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As long as the mainstream media can dominate with their outright falsehoods and deceptions, we have a problem. People who are basically honest right or watch or hear the media, and assume they are hearing facts. The are not able to realize that the media lies.
1 year, 6 months ago on Missouri Democrats Plan Gun Ban; Minnesota Follows Suit
Of course; the liberals literally CANNOT think rationally or logically. It is quite simply 180 degrees the opposite of the way their minds work (or, more properly, fail to work).
It's the 9th Amendment that states that all RIGHTS belong to the people; it's the 10th that states that all powers NOT delegated to the Federal government (~35, originally) belong to the States. Also, as noted in my earlier post, the Chicago decision "incorporated" the 2d Amendment into the 14th, making it a civil rights matter, i.e., it is illegal to violate our CIVIL RIGHTS to arms, just like racism is illegal.
State nullification; each and every state that is strongly SUPPORTIVE of our rights should pass laws 'nullifying' the Feds illegal laws. This is a legitimate legal power, since the States are ABOVE the Federal government, though most have forgotten that. See the 10th Amendment.
All arms and ammunition makers should refuse to sell their products to any Federal, State, or Local law enforcement agency, and the military, as well as refusing to supply parts for repairs. Let them sell everything to the PEOPLE. Lord knows we'ed buy it, given the shortages.
Since these are probably tracked (by keywords like 'treason'), rest assured you (and I) have already signed up. As it is, I ignore illegal laws whenever I can.
We are not being duped; we know this already. It's the Obamazombies who will NEVER get it; indeed, liberals (Marxist/socialist) are unable to 'get it'.
One thing no one ever mentions is the Chicago decision; not only did SCOTUS reaffirm the Heller Decision (with the exception of the four incompetents who should be removed from the bench for violation of their sworn oath "....to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic...."), the Chicago decision went further and 'incorporated' the 2d Amendment into the 14th Amendment, the Civil Rights Amendment. These proposals are direct VIOLATIONS of gun owners CIVIL RIGHTS; this is no different than racism. People need to start putting forth this information EVERY time some bunch of nuts come up with this nonsense.
No, the Second Article of Amendment does not allow the personal possession of Nuclear Weaponry of War Gasses. It was written to address the weapons carried by an INDIVIDUAL; firearms, edged weapons, etc. Since the later Canadian Constitution DOES NOT recognize (our Constitution does not grant us our Rights, it recognizes our PRE-EXISINTING God-given Rights, inherent, intrinsic, innate) the RIGHTS of the INDIVIDUAL (at least not the Right to be armed), it can in no way be said to be superior to the American Constitution.
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1 year, 9 months ago on Nullification Victories!
No, they just recognized that whatever faults one might think Romney to possess, he would still be infinitely better then the idiot in the White House. Our most pressing problem is the economy and over taxation and energy, and if their is one area where Romney can kick butt, it's in these fields. Also, he is not likely to be a weenie on foreign policy, either. Most everything else is a red herring.
1 year, 10 months ago on Three and Counting: Another State Considers Obamacare Nullification
No, Zoie, the alternative is to have the majority of states nullify it, those rendering the point moot. Also, while the Federal Government DOES NOT have the power delegated to them to pass this legislation, one would have to read the Commenwealth of Massachusetts Constitution, in case it does confer such authority on the state. Also, unlike Obama, Mr. Romney is smart enough to LEARN from his mistakes.
I was only relaying something that I received, but had not had time to check on; if you are familiar with Classified material, you'll know that a fundamental aspect is 'compartmentalization of information'; we don't always have access to everything becuase of our clearances. For example, during the 4 1/2 years I was stationed at the NSA at Ft Meade, I couldn't just wander into any office any discuss with folks their wolrk! Did not mean to mislead, and glad you COULD debunk it. Also, we need to keep our eye on the real threat - the NOBAMA administration and their evil plans to destroy America as we know it.
2 years, 6 months ago on NDAA: Open Season for the Police State
???? Say what? You have 'verified' that I am not what I say? Since you do not know me, or my full name, or my SSN, how can that be? If you don't aggree with something, that's fiine, but there is no need to be personal. Bob
I was not "not telling the truth"; I included a disclaimer because I had not as yet been able to verify it! Don't consider me untruthful because I relay something that I tell you in advance may not be correct (although I hope it is!). Bob
DISCLAIMER: I do not know if the following information is correct or not as I have not been able to verify it. If it is false, shame on those who would discredit the office of the President with this disturbing nonsence. However, if it is true, one has to question the integrity of the bureaucrats who have been hiding this from the public and it then begs the question: what else are they covering up?
Will Biden be interim President before the end of this year? VERY QUIETLY OBAMA'S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT AP - WASHINGTON D.C. - In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the group "Americans for Freedom of Information" has released copies of President Obama's college transcripts from Occidental College. Released today, the school transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship. This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama's legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, "Obama Eligibility Questioned," leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama's first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama's legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president.. Donofrio's case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama's citizenship or qualification to serve as president. Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama's campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. Attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter. LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON'T! Subject: RE: Issue of Passport? While I've little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York, Jakarta and Karachi? So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later? And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York, Jakarta and Karachi, what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration? The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama's citizenship a rather short and simple one: Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20? A: Yes, by his own admission. Q: What passport did he travel under? A: There are only three possibilities. 1) He traveled with a U.S. Passport, 2) He traveled with a British passport, or 3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport. Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981? A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list in 1981. Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport. If he were traveling with a British passport, that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport, that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967. Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a "natural born" American citizen between 1981 and 2008. Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better. If you don't care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then Delete this, and then lower your American Flag to half-staff, because the U.S. Constitution is already on life-support, and won't survive much longer . If you do care then Forward this to as many patriotic Americans as you can, Because our country is being looted and ransacked!
When will someone finally point out to the entire NOBAMA administration (hell, DC in general) that the Federal government has only a limited grant of powers from the states, in our Constitution, that they have no 'rights' whatsoever, and most of the 'powers' they exercise have no valid Constitutional grounding (the many liberals past and present on SCOTUS especiallly need the reminder). The Federal takeover, beginning w/Lincoln (far from being a hero, he was the start of our destruction), then Woodrow Wilson, then FDR, Carter, Clinton, and so on; I weep for the lack of knowledge of history in our nation's capital (or worse, their total disdain for it). If normal people like us can read the Constitution and history and ''get it'', why can't they? Feeling down, sorry. Bob
Again, it is not the positions occupied by those associated with it; it is the fact that 1) many have classified info that, obviously, will never be made public; and 2) more importantantly, thousands of these dedicated professionals who worked on this could not be easily silenced had they found incriminating data. Certainly, Directors of Agencies might follow such orders, but there are simply too many people to expect them all to be quiet. As I post earlier, Bin Laden tried to use plastique to bring down the Towers from the underground garages in the early 1990s; no doubt thermite residue existed from those attempts, BUT, since they failed, it only illuminates the fact that they needed the incredble force of jet liners to bring down the towers. That's WHY they came up with the plane plan. No pun intended. Also, it must be noted that various agencies 'listen' to terrorists (in a classified context). Their own comms show them crowing about their success. Not trying to be contentious, and I certainly think NOBAMA (brought up Muslim) is aiming for a police state; but the attack that was carried out that day was years in the making, for which, again we have a plethora of real evidence. It's the NOBAMA administration we need to worry about, not the previous one; he's the threat whose putting FEMA camps all over, and it's his liberal crew (Peiosi, Biden, Schumer, Feinstein, Van Jones, the current Attorney General, et al) that are our real threat. We need to focus on combatting them! Bob
I am not arguiing that NOBAMA and crew are aiming for a police state; what I am saying is that I and my wife hold the highest of clearances (TS/SCI). She works (high up) for a major federal agency; there are literally thousands of dedicated men and women who worked on the 9/11 tower collapse, and no evidence of thermite was found; it is not realistic to believe that all these folks could be silenced, certainly not my wife, who is a straight arrow devout Lutheran and too honest for her own good. No, 9/11 was Islamic terrorists in planes, pure and simple. (Of course, NOBAMA was brought up Muslim and Communist). They stated what they had done, so it's not a secret, nor can it be a conspiracy if they claim responsibility. Remember, Bin Laden was already wanted for trying to blow up the Towers from the underground parking garages in the early 1990s; there he used plastique HE, and that DID NOT bring down the towers, which is where the plane idea originated. (The wierd thing is that in the Arab world, huge numbers of people blame 9/11 on a Jewish conspiracy, which is just as silly). Because I was with the Naval Security group, and worked North Africa/Middle East/Iran for 8 1/2 years, and my wife is still at with @#@, I know far more about it than most, even though are knowledge might be classified.
Again, just like my other post, this is utter nonsense. Physicist and engineeers can easily calculate the force (Mass x Velocity) of the planes hitting, plus the heat of the J-4 fuel. The tensile strength of the beams and all other support structures can also be readily ascertained. No 'outside prescense' like thermite needs to be invoked to explain the collapse, nor, according to experts, no evidence of any such things were found. The conspiracy theories are just plain silly. (By the way, as to Security Clearances, my wife and I are both TS/SCI - top of the food chain). Also, there are far too many dedicated men and women, including my wife, who know details about this, most of which can never be shared with the public, and their is absolutely NO WAY you can keep literally thousands of dedicated professionals from speaking up if such a thing happened. You can only usefully post when you have facts; invoking wild supppostion renders your assertions meaningless.
No offense meant, but that is utterly insane nonsense. Al Quaeda took credit for it; we know in Federal Law Enforcement and by their own words what they did. I spent 8 1/2 years in the Naval Security Group working North Africa/Middle East/and Iran. My spouse is w/ a major federal law enforcemnt agency at a very high level after her career in the Naval Security Group. This is so far from accurate or true that no reasonable response can be made, since the assertion is ludicrous. It like a scientfic person (me or my wife, biochemistry degree) arguing with some Creation Science or Intelligent Design not; their premise is irrational and their thought processes unscientific; it's impossilble to deal with them, so don't fall into the conspiracy nut trap! Bob
@KansasBrightActually, President Bush DID NOT declare war; the Iraq war was voted on by Congress, and (with the votes of half of the Democratic critics of said war, Congress declared war. After 9/11, on 9/14, Congress overwhelming approved the current War on Terror. In neither case did George Bush unilaterally declare war, although the 9/11 attacks, by your own submission a direct attack, invasion, and declaration of war against America, Bush could have responded independently. It was Clinton's bombing of Kosovo and Obama's ombing of Libya that violated the law, not to mention Kennedy's/Johnson's/Nixon's continued 'police action' in Vietnam.
The President and the Federal government have no "rights"; they have only those POWERS delegated to them by the states. Additionally, only Congress can pass laws. These, in turn, must be based on the Constitution and the Founders' intent. Until we can get the majority of the House and Senate, as well as the Oval office (not to mention SCOTUS) to adhere to these fundamental precepts, we are going to have a difficult time succeeding. They control the most major media outlets, so getting the facts out becomes almost impossible.
I agree completely; the problem is in coordinating 50 state legislatures (many of which are still under commy/liberal control (CA, NY. MA, CT, RI, DC, etc). This is a long fight. As for money going first to the states and then the Federal gov, that's not the way Federal taxation and distrubution work. The taxes we pay (Federal) go to DC and are then parsed out to the states. State taxes are, of course, internal.
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@TWLoker@west@danny313Overturning Wickard would be monstrously difficult; there is a legal concept of 'stare decisis', i..e., a decision made is prettty much settled. It's sort of a legal concept of inertia; a mass a rest stays at rest, unlesss acted upon by a greater force. Also, what would that open the court's to as a results; virtually countless lawsuits, which, however correct, would tie up the entire judiciary for decades. (All federal gun control laws, rules, and regulation alone could take decades; also, justices in other courts might decide to rule other than what SCOTUS does; look at Illinois and DC after the Chicago and Heller decisions, still disobeying SCOTUS'S decisions and with judges voting against the SCOTUS rulings).
Wickard VS Filburn (I am working from memory, so forgive if errors abound) concerned a farmer in the 30s growing corn for his own use and/or local sale. The government prosecuted him, misusing the Commerce Clause as the basis of its decision. This goes higher, though; FDR, in his reach for any imperial Executive Branch, basically told SCOTUS that if they didn't vote as he wanted, he would appoint ten more justices (there is NO set number of justices; 9 has just become traditional) who would vote the way he wanted, so that at worst he'd win court decision 10 to 9! FDR, far from being a great president, was merely a continuation of Lincoln - also a terrible president - who envisioned the Federal government as supreme over the states. The hubris of these two presidents is what has led us to where we are today. (Seven states had peacefully seceded under President Buchanan; Lincoln forced the civil war, not to free blacks, who he considered subhuman, but to force the Federal Power as supreme).
Second, to follow the previous post, his so-called 'birth certificate', (produced only after a billionaire forced the issue, is itself useless. COPIES of it having been examined throught expensive ADOBE Photoshop software (an $11,000plus proffressional artists/architects tool) show conclusively that it is a forgery. Just the file number alone does not accord with other file numbers from 1961. Next, a former Hawaiii employee named, last name West, who now teaches stateside, was a Hawaiin official dealing with voter registration; he has sworn, and has offered to take a polygraph, that no birth certificate existed for Obama when he examined the records.
2 years, 7 months ago on NDAA: Open Season for the Police State
Actualy, definitive proof has always existed that he was NOT born in America. First, his birth certificate from Kenya is on file at the hospital in Mombassa. Second, is OWN late (white) grandmother is ON RECORD as having stated that she WENT TO Kenya to see him born. Next, the headline of the main Kenyan newspaper in 2004 was "Kenyan born Barack Hussein Obama" elected to US Senate. Finally, outside the town of his birth, their is a large roadside in both the native language and in English stating "Birthplace of Barack Hussein Obama"
My whole point is that the governmnet needs a complete overhaul, voting out all the deadwood and puttting into office strict constructions to return us to what we once were. My cyncism is that is as likely as winning the lotto. That being the case, what do we do now, if that is hardly likely to work? I mean, if you have any good ideas, please share them and let's implement them.
@KansasBrightDengue fever' arrival here has nothing to do w/ government experriments and everything to do w/illegal immiration. This is an old, well recored disease. The "shrinkage" of our world brought it here, not some government agency. (All conspiracy theories are by definition nonsense until/unless incontrovertible proof to the contrary is provided). I am both a cynic and aware of how totally INNEFICIENT government is (they couldn't even get Operation Gun Runner done without getting caught, for gooodness sake).
Kansasbright - We are on the same page; now the question is: What to do about the situation? We would neeed, quite literally, to have a 3/4 majority in the House and Senate, as well as a proper President, who were "consititutional constructionists". They would have to overturn Obamacare; eliminate screwball agencies completely (EPA, Dept of Education, and so on and sof forth). They would then need to remove from the bench all judges who refused to rule from a strict contructionist basis. The likelihood of this happening is more remote than you or I winning the lottery, i.e.., not likely. It would have to be a total replacement of our government, and, sadly, I just don't see that happening. We can only hope. (This is in reply to your 1/15 4.57 pm note) Bob
Again, RXPEND4U, you give the government WAY too much credit for efficiency and logistical capability. It took them ~10 years to kill one man (Bin Laden); the notion that they could inflict a disease on the population, or that our weapons are not enough (IF used strategically) to take care of almost anything short of a full scale UN Invansion is hard ot imagine. The courts, prisons, and law enforcement are overloaded as it is; additionally, while some would obey illegal orders, many would not; after all, while out following orders to subjugate US, we could be capturing their families and holding them hostage, for example. I just don't see the extremes as being viable likelihoods. Now, a complete economic collapse, and the resulting catastrophic social and civil disruption accompanying it, that I see as possible.
Not sue I unserstood your last post, Kansasbright; air water soil are fundamental to freedom, which is why they must lie outside the abusive control of any government. I need clarification from you as to where this discussion was meant to go. Bob
Thanks and God bless. though I too havne't prayed much for a long time.
Again, my point is the logistics; the government has neither sufficient resources or personnel to logistically effectuate this. Also, unlike NAZI Germany, as I've mentioned, 60-100 MILLION of us are armed with over 250 MILLION firearms, and ammo sales are in the BILLIONS per year. While it might devolve into massive civil violence, it is hard to imagine it actually occuring. Pray not, anyway.
Again, the Constitution is not the highest law in the land; it is, as mentioned, a limited grant of powers to the Federal government. Absent a stated power, they have no legal authority to pass a piece of legislation. The States have all other powers not granted the Fed; unfortunately, the Federal government has been corrrupted violently since at least FDR's time. The states have, by the way, the legal authority to 'NULLIFY' an illegal Federal law (Gun Control laws, for example). The Supremacy clause refers only to those areas - say, declaring War - where the Federal government's powers trump the State's. It's been horribly corrupted, though, and I don't know how to fix it. Thank God for other educated Americans like you.
Again, per my previous post: it is not necessarily the highest law of the land; as I noted, the 13 SOVEREIGN states formed a Servant that they stated specificallly was BENEATH the States for most things. The 10 Article of Amendment was drafted to very carefully highlight that other than the powers granted to the Federal Government, ALL OTHER POWERS ARE RESERVED FOR THE STATES. This is why the hundreds of thousands of laws, rules, regulations passed despite NOT being a power granted the Federal Government are not legal; especially anything not passed by Congress, SINCE ONLY CONGRESS CAN MAKE THE LAWS. I.e., rules and regulations from, say, the EPA have no legal validity of they were not passed by Congress.
A spy and a subvervixe; spies can be executed on sight. (i..e., a foreign agent, not in uniform, striving to destroy America from within).
@FredDawesA wise man once said we get the kind of government we deserve. That said, I think you're forgetting an important fact. Between 60-100 MILLION of us own 250 MILLION firearms. Do you really think the government can beat us? Not likely. We outnumber all the militaries IN THE WORLD. Even if they could all be brought here, they couldn't win.
@KansasBright To continue what I started, the ~Federal Government was granted ~35 carefully enumerated powers and has added some more via the Amendment process. First: The 10th Amendment states that all powers not granted the FEDs are reserved for the States; the 9th Amendment states that only individuals have rights. Finally, only Congress can pass new laws; yet literally hundreds of thousands of laws, rules, and regulations are put in place by innumerable agencies; they aren't legal, but the corrupt Judiciary has, since FDRs time, allowed the disaster we now face.
The Constitution of the US is not 'a law for rulers nd people'; it is, rather, a carefully worded GRANT of ~35 powers that the Sovereign States (which are ABOVE the Federal Government). Any powers NOT granted in the Constiution do not exist for the Federal Gov. IF THEY want a new power - say, income taxes (our country was founded w/o income taxes) - the Federal Gov must go to the States as a supplicant and convince 3/4 to grant them a given new power. The last one, for example, was limiting the Presidency to two terms.
The biggest problem you have, RUXPEN4U, is that no matter how well meaning you may be, and how right you might be, NONE OF WHAT YOU WRITE WILL TRULY BE MEANINGFUL without verifiable names, dates, places, etc. If you have them, share them not only here but sent copies to Rush, Chris Plante, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, etc. If they all have this material, then you will be safe because any action taken against you would reach an audience of at least 38 million people. Without specific data, it all becomes hard (virtually impossible) to believe.
But, it' hard to see it happening. For one thing, between 60-100 million own firearms, with over 250 MILLION in America alone. Next, our government is just not that efficient. It's been years since Katrina, and they still haven't rebuilt New Orleans! I have never found evidence of any father/son hunting duo 'disappearing' near a supposed FEMA camp in an Eastern State, and I have been looking hard for this. You need to supply specifics; dates, names of father son, state, what FEMA camp (and how do we know it). I am a sceptic; I don't trust our government, but I also want verifiable, documented information with which to work. Thanks, bye. Bob
I spent a number of years with the US Naval Security Group, as did my wife. She is still w/a Federal Agency. Number one, we have the highest of clearances; even with compartmentalized info, too many people would know about this for it to be kept secret. Neither of us has ever seen evidence regarding this, and we were/are still in a position to know about this or have heard of it. Without doubt, Obama and that Clinton witch are striving for a NWO and want us subjected to the 'mercies' of the UN.
As a veteran, the notion of "UN Troops" on American soil would not surprise me. What WOULD surprise me is proof of such a thing, as William Copelanx mentions. Again, I don't in the least doubt it; I am just damn sure the government will cover it up to such an extent that it will be, in all practical terms, impossible to prove it. However, as a possible example of such a reality: For twenty plus years, the loony left has been trying to get a UN SMALL ARMS TREATY passed; Hillary Clinton and Obama are actively on board as supporting it. While it PURPORTS to be about suppressing small arms to 'bad guys', it effectiively eliminates all private ownership of small arms for individiuals in all countries. Obviously, it would take UN PEACEKEEPING forces here to 'implement' this, effectively causing a revolution. (There are over 250 million privately owned firearms owned by anywhere from 60 to 100 million Americans; logistically, a military nightmare). But, if only 67 Senators and a President signed on to this UN Resolution, it would become US law WITHOUT having been passed by Congress, as the Constitution requires all legislation in America to be passed by Congress. (Which brings into question ALL the hundreds of thousands of local, state, and federal rules and regulations by agencies too numerous to count - the EPA, the BATF, etc - which are 'allowed' to be laws though not passed by Congress).
Sounds like crazy conspiracy talk, have no knowledge of what you are asserting; late Dad was 32d Degree Mason, Masons are the Good guys, not the bad; virtually ALL of our Founding Fathers were Mason, because they believe in individual freedom and NOT in overarching government. As for the rest of this nonsense, how about a bit of verifiable (i.ei, I can find it in, say, a library) before I buy into it. As a veteran with the highest of clearances, the logistics alone are beyond our government's efficiency.
While I certainly agree with you, only fthree Federal crimes are mentioned in the Constitution; one is treason. The current POTUS is bending this (the definiitionof treason) like taffy so that anything with which he does not agree is 'Treason". Combatting this will be a bitch. Also, as we saw after Katrina, or the LA Riots, or the Branch Davidian compound and the murder of Vicky Weaver and her infant child by FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi, and another grown Weaver son - shot in the back - (still a crime for the Federal government has yet to be held accountable, and at which Lon Horiuchi was present), it seems to me that many LEOs and the National Guard will violate their sworn oaths when under orders from superiors; this is on film. If the National Guard (a secion of the military, after all) will violate their sworn oaths, how many military personell willl also do so? As a veteran, I met many individuals who would follow ANY ORDERS, illegal or not,including acting against the citizenry. If that was true several decades ago, it is far more likely to be true today.