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@Anthony Petrielli not sure i'd be slotting Kontiola into the 2W position, seems pretty hasty.I do think it's up in the air who plays with Kadri and Lupul, but there seem to be several options. Best could be argued for Santorelli, Frattin, and even Leivo.Clarkson failed when playing with those two, so you have to consider (rationally) that he wouldn't be a fit, but RC showed he tried to force-feed that last year.
Ashton's fate seems to be in his own hands. He has the size and skating, but has yet to show he can produce points and has appeared a step behind mentally. I'm guessing they want another solid C option after Boz-Kad-Holl, and atm only Santorelli fits that bill, unless Komorov can show he could handle that. The question amounts to who plays 4C...i guess Holland will be given those 10-12 minutes.So i'm guessing:JVR-Boz-KessLupul - Kadri - FrattinKomarov - Santorelli - ClarksonAshton - Holland - Kontiola/Bodie
3 weeks, 4 days ago on Troy Bodie re-signed to one-year deal by the Maple Leafs
@RandomScrub @Reversethecurse13 Ah, so Anthony used him in his model as 2W...well, wouldn't be the first time he's wrong ;)
3 weeks, 4 days ago on Mike Santorelli signed by the Maple Leafs to 1-year, $1.5 million contract
So who is this new Kont and why do we think he'll play on the 2nd line ahead of guys like Frattin, Leivo, Clarkson, Santorelli....
@Gilbey93 @Reversethecurse13 frankly i wouldn't be surprised to see Ashton traded.Nonis talked about how Broll and Devane may/would fill in as "tough guys" this season.
@RandomScrub @Gilbey93 so is Santorelli playing W or C. if wing, that will prob be pretty close to the lineup
@Gilbey93 that battle for 2RW is big: Clarkson, Frattin, Ashton, Leivodon't think Ashton will win that one out
@Xxxxxnew @Reversethecurse13 "being on the ice"
3 weeks, 5 days ago on Maple Leafs submit an offer to David Legwand
@Anthony Petrielli @Reversethecurse13 sounds good to me. just hope they concentrate on resources and money to centres first
@Anthony Petrielli Nonis is probably not looking at getting a top 6 winger. Sounded like it may be an open spot in camp to battle, for players like Clarkson, Ashton, or, as he mentioned, Josh Leivo!!
@Jmessih weird, his name reminded me of playing this song on the piano as a kidhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMFeGE2Vzxs
@peterbleafs @Reversethecurse13 mmm, well in the context they were essentially talking about the failures of the bottom six last year: the point was made that a) they did not contribute enough points, and b)they didn't provide enough minutes.But, he defended Carlyle by saying "the coach needs the players he feels comfortable playing 3rd or 4th line minutes." He was trying to justify Carlyle by saying our failures on the bottom 6 were because he didn't have the players. Which is a complete farce, because the players he chose to use, from the Orr's and FML's and Smithsons, there were much better options who were getting overlooked, like the Hollands, Ashtons, D'Amigo's..
"those players HAVE to contribute and provide you with minutes."
Great interview with Nonis on Leaf lunch today.-made the (painfully obvious) point about needing lines 3 and 4 to contribute more, but 'defended' Carlyle by saying its his job to get players the coach feels comfortable using in all situations.-said Franson really struggled last year, "alot because of injury and circumstance"-talked about Marlies who will potentially contribute next year: first name he said (with passion) was Josh Leivo. Also mentioned how the "toughness" role will be filled by Marlies like Broll. Mentioned Granberg and Percy as players...
So basically, we can expect a 3C or 4C either through FA or by trade in the coming days/months....imo, not a good enough appraisal of our centre situation
3 weeks, 6 days ago on Dave Nonis Free Agent Day Media Address
@Jordan29 only Friedman asks good ?'s....BobMcown sometimes too
@Murph2417 *said he wouldn't
my god Johnston, what kind of question is "set the scene for us when you visited Leo in Finland."
Nonis: we have more work to do
@ShiftyD @Reversethecurse13 @RandomScrub Are you dense? Telling someone to fuck off isn't some kind of personal attack.
@lukethenuke worth every penny
@RandomScrub @ShiftyD rules have been made very clear, especially for the hard heads who dont understand the general point of the matter.
@jiggerific fuck off
@CanuckUKinToronto @Reversethecurse13 lol, so you're going to ignore Shanny's explicit comments that we want Bolland back, and nonis said himself he wanted to sign him, but the money didn't make sense...so...
@CanuckUKinToronto well, we're not exactly convinced, considering he thought Bolland at 5 years was going to be a good solution....
@The_Polish_Cannon @Reversethecurse13 if it was 24th overall...If, as you say, nobody trades 1C's anymore, then we might as well trade the lot of them and rebuild through the draft, because the team will be spinning wheels with such mediocre centres..Grabbing a guy like Stastny would have been ideal. But, i'm hoping Nonis does think that he needs to upgrade our centres overall, and just didn't want to make it known publicly...
@The_Polish_Cannon @Reversethecurse13 lol, you think the returns for Kesler and Spezza deserves a description such as "all their young assets?!"Neither Anaheim or Dallas traded anything of significance for either player.
@Bon Scott was a Leaf fan lets hope so...
@Jordan29 Well we definitely need another centre...sounds like it will happen through trade, maybe through FA
@The_Polish_Cannon @Reversethecurse13 yea, Spezza and Kesler definitely didn't just get traded....Stastny wasn't available for free...(i understand the former two players were not coming here, just addressing your point).
obviously, i understand not wanting to slight Bozak by saying we're looking to upgrade our top centres....but, uh....like, he kinda should be doing that
So how many teams have a better centre than our best centre....and Nonis *may* look for a 3-4C....herp derp
@dlb Mad bong hits?
@dlb Mad Franson to the Leafs for a 1st and 2nd
3 weeks, 6 days ago on Leo’s Back: Maple Leafs sign Komarov to 4-year, $11.8 million contract
@CanuckUKinToronto Well, given Shanny's pref for vets, i hardly think our bottom 3 centres are going to be Kadri - Holland - Carrick...maybe Komarov will play C? i dunno..
@leafmealone "What happens when we're 30 games in next year and Bolland has 13 points and is nursing some sort of injury? Should we be surprised?"
@Loric76 @Reversethecurse13 Stralman to TB, no?
@lukethenuke @Reversethecurse13 ooops!
Burke: $6.25m for Engelland and Mason RaymondTallon: $5.25m for BollandMcPhee: $5.5m for OrpikNonis: $6m for Robidas and Komarovwin for Nonis....now get me a god-damn centreman with talent!
@beerleaguepuckstopper basically a kid in his basement
I'm very interested to see what Nonis does to shore up the Centre position, if anything at all (lets hope!)
@leafmealone @Ze_theLeafsFan Kulemin technically not gone
@RandomScrub @Dewy Keon Hogturd two words: Jarred Smithson
@Savo43 @Reversethecurse13 yes i understand that. i won't shy away from expressing my rationale. Just had to express my distaste for your moves like a smart ass, first ;)
@Savo43 @Reversethecurse13 both sideways moves...what's the point?! a centre in a centre out; a top 6 W in, a top 6 W out...and we lose extra assets...therefore, bad trades. better?!
@Savo43 wooww......lol....how about no
@Loric76 And Engelland is making Komarov money...and Komarov is making Raymond money...and you put your left foot in, and shake it all about..
@Alec Brownscombe definitely some good moves.but still unfilled holes at 1C and 2W..
@traNsplantEdneWfie i'm not your buddy, guy!
3 weeks, 6 days ago on Maple Leafs sign Stephane Robidas to 3-year, $9-million deal
@Jordan29 ill take any upgrade to our C depth