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@rupertenberg @soulhuntre @mkassowitz Oops, one person below mentions something similar. Maybe an installation error? Or something else...* Do you and @discountssales share a hosting company? * Can you add a bit more memory to your PHP allocation? Maybe the LESS compiler is running out sometimes (depending on your hosting, this might not be predictable).* Can you try the debug? What does it say?Ken
7 months, 2 weeks ago on Some issues, but we’ll be back!
@rupertenberg @soulhuntre @mkassowitz Actually, it is working well for a large number of us - I do not recall hearing anyone else with the same problem you are having.
That doesn't make it less distressing for you, of course, but it is a useful bit of info anyway.Ken
@mkassowitz @rupertenberg I SERIOUSLY doubt that it is a remote exploit thing. The entire system is off the compromised servers and has been since early Wed. Additionally, the source is in github, and the commit log is open to the public, so any malicious code would show up there - and there is none.
Now, this might be a bug, which sucks, but it is not a exploit issue, nor is it a security risk.
@daryldyer @arpowers @Mindtrain "now have to consider our options wether to continue and adapt or explore other options."Well said.I am confident you will find it is for sure worth it. $30 for this tool MORE than pays for itself. Heck, the first client I showed a site to with the BETA paid for more than a few years of the subscription will cost. This tool helps me make money. Full stop. As such, it si a great value proposition.Ken
7 months, 2 weeks ago on Your DMS awaits.
@oflain There look to still be some issues with the activation server-side stuff due to the server move. Ditto the forums. Ken
@Invisioning You are mistaken if you think the issues with the "previous functionality" are a DMS issue. There has been a significant, and unfortunately disruptive, server downtime event as the result of a security problem. The PageLines folks have made the very, VERY wise decision to move their systems to new servers for security reasons, but that has caused a lot of problems for a day or two.
It is my understanding that you will retain access to 2.x, and all your extensions / sections etc... they were not taken away but rather are simply unavailable for a short time.Ken
@nextlevelplus Media Temple is notoriously under powered... they keep it all pretty small because they oversell the hardware by a large factor. You will need to ask them to increase the limit a bunch, as @etc mentioned. I woudl try and go for double the size of the DMS .zip file or more.Ken
@JaredBernstein It's an app store, like on your phone. The people creating most of those components charge a fee, because it costs them time to do that development and no one is paying them.
An example is WooCommerce. I can pay for my WooClub, then I still have to pay for many WooCommerce extensions in their little app store as well. Third party devs get money... that's good business.
If you don't need any extra components, then use the FREE version of PageLines and pay nothing.
@dgosine @MichaelDevaney * "is Unlimited Websites a feature?"Well yes, it is. The right to use the Pro features on an unlimited number of sites is a HUGE feature. That means my ONLY PageLines cost to have this tool for all my clients is $30. * "if want No Link Credit how is that a feature?"My clients don't want that logo there, so having it gone is a feature. Of course it is.
@MichaelDevaney @dgosine "But if you want features that pagelines is offering it will cost ya. and i'm fine with that."
I agree. Professional, dedicated development is not a charity - it is a business. The tool provides value - if the cost / benefit to a consumer is good, then that tool will thrive int he market. If not, then market pressure will force a change.Ken
@MarkFirth @jgiroux "so its not an upgrade, instead a bran new product?"Yes, essentially. It installs in a new folder, and WordPress sees it as a totally separate theme. You should think in terms of "migration" not "drop in upgrade".
That said, there is a compatibility mode that helps some, but I have not used it myself.
@alexbulgo Go ahead and install it as with any theme.
It IS functional out of the box, though the basic "theme" that you build from is fairly.... basic. Still, it will operate, and is a good starting point. There is also a build in landing page style template that you can set up through the templates tab of the DMS UI that helps a lot.
@Brenden "Greed Monster" - really?Personally I find that amusing. As if building tools like this, and supporting them, and building upgrades is something that should not be rewarded - and handsomely.
When you provide people a tool that they can use, you are welcome to charge whatever the market will bear. That is not "greed" - that is called business. If PageLines isn't a good choice for you, then don;t use it. If t is, then go ahead and pay the money. This whole idea that somehow they owe it to folks to live on the thinnest possible profit margin or as a charity is just silly.
I get it - this really isn't about PageLines - it is just a sort of moral / ethical issue with capitalism, or profit or something. Still, it is always odd to me.
@John Petrowski Everyone has to make these decisions for themselves of course.
Personally, the $30 a month allows me to decrease the amount of time it takes me to build client sites, saving them money and making me more profitable. It more than pays for itself over and over and over. With almost no exceptions professional level tools cost money.
Don't sweat it guys.
No doubt some will pounce on any slight glitch with this launch as if this is a disaster akin to a space station falling out of the sky. As I said in another post, haters gonna hate :)Take your time, tie up the loose and I am sure the launch itself will be awesome. Those of us who have been working with this tool know that it is great and any minor hiccup will be swept under by the magnitude of what you accomplished. In the coming months when huge numbers of WordPress folks are using DMS to get sh_t done, only the haters will remember that there were a few issues with your website on launch day.
@x3mgroup I can tell you right now how I feel about it - I am thrilled. Let me tell you why...
* For many people, hobbyists and those running personal blogs etc the open source / free version of DMS will be more than enough, and costs exactly $0
* For anyone in the "light pro" realm, they can pass through the costs of a single $10/mo subscription to their client and never have to deal with it on their own.
* For the most of the professionals who really need the benefits of the developer level, $30 a month for unlimited use should really not be a problem. It is just not that much money. If it saves you a few hours that you can bill to the client, or it lands you one job it will have paid for itself essentially.Good tools cost money.... and this is a comparatively cheap price.
7 months, 2 weeks ago on What is a DMS?
@CaseyGraffix I played with that in the past and like so many of these plug ins it is seriously hampered by the context it lives in. It is constrained, and there is almost no third party ecosystem. Play with the free version of DMS< you will see what I mean when I say there is no comparison.
@mikeriches @arpowers @x3mgroup Mike, I see your point about the freestanding thing... but (at least for me) it isn't an issue. Past a certain level of sophistication your solution is deeply tied to your technology anyway. If I wanted REALLY lean, I wouldn't be on WordPress. If I wanted really separate front ends, I would build against a REST API. That isn't to say when I use WordPress I have abandoned performance, it is just to say that by using WordPress I have already bought into a whole technology stack - DMS isn't going to make me any MORE tied to that stack, cause I already am.Make sense?
7 months, 3 weeks ago on What is a DMS?
@arpowers @FnqWeb @soulhuntre @webmatros and thanks to the Open Source connection now, it is going to get a whole lot more interesting. OS brings with it a whole new set of politics to deal with :)The first time you reject a bad patch that happens to come from a prominent user of a competitors products, or who is an outspoken critic - expect a firestorm.
@FnqWeb @webmatros PageLines doesn't need any "defense" at all. Sheesh, it's software, not a city under siege. Folks will try it, judge it and use it for themselves. The ones who avoid it simply because they read a bad blog post about it were never a factor in any case, for any company.I disagree about the term "hater". It is a perfectly good word and applies to many areas of the world and technology. Some folks just get all wrapped up in validating their own choices, for their own insecurity. I mean, you can see people almost get in fist fights about what type of PHONE they are using. It's just idiocy. "Hater" is a fine phrase for people who have connected their own self worth to a technology choice, and let it govern their emotions.Tools are tools. Technology will change. If you get emotionally attached to any of it, you're doing it wrong.