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@Dogger I'm hoping he's more like the Toews of his class.

32 minutes ago on Toronto Marlies Open Thread: Marlies score touchdown in Game 1 win; Game 2 goes Sunday

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@DylanJ @Luke_R We had 10 players last year who were under 25 and another 8 under 30. I don't know how good most of the guys he listed are, but of those 18 players at least 2 of them are elite. I don't know if anyone other than Karlsson is elite on the Sens list.

1 hour, 59 minutes ago on Toronto Marlies Open Thread: Marlies score touchdown in Game 1 win; Game 2 goes Sunday

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@Luke_R @djamon Not exactly envious of those guys. I think a team like Tampa with that 2nd line of theirs or Colorado with Duchene, Mackinnon, and Landeskog have more high end young players.

2 hours, 11 minutes ago on Toronto Marlies Open Thread: Marlies score touchdown in Game 1 win; Game 2 goes Sunday

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@Xxxxxnew Looking at his numbers it looks like that season with the Marlies was an anomaly. He hasn't put up points close to that anywhere else. On the other hand, he seems to do really well with the Marlies so no reason to get rid of him. Hopefully he can translate that to the big club.

10 hours, 15 minutes ago on Toronto Marlies Open Thread: Marlies score touchdown in Game 1 win; Game 2 goes Sunday

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@Mc dlb @vinoa Like a minute. Not a lot of posts this time of year. Probably a lot longer if it was a couple of months ago lol.

13 hours, 19 minutes ago on Toronto Marlies Open Thread: Marlies score touchdown in Game 1 win; Game 2 goes Sunday

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@traNsplantEdneWfie Just clicked you name and scrolled to 3 days ago.

13 hours, 26 minutes ago on Toronto Marlies Open Thread: Marlies score touchdown in Game 1 win; Game 2 goes Sunday

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@traNsplantEdneWfie For those of you that missed this earlier.  And let me say that according to the way the rules are written on the NHL.com website this is black and white.

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I hope to clarify the draft order for everyone. 

The first part is obvious as it is a part of the draft lottery....

i) First the Clubs which failed to qualify for the preceding playoffs in the order of points earned by each of them in the regular schedule of the preceding season starting with the Club having the lowest points total and followed by the Club having the next lowest points total, and so forth.


This part is also obvious....

iv) The Stanley Cup winner shall select last, thus, positioning all Clubs on the list.


Next let's take a look at this clause...

iii) The Clubs which had been ranked first in their Divisions during the next preceding season (but had not won the Stanley Cup that season) in the order of points earned by each of them in the regular schedule of the preceding season starting with the Club having the lowest total points and followed by the Club having the next lowest total points, and so forth.


If NYR wins the cup the order for 27 through 30 remains like this

* Divisional winners

*30. NYR

*29. Montreal

*28. Anaheim

*27. St. Louis


If someone else wins the cup the arrangement changes to this

**30.  Stanley cup winner

*29. NYR

*28. Montreal

*27. Anaheim

*26. St. Louis


Now, let's take a look at this clause...

ii) The Clubs which participated in the preceding playoffs (but had not been ranked first in their respective Divisions and had not won the Stanley Cup that season) in order of points earned by each of them in the regular schedule of the preceding season starting with the Club having the lowest total points and followed by the Club having the next lowest total points, and so forth.

So, this clause explains that no matter how the remaining clubs finish, unless they win the cup, they will remain in the following order.  Therefore, Nashville will pick 25th unless 1) They win the cup OR 2) They pick 24th if a team below them (like Chicago) wins the cup where Nashville will then pick 24th.

26. TB

25. Nashville

24. Chicago

23. Vancouver

22. NYI

21. Washington

20. Minnesota

19. Detroit

18. Ottawa

17. Winnipeg

16. Pittsburg

13 hours, 27 minutes ago on Toronto Marlies Open Thread: Marlies score touchdown in Game 1 win; Game 2 goes Sunday

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@Cameron19 @Zep2 Yeah but Kessel is soft and can't play when the pressure is on remember? Not like Stamkos, who plays with 0 pressure but can't seem to play to his ability.

14 hours, 2 minutes ago on Toronto Marlies Open Thread: Marlies score touchdown in Game 1 win; Game 2 goes Sunday

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@totalrebuild @vinoa @Burtonboy He quarterbacks the PP with 2 of the top 4 players in the draft. I didn't check the whole list but the top 2 point getting defenders were both born in 95 while Dermott's pretty much the end of 1996 (December). I don't think it's smart to look at point totals only. Also, this was the same argument used against Strome, that he was the beneficiary of playing with McDavid. It wasn't true for Strome, and it probably isn't true for this kid either.


Edit: I don't know much about either player, but this Dermott kid seems very intriguing to say the least.

14 hours, 9 minutes ago on Toronto Marlies Open Thread: Marlies score touchdown in Game 1 win; Game 2 goes Sunday

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@totalrebuild @Burtonboy I thought that article said the exact opposite of that. The kid apparently has great offensive instinct and is alread 5'11'' most likely topping out at 6' and 200lbs +...

14 hours, 16 minutes ago on Toronto Marlies Open Thread: Marlies score touchdown in Game 1 win; Game 2 goes Sunday

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@docmma @Wilbur @philthethrill Not either, but people who cite Wikipedia should lose all media credentials. 

15 hours, 22 minutes ago on Toronto Marlies Open Thread: Marlies score touchdown in Game 1 win; Game 2 goes Sunday

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@Dogger We should just be grateful that he didn't retain salary or give up a 2nd.

1 day, 5 hours ago on Saturday Mashup: Marlies Playoff Game Day

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@Leafbites @vinoa @zoidbergman Unfortunately our GM bought it and it cost him. He thought we were a winger and goalie away when in reality we still needed a 1C and a top pairing dman. Grabbo's line wasn't the problem and neither was Reimer, but that's not how Nonis saw it.

1 day, 5 hours ago on Saturday Mashup: Marlies Playoff Game Day

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@Leafbites @zoidbergman Yes we'd prefer a couple of 2nd or 3rd rounders over 1 compliance buyout for one of our most productive lines in recent years. Not that people aren't over it, people just can't forget that this team wasn't as bad as this season just 2 years ago.

1 day, 5 hours ago on Saturday Mashup: Marlies Playoff Game Day

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@Dogger Well no because I'm reading them. Are you speaking out loud as you type? I think I understand what you were trying to convey...you're just doing a reaaaaaaaaaally shitty job of it ;)

1 day, 12 hours ago on Saturday Mashup: Marlies Playoff Game Day

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@Dogger That's my point. Unless one of young dmen takes a massive step forward, Dion plays like a Norris candidate, and we get a veteran goalie, I can't see us making the playoffs next year.

1 day, 12 hours ago on Saturday Mashup: Marlies Playoff Game Day

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@Dogger Gardiner?

1 day, 12 hours ago on Saturday Mashup: Marlies Playoff Game Day

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@Dogger We don't have a Giordano/Brodie/Hiller.

1 day, 12 hours ago on Saturday Mashup: Marlies Playoff Game Day

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@brozie You show them the ticket on your phone. I'm pretty sure that's what I did last year.

1 day, 12 hours ago on Saturday Mashup: Marlies Playoff Game Day

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@Mitch92 @Cameron19 @Whalz111 Cause Polak sucks. He was a bottom pairing dman in St. Louis and he's a bottom pairing dman here. Only a potato head fuck would give up a top 4 dman, a pick , and retain salary for a bottom pairing dman. You know I don't even mind Bozak, Polak, and all the other shitty players on this team, but I can't stand the homers that defend these clowns. You guys have no problems ripping on Dion or Phil, but no one points out that they don't have any support. Instead Polak is a fucking hero for throwing a big hit in his 1st game here. What a joke.


Edit: Sorry if I came off rude, but this crap has me seething.

1 day, 13 hours ago on Saturday Mashup: Marlies Playoff Game Day

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@Whalz111 You mean MDZ with the porn stars or MDZ who regressed every year?

1 day, 13 hours ago on Saturday Mashup: Marlies Playoff Game Day

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@WereRiellyDoingThis @Cameron19 @Whalz111 lol kind of like Tim Gleason playing again? Pretty tough to argue when you stick by your "eye test"

1 day, 13 hours ago on Saturday Mashup: Marlies Playoff Game Day

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@wiski @Alec Brownscombe @Hammertownleaffan No my friend, you can always wear the Randy shirt. Some things only get better with age...like RC jokes.

2 days, 12 hours ago on Dave Nonis: “I don’t think they have to move Phil Kessel. I believe the baggage that comes with Phil is overblown”

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@Cameron19 @peterbleafs @MaxwellHowe @traNsplantEdneWfie It is Cam. Stop being objective and start generalizing and speculating...it's the Leafs way.

2 days, 15 hours ago on Dave Nonis: “I don’t think they have to move Phil Kessel. I believe the baggage that comes with Phil is overblown”

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@MaxwellHowe @Cameron19 @traNsplantEdneWfie No people want to trade for him, people just don't want to overpay for him.


Edit: Just noticed "a lot" in your response.

2 days, 15 hours ago on Dave Nonis: “I don’t think they have to move Phil Kessel. I believe the baggage that comes with Phil is overblown”

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@Bruffins @Savo43 Well we'd have to call the devil for something Leafs related...so there's that.

3 days, 3 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Jets the First to Fall

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@RandomScrub I want both of them to lose. Is there any way that can happen?

4 days, 2 hours ago on Tuesday Mashup: Todd McLellan in play

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@sniperstar @Yaknowwhat Before or after the suspension?

4 days, 2 hours ago on Tuesday Mashup: Todd McLellan in play

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@Cameron19 @Yaknowwhat I don't know. There were a lot of nights where Kessel was flying and JVR was no where to be found. I think his contract's blinding people to his lack of growth this season.

4 days, 2 hours ago on Tuesday Mashup: Todd McLellan in play

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@Savo43 @vinoa @HHT Some serious nostalgia reading that comment. 

4 days, 2 hours ago on Tuesday Mashup: Todd McLellan in play

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@Savo43 @HHT Is that Gohan or trunks?

4 days, 2 hours ago on Tuesday Mashup: Todd McLellan in play

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@Savo43 @Hammertownleaffan Can't or won't? A bacon allergy is almost tragic.

4 days, 2 hours ago on Tuesday Mashup: Todd McLellan in play

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@Dangle_My_Berries @zoidbergman Actually I hear nothing but good things about the Western teams (save Vancouver) from these parts.

4 days, 8 hours ago on Tuesday Mashup: Todd McLellan in play

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@Cameron19 @TorontoMapleLeafs Miller too until last night. Goalie market changing before our eyes.

4 days, 15 hours ago on Tuesday Mashup: Todd McLellan in play

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@Cameron19 @vinoa @B_Leaf I'm really hoping we do big things with our 2nd rounders and below. Guys like Saad, Subban, Bergeron have all gone on to be impact players for their teams...no reason why the Leafs can't be gifted a great player with that early 2nd. Or is that Chicago's pick now?

4 days, 15 hours ago on Tuesday Mashup: Todd McLellan in play

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@Cameron19 @B_Leaf Dammit Cam! Why do you always have to ruin things with your "logic" and "common sense"?

4 days, 15 hours ago on Tuesday Mashup: Todd McLellan in play

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@Hammertownleaffan @vinoa @Leafs_17 @Jay31 Wish the Raps would shut him up on the court. That asshole called them out and so far they're making him look like a genius.

5 days ago on Tuesday Mashup: Todd McLellan in play

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@leafmealone @vinoa @Radar O'Rielly Lol. You might want to check your facts...or don't. Doesn't matter to me, but it makes it a lot easier to ignore.

5 days ago on Tuesday Mashup: Todd McLellan in play

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@Leafs_17 @Jay31 Tough to hide their stash...maybe if they got a team in BC?

5 days ago on Tuesday Mashup: Todd McLellan in play

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@leafmealone @Radar O'Rielly Are people really going to pretend that this current team and the one the Burke left behind are the same? Burke made mistakes like any other GM, but his were of the 2-5 year variety. Sure Komi didn't work out, but he was coming off an All-Star season. If you go through his moves, they weren't team destroying mistakes. I feel like we're beating a dead horse, but people need to get over this Brian Burke ruined the Leafs bullshit.

Edit: Screw our cap royally? Wtf?? That summer was structured to give NoNuts all the flexibility he could want. Not Burke's fault that Clarkson was Nonis' biggest deal.

5 days ago on Tuesday Mashup: Todd McLellan in play

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@Handlebar At least Potato Head is gone for good now. He took a playoff roster and dismantled it in 1 summer. Hope he gets hired by the Habs.

5 days, 1 hour ago on Tuesday Mashup: Todd McLellan in play

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@RandomScrub @vinoa @Bruffins @Xxxxxnew Is that what we're calling him now?

5 days, 10 hours ago on Toronto Maple Leafs’ Kyle Dubas on Brady & Walker

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@Bruffins @Xxxxxnew But can he do a chin up? #askingtheimportantquestions

5 days, 10 hours ago on Toronto Maple Leafs’ Kyle Dubas on Brady & Walker

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