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@rangermom @IhaveawaiteratMSG I just don't like that 3rd extra point being generated. I do agree with getting 0 points for losing in OT though.My example is this: A team that loses every game in OT or shootout gets as many points as a team who goes 41-41 with every game decided in regulation time. I don't think that makes sense. They should've went to a 3 point system when they added a shootout. I actually hate the idea, it just makes more sense. 3 points for a regulation or overtime win and 2-1 for a shootout result. It rewards teams that win on the ice and still gives a consolation prize to the team that lost a silly skill competition. It also doesn't create a 3rd point from a game that is otherwise only worth 2. You should be able to add up the total team points at the end of the season and have it always be the same number. In other words, there are always the same amount of points up for grabs. Years that have more OT games have higher point totals... it's just weird.I wish they would just go back to 2 points for any win and 1 point each for a tie... Except you extend overtime and scale down the players like they recently proposed: 4v4 for 5min and 3v3 for 5min. Then it's a tie. If they are trying to avoid shootouts by manipulating ice conditions, why not just totally avoid it? Either it's for the fans and it's fun and fuck the game or do what makes sense and get rid of the shootout. Experiment failed, most the Players and GMs hate it.
6 days, 7 hours ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
Anyone see the hit Kreider took? If he dishes out that hit, its a penalty... non-call for him. I don't mind which way they call the penalty, I would just prefer if it was consistent. Just a little bump at the wrong time and you eat the boards, he's been called like 3 times this year already. It's frustrating.
@Barry Beck It's hard as a player to always fight when your teammate gets wrecked. When it's a bad hit or obvious dirty play, it's so much easier. You rage immediately. But when your buddy gets blown up by a big, clean hit, you can't always respond by having a brawl. That's hockey man. If i get hit pretty hard, I usually say "oh shit, good hit" and keep it moving. I try to remember and pay him back if I can (with a clean hit). And this is just college intramural and men's league though, so it is different. That Malkin hit was clean. I hate the ugly fucker, but it was as clean as it gets. That is the type of hit you respond with ANOTHER huge hit. Fuck, maybe now you take a run at someone and take a bad penalty (not smart) but you meant for a clean hit and emotions took over.
There is just something childish to me about jumping a guy for a huge, clean hit. It's like that's the fucking point of hockey, why are you even playing if you can't hit and get hit without crying every time? Obviously there are exceptions and your point about lack of grit still stands anyway, but it's more a lack of repaying that huge hit and escalating the tone of the game than it is sucker punching a guy. I don't want the Todd Bertuzzi retaliation, I want another huge hit. That's why Glass has a spot, no other Rangers forward really does that. Not consistently at least. That's why the Rangers are holding out hopes that McIlrath becomes at least a 3rd pair NHL player. At least he can destroy some people with a clean hit.
1 week ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
@rangermom Wow that was not an intelligent article. What about the fact that the only reason Boyle and Stralman are there is because of the Cally-MSL trade? Cally openly coaxed those two players to the TBL after they couldn't be resigned by the Rangers. Without those 3 players, they aren't so deep. When MSL came to NYR, Boyle and Stralman were Rangers and TBL got knocked out in the first round. The only real mistake was letting Stralman go... Boyle and Cally had to go based on contract constraints. For him not to mention that at all is just lazy writing. I hope they use that click-bait.
1 week, 1 day ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
@gravey94 Yeah man, Gordie knows that he's really only had 1 year worth of pro development (injuries) despite it being over 2 calendar years. So this is really his 2nd pro year... Gotta figure it out soon. Interesting for him to say that McIlrath wanted to develop his size naturally and not get too big from just lifting... that certainly takes longer. Plus the Langley story is cool. It's like "Hey Bro, you're a big tough stay-at-home defenseman. Get rid of the puck when you get it" love the honesty. Sucks to hear that Skjei was ready but wanted to finish school. Obviously good for him getting his eduction, but from a Rangers defensive depth perspective, Brady would've certainly helped out this year and got a TON of playing time.
@EHBIGAPPLE @ChrisB13 Don't be ridiculous. Gordie along with other player development guys in the league have always said that you can't know if a kid is truly ready until he literally plays a game in the NHL.Also, the interviewer said "Are you surprised?" and Gordie said "Yeah I guess". It's not like Gordie opened with it, the question lead him down that path. And the context of it is based on the fact Gordie wanted to see his playoff run as a final test of his readiness and he couldn't because Duke was injured.
"I can't say it's a big surprise since we did see him doing it [also at the world championships]. But yeah, surprised at the fact right now, at 19, he's with the Rangers"So Gordie wasn't surprised that he would make the NHL, just that it happened this soon. It's a good thing that he made the squad a year earlier than projected. IN GORDIE WE TRUST
@scrangersfan @johnnyb3910 @TomDundie I remember reading something at the beginning of the season that the Rangers told his JR team that he isn't returning and they didn't hold a roster spot for Duclair.He's a Ranger now and it's a good thing. Let him struggle with the Pros. Sending him back down will do nothing but allow his bad habits to continue. He'll figure it out at this level... or he'll watch from the pressbox all year. Still not a big deal for a 19 year old. I don't think getting 25 mins a night in Juniors would help him be a better Pro. Maybe AHL, but that's a moot point.
@TomDundie Where do you find a true #1 center? They are like the rarest thing in the league. You have to give up more than they are worth to get them because of how rare they are. Once teams get them, they lock them up. I understand that the Rangers need a #1 center, but you act like they aren't trying. I'd argue every team in the league is always looking for a #1 center. The Rangers try to get a top center every offseason and every trade deadline. They just can't get a deal done. The Rangers have the players they need, Brass and Step will be fine holding down the top 6 duties. They have been struggling with serious injuries all season. I don't think they have played a healthy game with their full roster yet this year. The problem is currently just depth and execution.
@EHBIGAPPLE @Gianni74 At this point I would think sending Duclair back to Juniors would not be beneficial. I doubt it HURTS his development, but he has an NHL skillset and belongs with the big club. I say let him figure it out up here and learn the right reads and good habits at an NHL pace.
2 weeks, 6 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
@DP_Snotty @KevinMccarthy @brian2686 My point was I expected him to start with Hartford and he was convinced he was a lock for the team. I said he could still be a healthy scratch, we never got into more detail than that. IR isn't active roster but he isn't with the AHL. Still Hyped he made the squad.
1 month, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
I bet someone that Hayes wouldn't make the opening day roster. Does the IR count as the roster? Do I still lose the bet?
@KevinTheNYRBlog Is Lindberg out? FREE LINDBERG!Seriously, for the bottom 6 slot, he seemed more competent defensively than Hayes or Mueller...I think he outplayed both those guys
1 month, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/projecting-the-rangers-opening-night-roster-final-attempt.html
@Josh-CK Is this official? I commented on a post of yours up top and didn't think Hayes made it. I saw Duclair has "been told" he made the team, I didn't hear about Hayes. I'd be (pleasantly) surprised if he makes it though.
@Josh-CK No way Nash is bottom 6. Not to start the year, at least. I get that you are putting him there because of his Duclair chemistry and I agree Duclair probably shouldn't be in the top 6, but I think Nasher gets to start top 6 before the shake up.Also you really think Hayes makes it over Lindberg? He is certainly the better fit later on, with the big body and soft hands, but he just didn't quite have it yet in my opinion. Plus his shoulder is tweaked.I probably put Moore down on the 4th with Lindberg as 3rd. You also don't think Fast earned his spot? Stemp didn't do anything special in my eyes.
I agree with Malone to AHL. Use the flexibility of that two-way deal and keep the roster spot open for a kid. You know what you have with Malone to a degree and they can always call him back up.Haggerty and Hayes both to the AHL. Duclair on a 9 game cup-of-coffee until back to Juniors to get stronger. Now he doesn't have to "prove himself" he can focus on getting ready for next year now that he knows what it takes. If he lights it up for 9 games, Keep him and make a move to fit the contract.Stemp makes team, Lombardi injury is the last question. I think AV keeps 8 D-men, especially with the wide open competition. Hunwick and McIlrath are 7,8.Hayes and Haggerty are not ready defensively and Lindberg and Fast are. When Step comes back, Lindberg gets dropped to AHL and Duclair goes home to Juniors. That's my best "what is AV thinking".
1 month, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/projecting-the-rangers-opening-night-roster-attempt-two.html
@TomDundie Good points. I would argue that Fast is ready and should be on the team. He added some offense to his already solid D game. I'd rather Fast over Stemp or Lombardi. The rest probably wont make it, even with a hurt Step.
1 month, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
@EugenePlaksienko I think Hayes is sent to AHL. He is just a step behind out there, he looks a little reluctant. He has the size and tools though. I bet 40 games in the AHL and he will be a different player. I say Linberg as 4th center and Fast on 4th line with Glass and D. Moore. Can Haggerty play 3rd line wing? I say yes. He is the extra man until Step is healthy.
@JoeyKocur His first step and posture, same breed as Pavel. If he has half the finish of Bure then we are in for a fucking treat. Duclair was exciting as fuck to watch.
Fuck yeah! Went to the game last night and it was pretty fun. The 200's were fucking packed.- Duclair looks way faster in person. His first step is a monster, he's at full speed after 2 steps like Kreider. - Tanner Glass made a case for himself on the 4th line, tons of energy. Crowd was pumped after his fight.- Boyle had a quiet game, in a good way- Haggerty's goals were both so casual, he has sneaky speed. One quick fake to the middle and he's outside already. He's not as flat out fast as Duclair but he doesn't lose a step with the puck on his stick.- Flyers team was pretty awful- McIlrath was real strong on the boards last night. In previous games I saw, he was getting spun around on the cycle real easily. Once the cycle was established, he was essentially lost. Swimming for position. Last night he was putting contact to anyone near him. He wasn't crushing them, just a little contact - a shove here, a bump there, quick stick check - but he wasn't out of place at all. He made some smart passes too. He might actually turn out to be a late bloomer.- Dancing Larry STILL has the same lame ass moves. Maybe next year...
@SmellyKisio I dunno man, I feel like one of the main reasons for the deep run was a fresh Hank. Talbot can provide that. He seems fine with another couple years under Hank to prove he's not a fluke before he has to take on starter minutes. I would wait until they know how Skapski and the other guys turn out before moving Talbot.
2 months ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
@scrangersfan @BroadwayBlueZ He needs skating work, where is Barbara Underhill? He seemed fine when they got the play out quickly, once the cycle was on, he was so exposed. He's strong on his skates when he keeps up with the play, the problem is he was chasing the play most the game.If I remember right, he was being rotated with a different partner all night. I don't know if the AHL can help him, he needs to learn to match the speed of the NHL game. I hope they keep him as a 7 or 8th d-man to practice with the Pros. Gordie Clark still likes him though... and he's the expert.Plus he's still only 22. He has time to improve his skating. 6'5 220lb according to Wiki, that's worth waiting a few more years.
@Say my Name @brian2686 haha that timeout. The OC should've discount doublechecked the rulebook.
2 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
@Say my Name @brian2686 I just googled the copy+pasted Lombardi quotes because you said you were old school about leadership. He's as old school as sports leaders go in my mind. The captain was so obviously gonna be McD, he's the best dman and was a beast last playoff run. They actually just named him Captain. Now you said you don't care? Now I'm confused.Maybe I just misunderstood you, but it seems like you actually give a shit about all this. In my opinion, you are the one hand-wringing and over speculating. You literally said McD failed at something over a benign media quote. Now you said it's just bullshit? If you're just trolling, you got me, so congrats. At least we can agree that hockey needs to start tomorrow. I need hockey to fill the void that football can't seem to fill.
@Say my Name @brian2686 “A leader must identify himself with the group, must back up the group,
even at the risk of displeasing superiors. He must believe that the
group wants from him a sense of approval. If this feeling prevails,
production, discipline, morale will be high, and in return, you can
demand the cooperation to promote the goals of the community.”
“Leadership is not just one quality, but rather a blend of many
qualities; and while no one individual possesses all of the needed
talents that go into leadership, each man can develop a combination to
make him a leader.”
“No leader, however great, can long continue unless he wins battles. The battle decides all.”
@Say my Name You might just be the biggest hater on the planet. McD is gonna be the captain as he should be. Sorry if that bothers you.
low risk move. Malone gets his contract and rangers get a solid forward. Maybe he spends all year in Hartford as a stop gap for a rookie who makes the squad. Maybe he plays great and beats out lombardi or stemp. Maybe he's a call up mid season or a big body for playoff depth.
Rangers fans always calling for big body forwards. Sure he's 34 and got popped for coke, but you'd be surprised how many pros party hard during the summer but clean up and play hard during the season.
This is a good move from every angle. If a young 20 can't out play Malone, then they aren't ready for the show yet.
2 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
Hey, does anyone here hate Nash? It's hard to tell sometimes, just wanted to check in
@Bueller I came here to say this and you beat me to it. I'm the franchise player and we talkin bout practice
2 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
I literally played this challenge for the entire last season and post season. I bet you can look at my post history and see this. A guy with a picture of heisenberg almost always replied and disagreed with anything positive about Nash.What do I win? Season tickets? A free lifetime subscription to the NYRBlog?
@genetics73 Who are these two guys?
Picture 17/30 - Dark Blue Helmet?
Picture 29/30 - Helmet with a cage? Only guy not wearing Rangers practice gear...http://blueshirtsunited.com/photos/6535/photos-from-the-rangers-informal-skate#.U_9q42ORi_h
3 months ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
You the the white on the insides of the pad are there intentionally? Like a trick to blend in with the ice to make shooters think there is an opening? Similar to this: http://www.goalieflage.com/#!about/ccjb
@Willc22 @Herman_NYRBlog I don't understand how an article about a bubble prospect who has an expiring contract reflects poorly upon Rangers fans.
3 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/danny-kristos-future-with-the-rangers-is-in-doubt.html
Normally, If I disagree with a writers opinion on this blog, I scroll down and see it was written by Adam. Guess what? That was an awesome write-up. It's obvious you're getting better at this. I'll probably still disagree with you, but I will certainly respectfully disagree.
4 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
Sather is just mad old school. He loves to have a fighter. Sandy McCarthy. Colton Orr. Boogard. Brashear. He will always have a fighter, lightweight, middleweight, heavyweight. Doesn't matter. Ockham's Razor bro
4 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/the-clear-cut-case-of-tanner-glass-hes-not-good-at-hockey.html
"Hey SJ Superfan Joe, what did the Rangers get when they signed Dan Boyle?":I
honestly have no idea. He started the year off fine (granted, the
Sharks started off the year ridiculously), but was so, so bad by the end
of the year that I would say he was one of the primary reasons for SJ's
collapse. He is small, so he's not going to give you shut down or PK
minutes anymore at this point in his career. I would say he's probably a
very upscale PP specialist who won't be a complete liability with the
said, two things could mean a renaissance year for Boyle: One, his
season was derailed by a really nasty hit from behind by Lapierre. He
left the ice on a stretcher, was concussed, missed 12 games, and then
returned. Too early, in hindsight, by his own admission. Two, the
Eastern Conference is a lot kinder to aging skill players than the West
is. He won't take nearly the amount of physical punishment, and his
skating won't be as much of an issue. He's still a very nifty skater,
but he's lost a step and he can no longer skate the puck out of trouble.
He'll need to adjust the way he moves the puck (with his hands rather
than his feet) if he's going to be a viable power play option for the
Rangers.This fits into Kev's analysis. If Dan Boyle is going to help the Rangers, he needs to be a PP specialist and get less regular minutes in a bottom 4 role. We'll see.
4 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
@_Jack @johnAMIRANTESrug dying art. Gonna miss those Swede checks...
@MikeBlue Step is solid defensively with a great hockey IQ. If he can get a bit faster and get a quicker release, he will develop more. A 1# center is so hard to get and there are probably only 10-15 in the league. All the bottom teams 1# center would be a #2 on the top teams. Step is CERTAINLY a #2 and can make the push to be a true top center. Brassard on the 2/3 brink as well. The Rangers made a decision a few years ago to go with speed and skill. This isn't conjecture, Gordie and Gorton said that verbatim in the recent interviews with Jim Cerny.I'm guessing you disagree with Skill/Speed over Toughness/Size. We'll NYR went to the cup. So it can't be all badI read above you've been a fan since the 60s. Awesome dude. You were a fan for 20 years before I was born. But guess what? The league is moving towards speed/skill and has been for the past decade. Sure, the ideal situation is a team full of 6'4 tough guys who can skate fast and score 40 goals, but that doesn't exist. There are only a few players like that in the league.You make some good points but you just seem annoyed with the team. You have problems with everything. It's not like they finished last man... Add some optimism to your NYR fandom... You'll drink less and live longer
@GiveGartneraCup @Brukie_ @brian2686 Yeah, that's my point. I'm not saying Girardi is bad and I agree he was obviously gassed, but Stralman vs Girardi... My brain says take stralsy but my heart says GirardiMy heart is pretty dumb though...
@thwacker @brian2686 Despite McIIrath looking shaky and slow, Gordie Clark said he really only played 1 season (100 games) in two years. Then he says "Plus he didn't play much for 30 of those games because he had to fight every tough guy in the AHL. And he beat them all up already." Hopefully Gordie is right (he usually is) and McIIrath is ready to take the next step. Because I've labeled him bust, especially since Cam Fowler was available at the time.I think you might be right about Girardi, but he's going to get the same minutes this coming season too. Hopefully J.Moore/Klein can take some minutes from the top pair. I think they are readyLove Miller, Love Fast... don't know Lindberg... Let's try the young guys baby!Didn't Gorton say they expected Miller to be up? Sather said he'd have played more in the playoffs if he didn't separate his shoulder... so that's nice.
@Say my Name I spent a lot of time defending Nash this year (despite being against getting him both times, the dead-line trade and the offseason move when we got him) and some of it I think was rationally done. With that said, I agree that Nash was a huge disappointment. I do still disagree about his effort level. (I think that's been your main point about him, lack of effort and grit) I think he gave everything he could and came up short... Which might be more alarming than him just floating and underachieving by choice. With that said, Nash could still turn it around. This is probably the first time this guy has experienced the success/adversity that losing in the SCF brings. He was either on teams that just sucked or he was on Gold Medal teams that won rather easily. Now he knows what it's like to play on a winning team, work hard, battle through some bullshit and STILL LOSE. Hopefully he gets pissed off and comes back with a fresh attitude.If I'm the star of a team who went to the 'Ship and lost, and I flat out didn't score, I would spend all offseason working on getting it back. Here's to hoping the Big Fella figures it out, because there is no replacing him or dumping his contract in the near future...
@SmellyKisio It's no surprise that we keep cycling players through our PK and it's still good every year. It's not like it's the coach or some magic philosophy.... We just have an incredible goalie... Too bad goalies can't score
@GiveGartneraCup Are you saying you'd prefer to keep Stralman and not re-sign Girardi? If so, I agree with you. In my opinion, Girardi is an awesome defenseman but I felt his lack of speed was exposed in the SCF this year. Great instincts, great positioning and timing, tough as fuck... Just slow. Who knows what other factors went into the decision for a Girardi extension...
@thwacker Stralman was good his entire tenure with NYR. I still see your point and I agree, but Stralman was better and more consistent than Boyle (in their respective roles). Either way, don't mind either exit because the price just wasn't right for NYR.
@Wallace1 Yeah, same. I understand Boyle and Dorse, but Moore should be staying. I'm excited for the young guys tho
5 months ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
@IhateGaborik @readjunk Did they draft Mike Milbury?
5 months ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/nhl-draft-open-thread.html
@Wallace1 Boyle is gonna walk. He wants to get paid and wants a bigger role. I
don't think the Rangers want to do either, but they are likely more
willing to overpay him slightly than to increase his role, he's a 4th
line PK/Faceoff guy for us. He's awesome at it and I think he's only
going to get better now that he's embraced his bottom 6 role, but you
can't keep everyone. D. Moore is going to stay. He's going to
get paid and he's gonna be a Ranger. We don't need to talk to him
because we know he's going to stay. Someone would have to MURDER NYR's
offer and NYR would have to low-ball him for him to bounce. You talk to
your low priority guys last... usually.The real question is
Stralsy. Are we ready to let him go? Maybe. I personally don't think so
but I can't deny some arguments for John Moore, Kevin Klein and Connor
Allen as 4,5,6 D-men. I'm just afraid of injuries. NYR barely survived
with a banged up McD and that's with a mostly healthy run to the finals.
Other teams had way more injury problems. I think the game plan
is to take a risk on the young guys. We only need to fill a few holes
and probably have enough depth to let a few D get tryouts sometime in
the first 40 games. After that we'll know if Gordie and Glen fucked up
or not. If Connor Allen, Calle Anderson or Dylan McIlrath stick
around... we'll make a few more deep runs. If these kids all flop,
hopefully we can trade for some MOTHER FUCKING FIRST ROUND PICKS
GLENNNN... JEFFFFF... HELP A GORDIE OUT
@scrangersfan @KevinTheNYRBlog @Gianni74 It was about getting something for nothing. Trade Cally for some kind of asset and a potential cup run (we made a hell of a run) or let him walk and test free agency anyway. Cally forced Sather's hand by not caving on the NTC or Money. So Sather got something from an inevitable nothing. Marty gave us a spark this year and he will certainly help out next season. In two years Marty wont be a Ranger because his contract will be up next year. Plus, it's worth noting that MSL didnt play a full NHL season until he was 26. That's 5 years after most NHL players. You could say (MSL has said) that the delay has helped him stay durable. He's 39 but career wise, he's 34. To give you perspective, MDZ is starting his 6th season and he's 24 years old. He'll be on his 8th before MSL would've even had his first NHL season.
@Bueller @Say my Name @DP_Snotty I think Sather was willing to give Cally 6yrs/6.5 million. He was willing to give him a full No Trade Clause, but he wasn't willing to do BOTH. That is the official reason he didn't sign Cally. Whether you believe Slats or not, that's what he said.Sather has gone on the record about hating any form of a NTC. He feels like the players hold the team/GM hostage and rightfully so. Basically he says "I'll pay you a lot of money or i'll give you long term security, but I don't do both." If he really wanted to stay in NY, he should've taken the discount with a NTC. If he really wanted the money, take a risk that you will be healthy and productive for around 6 years.Cally balked at the NTC clause and Sather shipped his ass to Tampa for a hungry guy that wanted to prove people (Yzerman) wrong.
The money wasn't the main issue, it was the handcuffing of the NTC. Sather the Wizard don't play that shit!
Sorry to Hijack the conversation... Well, Sorry I'm not sorry...
@SpazzBrown @KevinTheNYRBlog Still a prospect. He was high risk, high reward when we got him. He's got all the talent, he's gotta get his head right. I think he has commitment issues and is a bit of a head case. That's what I remember about him. I'm sure you could look up an old Herman blog that has all the details and stats. prospectpark?
@Rangers_54 At this point in time, today, Evander Kane is a better hockey player than Kreider. That can change, but Kane is better right now.
Do I want to trade Kreider for Kane? No, I don't. I love Evander Kane though and it would be awesome if he was a Ranger.Also, are you racist? What the fuck man.
5 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/