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@mcloki @Buds Mackenzie  You mean Colaiacovo and Steen to St. Louis for Lee Stempniak. Burke had good trades, but he also made bad trades.

2 days, 11 hours ago on Game 76 Scoring Chances: Maple Leafs 4 vs. Senators 3 (OT)

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@Buds Mackenzie  He put too much faith in the U.S. collegiate system. That's why he drafted Biggs from Miami University.

2 days, 11 hours ago on Game 76 Scoring Chances: Maple Leafs 4 vs. Senators 3 (OT)

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@Buds Mackenzie  I'm not convinced the JVR Schenn deal was that much of a coup.


First of all, I remember Burke crowing that he and Ron Wilson were better for Schenn's development than playing another year of junior. Who knows, but in my opinion, he diminished the career potential of Schenn.


Sure, JVR's got plenty of skill. But Philly was looking to move him. Every time I see JVR try to score in some low percentage way (like his though the legs shot in close) I just roll my eyes.

2 days, 11 hours ago on Game 76 Scoring Chances: Maple Leafs 4 vs. Senators 3 (OT)

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I don't get the admiration for Brian Burke. His strong point was how he interacted with the media. He markets himself very well too. But he really was a poor judge of hockey talent.


Guys he brought in usually came with warts. JVR, Kessel, Phaneuf, Gardiner are all examples of players who came to the Leafs because their original teams were trying to get rid of them.


He really believed that guys like Christian Hanson and Brayden Irwin were good finds.


He thought Tim Conolly, Mike Komisarek and Garnet Exelby were going to make the Leafs better.


His draft record was very poor.


He said he was going to make the Leafs tougher to play against and then made a point of bringing in players who were easier to play against.

2 days, 12 hours ago on Game 76 Scoring Chances: Maple Leafs 4 vs. Senators 3 (OT)

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@Cameron19 @Leafs2 Isles1 I know that it is not a great analogy, but look at Dany Heatly. He was a two time 50 goal scorer (who just scored 39 goals) and whose character was questioned. He was traded for Milan MichálekJonathan Cheechoo and a second-round pick. You think that if his character wasn't better that Ottawa wouldn't have gotten more back for him? I  know that he demanded a trade and that had its affects. But playing lousy when your character is questioned has its repercussions too.

4 days, 7 hours ago on Game 75 Scoring Chances: Panthers 4 vs. Maple Leafs 1

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@FRyan @Leafs2 Isles1 Sure, but there were already misgivings about these guys for their lack of drive. This year makes it more obvious. 


Also, how many guys cash in on one good year. If a guy like Clarkson can get a payday (and he was offered money by more than one team) for a great year, than a guy like Kessel can have his value diminished for another year of poor effort.


Honestly, if Kessel gets 40 goals this year or JVR gets 30 goals or Gardiner gets 40 points, than they would be a hot commodity and trading them would improve the Leafs quite a bit.

4 days, 8 hours ago on Game 75 Scoring Chances: Panthers 4 vs. Maple Leafs 1

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The problem with tanking is that the team is taking from Peter to pay Paul. Sure, its great to have a better draft pick. But to get the better draft pick, the trade value of the Leafs is also tanking. What's better, getting the 4th pick or the 8th pick? The difference evaporates when, to get the 4th pick, you have to settle for much less for Kessel and Gardiner and JVR etc and etc. You could even argue that, if those guys were playing lights out right now, their return would be better than whatever a number 4 draft pick will ever be.

4 days, 8 hours ago on Game 75 Scoring Chances: Panthers 4 vs. Maple Leafs 1

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I wonder if he'll end up being better or worse than Christian Hanson? Guess it doesn't hurt finding out.

1 week, 3 days ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Nikita Soshnikov to 3-year Entry-Level Deal

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@docmma  Right now, the MSM mimics social media. Reporting and points of view are usually terrible because media outlets are basing everything on what is "hot" on the internet. This is done in an effort to boost ratings. The fact that it is inane doesn't seem to matter.

2 weeks, 3 days ago on GDT: Game #69, Toronto Maple Leafs at Calgary Flames (8 p.m., SN)

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@Xxxxxnew  The Leafs were an up-and-coming team back in 1977-78. Then Harold just destroyed them. Since, then, being a Leaf fan has mostly been like being in an abusive relationship. You keep on hoping that tomorrow will be a better day, and sometimes it is, but mostly it just gets worse.

2 weeks, 5 days ago on Game 68 Scoring Chances: Maple Leafs 4 vs. Sabres 3 (SO)

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On the media. I really don't think that it is hard to play in Toronto, if you're a player who is willing to play. Guys like Gilmore and Clark (and go back further to Sittler and McDonald) have been put on a pedestal by fans, even though the Leafs never won the Cup with them in the line-up. What they did was they played with their hearts. Most Leaf fans know when a guy is trying. That's what the fans want.


Sundin never really played with his heart like those other guys did. As a result, many fans don't put him on the same pedestal.


Kessel...well, he's sowing what he has reaped. He can't stand the media (main stream or social), but he also takes no responsibility for why the media has turned on him and the Leafs. If the Leafs were to make it into the playoffs and Kessel were to have scored some important goals in that journey, he would be idolized.


To sum it up. Playing in Toronto isn't as hard as it is let on to be. As long as you play to the best of your abilities and show that you care. If you don't, than the fans will eat you up and the media will too...because fans drive what they say.

3 weeks ago on Leafs Notebook – March 10

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@ninepaces @gilmourhalloffame @Leafs2 Isles1  funny...I wrote the same phrase (I did and I was) and then deleted it.

3 weeks, 2 days ago on GDT: Game #66, St. Louis Blues at Toronto Maple Leafs (7 p.m., CBC)

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@HHT @Leafs2 Isles1  I agree with your stance that he's the kind of player you bring in when your team is already formed in a strong manner and you need some scoring.


Right now, whether anyone wants to admit it or not, he's one of the guys that the team looks to for its identity...and he should not be that guy. His comments to the media show it.


When Burke brought him in, and I know that he was younger then, but when he first joined the Leafs, the team actually got worse.

3 weeks, 2 days ago on GDT: Game #66, St. Louis Blues at Toronto Maple Leafs (7 p.m., CBC)

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I don't know if this is being positive or being negative.


The Leaf's need to trade Kessel. I really think that he is not a positive influence on the team. After trading him, the Leaf's will improve. Addition by subtraction. The rebuild will go a lot quicker than anticipated. Kessel has got speed and a great shot. But he lacks a sense of responsibility - on the ice and off the ice. It is that lack of responsibility that is why the Leaf's have faltered so much since his time in the blue and white. 

3 weeks, 2 days ago on GDT: Game #66, St. Louis Blues at Toronto Maple Leafs (7 p.m., CBC)

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@Burtonboy @Jay_Berg  Another negative aspect of guaranteed contracts occurs when a player gets a career changing injury. I know that it is not the players fault if he gets a concussion or really bad injury. But if he's locked in for 5 or more years at a high salary and then cannot play at that level any more, it really makes no sense that his cap hit remains the same. There's got to be a way to resolve the problem,

3 weeks, 2 days ago on GDT: Game #66, St. Louis Blues at Toronto Maple Leafs (7 p.m., CBC)

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@wiski Two of those teams wouldn't make it into the playoffs if they continued at that rate of pts/game.  22 pts in 20 games means 90 pts over 82 games. 24 pts in 20 games gives a team 98 pts, which is just enough to get in as one of the bottom seeds.

3 weeks, 3 days ago on Game 65 Scoring Chances: Lightning 4 vs. Maple Leafs 2

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@NiagaraFallsThunder @Xxxxxnew  I really think that the way he moved to Vancouver revealed his flaw as a hockey player. He just lacked the final gear that I want to see.

3 weeks, 3 days ago on Game 65 Scoring Chances: Lightning 4 vs. Maple Leafs 2

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@Burtonboy  Analytics is really like fishing in a barrel with a shotgun. The better teams will be statistically better using any statistical measurement because they are better teams. The stats behind analytics are no better than using +/- . Its like saying that the best way of measuring intelligence is to look at high school report card marks. Sure, most people who got top marks were intelligent. But I think that it is pretty well understood that those marks miss a lot.

3 weeks, 4 days ago on Game 65 Scoring Chances: Lightning 4 vs. Maple Leafs 2

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@deedrag 


This team might not be built like a Stanly Cup contender. But they certainly have the talent make the playoffs. Your assessment of player talent is based on a Stanly Cup contender.


Yes, it is the GMs who have put this team together, not the players.


But there is another way of looking at it though.


The players are responsible for what happens on the ice. If the team is winning, then the negative comments about Phaneuf go away and are replaced by positive comments. If Kessel scored more important goals (eg. game tieing and game winning goals) than the team would win more. Ask the players, and they all say that they think they have a good team, which would be a vote of confidence for what the GMs have done.


Kessel is blaming the media, while taking no responsibility. If he wants to back Phaneuf up, then he should do so on the ice.


What I find upsetting is that Kessel and Gardner have both taken steps backwards as players since getting their long term deals. That's one of the major reasons why this team is not successful.

3 weeks, 5 days ago on Ron Wilson: “Leafs Rebuild will take 7 or 8 years”

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Here's a questions. What happens if Horton retires? I assume that he won't because it would mean that he would stop being paid. So then, what would happen if the Leaf's offered Horton a job in management for $5 million a year. If he retired then, would all of the cap implications of his contract be gone altogether?

1 month ago on Friday Mashup: It Really Happened

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@MLHS_Luke  I see this as a definite short term (next couple of years) way for the Leafs to improve. Carry the salary of decent Free Agents on one year deals for half the year. Then, trade them for some draft picks. It helps the players (they get a shot at proving themselves after being cast aside by their original club), it helps the Leafs (draft picks), it helps the other teams (they save some money by not having to pay a "role player" for the whole year and can wait until towards the end of the season before making decisions on who they need).

1 month ago on Daniel Winnik Traded to Pittsburgh

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@Burtonboy  Again, you can't compare Kessel to other elite players because those other elite players missed a lot of time due to injury. They got injured because they played more hockey (i.e., tough playoff runs) and they play tougher minutes. And why doesn't Kessel have more PP points? Because he is defended against. The slightest defence is all that is necessary to slow him down. Carlyle's whole system was based on keeping Kessel away from defensive structures.


He needs to be traded. No tears shed. And we have to resolve ourselves to getting someone back whose stats are not nearly as good but who is a better hockey player.

1 month, 2 weeks ago on Bob McKenzie on Tyler Bozak & Dion Phaneuf interest, Phil Kessel rumours

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@Burtonboy  Narratives are powerful.


For instance, look at last years statistics. Who is missing?


Malkin, because he played 60 games, Patrick Kane, because he played 69 games, Duchene played 71 games, Tavares played 59 games, James Neal played 59 games, etc.


Every year, many of the NHL elite miss a lot of games. Why? I'd say a lot of it has to do with wear and tear (long post seasons, playing hard and playing tough minutes against elite defenders).


Every year, the most consistent part of Kessel's game is that he doesn't get injured. Even the one year where the Leaf's made the playoffs was a shortened season, which meant less wear and tear.


I'm a Leaf fan for 40 years. But I am not a fan of Kessel and it drives me crazy that people are always dredging up statistics and excuses for him.


He's an excellent skater and has an excellent shot. But pointing out statistics like this are like telling the world to be impressed with Einstein because he could do his taxes.


When you have incredible talent, you need to do something with it other than not get injured.

1 month, 2 weeks ago on Bob McKenzie on Tyler Bozak & Dion Phaneuf interest, Phil Kessel rumours

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@Top_Jimmy  I think that there are players like Winnik available every year. This is one way for the Leafs to improve in the short term. Find the diamond in the rough free agents. Sign them for a year and then trade them off at the trade deadline. That way, we can stockpile draft picks and prospects for virtually nothing (2/3 of a season from a guy making $1 million a year who we got without trading anyone). Use the new analytics team to find these guys and then find the prospects with the most upside that we can get for them.

1 month, 2 weeks ago on Bob McKenzie on Tyler Bozak & Dion Phaneuf interest, Phil Kessel rumours

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@Hammertownleaffan @Leafs2 Isles1 I see what you're saying. All systems can be taken advantage of. However, especially because of the money the playoffs generate, I don't see teams missing on purpose. A bubble team, with a great draft pick, almost instantly becomes a better team. So, teams that are almost there are made all the better and can complete more quickly with the best in the league. As for the worse teams in the league. It would promote them to actually do something to improve. Right now, there is an argument that all Edmonton is doing is destroying the careers of the best prospects.

1 month, 2 weeks ago on Friday Mashup: “If it’s not here, it’s not here”

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Not that anything can be done about this, but wouldn't it be better if the 17th place team got the best chance at the #1 draft pick, and then go down from their (18th place team gets next best chance, 19th best team gets 3rd best chance and so on).


Teams that fight hard all year long and then miss the playoffs by a point or two would get rewarded. None of this tanking on purpose to lose. Losing should never be rewarded.

1 month, 2 weeks ago on Friday Mashup: “If it’s not here, it’s not here”

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@Mind Bomb @Leafs2 Isles1 @Cameron19  I did. There are a number of better hockey players in the league. They play so hard that they actually get injured and have to take time off of playing. They miss games and that affects their point totals. Also, Carlyle played Kessel in situations where he could score. The entire system Carlyle uses was so that Kessel could score. Kessel gets more ice time than he deserves and easier ice time than almost all elite forwards. Let's say we gave a guy like Kyle Wellwood (remember him) the soft ice time and minutes that Kessel got and then played him 20 minutes a game. Wellwood would have potted at least 25 goals a year. So, we're paying Kessle $8 million a year to score 10 more goals than a guy who can't even make an NHL roster.

1 month, 2 weeks ago on Friday Mashup: “If it’s not here, it’s not here”

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@Cameron19 @Leafs2 Isles1  You're just giving him another excuse. Who he's playing with doesn't affect that he doesn't play with full effort. Doesn't matter who you play with, you can still drive the net or win a battle in the corners. Also, there are less talented teams who make the playoffs. Its a long season and grit and determination are needed to win.

1 month, 2 weeks ago on Friday Mashup: “If it’s not here, it’s not here”

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I can't agree with the sentiment of this article.


Kessel is not a Leaf great.


He's an excellent skater with an excellent shot. That is it.


He doesn't know how, nor does he seem to want to know how to play a complete game. He is moody. He doesn't give his full effort. He doesn't prepare himself well for the season. He doesn't prepare himself well for games. One of the main reasons why he has been a consistent top 10 player in the league is because he doesn't get injured. He doesn't get injured because he doesn't play a hard game. He gives up on any difficult situation on the ice. When the chips are down, he skates away from trouble.


Too many people line up to give this guy excuses. There is a reason why Boston traded him. There is a reason why the Bruins couldn't stand him, even after he was traded, and played with extra aggression towards him.


Before saying he's a Leaf Great, look at the Leaf's win/loss record since Kessel got his payday contract.

1 month, 2 weeks ago on Friday Mashup: “If it’s not here, it’s not here”

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@mtommy @AlbertaMapleLeaf  Not to mention his quip, "I don't really skate much in the off season...or the regular season."

1 month, 2 weeks ago on GDT: Game #56, Toronto Maple Leafs at New York Islanders (7 p.m., TSN4)

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@Dan39 Look what we got Bernier for.  Wasn't it a 2nd and Matt Frattin. 

1 month, 2 weeks ago on Tuesday Mashup: Reimer to start third consecutive

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@Pent_House @Cameron19 @GibsonLPStudio  Keep in mind that we picked up Panik for nothing and he started playing for the Leafs ahead of all their prospects. Was Ashton better? Guess we'll never know. But the fact that the Leafs played Panik and not Ashton suggests that their were good reasons not to play Ashton. (Panik was Tampas second round the year they chose Ashton I believe).

1 month, 2 weeks ago on Game 54 Scoring Chances: Maple Leafs 5 vs. Oilers 1

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After reading this article, it occurred to me that, right now, our team is playing like it did in 2008 - 2009 when Jason Blake was our top scorer. Six years later, we're exactly where we were right before we signed Kessel and Phaneuf.

1 month, 3 weeks ago on Leafs Notebook – February 3

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Scoring chances per 60 minutes 5-on-5 under Carlyle: 26.7.

Scoring chances per 60 minutes 5-on-5 under Horachek: 26.6.


I'd say that that is one of the problems with analytics. Not all scoring chances are the same, but they are all analysed in the same way.


You either believe that the entire Leafs team has lost their ability to score, or you believe that  their style of play has changed and that has resulted in a difference in quality of scoring chances.

1 month, 3 weeks ago on Monday Mashup: Goals? Never heard of ‘em

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@ingy56 @Leafs2 Isles1 @B_Leaf @MaxwellHowe  I guess that what irks me is that he gets the biggest pay cheque on  the team and thinks that it is all because he has talent. At some point, you have to work for your money. He's like a starving artist who thinks that he should get rewarded for his creativity and ability. At least the artist is starving as a result of his outlook.

1 month, 4 weeks ago on Saturday Mashup: In Philly Tonight

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@ingy56 @B_Leaf @MaxwellHowe  Really? Through know fault of his own? Their is a reason he never gets injured. The fact that he's one of the top scoring players in the league has less to do with him scoring a lot and more to do with the fact that other players who score a lot get injured because they are trying harder to win. Every team has a top scoring player. That player's numbers on poor teams are often inflated due to lack of depth. You put Kessel on a better team and his point totals go down.

1 month, 4 weeks ago on Saturday Mashup: In Philly Tonight

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@Hmmm @B_Leaf @MaxwellHowe  It is not his talent that is in question. It is his effort.

1 month, 4 weeks ago on Saturday Mashup: In Philly Tonight

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@Xxxxxnew  I think that was because Carlyle knew how to play him. Everyone gave Carlyle a hard time. But I really believe that he coached to win, knew how to match lines and chose a style of play that fit this dysfunctional team best.


While the sample size is small, we are seeing how well this team plays a more defensive style. Let's face it, teams often win a game or two when they get a new coach.

1 month, 4 weeks ago on Saturday Mashup: In Philly Tonight

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@Xxxxxnew  The Leafs had 16 back to backs last year, which was about average. The question is, how far did they travel when playing them. I don't have that information handy. But when you're playing in Florida more than you should, I'd say that their is a good chance that the Leafs traveled more than they had to for those back to backs.

1 month, 4 weeks ago on Saturday Mashup: In Philly Tonight

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@MaxwellHowe @sniperstar  That's the part that bugs me the most. I don't care if you like your captain or not. I don't care if your captain is a jerk. When you're on the ice, you play for the sweater on your back. You play to win or you shouldn't be playing. It says a lot about the character of the team when they don't play with professional pride.

1 month, 4 weeks ago on Saturday Mashup: In Philly Tonight

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@sniperstar @Leafs2 Isles1 @B_Leaf  Yeah. His problem was not being a good judge of goaltending talent.

1 month, 4 weeks ago on Saturday Mashup: In Philly Tonight

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@Xxxxxnew  It would be ludicrous to claim that the Ballard years were anything but atrocious. I don't even include those years in my thinking.


Over the past 20 years or so, we've made it to the third round 4 times. I'd say that that is above average for the league.


You think that, for one reason or another, there has been some bad luck thrown in their too (everything from Gretzky's high stick game to Sundin getting injured in the playoffs to Owan Nolan getting injured after giving up too much for him to how Larry Murphy played in Toronto to Brian Berard's eye injury...and the list goes on). All teams have those kinds of problems, but I can't help but feel like the Leafs have had more.

1 month, 4 weeks ago on Saturday Mashup: In Philly Tonight

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@Radar O'Rielly @Leafs2 Isles1  Some of the blame is in the mirror. But, as an example, look at the schedule. Their is no reason for the Leafs to play as many back-to-back games as they do. Their are plenty of teams within a short flight of Toronto. But the league wants to fill seats in Tampa Bay and Florida. The end result is some sold-out games for those teams and a poor schedule for the Leafs. I know the same can be said for Montreal to an extent, but I think Montreal knows how to get their way better than Toronto.

1 month, 4 weeks ago on Saturday Mashup: In Philly Tonight

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@B_Leaf  I agree with you. The Leafs' actually draft pretty well. When the draft is studied, the Leafs come out being middle of the pack. But they draft middle of the pack without many first and second round picks. I think that Burke was a pretty poor judge of talent as well. Their new team should do much better.

1 month, 4 weeks ago on Saturday Mashup: In Philly Tonight

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@Xxxxxnew  But you have to ask what the roots of mismanagement are. I believe that ownership wants a winning team. That puts a lot of pressure on management to make it happen. The pressure causes management to make mistakes. Pressure has a tendency to do that. I think Burke wanted to replicate the Gilmore years, not realizing how unlikely that was (hubris will do that).


The Leafs actually spent a lot of money during the Sundin/Quinn era, and they had a number of years where they had the potential to make it to the Cup finals.

1 month, 4 weeks ago on Saturday Mashup: In Philly Tonight

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I think that the NHL has taken almost every advantage that the Leafs' might have away from them. It's a problem of trying to make it in the States. The majority of the teams in the league are in poor NHL locations and are not making any money. Yet, they can out vote the minority of teams that are in good NHL locations and do make money. Rubbing salt into the wounds, the profitable teams share their money with the money losing teams. That allows teams in poor NHL markets to survive lean years, where they are no good, until they can reap the rewards of high draft picks. Their is little fan pressure on those teams and, because they are kept afloat by revenue-sharing, there is little financial pressure either. So, the Leafs stink year in year out as management tries too hard to fix the team quickly, all the while suffering to watch as they pay the league's bills so that the best young players can get drafted elsewhere.

Like many others, I think that where the Leafs' can use their money is in scouting, analytics, salary cap number crunchers, coaching and other management positions.

For the next 2 or 3 years, I'd like to see the Leafs make more off season moves like signing guys like Winnik and Santorelli. The purpose of such signings should be for short-term profit only. Tell these guys that they can revive their careers in Toronto. Keep them until the trade deadline, thereby eating up most of their one-year salary. Then, trade them for draft picks and prospects to playoff bound teams. Everyone wins. The players go to the playoffs, the Leafs get the picks and prospects and other teams get utility players for a bargain (because they only have to pay them for a few months).

Their was a guy a few years ago who traded started trading a paperclip and ended up with a house. Every trade was a marginal improvement over what he had.

I think that is one of the only ways that the Leafs can improve without actually being the worse team in the league for an extended period of time.

1 month, 4 weeks ago on Saturday Mashup: In Philly Tonight

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I think that the NHL has taken almost every advantage that the Leafs' might have away from them. It's a problem of trying to make it in the States. The majority of the teams in the league are in poor NHL locations and are not making any money. Yet, they can out vote the minority of teams that are in good NHL locations and do make money. Rubbing salt into the wounds, the profitable teams share their money with the money losing teams. That allows teams in poor NHL markets to survive lean years, where they are no good, until they can reap the rewards of high draft picks. Their is little fan pressure on those teams and, because they are kept afloat by revenue-sharing, there is little financial pressure either. So, the Leafs stink year in year out as management tries too hard to fix the team quickly, all the while suffering to watch as they pay the league's bills so that the best young players can get drafted elsewhere.


Like many others, I think that where the Leafs' can use their money is in scouting, analytics, salary cap number crunchers, coaching and other management positions.


For the next 2 or 3 years, I'd like to see the Leafs make more off season moves like signing guys like Winnik and Santorelli. The purpose of such signings should be for short-term profit only. Tell these guys that they can revive their careers in Toronto. Keep them until the trade deadline, thereby eating up most of their one-year salary. Then, trade them for draft picks and prospects to playoff bound teams. Everyone wins. The players go to the playoffs, the Leafs get the picks and prospects and other teams get utility players for a bargain (because they only have to pay them for a few months).


Their was a guy a few years ago who traded started trading a paperclip and ended up with a house. Every trade was a marginal improvement over what he had.


I think that is one of the only ways that the Leafs can improve without actually being the worse team in the league for an extended period of time.

1 month, 4 weeks ago on Maple Leafs Rumours: Cody Franson, Mike Santorelli and Daniel Winnik “highly likely” to be traded (Bob McKenzie)

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@ProfessorRance @Forever17 @Xxxxxnew You could say Nylander, Kadri, Gauthier and throw in Holland. That's not a horrible list.

2 months ago on Game 49 Scoring Chances: Devils 2 vs. Maple Leafs 1 (SO)

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@phaneufoundlander @Forever17 Just have to say that the Sittler, MacDonald, "Tiger" Williams, Palmateer Leafs beat those Islanders in the playoffs in '77-'78. 

2 months ago on Game 49 Scoring Chances: Devils 2 vs. Maple Leafs 1 (SO)

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