy of every DW base under siege story ever.
2 days, 5 hours ago on Next Time: Kill The Moon
I notice the theme tune on the trailers has finally been sorted, at our end at least!
@Oliver J. "cool" "Let's completely ignore what 'copy and paste' means" - a stupid and ignorant comment is born.
@Planet of the Deaf @Horus Killed The Moon Well, they stopped doing TV trailers after either Cold War or Hide. A decision which was really, really stupid. Name was an exception.
2 days, 23 hours ago on Doctor Who Series 8 UK Ratings Accumulator
And another thing, here's a list of episodes Time Heist rated higher than on just final figures:
The Empty Child
The Parting of the Ways
The Idiot's Lantern
The Impossible Planet
The Satan Pit (6.08?! I think that's the lowest rating of a revived series ep ever and it was brilliant!)
Daleks In Manhattan
Evolution of the Daleks
Blink (yes, really)
The Poison Sky
Silence in the Library (apparently 1.57 million more people watched the second part, WTF)
The Hungry Earth
Vincent and the Doctor
The Big Bang
The Almost People
The God Complex
Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS
The Crimson Horror
Nightmare in Silver
3 days, 3 hours ago on Doctor Who Series 8 UK Ratings Accumulator
@RUAZ When there's been a substantial dip in viewership in the middle of pretty much every series, this is a ludicrous argument.
@MatthewBagnall @TheOncomingHurricane You do realise it was not on against the X Factor in...either of those series?
@Smaragdkek I've often heard 'you' used in that context at parents' evenings before, it generally refers to either the school or the teaching staff as a collective, rather than the specific teacher. So, not necessarily.
3 days, 7 hours ago on The Caretaker Review
@TheBeast101 The collective, as it were.
3 days, 7 hours ago on Doctor Who Series 8 UK Ratings Accumulator
The fact we seem to have a stable viewership of around 5 million watching live while going up against the X Factor is hugely impressive, actually.
3 days, 10 hours ago on Doctor Who Series 8 UK Ratings Accumulator
@The Finn @TheTimeTraveller is the 12th Doctor ...You are a terrible person XD
5 days, 7 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/062014/
@Deus_Ex_Machina He said it was the only one!
5 days, 8 hours ago on Mummy on the Orient Express Synopsis
@Master Michael Moon No wonder the timeslot was moved! :o
@Americanwhovian It's an episode in a school, are you high?
5 days, 20 hours ago on The Caretaker Advance Review
@RoastNewt @Ladydetemps I hope you find something soon. I had a year of it between leaving school and starting uni. I found nothing, it was really depressing.
6 days ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/062014/
I know it's generally held that the characterisation in Midnight is perfect, but Jethro's parents don't seem to have...actual personality traits in the same way the rest of them do?
@Calebxy @TheOncomingHurricane @Mark McCullough Headcanon isn't meant to contradict actual canon. That's not what it's for. What you have is literally alternate continuity.
6 days, 1 hour ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/062014/
@Calebxy @TheOncomingHurricane @Mark McCullough Yeah, but then the theory works only works in that way if he's shot before the regeneration...and it still doesn't work because he was in no condition to get up and run away (or even survive the first shot).
@ClassicWhovian @TARDlSkey Well, Psi took the device and chose to change himself back, so the Doctor would just tell him to eff off and take responsibility for his own actions XD
6 days, 2 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/062014/
@Chris502 @TheOncomingHurricane I'm willing to let Forest of the Dead's pass because it plays with expectations in that it makes us think River could be joining the TARDIS.
@Ladydetemps Yeesh. Sorry to hear that, hope you find another job as soon as possible :)
6 days, 3 hours ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/062014/
I've been critical recently of how much some Next Time trailers (in the RTD era particularly) have spoiled. The Next Time trailer for Forest of the Dead is a rare one that gets it right. No Donna at all, after she's been 'saved'.
@ClassicWhovian Oooooooow. Cracker, if this is still going.
@Calebxy @Mark McCullough ...That wouldn't work. He was able to blast them out of the sky, why would he be retreating?
@ClassicWhovian Never cruel or cowardly. Amazing.
@ Notsosmartguy The new Caretaker. @TheOncomingHurricane You know what I want most...more Eleven and Amy stories. No Rory (no offence, I like him but eh). Heaven.
6 days, 3 hours ago on The Caretaker Clip & Video Introduction
@ Notsosmartguy The new Caretaker. @TheOncomingHurricane I want to see Big Finish make this canon. Get 'em those revived series rights!
So, instead of living with otters...why didn't he go in the TARDIS? Or did River lock him out of the TARDIS? Or did the TARDIS side with River and lock him out herself? So many questions...XD
6 days, 4 hours ago on The Caretaker Clip & Video Introduction
@TheCyberDoctor isn't a Lodger Personally I blame Benedict Cumberbatch.
@Djornad @The Finn @Calebxy Some would say you're not far off XD
1 week ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/062014/
@MaraBackman @Amy says Peter Davison is the Thirteenth Doctor! No, it was shown to be incredibly flawed and biased.
1 week ago on Time Heist Review
@Picaro Negroni @The Tenth Doctor @Who is the Doctor A lot more time than you thought...
1 week ago on Doctor Who Series 8 UK Ratings Accumulator
@Ottoman14 @TheOncomingHurricane @TardisBoy
Let's take your twisted ideas about what is and isn't misogynistic, and apply it to race. Let's say that all black characters are written the same in a TV show. I am the one who says that they are all being written the same. You think that I am racist because I am saying it is wrong that all black characters should be the same.
My twisted ideas? Now there's a personal attack. And okay, it's an interesting thought experiment, though stupid and with multiple flaws. Firstly, I never called you misogynist (I really don't know where you're getting that from), so no, I wouldn't be thinking you're racist here. Secondly, I don't agree that all characters are the same, I think you're being deliberately reductive. And lastly, in the scenario, I'd be black. and I would still hold the same view. As a woman, I have nothing to gain from having 'twisted ideas about what is and isn't misogynistic'. Oh, and that's 2 strawmen and 2 ad hominems there, 4 fallacies for the price of one!
I think that way women are portrayed in the Moffat era isn't great. I know that Moffat is capable of writing female characters when he tries- Sally Sparrow springs to mind, the volunteer soldier from AGMGTW also springs to mind, but clearly he doesn't try that often. And actually, if you look at the way he interpreted Irene Adler in Sherlock, he took a character from the Victorian period and made her less modern!
Fine, but I disagree, and I still think you're blinkered if all you see is sass. As for Adler? Really, because she was a dominatrix? Well, in the original, her profession was seen as being no better than a prostitute, and 'adventuress' implies things as well. The story wouldn't work with her original profession because it's no longer applicable, there's literally no titular scandal.
If you're one of those people who are fine with young girls growing up in a society and not having decent role models to aspire to, then whatever. But don't you dare suggest that I am taking a misogynistic view. Who do you think you are? Do you even understand that most feminists agree that the main problem facing their movement in today's world are these over sexualised female characters? It used to be that women were subservient to men in the media, now it is all about women as sex objects.
Why on earth would I be fine with that? And again, you're making the suggestion, but now I'm starting to believe it. Most feminists believe that's the main problem facing their movement, not the systematic rape and murder of women? Citation needed. You're presenting a bad parody of feminism here and it's laughable.
1 week, 1 day ago on Time Heist Review
@LordMalkovich @TheOncomingHurricane I see your point, however, out of all the costume choices they had, I think it's a tad boring that they chose a bland business suit, again. Why not an oriental gown or something? I understand how the suit sends a clear message about her character but it just irks me that they can't make the extraterrestrial people in Who less 21st century-western-businessperson-looking.
Most likely it's to save time for actual plot and character moments, by giving the audience something familiar it avoids unnecessary lines. I'm not saying that's right, just that it saves time.
Good point well made. However I'm not saying Moffat/Thompson are responsible for the bland costume design, more that WHOEVER is in charge of it could have been more inspired. The look has just been really overdone for me personally (and probably for others). Clint's point maybe spurious but I can understand why he made it-many female villains (eg Kovarian) really haven't been fleshed out at all (including Miss Foster from the RTD era) and so the outfit just seems like a cliché now for the same sort of "evil superbitch" character
Ah, but Clint's point was that Moffat does use it as shorthand. There's no room for manoeuvre. There's no 'seems to', nothing.
She lets the Doctor free the Teller because she's too busy saving her own skin- no depth there. As for the "self hate", If I remember rightly she hates her clones, not herself, which actually highlights how she sees humans as disposable. All this reinforces her character as being evil and businesslike.
I'm talking about her calling him when she's 'old and full of regrets', getting him to set up the heist. I'm not too sure about the self hate thing (I might need another watch) but I'm fairly sure there's an explicit parallel between her and how the Doctor hates the Architect (which turns out to be him).
But you yourself have just said that the business suit is shorthand for a businessperson! So you yourself admit we're meant to judge the character on this. And FYI, not liking a costume choice that a female actor makes does not amount to misogyny.
Yes, I did. But I don't say we're supposed to judge the character on that, I'm saying that it's saying 'this is a businessperson'. It's entirely possible for Miss Delphox to have been a good guy, and have looked exactly the same. And yes, simply not liking it doesn't, but simplifying a character to it (which Clint does do) does, I'm afraid. I will admit he doesn't address it as harshly as some on Tumblr have done.
No, it just makes me ashamed to be a member of a community which so freely brands someone a misogynist and a disgrace just for a negative review.
Well, I was angry, but those points are addressed to the criticism and the review, respectively. I apologise for that not being clear. I don't think Clint is a misogynist, but I have been troubled by some of his comments about Clara recently.
@ClassicWhovian @TheOncomingHurricane Boys was fine. Baby ruins the tone of the speech because for an instant I can't see him as anything other than an Elvis impersonator XD
1 week, 1 day ago on Conversation @ http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/discusswho/062014/
@LordMalkovich @supermoff is your new lodger- I mean, caretaker. @Ottoman14 I branded the the criticism misogynistic. Because...get this, it was!
@Ottoman14 @TheOncomingHurricane @TardisBoy I never called you sexist, stop inventing accusations. I said that it was a reductive view, and one I'm personally offended by; as there is not a fictional character I identify with more than Amy Pond, and there are a number of others created by Moffat among my favourites.
No, I have not studied feminism as an ideology, simply because it's not the academic path I went down but I do tend to read a lot about it and I'm always interested in reading more. Though I didn't read anything about ridiculous ad hominems, or indeed policing other women, do tell me where I might find this.
@ClassicWhovian To Save the Doctor was just such a pleasing moment. Take it all was good, but perhaps the worst of the big Eleven speeches. The random 'baby' does not help.
@supermoff is your new lodger- I mean, caretaker. @Marty Mcfly (definitely not The Lazy Cat) She doesn't even go here!
@doctorwhotvuk Well, the Mail got up in arms over Winston Churchill being called a racist and a white supremacist, both of which are true, so :\
@ClassicWhovian The Time of the Doctor, for me.
@Master Michael Moon @The Finn ...Eh?
@Ottoman14 I've never seen so many strawmen. Are you Son of Mine?
@ Notsosmartguy The new Caretaker. @supermoff is your new lodger- I mean, caretaker. @gunslinger19 You summed them up in one word!
@ Notsosmartguy The new Caretaker. @Switcharoo 'How many articles will it take to convince people.'
When you have DWTV reviews regurgitating the tired "logic" of STFU Moffat crowd, a lot more.
@supermoff is your new lodger- I mean, caretaker. @TheOncomingHurricane @Switcharoo It's what I do ;)
@LordMalkovich @TheOncomingHurricane She's a banker, but she's from another planet- why can't they choose some different costume other than a business suit?
You may as well ask why the Editor wore a business suit - it's visual shorthand for a businessperson, surprisingly enough.
And why are you talking about what's in the script? That doesn't matter, what matters was what was onscreen. You can't say "how dare you say that emotional moment isn't touching, it says in the script that it's touching!".
I'm talking about what's in the script because it actively refutes Clint's point. He says Moffat uses appearance as shorthand for a particular character type. When the shorthand isn't even there, this becomes less of a spurious assertion and more an outright lie.
And how is he blaming the actor for how she looks? He isn't saying her face isn't right, he's saying the business suit look is boring and overused. And tell me, how deeply was she characterised? She was characterised as an evil businesswoman. Nothing else- all her actions stress this; the souping, the clone killing, she had no depth. I fail to see how Clint is being misogynistic.
Well, the business suit look has only been used 3 times on female villains, 2 of which were on Earth, only one of which was certain to have been written by Moffat (and one definitely wasn't) so the overuse claim is dodgy to begin with. And no, she's not characterised that deeply, but she's still not the same as those other characters, there are fundamental differences. And getting the Doctor to free the Teller and its mate, plus the whole self hate thing, those are supposed to stress the evil businesswomen thing how, exactly? Clint is being misogynistic by judging the character by what the female actors choose to wear in collaboration with their costume designer.
So for you to label his negative review a "disgrace"? Ridiculous. It makes me ashamed how your post got 20 upvotes.
It makes you ashamed that my post got 20 upvotes? Are you partly responsible then? Because that's the only way you can be ashamed and have that sentence make any sense.