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Israel and Indonesia should establish diplomatic relations. Israel has diplomatic relations with numerous Muslim nations, so why is Indonesia holding back?
1 year, 6 months ago on Conversation @ http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/08/27/govt-use-israeli-technology-build-roads-papua.html
@aubreyfarmer One can be Zionist, and not condone everything you claim. If Zionism was a mental disease, then the United Nations' General Assembly would have never rescinded their vote to declare it as a form of racism. Instead of viewing Zionism as a form of superiority, why not view it as a form of peace and coexistence. Why would both Israel and Palestinian Authority be in peace negotiations now, if it was only a form or superiority?
1 year, 7 months ago on Access denied | The Cable
@wayneweeone @NoNonsense Does this college dropout speak Arabic? Does she have access to Syrian military communications, and understand what they say? Sounds to me, that she just makes everything up and she goes along.
@NoNonsense I think the United States, Great Britain, and France have more sophisticated intelligence, to know who the real culprit is. Bozo the Clown could agree with Pamela Geller. In fact, she is not even allowed into Great Britain.
@aubreyfarmer I am a Zionist Jew, and I do not hate anything Arab or Muslim.
@WaleedNehmeh No, I am not Muslim. I am an American who has lived in the Middle East, and who speaks both Hebrew and Arabic.
@NoNonsense I do not hate Pamela Geller. I just think the woman is not a factual source of information. She does not serve any government post.
Knocks the wind out of Pamela Geller's accusation, that it was Jihadists. But with Pamela Geller, does not her cat cough up fur balls because of Jihadists.
The Palestinians are long overdue for elections. They were scheduled to have them in May 2012, but they were cancelled and never rescheduled. Also, a recent Palestinian poll shows Hamas having 20% of the support of the Palestinian people. Time to vote these fools out.
1 year, 7 months ago on Access denied | FP Passport
@talknic @rainintheface @RobertSmiley You said it Mister Psychopath Shingo. Sincerely yours, Timoshenko.
1 year, 7 months ago on Access denied | Foreign Policy
@talknic @Stra8tShooter @rainintheface @RobertSmiley Take your anti-psychotic medication.
@talknic @RobertSmiley No, Shingo, we do not have the wrong person. We have heard all of your BS before.
@talknic @Stra8tShooter @RobertSmiley Have fun talking to yourself, because no one is listening to you. Because you will just go on and on and on with the same crap over and over again.
@talknic @rainintheface @RobertSmiley Sorry Knucklehead Shingo, we have dealt with you before on the Foreign Policy website. You are sitting in the United States, and you do not speak any Hebrew nor Arabic. You just sit on the internet all of the time, just desperately trying to brainwash everybody on this website, with your outrageous paranoia. I can tell you are a paranoid schizophrenic, because you repeat everybody's last sentence, before you answer. No, you are not convincing, even if you have address lines to show used toilet paper.
@talknic @RobertSmiley How can you impersonate an Israeli citizen, when you do not even know Hebrew? Mister Retardo.
@talknic @rainintheface @RobertSmiley Now I know who you are. You are that sick nut Shingo. They actually let you out of the mental ward?
@talknic @RobertSmiley So these maps showing invading armies, are just all made up?
@talknic @RobertSmiley Shame on Israel, a nation with an armed forces made up of largely of civilians fighting a combined army of seven nations. Should Switzerland be chastised for having an army largely made up civilians. That is if you know Arabic, or are you a monolingual American?
@talknic @rainintheface @RobertSmiley Something that is not verbatim is do the Palestinian people even know that you even exist? Or are are a pampered American armchair activist, just handling the Palestinian cause by the comfort of the internet. Go to Gaza and see your starving children. Because what I dealt with in Gaza, was Doctors Without Borders, about the psychological damage this non-stop sectarian conflict is causing people.
@talknic @rainintheface @RobertSmiley Excuse me, but Israel's neighbors have offered large chunks of territory, in order that there be peace. No, it is the other way around, Israel gave back the Sinai to Egypt, in order that there be peace. Thank God, you do not work for the State Department. But I suppose in your narrow mind that the State Department is all Zionist controlled.
@talknic @RobertSmiley After signing the Oslo Accords in 1993, the Palestine LIberation Organization became the Palestinian Authority. So if Israel strictly stayed within the 1948 borders, it would have never been attacked? Look at the map by this source, and see how Israeli's border were never violated in 1948:
@talknic @rainintheface @RobertSmiley Do the Palestinians even know that you even exist? You claim to be a spokesperson for them, but actually you are a disgrace to them. Ways are being sought for there to be finally coexistence between Israelis and Palestinians. But you just want to huff and puff, and blow Israel's house down. Well, blame your hot air on Taco Bell:
@talknic @rainintheface @RobertSmiley The land that Israel captured in 1967, the Sinai has been returned to Egypt, under the Egyptian-Israeli peace treaty. Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza. The status of the Golan Heights cannot be decided until Syria gets a new and stable government. The West Bank, Jordan renounced all claim to it in 1988. Under Israeli jurisdiction, it is divided up into 3 areas. Areas A and B are both under Palestinian control and administration. Area C is currently under Israeli control and administration. The ongoing negotiations can decide that Areas A and B can become an independent Palestine. Area C can be decided if it becomes part of an independent Palestine, or the inhabitants are returned to Israel. The Arab League has endorsed land swaps, so Area C could be involved in a land swap with the Palestinian Authority. As for Israel proper, then what are the radical ideas? Be like old and senile Helen Thomas, and tell them to go back to Germany and Poland. The majority of Israeli Jews are Mizrahim, without roots in Europe, but in the Middle East and North Africa. So clear these people out, so a whole new generation of Palestinians born after 1948 can return to a land they do not even know. Their grandparents houses would be an industrial park in Israel now. Handling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict does not involve turning the clock back, where everybody goes back to where they came from before 1948, but moving the clock forward so a nation-state can be provided for both the Israelis and Palestinians. When apartheid was abolished in South Africa, they did not force all of the South Africans of European descent to go back to the Netherlands, Germany, France, and Great Britain, they stayed there and created a democratic multi-racial South Africa. But still 86% of the land in South Africa is owned by South Africans of European descent. Because if South Africa did what Zimbabwe did, it would end up having 1,800,000% inflation rate that Zimbabwe has now. The white farmers that Robert Mugabe forced out were all welcomed into neighboring Mozambique. So forcing a people out, is not always the answer.
@rainintheface @talknic @RobertSmiley The situation about the roads applies to the West Bank only. No one is turned away from a hospital, even Ismail Haniyeh's brother-in-law was treated at a hospital in Petah Tikva. Road blocks applies to the West Bank only. A "price tag" attack tried to lynch an Arab youth in Jerusalem, but he was given mouth to mouth resuscitation by an Israeli medical student. The inequalities on the West Bank can be met, when it is made into an independent Palestine. Which is the purpose of the current peace negotiations. Inequalities are appalling, but must be met with constructive actions. We did not achieve equality in the United States by killing off all of the whites. Bishop Desmond Tutu is a Nobel Peace Prize laureate. But I have been in the audience when he spoke, and he can get quite emotional. If we want to deal with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, it will not be dealt with by armed rebellion, and the reason why is whenever there was an intifada, the death rate was 6 Palestinians to every 1 Israeli. Apartheid in South Africa was not abolished by armed rebellion. But white-minority rule eventually ended, just as much as Israeli administration over the West Bank will come to an end. There is an article in "The Times of Israel" about how Palestinians from the West Bank are spending Ramadan on the beach in Tel-Aviv. So it does not sound like they are not allowed to enter Israel.
@rainintheface @talknic @RobertSmiley Yes, they do have the same rights as Jews, because both Arabs and Jews have the right to vote in Israel. Apartheid is when they do not have the right to vote. At least I am not a hysterical idiot screaming out about something I do not know anything about. Because you do not even know the definition of apartheid. I at least my spend my energies on ways Arabs and Jews can live together, and not take sides, call the other side names. That is obviously too easy for you.
@rainintheface @talknic @RobertSmiley In Israel, 1.4 million Arabs are Israeli citizens. They live, farm, herd, and work. So were these Israeli citizens the victims of stolen land?
@talknic @RobertSmiley That Israel does not have a Final Solution Plan for exterminating all of the Palestinians. Because currently, the State of Israel is in negotiations with the Palestinian Authority. Hopefully, this time it will work for everybody's benefit.
@talknic @RobertSmiley Hopefully, you will trust Great Britain's "The Guardian."
@talknic @RobertSmiley You can always type in the address to the second article to manually bring it up. I pointed with the cursor, and it came up. Or is it a case of selective memory and denial?
@rainintheface @talknic @RobertSmiley I never voted for Ronald Reagan, but he was a two-term President of the United States, whether anybody likes is or not. I do not think any of us were alive when Franklin Delano Roosevelt was President.
@talknic @RobertSmiley Those children from the West Bank and Gaza are not being treated in Israel for hangnails.
@talknic @RobertSmiley I question who needs to be spoon fed?
@talknic @RobertSmiley @Jossef @Ruptin The Israeli-Palestinian negotiations are taking place in 2013, not 1952. In 1952, there was the Joseph McCarthy's "Red Scare," does that mean Hollywood celebrities are being blacklisted now? Ronald Reagan was involved in testify against those accused, but both Joseph McCarthy and Ronald Reagan are not with us anymore.
@talknic @RobertSmiley @Jossef @Ruptin So the 61,000 refugees from Eritrea and Sudan living in Israel, do not exist? A bill has been introduced into the Knesset, to review the status of these refugees, and determine if they truly do meet refugee status under the 1951 Convention on the Status of Refugees under the United Nations High Commissioner on Refugees.
@talknic @RobertSmiley As of yet, no Palestinian territory has been annexed by Israel. So all Palestinian territory is open to become an independent Palestine. Unless during the peace negotiations, Israel and the Palestinians agree to land swaps, which has been endorsed by the Arab League. Also, a hadith by the Prophet Mohammed states "You will not find faith until you love your brother, as much as you love yourself." When I asked an imam about this, he described "brother" as all of humanity. So have Hamas love their Israeli brothers. After all, Ismail Haniyeh's brother-in-law was treated at a hospital in Petah Tikva. The hysterical nationalism has to be swallowed.
@talknic @RobertSmiley Good information from the World Heath Organization, but not once in it, did this say it is affecting the Palestinians living in Gaza. It is a good thing John Kerry appointed Martin Indyk, because you play the Palestinians up to be Irish potato famine victims. As Ronald Reagan would say, "that was another time, another place."
@talknic @RobertSmiley @Jossef @Ruptin Why are we seeing two sides to the story?
@RobertSmiley Excuse me, the Palestinians are malnourished because of Israel?
The sectarian conflict between the Israelis and the Palestinians has to be dealt with on a factual basis, if the peace negotiations are to succeed.
@talknic @RobertSmiley @Jossef @Ruptin Gaza is no longer under Israeli administration, and hopefully with the ongoing peace negotiations, not all of the West Bank will be. Issues such as food and medical supplies, is strictly the concern of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA). Israel cannot put a strangle hold on it. There has been talk of an Israeli blockade on Gaza, but it cannot disrupt the work of the UNRWA. One of the demands, Hamas placed on the cease-fire last fall, was for Palestinian farmers to get closer to the border with Israel, and Palestinian fishermen to go out further into sea, for more fish catches. I am not a fan of Hamas, but they had a point there. Because all people must economically survive. Another hope with the peace negotiations, is that the Palestinians will be a trading partner with Israel. For when this happens, then Israel will have no need to put restrictions on Palestinian business entities.
@talknic @RobertSmiley @Jossef @Ruptin One area that is applicable is electricity. The Palestinians buy all of their electricity from Israel. According to the Paris Protocol, Israel collects all of the Palestinians border and excise taxes. If the Palestinians do not pay their electric bill, Israel will withhold all of those border and excise taxes, until the Palestinians pay up. But Malaysia will do that with Singapore. Singapore has to pay for all their water and electricity it gets from Malaysia. Singapore broke off from the Malay Federation in 1965, because most of the people in Singapore are ethnic Chinese. So Israel and Palestine cannot have the same relationship Malaysia has with Singapore?
@RobertSmiley @Jossef @RobertSmiley @Ruptin No one wants Israel to be a bully. Hopefully, with the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations, no one will be a bully anymore. But nation-states with diplomatic relations with each other, and trade relations with each other. Already Israel and the Palestinians do over U.S. $6 billion dollars worth of business with each other, and there is great room for growth there.
@talknic @Jossef @RobertSmiley @Ruptin United Nations Resolution 228 was drafted after an Israeli raid south of Hebron, which at that time was under Jordanian administration. According to the United Nations' General Assembly it was a violation of the General Armistice of 1948, between Israel and Jordan. With the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian peace negotiations, Hebron would become a part of an independent Palestine. Israel and Jordan signed a peace treaty in 1994.
@RobertSmiley @Jossef @Ruptin Israel did preemptively start the war, and Moshe Dayan admitted to it in his autobiography. After Nasser ordered the United Nations Emergency Force out of the Sinai, then increase the Egyptian military in the Sinai, but 350,000 soldiers, Prime Minister Levi Eshkol told Dayan to do something about this. So as a trained military commander, he realized if Israel had control of the air, then it could fight the combined Arab nations armies. The Egyptian, Jordanian, and Syrian air forces were completely destroyed on the ground, and Israel was able to make the advances that it did, because these armies had no air cover. The story about the U.S.S. LIberty was that it was mistaken for the Egyptian Navy's destroyer HMS Bean (which it just got from Great Britain.)
@BearKlein I have spent a great deal of time, in Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. One of the organizations I work with OneVoice Movement is a part of the ongoing peace negotiations. The Palestinians cannot even begin to compete with the Israeli military. Whenever there is an intifada, the death rate is always about 6 Palestinians to every 1 Israeli. I have dealt with both Israelis and Palestinians who are sick of the ongoing carnage. They want peace. Let us help them achieve peace, and not have this dagger hidden in the other hand stories. Even the pragmatic Menachem Begin did do that, but the disgusting Meir Kahane did. Which is the reason why his Kach Party got eventually banned, and he got assassinated. Begin was a Likud leader who was given chance, let us give Benyamin Netanyahu a chance. Even though in the past, I have been critical of Netanyahu. But in politics, there are no black and white, only shades of gray.
@Jossef @Ruptin Actually, the land was owned by absentee landlords living in places such as Beirut. It was through these absentee landlords, that the Jewish National Fund purchased this land from.
@BearKlein @RafaSantos I depend quite a bit on Al Jazeera. It does excellent coverage of endangered languages, endangered species, and climatic change. It is a media that deal with humanity, so I would not compare it to the Gestapo. The Gestapo was very much controlled by censorship. I also depend a great deal on "The Times of Israel," and I am looking forward to the initiation of I24 News. Because we should all be concerned about the facts, no matter who is presenting them.
@BearKlein @Ruptin I have seen this all, with the Palestinians living in Lebanon.
@BearKlein @Ruptin I have seen Palestinians living in Lebanon, and no they are not living in tents. It was not until 1993, that they were granted exit visas, to both leave and return to Lebanon. In Syria, it was earlier, and they have all the social services that Syrian citizens have. But in both Lebanon and Syria, they were never granted citizenship.
@RafaSantos The IDF was able to bring this down with the cooperation of the Palestinian Authority security forces. Now these two forces need to work together on behalf of the "price tag" attackers. This was reported in "The Times of Israel."
@tamagawa_D9 @wpfairbanks I can remember during the 1960's, with school desegregation, and no longer seeing the "WHITES ONLY" signs. Many felt they had to armed themselves, to protect themselves from a population that was always seen, but never heard. I have worked with both Israelis and Palestinians in the Seeds of Peace program. What it does is that it brings both Israeli and Palestinian teenagers together, to find out they are both human. That is what is causing all this animosity, they cannot see each other as being human.