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@jfostergiants agreed with the 2nd paragraph and really just hoping that this small run against low level competition doesn't save Fewell's job.
Also--on the subject of younger players. What is preventing someone like Nat Behre from seeing the field even if its just for a handful of snaps per game? Demps and certainly Brown have done nothing to keep him off the field and no better way to develop a player then throwing him to the fire.
1 week ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/uncategorized/nyg-24-was-13.html
@RussWellen1 Yes. While it is an indictment of the Giants OL, it also goes to show just how good a back Brown can be when he is healthy. Guy always seems to get at the very least a few yards. Not to mention that hes a capable receiver and pass protector.
1 year, 1 month ago on Andre Brown Continues to Push Through Obstacles
@CommanderShepard Thanks. I can agree with your assessment and agree to disagree on the first one from Sunday. While I think that the pressure/hit from Cole caused Eli to clearly fall/rush the throw/side arm it, I still think he should have been a bit smarter with the ball. Whether or not he was hit in the head, or shoulder, pressure is pressure and IMO it led to the INT. Having said that the refs missed an easy one there.
1 year, 2 months ago on A Look at all 12 of Eli Manning's 2013 INTs
@Arthuro Wow-- Great breakdown on all of these. Really great stuff.
The one thing I will say with using timing the snap-to-sack and using it as an end all be all of "who the sack is on" is that it can be dangerous. Who says that he didn't first get pressured at 1.9 and was forced to shuffle in the pocket or try to escape leading to another defender getting credited with the sack some time after the 3.0 mark. While I agree it is a good rule of thumb it is also crucial the each play be judged on an individual basis by SEEING exactly what went on. There were a few like this in the Car game. Just using names as an example, lets say Snee gets beat and his man "gets to" Eli at the 2.2 mark and eli gets out of his grasp and just a quick second later, Beatty's man is right in Eli's face for a sack.
1 year, 2 months ago on Snee, Beatty and Pugh Stand Out in Week 3 Disaster
Yup, awesome work Andy. It may also be telling that Sunday was Blackburn's first start/significant playing time of the year. Even though word is that Jon Beason has been struggling greatly for Carolina, it seems to be of no coincidence that the Panthers chose to give Blackburn his first real opportunity against his old squad.
1 year, 2 months ago on Chase Black-burned
@CommanderShepard agree with nearly everything you said. While it has gone from bad to worse from games 1+2 to yesterday, there is no way that this team, or any team, will play like they did yesterday for the entirety of a season. No need for everyone to make declarations or jump to conclusions, lets see how it plays out over the next few weeks.
1 year, 3 months ago on CAR 38 NYG 0
@RussWellen1 And again. Pause any play where the Giants are running the ball in this game (and many other plays this season) and odds are you will see them losing the leverage battle consistently.
2 years ago on Week 15 Jump to Conclusions Mat Pt. 1
@RickH Good point Rick. Not sure there is a way to quantify WR separation (at least with the data that we have) but it is something we can look into.
@RussWellen1 Thanks Russ. Like you said--leverage. The Giants OL seems to get beat in that aspect in both run blocking and pass pro (see my notes on Boothe's "-" passing plays on the grade sheet). They lose whatever power they may have when they stand straight up, once they do that and the DL gets inside hand position and from there on out controls the play.
I understand it is difficult to execute ideal technique in the trenches in an NFL game, but at the same time it seems as though this unit lacks any focus towards technique and attention to detail (<---in contrast, read the portion of the PFF article that quotes Andrew Whitworth as saying they are taught the position "like a golf swing" Thought that was a pretty awesome analogy.)
@CommanderShepard Save some room for me on there Commander. I'm with you.
2 years ago on ATL 34 NYG 0
@Arthuro Great post as always Arthuro. And I just wanted to comment on the Diehl/Locklear thing. I am and have been with you on the premise that Diehl is a far superior run blocker and generally the gap between their pass pro isn't too far off (in favor of Locklear). However in this one BOTH guys played great in pass pro and run blocking and graded out as such. From the second Locklear got his opportunity he seemed to be foaming at the mouth and this showed on several run plays (including the 13-yard Bradshaw TD I highlighted in Jump to Conclusions this AM). In an ideal world both guys are playing excellent and we can use BOTH of them in an extra TE situation much more frequently.
2 years ago on NY Giants 38 GB 10
@RussWellen1 Maybe that is something to address down the road in a few weeks if the Giants have a safer "in" to the playoffs. That could begin w/ a win over Washington and a potential 3-game (and tiebreaker I believe) lead in the division. And while Nicks clearly isn't at 100% just yet (and who knows if he will get there this season) he is certainly getting healthier with each passing week and is leaps and bounds ahead of where he was earlier in the season. We should trust the Giants training/coaching staff to know what is best for Nicks and the Giants as a whole going forward...let's not forget they are the professionals. But yes, in an ideal situation (hopefully we get one of those for once) the resting of Nicks does sound like a solid plan
@Paddlepedal All good and fair points until the Carr comments at the end. Please--- we are all knowledgeable fans but let's be realistic here. If that comment was made as a joke then my apologies. Other than that, well stated.
2 years, 1 month ago on CIN 31 NYG 13
@Arthuro Good question. That is something that we can attack during one of the days this week or next. We are in the process of putting every grade onto a master sheet so we will be able to look at some grades and trends.
My guess is that we start to see a heavier dose of 94 (him especially), 90 and 91 spelling the two starters at DT and Bernard. Kiwanuka did an excellent job playing there in the SF game (boy does that feel like a long time ago) and we will take a look at that also. Maybe this will finally be the end of Kiwi at LB, especially as they hopefully get a healthier Rivers/Williams returning.
@Paddlepedal Let me reference you back to the Week 9 Ultimate22 review, which allows us to go back and document everyplay. In our WR write ups (done by Steve G.) it was documented that against Pittsburgh the WR/TEs alone ran a total of 19 short/underneath (small-ish) routes on a total of 28 passing plays. So there was a "small ball" option there on over 2/3 of the pass plays that were called. Here it is:
...as much as the play calling has been coming under criticism over the last few weeks it seems to me that the bigger issue is the execution over that time frame. The Giants are best when they use their “small ball” approach and attack the middle of the field with short, quick routes and then expose the defense for a big play or two down the field. The Giants have been trying to do this but just simply haven’t been successful. Of Eli’s 28 drop backs there where 19 short, underneath routes over the middle. That doesn’t include the short out routes that the Giants love to run as well. The gameplan to attack with the short passing game as an extension of the run game is there, it just is not being executed as well in recent weeks. TOTAL SHORT UNDERNEATH ROUTES: CRUZ-8, BENNETT-7, NICKS-3, RANDLE-1, HIXON-0.
I'm with you that this falls on the staff to fix what is wrong. And I agree for whatever reason, the team seems to be a bit drained. But I can't get on board with them being "physically beat up", at least any more than any other team. Sure that may have been the case in 06, but the rules are DRASTICALLY different now when it comes to practice.
This exists in the CBA---
» The league has also placed limits on the number of full-contact padded practices during the regular season. Teams are permitted a total of 14 for the year with 11 of those practices conducted during the first 11 weeks of the season (a maximum of one per week).
1 padded practice per week...at the most...and that only carries through week 11...
This team has lost their way, their confidence and their approach and the bye week couldn't have come at a better time----will be no excuses as to why they can't come out of the break with a refreshed approach. I hope for and expect that to be the case.
@ultimatenyg Correction: *defend Gilbride in most cases
2 years, 1 month ago on Ultimate22 Postponed Till After Week 9
@ultimatenyg Agreed. There is plenty to fix. And while I defend Gilbride the gameplan clearly needs to be re-focused, what that is? Not really sure. The running game needs to get back on track. But somewhere along the lines of the play that is called, an Eli manning check at the line, an Eli Manning decisions, a WR decision in our "option-routes" offense, the passing game is clearly out of sync and has really shown the need for a running game. Once things are back up and running we can really focus in on some numbers/grades from the past 3-4 weeks as opposed to earlier in the season when the offense was shredding teams.
@Arthuro I agree with you Arthuro. He has shown that he is WAY AHEAD of where any rookie QB should be at this point and he has the skills and the head to be a great player in the league for a long time. But to make any long term predictions would be silly as we ALL should know how quickly things can change in the NFL.
2 years, 2 months ago on A more thorough discussion of the exhilarating win vs Washington
@Arthuro Not to speak for Steve H. but I don't think Blackburn was the primary man covering Gordon on the play. I think that Blackburn, noticed that he had no safety help over the top from Stevie Brown and continued to run with the WR.
In regards to the chop block---it was a unique play in that it was a "reverse chop block" as explained by Mikey P. Usually the defender is engaged then the block comes in low. To me the key here is that the two blocks were not simultaneous and Snee cleaned up the airborne defender AFTER Bradshaw made the cut block. Agree to disagree though, it was very close.
On a side note, if you happen to watch the game again on DVR really try to see if you can notice Kevin Boothe on plays where he gets the wheels turning out in space, he really is an effective player in that manner.
2 years, 2 months ago on Week 5 Jump to Conclusions Mat-OL and LB
@Arthuro We aren't. That is my best opinion. Once we get him back we will start to get a better idea via the grades. From what I've seen out of Locklear--he rarely gets push in the run game and that is hurting us, especially since he is next to Snee, our best run blocker. Having Diehl (who I assume will grade out better in the run game) should be a big help in that regard.
The proof will be in the tape though....
2 years, 2 months ago on Trying to Make Sense of the Giants' O-Line
-Great points of review.
-It was written that he was the best RUNNER on the team, not best back (all around). He did rush for more yards last night than Bradshaw did since 2010. Bradshaw is a great football player but he isn't the downhill runner that Brown is and there is no denying that. It is true that Carolina has been a poor tackling team, but Brown was the one there to take advantage of the good timing.
-The pass that Cruz "dropped" could and potentially should have been caught, but that was certainly not an easy play (although I will agree it was one that he needs to make.) and I am having trouble recalling any other drops for him.
2 years, 3 months ago on Giants Handle Panthers 36-7
@Arthuro Thanks for the feedback Arthuro. Great tips. As we go along we will refine the process, including how to present the material. For now we thought it was important to get the grade sheets out there one way or another for the readers to have. As for the comments---see the way the o-line grade sheet was formatted, with the comments on a separate word document organized by play number. Does this make it any easier to follow the grades/comments?
2 years, 3 months ago on Week 2 Jump to Conclusions Mat-OL, TE, LB Edition
@RickH Thanks for the catch Rick.
2 years, 3 months ago on Poor Play Calling Can be Attributed to Poor WR Performance for Giants in Week 1 | September
@ultimatenyg Vachianno now reporting via twitter that the deal is for a 5th round pick, seems to be fair for all involved. Hate to give away a draft pick like that but now let's see if Rivers can play some football with a fresh start. I like it.
2 years, 8 months ago on Jonathan Goff set to leave, Keith Rivers on the way? | April
@Peter S. Furman @plektor
No need to attack those who are supporting a player who gave us his all for seven seasons...
It's also remarkable you are trying to find reasons why they "caught lightning in a bottle" and just walked into a championship.
THEY ARE AT THE TOP OF THE DAMN NFL SUMMIT.
THE LAST TEAM STANDING.
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, ALL THIS HARPING ON "LUCK" DISCREDITS THE HARD WORK OF THE TEAM. IM NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF DOING THAT.
As for Jacobs--, no one put him in the same sentence as any of those guys you mentioned so I am not sure how you somehow included Jim Brown in a comment in an article about Brandon Jacobs. Walter Payton? Barry Sanders? How do they even tie into the discussion?
If I were to say that Aaron Ross had a great season for the Giants would you reference us towards tapes of Deion Sanders? Darrell Green? Dick Lane? Mel Blount? I just don't get it.
Especially when the article/comments do not ever once call him great, exceptional or someone who lived up to expectations, but rather someone who was a proud leader of this team (although he spoke a lot of sh*t, he was OUR guy and he had our team's back) and always gave everything he had for Giants blue and will do the same if he is brought back. Sure he frustrated everyone (myself including) with how high he ran, but no one said he didn't. Sure he was flawed. Not once was it mentioned that he was great--in the class of the legends you mentioned or even today's top backs for that matter.
And to indicate that only Bradshaw " gives it all" is an assumption that you cannot make because all it is is just that, an ASSUMPTION.
But if were gonna look at it objectively then there is no denying that the dude averaged 9 touchdowns a season over his seven seasons. Sure we all have our own opinions, but there is no denying that any team would sign up for that total year in and year out from their big back.
My memories of Jacobs will always be great ones- the block on Woodson in Lambeau 1, the block on Ninkovich in XLVI, the big games against Dallas (he always had at least one per season) and just the way he never backed down from a challenge (sometimes, if not most of the time, to a fault) on the field or off of it.
So I guess if you can't sit back and appreciate the effort that this guy brought over seven years and two super bowl title runs then I do not know what else to say.
2 years, 9 months ago on Jacobs Always Brought it for Big Blue | March
@Arthuro What exactly makes it way better than Green Bay's pass rush???? Not saying it isn't true, but would love to hear some points made backed up by some statistics or facts.
2 years, 11 months ago on A look back through Twitter at the Week 9 matchup | January
And in response to "But the confidence is bordering on overconfidence, as guys like Boley mouth off and many like Rich start thinking about HOF instead of one game at a time".... WE ARE FANS!!!! It is our job and if you don't agree with that, it is our right, to talk about things like this. The mental preparation and the need to focus belongs to the players and team. The best part about winning the SB is the journey along the way and discussions and big dreams like #10 in the Hall of Fame are all a part of the journey.@ultimatenyg
2 years, 11 months ago on Packers Tip Their Cap and Call The Giants Their Daddy | January
Agreed about the drops. My point about the drops was basically my reaction to rumblings from Packers fans and others who said, great game....BUT the Packers had a lot of drops. 1. As you said, it has been a problem all year 2. As I said, plenty of them came as Rodgers was under pressure after the play had broken down long ago. @Arthuro
No need for game pass (unless you want to see the plays yourself), very simple stuff to follow and the bottom line is that they are very tough to stop when they run the counter because it plays to the strengths of their o-line and 27 (OL-agile, 27-tough to bring down when those wheels get moving) and does a good job of masking their weaknesses (OL-undersized, 27-likes to run high and dance at the line)!!!!
How do you do contain Rodgers' feet? Pretty simple (in theory) actually. The d-line needs to play the way they are taught to play from the second you put on pads in high school: maintain your rush lanes..that means that our ends need to find the medium between being too aggressive up the field and being too mindful of staying in your rush lane...
ALSO--as KC showed us when we looked back at the film, they often played man and rushed only four guys with a fifth rusher, a LB, who was showing blitz be responsible to spy the qb as well as cover any backfield routes that may have come after the back showed block.
2 years, 11 months ago on Giants Run Game Continues to be "Counter" Productive | January