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God Bless America.. Only took AV this long to form this lineup which should be the lineup everynight. Why did it take this long to put Duke on the third with Hayes and Hags and bump Stemp down to the fourth.
Week one day one stuff here... Hopefully this works now.
To me this is a very deep lineup with scoring threats on each line.. If Glass can play up to his potential everynight then we might have something here.
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@rangermom @ktc990 AV sometimes just sends me spinning with these personal decisions.... Like they seem no brainers and he makes it so hard..
Stemp and D moore had great chemistry on the third line a few weeks ago.. Idk i just dont get it.
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I mean does anybody else think that a 4th line of Glass/Fast-D moore- Stemp is out of line? Then put duclair in on the third line.... (I am assuming AV's mancrush of Glass continues and is in the lineup)
I mean what is so hard about this.. I guess Hags and Duke are both listed as Left WIngers so that might be the issue??
But does anyone think stemp absolutely 100% belongs on the third line and not the fourth??
If anyone gets injured everyone knows Duke is the best option to fill in... So i think that is the main reason for keeping him around not to mention he belongs here
I feel like we are in the exact same position we were in llast year when we need a little sandpaper in the lineup... like why haven't we learned from this????? Baffling to say the least.. Why car bomb wasn't resigned is beyond me..
Like why didn't we learn from last year?? Were literally literally in theexact same position.. .500 team looking for a spark everynight...
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@J_CKfor30 Not only that but he puts duke and Hayes with him... How is that doing them any good??
To me having an agitator is part of the game.. Not an enforcer per say but an agitator.. To me they are two different things. This is exactly what we are missing... You get the other team so off their game they are just concerned with you. We have nothing like this right now.
It gets everyone else fired up and involved and ready to play.. That is the job of the agitator and to me it is a very important role.
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I smell a "jumpstart" trade for an energy player.. Carbomb, avery.. We need to find a 4th line that works. Obviously that is not our only problem by any means but we are going to need someone that can stir things up and play (obviously easier said than done).
There is just no one in this lineup that stirs things up at all/jumpstart a team on a slow night.
And for god sake AV, Hayes and Duke should be on the 3rd line with hags and put D. Moore and Stemp on the 4th.. I love D. Moore and everything but he doesn't score, plain and simple... So are you really telling me that your 3rd line center who is going to score under 10 goals probably and your okay with that?? D. Moore is a 4th line center and is good at it.
AV is not putting these guys in places to succeed.. Duke and Hayes are NOT being put in a place to do the best they can and I have a major problem with that. D Moore was your anchor on the 4th line last year so why are you trying to make him a 3rd line center. Hayes has so much upside as does Duke so play them with a player that also has a proven upside.
Idk we just need to shake things up here so if I was Sather i would be looking for that "7th round" for carbomb type trade.
The biggest problem last year was when the Rangers were losing they were losing in Regulation. This year, past two games lost in OT while getting a point in each game and tonight winning in OT.. IF were going to lose, lets lose in OT..
Hunwick might be the next Stralman find with a more offensive side.. Could be a good find.
Think we just found our next 4th line with D.Moore and Stemp and if we must Glass.... Would just rather have Malone in that position instead of Glass but whatda going to do.
Really hope Nash keeps going and St. Louis
Think the lineup should be
Excellent jog Neill!!!! Honestly alot more than I expected. Really appreciate your effort and opinions. Thank you for everything
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Neil look, this isn't your full time job. We all get that.. Even understand that you have a personal life too. Kevin was amazing. From his lengthy recaps to his notes and stats that were in the game thread were amazing. Was so impressed by how much he would include in both.
My 2 cents is you have a family, and time to do all that plus a fmaily is time consuming. Even just a quick opening of game thread with the starting lineups and maybe a few quick notes (for me) would suffice. I don't think anyone can blame you if you can't keep up with the pace of everything if you have work family etc.
I just think everyone wants to keep this FAMILY that shares a common passion together. We don't want to go anywhere else. No one will understand us. No one will get us.
So in closing I just think that as long as you can keep us together on here is really all (at least I am) looking for. I am a long time reader but recently last year started to comment and jumping into the fun. SO as long as you keep us together in some way shape or form I think is all we care about. You saw last night about how people were talking about the game under the most recent thread.. So even if you don't get a chance to make a new thread we can just talk under the most recent one. No big deal. We just want to keep sharing the passion of the rangers with this FAMILY we have created.
Good luck and I hope this works out. LGR!!!
P.S. Wouldn't mind paying a membership in the least. Saw that was getting thrown around yesterday as well
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@HockeyinGa This literally just made me burst out laughing in the middle of work hahaha.. Thank Neil and I think the GIF's alone down here show you what kind of following and atmosphere encompasses this blog.
@bauer235 Did you read the post above lol... Kevin is taking a permanent vacation
@TruBluEsp Touche to all of that.
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@KevinTheNYRBlog @gravey94 @SmellyKisio I think it just comes down to a numbers games too. IF you move MSL back to wing then either Haglin, Zucc or Stemp need to be moved to the 4th line or hayes if you move him to wing which i wouldn't do a t this point. But once steph comes back, you going to have an odd man out type scenario. Now this is assuming Glass would stay in the lineup, but then you have a top 9 odd man out.
So to me Duke really needed to stand out these first 9 games in order to stay for awhile.. I have been okay with his play but to me he hasn't stood out as a "Yes we need to keep this kid around" and I think thats what he needed to do to stay for the whole season.
With the emergence of Hayes and his ability to play center once steph comes back it seems like its either Duke or Hayes and I think Hayes wins that one just simply because he can play center and very well may be our 3rd line center.
So if unless you bumping stemp or Hags down to the 4th line there is no room for Duke.. I think both Hags and Stemp need top 9 minutes (as of now).. I think it really just comes down to a numbers game.
@dylonergan It was crapping out on MSG all through the first and part of the second periods. It was MSG feed that was the problem
There is really one simple solution and thats everyone needs to play up to the potential they have. If everyone plays better and up to the ceiling we will be fine. even if 5 out of the 6 defense men play better we will be fine.
As for Staal I think Sather has shown he won't fold and hopefully he does the same here altho the play of the entire defense isn't helping the situation.
I think if Staal holds out for a bigger contract than Girardi he will find himself in a different uniform come the trade deadline. Its a simple as that.
@Hotfreak @ktc990 damn it lol
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Hey guys so Del Zotto was my idol coming to the Rangers.. I wanted to be just like him.. So I decided to wear #4 just like him and make plays just like him as well. I mean everyone talks about him so much here so I want to get talked about just as much. Hope I am on my way to being the next Del Zotto!!!
P.S. AV told me not to worry about it and shake it off and I will be in the lineup tomorrow night to get a chance to redeem myself.. Boy I love his calmness and no reason to panic attitude because if I was playing for Torts I would have ridden in the storage underneath the bus and then driven to the Hudson River and thrown into it never to be seen again!
@NYR 2014 The whole Malone comment about "doesn't know where he fits in" was just up-hauling to say the least... I mean I thought it was very obvious that he should have started given what he brings to the table and he is veteran.. And then AV came out and said that and i was like wow, either he knows something we don't or he stiffed AV on a drug deal. But the guy had an awesome camp and was doing something every shift he had. I mean what more could you want from the guy... AV definitely went a notch down after that comment. Not saying i am going to i am going to question every decision obviously but that comment was utterly baffling to say the least.
Was listening to a podcast about the Rangers and the guy went offfff on AV after that comment about Malone. His comment was something like "doesn't know where he fits in.... You put him in front of the net on the PP and just have him stand there.. Thats where he fits in" and what do you know last night he did that and the PP was alot better than it had been..... I mean that whole situation really made me question AV.. I thought that was the most obvious thing out of camp is having him on the 4th line and on the PP.. But hey what do I know...
@gravey94 What a terrible article... At least he says it is a small sample size but the Rangers basically didn't play well for almost 2 months last year and went to the Finals... If its Xmas and they are ten games under .500 then I will be worried. Yes has Ludquivst given up a bunch of goals but this is also the goalie that did that last year. WE just have to get into the dance and be hitting our stride in the middle of April.. I mean he is praising the Fishsticks like they are 20 games above .500 and the Rangers are 20 games below lol.
I think its safe to say you have seen Kostka's last game in a Ranger Uniform.
Malone was great and that is what i envisioned him doing so well on the 4th line. Its not about what Fast was doing bad but about what Malone CAN bring that Fast simply can't bring because he isn't that type of player/doesn't have the physical makeup to do what Malone does. I said this before, we had too many of the same player.. MSL Zucc Haglein, Fast... At some point you have to mix in some size and grit. Its just that simple. How many times did we get scoring chances because MALONE WAS IN FRONT OF THE NET... WOWW imagine that... Going to the net and standing there waiting for a rebound and clearing the crease to try and get that garbage goal... Its not rocket science here. You can't have ALL speed.. Its only going to get you so far. @Say my Name said it in his comment... How much more open ice was there when you have guys out there that will take care of business
As for defense.. Bring up Allen or The Undertaker and live with it.. Trade deadline comes we address it and make sure we have the necessary depth like the Diaz deal last year. Guys will be available.
Hayes looked awesome. If he keeps playing like that he will be a mainstay in the lineup. Duke looked fine. The MSL Nash combo is deadly.
Something to ponder is when Steph comes back, and no one else gets hurt, and Duke and Hayes keep playing the way they are, and Malone plays and is a presence in front of the net like he was last night who do you take out of the lineup.. Only time will tell.
Move on, Thursday night can't come soon enough
@JoeyKocur Malone looked awesome. Presence in front of the net, noticeable on every chift, several scoring chances with the 4th line, on the PP he is posted right in front of the net and the PP looked the best it has all season. He should be in there full time IMO
@J_CKfor30 My take would be because he is hopefully trying to get the chemistry between MSL and Malone and see if they can generate something. Malone is a very good garbage clean up the shots and put them in guy. So i am assuming its because he wants him with MSL.
1 month, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
From A Gross
#NYR morning skate lines:
Really would love for this to work out as I love the mixture of veterans, grit, talent, big bodies, and speed.
This is just about the lines and opening day lineup I would have put out there.
Giving Duke best talent around him. Kirds is the body and scorer brass needs. Probably would have left Zucc on the second but Stemp has been playing too well not to try him there.
And then the 4th line is the grinding big body line with a chance to put the puck in the net and will provide that energy we need.
Lets put it like this.... Rather have this kind of start and play now than in April-June. Assuming they get it out of there system now we should be good. If they don't, well then... Lets not even think about that.
I give it two-three more games with the same lineup, if nothing changes I would go with this
Get Fast out of there. If Fast isn't scoring he brings far less to the table then Malone would (no not that stuff to the table Malone). Malone has the size, grit, willingness to get to the net, big body on the powerplay, veteran presence etc. etc.
I think the biggest thing to remember is opening day lineup last year at least a 1/3 of it wasn't in tact for our playoff run. I expect the same thing this year.
@KevinNYR @ktc990 Okay. How do I contact you wihtout you giving personal information out on here lol
I like yours Kevin alot more than what AV has.
Having said that I think were going to see alot of shuffling of the lines until Steph gets back. Youi have to assume Hayes and Malone are going to get shots playing in the early on especially if some lines aren't producing.
Having said that to me if Duclair is here you should be giving him the best possible chance to succeed. Him on the third line is not giving him that possible chance. It would be with MSL and Nash on that top line. I think we will see him on that top line at some point in the early on unless he is really clicking with stemp and miller
Like I said though I expect alot of shuffling for the first month based on the unknowns of alot of the youngsters and simply just trying to get guys in the lineup.
@KLorNYR Thanks to both of you guys. I appreciate it!! @johnnyb3910
So any season ticket holders looking to sell a game. I am looking to go to any of these games (2,3, or 4 tickets)
Sat Nov. 29th
Sunday Dec 21st
Tuesday Dec 23rd
Sat Dec. 27th
Sat Jan 3rd
Looking to go with my brother who is home from college then. I figured I would give it a whirl on here. Or if anyone else has any advice where to get tickets besides stubhub or ticketmaster that would be great.
So if anyone is looking to make somewhat of a profit but not charge a couple die hard rangers fans up the ass that would be great. We have never been to a game before because our parents could never afford to take us and now that we are older we really want to go especially after last year. Any help would be greatly appreicated.
Thanks guys LGR!!
I got on here as soon as I got into work just waiting for this article
Counldn't sleep last night thinking about the game tonight!!!
Duclair was the worst thing to happen to Hayes lol.
@Scott from SEC 224 HE can't play for 7 days
@KevinTheNYRBlog @KevinMccarthy Here is my take...... Hartford doesn't play a game until the 18th?? So that is after the 7 days would be up. I am assuming they are being extra careful with him. So why send him down just to call him back up when he is healthy. Hartford doesn't even have a game. So thats my take. Being extra careful. Want him to practice with the big club because he is going to play with them and Hartford doesn't have a game until the 18th.
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@omnishambles 2 Home A's and 2 Road A's... Did the same thing in '94.. Love the move
Opening Night Lineup Last Year......
McDonagh-GirardiStaal-Del ZottoJ. Moore-Stralman
No Pouliot, Del Zotto........ Miller starting on Wing, Richards 1st line...Cally injured, Hags injured That whole third line didn't finish in tact at all.
Things will change boys throughout the season but one thing is for sure, I think on paper we are a far better team going into the season then last year with alot more depth.
I mean Pyatt as our 3rd line LW................. Reallyyyyyy..... LOL....
So with AV's comment about MSL at center if i was the coach i would put this out there
Hags-Miller-Hayes (assuming he is healthy)
Stemp Fast 13th 14th
I am just not a huge Fast fan. I get the attraction and I think he is a good player however I think he brings too much of a same game with what we already have in the lineup. I rather have the higher ceiling Hayes playing (again if he is healthy). If Hayes is here he should be here to play and not sit out.
I would love to have stemp in there but I rather have the big body, grit and Malone in there. I think he is perfect for the 4th line with moore and glass. I think he brings what Stemp brings but more with the big body and grit.
Just what I would do..... Again these things have their way of working themselves out
@Barry Beck Yea i mean there just isn't a spot for him. Would you rather him sit in the press box or go and get better. As stated before by others if someone gets hurt its not necessarily the 7th defensemen that will get the time. The 7th defensemen is just there to fill in if needed but on an extended absence Mclrath could be called up to play everyday. He needs to play though and not sit out every game. What good is that doing for him?
@gravey94 Interesting to see once Hayes isn't hurt whos spot he will take. Is it Fasts spot on the 4th line or is it Stemps on the 3rd with him moving to the 4th and still having Fast come out??
I sure hope he is in the same boat as Duke, if your here your playing.
@DP_Snotty I wonder if this means MSL is going to be tried at center. If he is semi successful the way the lines would shake out, it does make the most sense putting him at center for now.
Or a combo thereof. Idk, I guess that seems a little more stable down the middle. I wouldn't love the move though by any means.
@HobbitLover78 Wouldn't be surprised. He hasn't lite the world on fire but would have been a solid third liner if it wasn't for our youth depth that has emerged and malone being added late
@TomDundie @KevinTheNYRBlog Unless your trading someone with a significant cap hit your not getting anyone major. Theres no cap room.
My take is if the young guys are staying, Hayes mainly, he better be playing and hopefully not playing on the 4th line. I am just personally not a fan of young guys, who are suppose to potentially project as high end NHLers be used on the 4th line with talent that is far less that what they are suppose to be. I also have the feeling you play up to the guys around you.
So if indeed Hayes is making the team i would like to see him in there playing at least on the 3rd line.
Like I have said, Duke is staying based on common sense. If he disappears after first 10 games, send him down. Its as simple as that. He has earned that at least.
I really think our opening lineup will not be what we finish the season with so I think it will all work itself out even if its not what we want to begin with.
And once steph comes back it will change all over again. By then tho we should have a better idea of if Duke is staying and how hayes has been playing and if JT truly is the real deal.
So to me until steph comes back, it will be a tryout type to see who actually sticks for the rest of the season.
I would play Moore on the 4th line to start developing chemistry with those two because that is where he is going to be once Steph comes back (assuming JT works out).
If you dont want both hayes and Duke on the same line because of too much youth I would go with
Either way it will all work itself out sooner or later. Either Duke dissappears, Hayes proves he isnt ready, Mueller is awful or someone gets hurt. It will all workout
Can't wait for Thursday.. LGR!!
Stastny 25G 35A 60Pts
Stephan 17G 40A 57 Pts
So if everyone is considering Stastny a number 1 center then Stephan should be considered the same.
@scrangersfan @betweentheworlds Yea this is what I have said the last 3 days. He will be on the roster and playing. Because he cannot be recalled there is ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE the Rangers will send him down before the season. he is making the team.
The Rangers cannot take that risk of having the team fall flat on their face the first ten games while Duke just put in 5 goals in 7 games in Juniors and cannot be with them until next year.
He is making the team just on common sense.
@TomDundie To me the answer is simple. Once you send him down he isn't coming back this year. SO you at least have to give him a shot. He has earned that. If he doesn't succeed then send him down and at least we all KNOW he couldn't cut it.
But send him down now, and if the rangers start out 3-7 or whatever and Duclair has 5 goals in 7 games at Juniors then what? We wouldn't be able to bring him back and now how silly to the Rangers look??
And for that reason alone I say he gets 10 or 20 or until Stephan comes back to prove himself. You can always send him down but you can't always bring him up. Let him determine his fate. That's why i think he makes the team.
@betweentheworlds Yea that is my take. The Rangers either have to be against him playing on the big club and recognize he can they just don't want him to or at some point in the season say he isn't performing up to potential and therefore we are sending him back to Juniors.
To me he has shown if you put him with talent that is above him he plays up to that talent.
To me you at least have to give him a shot and after X amount of games if he looks overmatched send him down,
To me after finding that out, if you give him a shot and it doesn't work out you KNOWW he wasn't ready. If send him down right away the UNKNOWN of what he could have done will haunt all of us and the Rangers.
For these reasons alone i think the Rangers have no choice but to keep him ESPECIALLY if they start out terrible without him. If they start out terrible there is no call up Duclair, he is gone.
So here is something to think about which I think we are all overlooking or at least I overlooked:
I looked into whether Duclair can be recalled if sent down. And the answer (correct me if I am wrong) is that once he is sent to Juniors, you cannot recall a player from there (unless emergency). Here was the quote from Pat Leonard in the daily news:
1. Duclair is 19 years old so he is not eligible to play in the AHL this season. If he is kept on the NHL roster, he cannot be sent back down to the Hartford Wolf Pack. He can only be sent back to his junior team. If he is sent to his junior team, whether during the preseason or the regular season, he most likely stays there for the rest of the season, because recalls from juniors are much more difficult – they may only be allowed to occur on an emergency basis, I believe.
So to me the Rangers must be absolutely 100% sure they don't want Duclair on the team for the remainder of the season. There is no second shot with him.
To me this almost works in Duclairs favor because who is going to sit here and say that Duclair has no shot at helping the Rangers this season. So unless the Rangers are completely against him playing in the NHL this season and want him to continue to develop (which I don't think is the case especially with the Stephan injury), I think the Rangers have no choice but to keep him until they are certain that he is better served in Juniors.
@FrankCerbone Valid Point
@TomDundie I don't disagree completely. I would like to shelter the kids a bite too. However you are going to have Lombadi who has played one game, looked rusty and is now injured and hasn't even gotten back on the ice yet start as our 4th line center. Where as you have duclair, who is arguably been our best player PERIOD in the preseason and your not even going to give him a shot??
I dont know, I just think you can't ignore what he has done and at let him play it out until he starts falling off the scoring wagon.
I just like my chances alot better with Duclair than Lombardi. Like I said I think these lines make alot of sense
The bottom line is Lombardi is a depth player and Duke is a scorer. With Malone and Glass in the lineup to look out for them i think its a good fit.
However, I would NOT play Duke on the third line. Top 6 or send him down. He should be playing with top talent to maximize his potential.
Opening Lineup: Really think this is how it shakes out
Regulars on D and in Goal
I think Hayes makes it because he has more upside and has been just as good as Mueller/Lindburg. But wouldn't be surprised if any three were there. Only thing is if AV plans to move Moore up to the third line center then i think Mueller/lindburg win the job.
I think as long as Malone comes back and has a solid 2 games I think he is in because of the power play previous chemistry and size and grit he brings.
@Wallace1 Seriously. Its basically all our prospects against the Flyers Starting Lineup Day 1. So i guess you could say our AHL Team.
Hags Moore and Stemp I think are the only NHLers playing tonight. Klein only NHL Defensmen.
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