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@CherryPicking @vinoa @peterbleafs No. I'm not going to bother with it at all. Anyone who says he doesn't back check doesn't watch the games and that's not a lie. You can hate him all you want but if you watch him you'd see a bit of effort every now and then defensively. I didn't say he was a Bergeron type player, but he's not as 1 dimensional as the haters would like him to be....but hey you believe what you want to believe. Not my job to get people to watch the games instead of just coming online to smack talk. Again...he's no Bergeron, but he's not a defensive black hole either.
1 day, 1 hour ago on Monday Mashup: Connor Brown has 4pt game, Nylander adds goal+assist in Marlies win over Rochester
@CherryPicking @vinoa @peterbleafs Okay. I could argue but I won't. You just managed to prove my point so thank you.
@peterbleafs @vinoa FFS all he said was that he wants to elevate his game to JT's level. Is it wrong to want to be like the best? This is the problem with this fan base. People read what they want to and don't care what the facts are. Sounds like most people have already made their minds up. This is probably like the whole Kessel can't back check or pass bs that was going on a few years ago (or today).
@peterbleafs @vinoa So Kadri goes late to a practice on the day the clocks move forward and now he needs to grow up. Am I the only one seeing the massive disconnect between these 2 things? Yes he was late, but when was he late before.
I haven't been watching the games since it became obvious what was happening, but I have a question to the guys who have. Hasn't Kadri been one of the more consistent players this season? Hasn't he been blocking shots, forechecking, and driving play?
@DeclanK @CherryPicking @totalrebuild Maybe he's just not that bright. Connor McDumbass...amirite?
@CherryPicking @totalrebuild lmao...McDavid pulling a serious Inception on the League? Plant the idea that he's no more than a Bozak....genius!
@totalrebuild Lol wait Tyler Bozak isn't playing like a 1C? /s
Dude people knew Bozak wasn't a 1C a long time ago...it doesn't change the fact that he's actually a good player and probably capable of being a solid 2-3 sort of guy behind a legit 1C. If your view of Bozak changed drastically this year, then you should go back and read what people were saying about Bozak's performance when he was red hot.
@gjdevlin Supposedly a good power forward type. Don't think anyone here has anything else to offer. Declan had a link below.
1 week, 2 days ago on Game 73 Scoring Chances: Senators 5 vs. Maple Leafs 3
@gjdevlin Can't do a chin up.
@Komas Taberle @mcloki @vinoa @Burtonboy Nah we're trading for Malone ;).
@Jay_Berg They said that about Kane and Carter but those guys seem to have turned it around. Honestly, Richards is done as a valuable NHL player. These intangibles were the reasons for Clarkson, Bolland, Komi, etc. I think once the guys that are just doing through the motions are gone, this team will look a lot better. It's not the losing that sucks about this team, it's the way we're losing.
@mcloki @vinoa @Burtonboy If they ate salary and gave us a couple of picks it could be worth it. If not, screw it. We finally got from underneath Clarkson's deal.
@mcloki @Burtonboy Is it more embarrassing to play in the AHL or the Leafs?
@ingy56 @Komas Taberle @rustynail JVR got 1st line duties and stopped giving a fuck. The guy's no bargain...we get what we pay for.
@Leafsboy1500 Hopefully we're convincing Belfour to come back and lead us to another lottery pick.
1 week, 5 days ago on Game 72 – SJS 4, TOR 1 – An even worse start for Toronto
@mcloki People are acting as if the Leafs have a license to print money. It's not the losing that people are upset with...it's the way these guys are losing.
@Cameron19 @vinoa @Builder Lego No I get that it's not as bad as the OP would have us believe, but it hasn't been great either. I think it's the whole Horacheck time that's making it look bad. If RC was fired in the summer and replaced with a real head coach, people might not even think about it. Right now with a lost season, people will look at anything to bitch about.
@Cameron19 @vinoa @Yaknowwhat @Zep2 I don't like his responses at times, but I still think that Polak's been a lot worse. At least Bernier gives his interviews in Canada. TBH I've come to accept Bernier as a decent NHL goalie...like Reimer. I don't think he's so elite that he can make up for this team's gaping holes.
@Cameron19 @Builder Lego Wilson fired in 2012, RC fired in 2014, Horachek (even if he is "interim") presumably fired in 2015, and whoever the next guy will be. There have been 3 different head coaches so far in the last 3 years and 4 when you count the next guy. It's not a complete lie to say that we've had 4 coaches in 4 years...
@Yaknowwhat @Zep2 From his regression from last year. If Bernier was lights out like he was for a good chunk of last season, people would still be on the Bernier bandwagon. But since he's human and can't play at an elite level for 160 games, he must be the problem now. Sort of like how Reimer was the reason we lost in game 7.
@Leafsboy1500 You Feschuking us bro?
@Jay_Berg See that's the problem. People are giving Shanny credit for nothing the same way guys like Kessel were getting shat on while they were doing their jobs. I'm not convinced that Shanny's any better than Burke. Sure he's been quiet, but is that because he's very secretive about his moves or is it because he doesn't know what his next moves are? I love to shit on Nonis all the time, but he's still far more experienced with front office matters than Shanny. When the dust settles, I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually Nonis behind a lot of the moves this summer and ownership that pushed for the disasters of the 2013 offseason.
@Leafsboy1500 Reimer is an amazing person regardless of how he's playing. The guy's always upbeat and positive...hard to maintain in this market.
@Leafsboy1500 The glory days!
@Yaknowwhat @vinoa @Zep2 I completely agree on the idea that this core needs to go. I was really referring to the idea that Dion is as lazy and indifferent as the other guys. I'm disgusted with their display this year. Kessel used to be one of my favourite athletes, but it all starts and ends with him.
@Jay_Berg Did he actually say that this was an evaluation year?
@Zep2 Don't throw Dion in that crowd. Not his fault that this team is where it is.
Edit: Didn't see the shot at Kadri, but since when is it bad to want to be considered among the best?
@FrankFerrant @HHT @peterbleafs @MLHS_Luke I don't know if any of those guys are fair comparisons. JT and Stamkos are stud 1Cs while Pacioretty is a legit top line winger. Not saying that JVR isn't a top line player, but the other guys in your list are definitely more consistent than him.
1 week, 5 days ago on GDT: Game #73, Toronto Maple Leafs vs San Jose Sharks (7:30pm, TSN4)
@Scotty_8 @DeclanK Too much if it's anything like the games.
@NotSince67 @North Kariya @Xxxxxnew Varlamov and Rask were both 1st rounders. I think playing overseas might hurt a bit, but the blue chip guys are still going in the 1st round. I think you're really highlighting just how much of a crap shoot the draft can be with regards to goalies but you aren't seeing that. Would anyone say that Varly or Rask are better than Lundqvist?
1 week, 6 days ago on Wednesday Mashup: Leafs Eliminated from playoffs
@NotSince67 @North Kariya @Xxxxxnew It doesn't look like goalies are being scouted significantly better now. It's not like the younger goalies are displacing the vets. If anything, being a veteran seems to be a requirement to being a starter in the NHL.
@NotSince67 @North Kariya I don't think that Bernier's much of a better goalie that Reimer. Varlamov was drafted after Bernier and he's definitely better. Hell Steve Mason won the Calder so Bernier isn't even the most successful goalie of his own draft class unless the backup Stanley Cup counts.
@NotSince67 @Xxxxxnew I think there's something about goalies going either very early or very late in the draft. It's just not a position that can be scouted with as much accuracy as forwards and even defensemen.
@LoovTrain @North Kariya Make the entire contract just one big bonus!
@LoovTrain @North Kariya @In it to Winnik @happy_gilmour Wish we had the Deutsche Dangler...just for this.
@Ron Tugnut @Cameron19 @mtommy @HHT It's unlikely, but not impossible. I think Cam was just pointing out that given circumstances, teams would move picks. It's not about giving Max Domi linemates...it's about the assets that you could get from trading a 2nd overall pick. I mean JVR + our 1st for a 1st rounder doesn't sound that insane. Let's make it JVR, Gardiner and our 1st. Or JVR, Gards, Nylander and our 1st. Hell, let's make it JVR, Gards, Nylander, Rielly and both of our 1sts. You'd have to be a fool not to essentially take an entire starting lineup for 1 pick.
@djamon @vinoa You might be right. The article I read was mostly on the lack of OHLers going in the top 30. Really don't know how the overall talent pool is coming into this draft.
@Cameron19 I think it's been mentioned by a few scouts that the dropoff after the top 2 is rather steep. McDavid and Eichel are locks to be bonafide NHLers, and probably stars, but the top 30 isn't littered with can't miss prospects.
@North Kariya @vinoa @MaxwellHowe @HHT So you're saying that he's going to bring a Clarkson to every team? Is it possible that we sent him out there as an inside man?
@MaxwellHowe @HHT David Clarkson's been referred to as the Gretzky of Mimico in some circles...namely Poulin and Loiselle.
@North Kariya @vinoa I think he says that when he's the bounty hunter or something.
@North Kariya @vinoa I can't help but chuckle each time I read the term "breh". First time I heard it was on a clip from the Maury show.
@North Kariya @vinoa No our system has the 3rd smartest player of the eastern conference of the ohl. Our parent club on the other hand... I think people see that this team has quite a few needs and even though we have some prospects there aren't any of the high end variety.
@cryptotho @Jmessih @Zep2 http://thehockeywriters.com/dylan-strome-the-next-ones-nhl-2015-draft-prospect-profile/
" Strome shows a smooth skating stride, and good top end speed, but his acceleration and first few steps could use some improvement. "
That was the worst comment about his skating so I'm not sure if it's as big an issue as people are making it out to be.
@North Kariya @alex callis To the giant holes?
@DeclanK @mtommy @RandomScrub If Marner ends up ranked higher than Strome, would we take Strome over Marner because he's a C? Just wondering because I don't know much about either player other than position.
On a related note, will you guys be doing some pre draft profiles of some our possible picks soon?
@mtommy @RandomScrub Good point. You take the BPA regardless of the position. It's also about organizational need. Would the Pens or Kings want Strome over Marner? Probably not...but with out situation being what it is, I can see why everyone's keen on finally landing that bonafide 1C.
@Knights2Leafs @ninepaces heh
@mtommy They should just make it random...after we exploit this current lottery situation.