I became a Leafs fan back in 1978. Lanny McDonald scored over the Islanders in game 4 of the Quarterfinals and I was hooked for life.
@McDickey @Leafs2 Isles1 @mike_84 You make some good points. But the Leafs are already at the cap. They can't bring in a guy making $5 mil a year. Who are you sending the other way? Bozak? Does L.A. want that trade? I don't think so. And like it or not, Richards is 30. His way of playing wears him down over the year, and he's only getting older. Playing top line minutes the way he plays is asking too much of him...he'll end up just getting injured.
1 week, 3 days ago on Game Review: Game #18, Buffalo Sabres 6 vs. Toronto Maple Leafs 2
@mike_84 @Leafs2 Isles1 True. However, they brought in a lot of expensive players this year, so spending money doesn't seem like a concern.
@McDickey @mike_84 Richards is expensive and on the downside of his career. Bjugsted is young, big, inexpensive and just starting out. He's having a tough beginning to his season, but that isn't the end of the world for a 22 year old.
@mike_84 I think the Leafs could get Nick Bjugstad from Florida. First rounder. 6'6", 218lbs.
@Mattmark @Lescott @Mortagleus when I say "brake," I mean "break."
3 weeks, 1 day ago on GDT: Game #12, Toronto Maple Leafs at Arizona Coyotes (9 p.m., SNO)
@Mattmark @Lescott @Mortagleus I know I'm Johnny-Come-Lately on this one, but the debate intrigues me. Some might say that part of the game is knowing how to bend the rules or even brake them without getting caught. Kind of like bumping the pin-ball machine or reneging in Euchre hoping that the play will be so fast that no one will notice.
Some could argue that "the trap" or "a pick" are examples of taking advantage of rules even though the end result might not be in the true nature of hockey.
As for this move in particular. I don't like it. A hook is common in hockey. Some you get away with, some you don't. It is part of the game. Just knocking the net off of its moorings is not an "in-the-moment" type play. If it is allowed, than the game opens up to a lot of shenanigans just to stop play.
@BoneChompski Even Carolina's scored more than Buffalo (in 3 fewer games).
3 weeks, 3 days ago on GDT: Game #11, Chicago Blackhawks at Toronto Maple Leafs (7 p.m., CBC)
Any news on when Booth is going to be ready to come back. I wonder who is going to get pushed off the team when he comes back.
@docmma I was listening to sports radio one morning last week, and the hosts were going on about how there is no team in the league that needs McDavid more than Arizona. It drove me nuts because they then went on to talk about how Arizona just needs to keep its head above financial water until McDavid does for them what Crosby did for the Penguins.
So, the NHLs plan is basically to allow the Leafs and a handful of other profitable teams to keep teams like Arizona afloat just long enough so that those teams can get good draft picks and then start winning.
Sometimes it seems like there is a conspiracy.
@Mattmark @Leafs2 Isles1 True. But Kessel also scored in the 4-0 and 4-1 games. Its not like he always gets the pivotal goal.
@Mattmark I know. It's like saying that the team wins more often when the goalie has a high save percentage. I wonder if you looked at a guy like Polak and tracked his goals. I'd bet that when he scores, his team is more likely to win too.
@docmma @Leafs2 Isles1 @Wilbur @Bring the Cup Home I think just about everyone agrees with you. I'd like to see more of Carrick too.
@Wilbur @Leafs2 Isles1 @docmma @Bring the Cup Home Yeah. I'd go for that. Hopefully Booth will get going and he'd be a possibility for deadline deal as well.
@docmma @djamon @Leafs2 Isles1 If they continue to play like they are, they'll want more money and a few years. Don't get me wrong. I really like both guys. They're teaching the Leafs to play with some jam. But I also have high hopes for some of the guys on the Marlies. In the next 2 or 3 years, we're going to want Nylander and Gauthier playing, maybe Lievo, Brown, Verhaeghe. There's only so many spots.
@docmma @TheLoovTrain @Leafs2 Isles1 @Bring the Cup Home I'd go that route if the trade would bring back a quality first line center. I just don't know if that's a possibility.
@djamon @Leafs2 Isles1 Because I don't think they are in the Leafs long term plans. They are UFAs. They'll want a raise. Their are guys in the minors who are ready do come up.
@TheLoovTrain @Leafs2 Isles1 @docmma @Bring the Cup Home I know. But I've been thinking about how the Leafs have lost guys like MacArthur. I think that as long as the Leafs are just making the playoffs, they can move some of these pieces out for the future. Make the playoffs, then bring some young, hungry guys up to get some experience.
@docmma @Bring the Cup Home I have to say that one of the reasons I'm happy with the way Winnik and Santorelli are playing is because I could see trading them at the deadline. We've got some players in the minors ready to come up. These two can prove themselves here, get traded to a playoff contender (good for them) and bring us some draft picks or prospects.
3 weeks, 4 days ago on GDT: Game #11, Chicago Blackhawks at Toronto Maple Leafs (7 p.m., CBC)
@mr_hanie He didn't get his nose broken. That's a step in the right direction for him.
@T K O @Wilbur Yeah. But another thing that I like about the Leafs is that they have some options on the team now. When other teams compensate for this new line-up, the Leafs aren't stuck just throwing the same guys over the boards on the same lines all season long. Guys like Winnik and Clarkson have shown that they can move in the line-up. I'm willing to bet that Komorov and Santorelli could as well.
@Wilbur @deedrag Being 6"2', 200+ lbs and willing to throw his weigh around a bit is exactly what Kessel and Kadri need on their line. Maybe Kadri will start feeling a bit more courageous again.
@Jay31 @Leafs2 Isles1 Chicago's a very defensively responsible team. I think against most of the rest of the league, some of those passing plays end up in the back of the net.
Think the league was figuring out how Kessel and Bozak play together. Switching the lines was a good move. Teams will have to do their homework on Kessel / Kadri.
With the way the Leafs have played the last two games, is there still a feeling that Carlyle has lost the room?
3 weeks, 4 days ago on Game Review: Game #10, Toronto Maple Leafs 4, Columbus Blue Jackets 1
@Knights2Leafs @Burtonboy I always want the Leafs to win. But if they lose tonight, I can shrug it off as playing back-to-back nights and having to face one of the leagues premier teams.
@Cameron19 @Leafs2 Isles1 @Yaknowwhat @Burtonboy No, I'm certain it was Gardiner. It makes sense. Everyone thinks that Burke just robbed Anaheim in that trade. But Anaheim knew exactly what they were giving and gaining (two guys who didn't fit their long term plans for one guy that did).
4 weeks ago on Game Review: Game #9, Toronto Maple Leafs 4 vs. Buffalo Sabres 0
@Yaknowwhat @Burtonboy I read a line by a scout (albeit an anonymous one) that stated that Gardiner got on the wrong side of Anaheim's management because he insisted on going back to college when Anaheim wanted him to go to the AHL. What I read into that was that Anaheim didn't like having a 20 year thinking that he knew better than them.
@Yaknowwhat @Potcy The problem with trying to get 3 or 4 first round draft picks is that you're setting your team up to having 3 or 4 rookies playing on the team at the same time. Rookies don't know how to play in the NHL. They need to be taught by veterans. I think that too many rookies allows for too many mistakes. That can get contagious.
I've been looking around the league for real chances to get a good young center. Teams don't trade these guys away. What does everyone think of Bjugstad in Florida? He's big, has good hands, and seems to try and care. If we could get him, our centres could be Bjugstad, Holland and Gauthier. That's some good size down the middle.
I'm at a point where I'd be willing to see the Leafs trade Kessel to Florida for Bjugstad and something. Florida should want to win sooner rather than later (Luongo isn't going to be getting better). A top line of Huberdeau, Barkov and Kessel would be enticing to them. Kessel wouldn't have to be the best guy on that line.
1 month ago on Game Review: Game #8, Boston Bruins 4 vs. Maple Leafs 1
@ingy56 @MaxwellHowe @docmma @loomx Yeah, then we'll all have eternity to blame the ice conditions.
1 month ago on Game Day: Game #8, Boston Bruins at Toronto Maple Leafs (7 p.m., CBC)
@ingy56 @Leafs2 Isles1 @wendelsfist Everything looks better in black and white. Mamma don't take my Kodachrome away.
@ingy56 @Leafs2 Isles1 @wendelsfist Was born in 1968. Its the only movie I've ever seen.
@ingy56 @Leafs2 Isles1 @wendelsfist Just enough hope to spend some money on free agents and pretend that their as good as a top 4 draft pick.
@wendelsfist You know what would happen. The Leafs would be in last place all season long, and then have a miracle run over the last 15 games - just enough to draft 9th or 10th.
Get a first line of tough veterans with a history of playing hard. I don't care if they are stars. I just care that they are hard to play against and that they play with pride. Same as the first D pairing. Make them your leaders. Then, slowly start bringing up the guys from the Marlies. If they are lazy or soft, let the team leaders grab them by the scruff of the neck and shake them around a little bit. If they don't like it, get rid of them. You let those vets also know that they are their to protect the young guys on the ice until they earn their stripes. This team needs an "all for one" attitude that is seriously lacking.
@T K O yeah. I never bought it. Other GMs knew what they were giving up.
Carlyle's got to know that he's going to get fired eventually. He's been around the league long enough. I'd like him to make a statement. Sit Kessel for a game or two. Throw Bozak up there too and Gardiner as well. See if those guys have enough professional pride to come back and play with some effort.
@B_Leaf I just don't think a rookie on the 4th line would make that much of a difference.
@loomx 'cause we know we wouldn't get much back for him. The other guys might get a return to build around.
@JWaterdrager @WendelGilmour @Kenny Powers I don't even think they are a rush squad. Their a "we like to have fun" squad. How many times did they "rush" to the Bs blueline without the puck, leaving the Leafs D stuck with no one to pass it to?
@Hmmm @Leafs2 Isles1 @Leafbites Well, you're right about that. The Leafs showed truculence 4 times tonight.
@Leafbites Yeah. What I find amazing is that these were the guys he brought in after his truculence and testosterone speeches.
@GreekGod @Cloud09 Maybe he should start caring BEFORE he gets the one armed face wash.
@Jordan29 @Savo43 If you threw a cookie into a corner, my 4 year old would come out with it if all he had to do was push Kessel around.
@Savo43 @Leafs2 Isles1 @Jordan29 I think I made my point. Kessel is getting paid more to be a Leaf than the combined income of every Leaf fan I know over our entire lifetimes. For that money, he can try...TRY...when the he's playing the other team's 3rd and 4th line.
@Savo43 @Jordan29 Well, he's an $8 000 000 #2 guy then. What are we supposed to pay the #1 guy? For $8 million, he's earning enough to try to get the puck against the other teams 3rd and 4th line. I've got no sympathy for his lackluster play.
@vinoa @Leafs2 Isles1 @Komas Taberle You're right. It is a "what if game."
But, if we had the proverbial "potato" for a GM, who just drafted the guy that was rated next highest, I wonder if things wouldn't be better. Seems like the pressure to "win' and "make an impact" have hounded our GMs for a long time (as mentioned by ingy56).
1 month ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday
@Komas Taberle @Leafs2 Isles1 So we would have young stars in a goalie, defence and centre. We would be deep at center. Oh, and part of the Kessel trade was also Dougie Hamilton. So, our D would be Reilly, Hamilton, Gunnarson, Stralman, Blacker and Schenn.
@Komas Taberle @Leafs2 Isles1 You wouldn't call Rask a potential star?
Read Burtonboy's earlier post about trades, which got me thinking.
What would have been (an old Leaf fans saying) if the Leafs just didn't trade anyone and kept all draft picks (and managed to draft who was drafted in their place)
Would our centers now be Seguin, Steen, Kadri, Mitchel and Stajan (one of them playing a wing)? What about defence? Reilly, Gunnarson, Stralman, Blacker, Schenn and Holzer (maybe White would still be servicable)? Rask and Reimer would be our goalies. Wingers would be Tlusty, Kulemin, Stalberg, Boyes, Frattin, and maybe some guys from the Marlies or even Antropov or Poni would still be around.
I really wonder how that team would be compared to the current team.
Above average goaltending. Stronger down the middle. A defence with mobility.