Tracy Boxer Zill
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So, if I get what you're saying, the Giants FO is cheap?
22 hours, 31 minutes ago on The 2014 National League West Deconstructed (Some Assembly Required)
@SethStevens Seth, you're right. However, you're posting on a "Giants FO is cheap" blog. Richard is simply going to repeat the same tired schtick without actually looking at the data.
22 hours, 36 minutes ago on SF Giants On a Spending Spree? Not So Far
@RBRtweets @auburnreality @BASportsGuy No way is Roaracle going to be "quiet." If you don't buy your tickets, others will. Mine are $12k for the season alone and if I don't reup at $14k for next year, there are dozens in line to take my seats.
4 weeks, 1 day ago on Warriors season ticket holders facing significant price increases
@RDyer @Robert Haymond "a couple of good hitters...three or four non-run producing batters." Are you even AWARE of the lineup? Pagan/Scutaro/Posey/Sandoval/Pence/Belt/Morse/Crawford. 5 guys who likely will hit 20+ HRs. Not that HRs are the be and end all of hitting, but REALLY? I haven't read any projections this year that say the Giants won't score runs (health allowing). Most of the negativity comes from concerns about the starting pitching. The whiners will point to Cain's atypical season last year, Timmy's 2012 and first third of 2013, Hudsons injury and Vogelsong. A more detailed analysis projects two aces, two 2/3 types, and Vogelsong.
Blanco is a useful bench player, as is our switch hitting catcher. Arias is solid, and that leaves Abreu and JCP. All in all, pretty decent. Add in a FO that has historically put together good to great bullpens and I just don't see anything but health keeping the team out of the playoffs.
Your blog consistently devolves into "The owners are cheap! Spend more money!" Sure, you pad that meme with "outdated thinking" and "stone age management" but what you really mean is "why weren't we in on [fill in name of $200MM free agent]." It's tired; we get it. $136MM last year wasn't enough and $150MM isn't enough this year. Jeebus.
1 month, 1 week ago on SF Giants Elect to Spend Good Will, Save Money
Yup, Sabean has based his ENTIRE offseason in Huff. And he's the only GM who makes low risk moves that mostly amount to nothing.
Whine on, brother.
1 month, 1 week ago on Two MLB Headlines, Two Teams Headed in Opposite Directions
Sigh...another "Giants FO is cheap" whine. Rinse, blather, repeat.
1 month, 2 weeks ago on Two MLB Headlines, Two Teams Headed in Opposite Directions
@Giants55 Disagree re: EVERYONE needing a good year. We need relative health and reasonable seasons from the SP (i.e. Bum pitches like an ace, Cain like a 2, Timmy and Huddy like 3s, and Vogey like a 5). As long as that happens we'll be fine. We'll see if the doyers can stay healthy as well. What if Greinke has a 2014 like Cain's 2013? What if their SP get hurt or are suddenly ineffective like ours last year? You think they won't be worse?
2 months, 2 weeks ago on Grading Brian Sabean’s offseason
@Eric Another lunfringy whine. I guess we picked up Belt, Crawford, Sandoval in trades? And Posey was "a layup?" Four teams didn't think so, and passed on him. Fact is, Sabean DID draft him, he's a MVP, and you don't want to give credit for the pick. How many orgs have four of their starters homegrown and playing as well as Posey, Belt, Crawford, Sandoval?
Bottom line: were in the mix in the NL for the foreseeable future. Instead of whining like RedSoxfan whenever we DON'T win the WS, why not appreciate the fact that we're highly competative. Oh, wait, that'd be waaaaay to rational.
@DAVIDM87 Yawn. Another lunatic fringy whine about a team that has a 150MM payroll being "cheap." Rinse, blather, repeat.
2 months, 3 weeks ago on Grading Brian Sabean’s offseason
@maxwell623 @Robert Haymond you meant "well whined."
3 months ago on Giants Make Wrong Statement With Vogelsong Signing
The FO "sits back and watches?" Really? Signing Pence to 5/90, Lincecum 2/35, Hudson 2/23, Vogelsong 1/5, Lopez 3/13 is "doing nothing?" That's $166MM of free agent spending. What world do you live in? How many teams have spent that much on FA? I think you're completely overlooking the fact that all five of those players were free agents. You just want something shiny and new, so that next offseason you can whine about that.
@maxwell623 Really? since 1964 an 2013 "embarrasses" you? You seriously lack perspective. 85, 94, 96, 79, 07, 74, 92, 08, 72, 76, 77, 91, 05, 95 and 1980 all say "Hi!!"
@maxwell623 So you want a $175MM payroll? Too bad. It's not your money; you don't get to decide how to spend it. 85% of fan bases would LOVE a $150MM payroll.
@GoGiants74 Why would Timmy take a pay cut? On what basis do you make the assertion that Vogey should have been around $3MM? Other than that, good post.
@paulfromturlock What's "legitimate" in a LF? 102 OPS+ and 2.5 WAR? Looks legitimate to me. A bench of Arias, Abreu, Blanco, Sanchez, and JCP is "solid." With Romo/JA/Casilla/Lopez/Hembree/Petit and likely another arm picked up in trade you've got "deep." Lincecum and Hudson are not "#5 starters," but rather #3 starters. You really sound like entitledwhineyfan who is throwing a fit when he doesn't get the Choo toy he wants.
@Robert Haymond another ridiculous lunatic fringed whine. How in the hell is $150MM "cheap?" Look at Lincecum's last 20 starts and project over a full season -- he comes in about 3.0 WAR. In other words, he earns his contract.
3 months ago on The Giants' 2013 Hot Stove Can Still Sizzle
Perfectly put, SW. Way to bring research into the discussion
3 months, 1 week ago on SF Giants On a Spending Spree? Not So Far
@maxwell623 @RDyer @Sabean Wannabe @LoneStarGiantFan You and I have no idea how much money the Giants have. What we DO know is that they are in the top 6 for payroll. That's not cheap.
3 months, 2 weeks ago on SF Giants On a Spending Spree? Not So Far
@Sabean Wannabe @RDyer @LoneStarGiantFan This is exactly right. And Richard, instead of bringing research and/or facts to the table, instead plays the "you're not very nice" card. Look, I may not be nice, but I'm dog tired of the "Sabean/FO is cheap" whine. I've been hearing it for 15 years. It's old, and its not true. Again, Richard:
1. Where are these articles that claim the Giants are big spenders?
2. What is it about a $150MM payroll that is cheap?
The main reason that most bloggers are not taken seriously is because they don't give any real analysis, but rather simply rant. We get that you think the Giants are cheap. What we don't get is where the "media" has declared the Giants to be "big spenders." I am, as politely as I can, asking you to step up with some research. Otherwise, you'd be better off simply quoting Mr. Polanco below; he summed up in 8 words what you took several graphs to write. And both of you provided about as much analysis.
@RDyer @maxwell623 This is one of the most ridiculous takes I've read in quite a while. It echoes the drivel that Damon Bruce's callers come up with. Let's address your points in order:
1. 2014 is done if we don't get a front line LF -- horsecrap. We've got Pagan/Scutaro/Posey/Sandoval/Pence hitting 1-6 and Crawford hitting 8. That's 7/8 of our lineup with competent to very good hitters. We could easily get a platoon RHH to pair with Blanco in left and get decent production out of the 7 hole. If our 7 starters have average years, we'll score plenty of runs. We don't need to sign Choo or Ellsbury -- that would be $20MM plus a year spent on the 7 hole which would be stupid.
2. A rotation of Cain/Bum/Hudson/Lincecum/(Vogelsong or Petit) means we won't contend -- horsecrap again. Hudson and Lincecum are not "bottom of the rotation" starters. Taking his last three years, Hudson projects out to a 109 ERA+ and 2.1 WAR. That's a solid #3. For Timmy, you have to look at his last 20 starts as that's when he finally adjusted to the loss in velocity. We won't see Cy Timmy again, but to expect him to pitch like he did over the 40 starts in 2012-2013 before he adjusted is simply lazy analysis -- he's not that pitcher either. If you take his final 20 starts from this year, he projects out to a 105 ERA+ and 2.0 WAR. Again, a solid #3. For Cain, you cherry pick just this season, but if you take his last three seasons, he projects to 115 ERA+ and 3.0 WAR. That's a #2. I assume we can agree Madison is a #1.
In sum, we've got a #1, a #2, 2 #3s, and an opening. We might get Arroyo (he projects to a #3/#4. But if you look around the league, very few teams if any have a solid 1-5 rotation. The doyers certainly don't. If the top four pitch as projected, our rotation will be solid.
Lastly, your doom-and-gloom predictions are tired, and unsupported by any real analysis. For instance, you give oversimplified terse summations like "Cain has never been a #1 and regressed last season;" (2009-2012 all say "hello??"). You really need to have better grasp of the facts if you're going to have a serious blog. As it is, you seem like just another whiney lunatic fringer, ranting about "cheap Giants FO."