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11 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
@KevinTheNYRBlog Also, in regards to Sather, keep in mind the other trade that day for Raphael Diaz. Imagine the past 6 games with Justin Falk in the lineup? you'd have had the top 4 playing 27mn+. That deal has definitely bolstered the blueline
1 year ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
@Ciffy02 hope Glen has capgeek, don't know what he does without it with all the advanced scouts and all.
1 year, 1 month ago on Rangers, Callahan Inching Towards Contract Agreement
@gravey94 @NYRBlueBlog did you miss the disclaimer where i stated this is not a comparison just an example how players have further value than goal scoring? or you skimmed past that CAPS LOCK portion of my post?
@johnnyb3910 @shoot_the_goalie @NYRBlueBlog point was Gretzky (as an example)'s productiveness aside from goal scoring. Many Cally Detractors say that the reason not to sign him is his goal scoring, that's false. I brought it up as proof that there are many other aspects to the game of hockey that advanced statisticians (i talk about this at depth on my blog) don't acknowledge because it's not convenient to their point.
@Ciffy02 that's the plan. Look at LA, Chicago, Boston, Detroit etc. All the top teams replace depth with their system. That's why the farm system is so important in a salary cap era. Kristo, Lindberg and Miller will all play significant roles.
Here's what it is. There are two camps. There's the camp of fans who out think themselves. They look past the results of a game due to someones insertion in the lineup and locker room, they look past the intangibles a player brings that can't be explained on paper (i.e. silly Corsi and Fenwick ratings - the most rediculous stat i've ever heard, like hockey is baseball? and shots for while on the ice vs shots against subtracted by shots blocked and square rooted by whether or not they use a graphite stick is insane). These players draw charts of players with similiar #'s and come to the conclussion that Callahan is worthless and has to be traded. Most of these people lack SIGNIFICANT hockey experience, they might watch the games, go to the games, but they haven't played a game past squirts house league. They're experience is from playing NHL 2003 in high school cause they wanted to draw cartoons instead of wakeup at 5am on saturdays to get to the rink. Then there's the camp that played hockey, they played at multiple levels, HS, US Juniors, Canadian juniors, USHL, College d1 or d3. These guys can judge a player and a team with their eyes, something the other camp can't. Ryan Callahan passes the eye test, which is why every top analyst like Kypper, Danyeko, Ron Duguay, John MacLean etc. who've played and coached the game at all the top levels all flat out say that Ryan Callahan is a tremendous player to have on any team. Screw the Goals and the Assists, there are intangibles, ice experience, vision that can't be charted. He knows when to button down in the defensive zone, he knows when to block a shot, when to deliver a big hit, when to make a pass, when to dump when to clear. For those that think goals is everything, keep in mind, Wayne Gretzky scored his 700th goal at the age of 29, he played until 38, another 9 years, and only scored another 194 goals (21 goals/year), yet he was his teams most valuable player each season and took 2 teams to the Cup finals. (DISCLAIMER: I AM IN NO WAY COMPARING CALLAHAN TO GRETZKY, i'm just using that to show that a player can hold tremendous value without scoring goals)
@NYrangers79 @Bueller @sportsjourn Toews will easily get Crosby money.
1 year, 1 month ago on Callahan Softening on Contract Demands?; Rangers Talk Hemsky
@TheNYRBlog I'm not so sour on the idea of Hensky, especially if he only costs a 3rd. It makes things interesting as well. He's a rental and his contract expires after this year so y ou're not commiting past this season.Also, although the scoring is mediocre, he's been an assist machine in the past. The question it brings up though, is do you fully commit to being a finesse/speed team. Bringing in Hemsky and re-signing Callahan makes this a 4 line offensive team. I see nobody in t he top 9 moving to the 4th line to act as a checker, so it abandons the 4th line. With how Miller has played and Zuccarello returning, i wouldn't be surprised to see Miller & Hemsky on the 4th line. There would be zero checking on this team, but they would role 4 offensive lines which makes for a very interesting lineup especially in AV's system. I'm not in love with Hemsky, however, it makes things really intriguing.
i just died laughing from all those GIF's. With all this Cally chatter, it's a very welcome laugh!
1 year, 1 month ago on Richards Getting Engaged Is Munnderful News for Rangers Fans
@KevinTheNYRBlog @NYRBlueBlog @mlsranger no, i think AV wanted to get a read on his exhaustion level. One thing i've been worried about since the beginning of the season was a repeat of 2010 where Hank ran out of steam come playoff time. Talbot's play has been such a blessing for this team because it allows them to rest him and i always said at the beginning of the season Hank's struggles leading to Talbot's play was good for the team if Hank got right. I too want to see Hank out there, but i get the feeling that a big theme will be this team "re-clicking" and adjusting to the changes from the olympics. i.e. Zucc missing from our best line. With that said, they need to see what they have offensively and in net, they need to bring Hank along slowly and get him back into the rhythm he was in pre-Sochi. Rangers have 23 games left, and i think Talbot will play 6-8 of those. Yeah, it sucks to sit Hank vs Chicago but with 3 of the next 4 vs top 10 Goals for teams, you gotta make sure you bring Hank along perfectly with no hiccups.
1 year, 2 months ago on Staal Returns to Practice; Talbot to Start vs. Blackhawks; Possible Callup Coming
@giammarcor @NYRBlueBlog you are a little late to the party here. I apologized for coming across offensive in my questioning of his opinion. Written off as a misunderstanding. Think it's great you stick up for this site and that's very nice of you. Sorry if you were offended by my tone.
@KevinTheNYRBlog @mlsranger not as much the NHL ice, it's the Jetlag. I played for a month in Eastern Europe and when i came back i wasn't right for about 9 days. It's a smart choice to sit Hank cause there are ALOT of games down the stretch here and we need the best version of him. Also, i tend to think it was more AV making the decision, and if AV said "Hank i need you to go" i'm fairly certain he would. Keep in mind, for 2 weeks he was playing games at what is 3am-9am NY time and sleeping through the afternoon (NY Time) for a creature of habit, that takes a bit to adjust.
@KevinTheNYRBlog @NYRBlueBlog all good. What went on during the Olympics? loonies?
@KevinTheNYRBlog @NYRBlueBlog @JoeNYR Capgeek has us at 48 contracts, add 1 for Biron and i don't see St. Croix there yet so that could have us at 50. Someone lower level will have to go at some point. Keep in mind the emergency backup signed the 1 game when Hank was sick an d Talbot started.
@KevinTheNYRBlog @NYRBlueBlog @JoeNYR Well a few things factor in. 1st, the current 22 man roster would swap Dorsett for Zucc and call it even. However, if they call up Miller or Kristo they have to replace them at the AHL level and thus add contracts (whether it's 1 or 2) then the issue they run into is the 50 contract rule. With the deadline 8 days away, that's important for the mere fact that they may be trading/selling away Girardi and/or Callahan (regardless of the merits) they'd most likely bring back contracts in return which could hurt them or they'd be forced to cut someone they might not want to. All of that for calling up Kristo or Miller without giving Dorsett a shot with the 3rd line is unlikely in my opinion.
@KevinTheNYRBlog @NYRBlueBlog lol for the record, apologies if i used offensive language in my reaction to your post, that's not proper. brownie points for sticking up for your points though. (true, false, agreed or disagreed). Don't bash me on twitter though, cmon
@KevinTheNYRBlog @NYRBlueBlog @JoeNYR And i love that your defending it, i give you respect for that. However, it's true on a technicality, but like i just said before, they're not using the emergency #23 slot on that, it's not used that way.
@KevinTheNYRBlog @NYRBlueBlog Okay, i see where you're coming from, HOWEVER, take a look at every team in the league, they all carry 22 not 23 and keep that last spot for emergency (i.e. road trip need a call up or your Goalie goes down) they're not going to max out the 23rd spot without giving Dorsett a shot on that line. If you want to discuss the dropoff in talent from Zucc to Dorsett, i'm in full agreeance, it's HUGE, but they're not healthy scratching Dorsett for Miller like was insinuated in your post.
@JoeNYR @NYRBlueBlog appreciate it. People shouldn't get soo defensive when you question their opinions validity. Blogs promote free thought and speech, comments should promote the questioning of those thoughts valid or not valid. If they're valid, answer, if they're invalid, defend it or admit the invalidity and become better from it. Don't misdirect the answer's to prove your point and then make fun of them on twitter because of it. Every opinion i've ever posted on this site or any other site, i've defended gladly. The Rangers aren't going to healthy scratch Dorsett in favor of an AHL player, it's not going to happen. If Dorsett is still hurt, fine they'll do that. But with the roster limits, they're not going to manipulate the 50 contract limit (8 days from the deadline) and the 23 man roster limit (when 1 spot is kept available for emergency) to put Dorsett in the press box, it's not rational.
@KevinTheNYRBlog @NYRBlueBlog yeah, in the case Dorsett is still on the Injured Reserve (that's the **'s next to his name on the official team roster). You suggested SCRATCHING Dorsett to bring up Miller, not making a call up in case Dorsett is still injured.
@JoeNYR @NYRBlueBlog okay, i'm tolerant.... does that mean i can't question his comments? Is he allowed to say whatever he wants false or not?
@KevinTheNYRBlog Only way they make a call up is if Dorsett is not ready to go. Another route is if Staal can't play and is placed on IR for 7 days (backdated or not). If Staal is hurt, then they bring up Allen (7D) before they bring up Miller or Kristo. Also, AV's been adament in not jerking Miller back and forth and i'd be shocked to see them bring up Kristo this season.
@KevinTheNYRBlog 1) Not sure where you saw AV suggesting a call-up, but the Rangers do not have a set amount on their Roster right now. NHL rules dictate a max of 23 players on the roster, IR doesn't count. In the case Dorsett was not ready to go, they would put him on the IR(7 days) and back date to the end of the roster freeze. In the case he's healthy (as you've suggested) for them to call up Miller or Kristo. 2) the mere fact, you're suggesting dressing Miller or Kristo (roster moves aside) over Dorsett makes zero sense for the mere fact you don't healthy scratch (or waiver wire) an NHL player coming off injury in favor of an AHL player. 3) to clarify, i told you to 'sack up' cause your a joke for questioning Lundqvist's "want" to play. it's childish.
This is why this site is such a joke "...Vigneault said he wanted to speak with Lundqvist before making the decision, so I have to assume The King asked for an extra day off to rest." ---- you then go on to base an entire premise and saying he needs to "sack up" b/c AV needed to talk to him. If you heard AV's comments yesterday, they were, "i'm more worried about the effects of travel"(jet-lag) and the reason for speaking to him was to see his jetlag fatigue, so maybe you need to "sack up" and do some due dillegence before calling out a goalie. 2nd, your understanding of Roster moves is rediculous. Dorsett is an NHL level player, you're insinuating the Rangers Healthy Scratch Dorsett to call up Miller or Kristo. Furthermore, if that was to happen, Dorsett would have to be sent down to the AHL and would need to clear waivers. SOO to bring up Miller or Kristo, you're suggestion is to risk losing Dorsett to waivers. Great analysis genius.
wait till Zucc negotiates his UFA deal
1 year, 2 months ago on Callahan, Rangers to Talk Contract This Week; Multiple Teams Calling With Interest
that's just stupid. i think i became dumber from reading that
absolutely, Sather does a deal if it's a sure thing and Chris Stewart. You don't trade your captain for a "could be" if you expect to keep your reputation and job past the season. problem is, most sure things out there are guys on teams still in contention and nobody wants to downgrade a position so interest in Cally would come from an interest to upgrade and why would we want to bring in a package of 1)lesser player 2)a "could be" we've had enough nik zherdev's in NY.
1 year, 2 months ago on Only One Team Calls Callahan; Sabres Willing to Meet His Contract Demands
thanks for the nice words. Check out what else i had to say on the situation at rangersblue.wordpress.com
you really have to look at Sather's trade history to get an idea of what they are looking for here. Sather will not make a trade unless he walks away a clear winner. Think the Derek Morris deadline deal from '08, the Nash deal, the Gomez deal. He needs to feel not only he has the best hand but the trade won't bite him. Callahan for Stewart carries way too much risk for Sather to pull the trigger on that it makes me feel that Sather would want Stewart as a throw in and not a centerpiece in return for Callahan. I think St. Louis told Sather they'd be willing to trade Stewart so he did his due dillegence on him which is what created the rumor mill on him, however i feel the hold up is genuinely about St. Louis wanting Stewart to be the Center piece and Sather wanting him to be the toss in. Sather doesn't make trades unless he wins them.
i don't disagree, my guess is the only hold up in that deal is Sather wanted more in return and St. Louis wasn't willing to budge. I like the prospect of Stewart, however there are alot of negatives that come with him. The first is he's only 2 years younger than Callahan) and doesn't have the friendliest contract as this time next season he will be a rental (he's under contract this year and next for $4.2m) so you have the same demands next year from Stewart as you do this year from Cally and whereas Cally is a PK and defensive zone whiz, Stewart has stumbled in St. Louis because he dislike's the slow grinding system of St. Louis. Let's plug him into the Rangers system and he might spark some scoring but he's scored more than 20 goals only twice and both were with Colorado playing the wing with Stastny who can make a 20 goal scorer out of Carcilo playing on his wing. He's also not necessarily an assist machine and i always worry about a young player who's not fitting into a system like a Ken Hitchcock's who is a very well respected cup winning coach. I think the Rangers would want one more piece that's more of a sure thing in that deal as well as a pick/mid level prospect and i don't think St. Louis wants to give up all 3 especially if they're looking to add goaltending. Also with them in cup contention not just playoff contention i don't think they want to give up anyone else on their roster to get the deal done.
that's absolutely true. keep in mind he scored 20G's twice in Renney's system pre-tortorella so any detractor saying Cally can't play in this system is ignoring the fact that any player coming back from injury and also playing alot of defensive minutes vs top lines of other teams in his own zone are going to detract him but players are players and stats are stats, Cally will get his 20 goals, 25+Assists this year in a Rangers uniform or out of one. Most teams powerplays are a streaky thing so it's tough for one to remain so consistent but it will click agaiun and he will get his points there.
you also need to look at the names being offered in return for Callahan and how they fit within this team and the gaps being created by losing Callahan. There is no 1 for 1 replacement out there and when you list out Colombus, Buffalo, and St. Louis and what you bring back, it's not significant when you break it down. If you lose Callahan, you need to re-sign Stralman and Girardi to sure up your D , it's inevitable. so they can't afford to take on too much cap hit in return. Some names mentioned like Cam Atkinson (who's essentailly a younger yet unproven Callahan that doesn't play the important minutes yet. Also Jack Johnson was mentioned on this board, more so as a replacement for Girardi, that doesn't make any sense as his cap hit is $4.5m vs Girardi's expected $5.5m, Johnson is not on the same level defensevily as Girardi and the offensive production is NOT MUCH greater in fact it's less in aspects than Girardi's so he's in no way a replacement for Girardi although a good name. By losing Cally, you will also lose Richards, that's 2/3rds of your 2nd line (i call them 2nd line because of ice time vs the Brassard line) AV's system is built off of 3 lines rolling, and we all saw last season how this team played without depth. Miller, Lindberg, Fasth, are not ready and will probably serve as a 4th line next year than plugging into a top 9 personnel level. So you need to bring back a player who plays 17+ minutes as well as a PK'er and that's not up there. The only trade that makes sense for the Rangers is a package of a top draft pick/prospect as well as Drew Stafford and Cody Hodgson. However, Stafford is signed for $4mAAV for another season and Hodgson has a stupid contract that he's in year one of for 6 years at $4.25m. To offset bringing back $8m+ in AAV, you essentialy lose Stralman for next season so it becomes Stralman and Callahan ($9.5mil cumulative) for Stafford and Hodgson ($8.25m) for $1.25m i don't see that risk worth the gamble in any way. My point leads me to this, i for one, don't see a "Sather-esque" type deal out there where Sather walks away a true winner from a trade and actually improves the team and lightens the potential payroll all because he doesn't want to commit to a 6th or 7th season for Callahan. When you run the market out there, i don't see it existing for Sather to pull the trigger and risk of trading away a team captain, PP and PK player in the midst of his team playing .700 hockey because he's off by 24 mths from Callahan. The 5 yr vs 7 yrs stance is a game of chicken where the party that comes to the table with a 6 year offer will have to give a serious concession vis a vis if Cally says he'll take 6, Sather will ask him to come down in $ to get it done and if Sather offers 6, Cally will ask him to come up in $ to get it done. I expect we'll hear mid week that they've agreed to 6 years and if it's above $6m than Sather offered yr 6 and if it's below $6m, Cally came to the table.
i agree with you. If you look at the hats that Callahan wears in this lineup (which is why the "he doesn't fit AV's system, he's tortorella's guy" detractors are idiots IMO) you see how much needs to be filled. First and foremost, finally the Rangers have a top 10 power play and he's a very important part of that unit, you have to go ahead a replace that production. Also, he plays a great portion of the PK, again, the top PK unit is Moore and Boyle but the other half is Cally most of the time, that's another top 10 unit that gets affected. So two units that we're top 10 in the league in, are affected and most likely can't be replaced and thus will weaken. Not to mention the even strength time he plays in a game. Logistically the Rangers lose ALOT with Callahan and a prospective team looking to add him, knows that absolutely that they can imporve their PP, PK and team depth significantly by adding Callahan, that's exactly why there is significant demand for him whereas they know they have to commit years to him so he's not exactly your conventional rental. When it's all said and done, i still believe that Sather steps up to 6 years and gets it done.
eh, Jack Johnson is under contract for another 4-5 years at $4.5, if we're looking to sign Girardi for $5.5, i stay with Girardi as it's not that big of a difference and Girardi is much better defensively than Johnson and Johnsons stats (not offensive ability) are not better than Girardi's. Although Can Atkinson has some upside, he is not a sure thing or a proven commodity just yet and at 5'7, 189 lbs, it's a short term solution to a long term gap, i'd prefer to see a center in return for Callahan especially with Richards most likely gone after this season, JT Miller unproven, a weak Center free agent class, and Derek Brassard is not a sure thing for next season as he's an RFA and you never know, even with Brassard, you can't expect John Moore to center your 2nd/3rd line. As for Buffalo, i'm sure they can send back some solid draft picks and prospects but as far as who's attractive on their roster, i wouldn't look for much else other than Cody Hodgson who also is an unproven commodity and hasn't played a full season yet either. I would consider Drew Stafford who's a bigger sized Ryan Callahan but isn't much a greater fit for AV's system than Callahan (for those systematic detractors), however Stafford is only under contract for another season at $4million. I really don't see a market out there that offers a substantial return for the Rangers that solidifies this lineup as well as Callahan does, while offering the cap flexibility and re stocking the farm/prospect pool as well. I think at the end of the day, Sather will come back to the table and add a year to his offer to Callahan which should get it done in my opinion.
1 year, 2 months ago on Rangers Scout Blue Jackets/Panthers Game; Sabres Not Showing Interest in Callahan
yeah, healthy scratch Hagelin, a 20 goal scorer (on pace for) top 6 winger for a 4th line grinder. Let's break up our 2nd line to keep our 4th together. quite logical
1 year, 2 months ago on Dorsett On Schedule to Return After Olympics
no, Dorsett is a completely different player offensively. Dorsett never scored more than 12 goals in the NHL and only once has scored more than 5. If you lose Cally and buyout Richards you return to the 1st half of last season where you have zero depth on your back 6. This system cannot operate with 2 lines and 2 checking lines. While Dorsett is sound defensively, you'd need to bring back an NHL ready 2nd liner for Callahan and picks to make it worthwhile. I don't hate the thought though, the defensive and emotional style is similiar but Cally gets more pull in the locker room because he can put the puck in the net. It's tough to find a 25 goal scorer who's good defensively, plays PP and PK as well, those guys don't exist and it's why his value is so high.
1 year, 2 months ago on Rangers 2, Islanders 1
i think if the Rangers re-sign Cally which i expect to happen in all reality. If you look at what he is asking for, he's asking for the exact average of every captains contract currently in the NHL, not in the top tier (Crosby,Weber,Ovechkin) and not in the lower tier (Ladd,Salvador,Ference) but right in the middle. The league average contract for a team captain is exactly 6.5 years and a smidge above $6m per year. With that said and what he brings to the table, Sather right now is just trying to bring down the dollar amount as much as possible as every .5 million matters this offseason because that will be the difference between having a guy like BP on the 3rd line and a guy like Carcillo playing 3rd line minutes. Now with that said, once Girardi and Cally are re-signed, it's inevitable and the true essence of a cap casuality that Richards will get bought out. If the Rangers re-sign everyone for next year that will bring them right up to the cap and leave Stralman out who will probably cost around $3.5m, option 1 is let Stralman walk, keep Richards, bring up Conor Alan but that option leaves the Rangers with ZERO wiggle room in case of injury, attrition, etc. Sather will never do that, nor should he. If the Rangers buy out Richards and re-sign everyone else including Stralman, that leaves them with $3million (give or take a few) under the cap. It doesn't put them in the running for top tier FA's but the Rangers will expect Brassard to continue to progress as he has and they'll need to find a Center for the 3rd line, that shouldn't be difficult for $3m, especially if Oscar Lindberg is ready, he could project to be more than we hope for on that 3rd line and leave us with $3million under the cap to play with. Needless to say, keeping Richards leaves you with alot of gaping holes, you need to find a top 4 D and you'll have to let a few guys walk you'd like to re-sign and might not have the same depth as this year. Buying out Richards, inevitably leaves Sather with a)flexibility and b) more options. Unfortunately, there's no other way to crumble the cookie and have both.
This is the annual cap hit if you buyout Richards;
Brad Richards buyout from CapGeek.com
From 2017-2020 (prob the twilight years of this teams core) you will have to lose $7m from the cap. Yes you save money until then but is it worth it? Food for thought
1 year, 2 months ago on Richards Misses Practice, Will Play Tonight; Cally Wants to Remain a Ranger
I don't want to come off offensive, i mean this in the most honest respectful and genuine way possible but while engaging in the discussions on this blog, i'm seeing major comments made by administrators of this blog that while being unsubstantiated and factually misleading are also not backed up when questioned. Again, i'm not trying to be offensive, but as a reader request, could you guys PLEASE, follow up some statements you make of expectations you have that are questioned by readers with some answers and not moving on to more comments? it'd make for much better discussion. Again, i'm hoping not to come off offensive in anyway shape or form, i love the work you guys do on this blog.
Kevin, take a look at the Cap for this year and for next year. Can you please show me the NEED for the rangers to sign him to $4m/year and for him to take a paycut? Sather can sign Girardi, Cally and the rest of the team to what they want and still have $1 or $2 million under the cap, so how on earth can you say honestly that the rangers need the financial relief of their Captain being the onoly guy on the team taking a paycut YOY?
absolutely a deal will get done. thinking Sather is going to go out and trade the team Captain in a year where the team has a chance to make a run (not win it all, but yes make a run) will never occur. Anybody suggesting otherwise is not looking at 1) suitable buyers (west coast teams with prospects NHL ready that fill our offensive needs i.e. potential top 6 winger/center) and 2) Callahan's true value to this team and system. Sather wants to trade him as much as i want to start Dan Blackburn tonight. They'll get a deal done in the $5m-$5.5m deal for 6-7 years.
i don't see that, but i can see him taking 6 but with 7 you can pay less i feel.
ok it's not the extra 3 years that Cano went to Seattle for, it's the almost extra $60 million Cano left for. You turn away an extra $60million and talk to me. and @herman_nyrblog how can you justify Cally's "want" to be here with him discounting himself over 200% his market value on the LOW END. that's absolutely irrational to say, that he'd be a true ranger if he took the same contracat he took as an RFA on a bridge deal 4 years ago. stop it, you're spreading insanity by even suggesting that should be the measure of a hometown discount.