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Another point. I REALLY hope they use a fomula very similar to this when deciding who should make the playoffs and who should not.
I like the idea
Big 5 Record
Record of Teams you have beating against other Big5 teams
Record of Teams you have beating against other FBS teams
And IGNORE any FCS teams wins all together, unless you lose in which case you automatically do not qualify to a bowl game.
1 year, 7 months ago on What Each SEC Team Has Really Accomplished Through Four Weeks
Not that it changes the point of your story, but the AAC is technically a BCS conference this year, and thus wins over teams in that conference still count.
I have wondered what John thinks about this.... What faults he sees with it, as he preaches the rivalries..... looks like you play your top 3 and everyone else every other year....
1 year, 10 months ago on Alabama-Tennessee As A Non-Conference Game? Steve Spurrier Has A Schedule Suggestion
Yes... if LSU and Florida do not want to continue to play, and A&M/S.Carolina then let these 4 teams rotate. If Arkansas and mizzou want to join the rotation we have 6 teams.
Bama/Tenn, Auburn/GA can continue thier games if they want....
I am not sure how this is such an earth shattering idea....
1 year, 11 months ago on Schedule Debate: Even Recent History Shows You Can’t Predict Schools’ Future Success
Interested in Andrew's questions as well.... i have always wondered why they are allowing the split to be that way.
1 year, 11 months ago on Big XII Meetings Begin With Big Cash, Scheduling Alliances On The Agenda
Granted, I am counting a little more about total revenue including donations divided by home games. But even then, consider 100k people at 100 bucks a game is 10M..... WAY WAY more than 3M.
Maybe A&M is on the high side here, but I do not think it is unreasonable number including parking passes, consessions and of course... .donations for my tickets
1 year, 11 months ago on Big Ten Leaders Continue To Say All The Right Things About Scheduling; Is the SEC Listening?
Hard to make up 10M for a missing home game.
Should be 2012, and the biggest reason is TV revenue for Mizz/A&M was down 10M from the lack of a payout from the Big12, and reduced payout... A&M is getting donations for the new stadium
1 year, 11 months ago on USA Today Breaks Down School-By-School SEC Cash Flow And Subsidies
"While the University of Texas is still pocketing $20 million a year from the SEC as part of its $300 million contract with the four-letter net, everyone from Texas AD DeLoss Dodds to Longhorn football coach Mack Brown has complained about it. (Dodds admitted last year that he still couldn’t watch it at his home and Brown said the channel gives away too much information about his team.)"
Should change SEC to ESPN, and the contract is 300mil for 20 years = ~15M a year (and they spend another 4 M of that to IMG, so really 11M)
2 years, 2 months ago on Which Conference Will Win The Realignment War? It Depends On Your Definition Of “Win”
In this situation with GA Tech, UVA to the Big10, Vatech/NC State to the SEC I can easily see theBig12 and ACC stand pat at 10 teams each
Join up with the Big12 and have a CCG between them, split that money.
2 years, 2 months ago on How An SEC-Big XII Scheduling Alliance Could Doom The ACC
The only missing component from this are where does Vtech end up, if not the Big12...
On the comment "Texas A&M — 6 (2 on go-ahead drive)"
Not sure if you are saying the last major drive of the game when A&M when up by 12, however Texas A&M never trailed in the game.
2 years, 5 months ago on Miranda Writes: A By-The-Numbers Breakdown Of A&M-Bama
Any chance of the split not being 50/50?
2 years, 9 months ago on Report: “Champions” Bowl To Ink $80M Contract With ESPN
I think the real thing that happened here is more to meet the eyes. This is a shot at the MAC/WAC/Sunbelt/Big East and other middle tear conferences. It basically says "If you do not like our proposals and just want conference champion model for playoffs, then we will support a +1 which will leave you out in the cold." 90% of the time the winner of the SEC/Big12 game would end up in the national championship game. This also would allow them to bid this out for MUCH more money than any other game, including the Rose bowl, and based on the fact that the SEC/Big12 owe the bowl game they get all of the money.
In short, Smaller conferences, do you want a small piece of the pie or do you want the big conferences to team up legally and box you out of the big money.
2 years, 11 months ago on Did The SEC-Big 12 Bowl Announcement Backfire?
I would suggest a combination of both ideas.
SEC East plays the ACC 1 weekend and the SEC West plays the Big 12 another weekend.
Mizzou / Kansas
Texas / A&M
This would also allow for the possibility of
NC State / NC (assuming 1 moves to the SEC)
VT / Virginia (assuming 1 moves SEC)
Along with the rest of the games as listed, most likely on a rotating basis.
This would be the ultimate home-run for the SEC in marginalizing both conferences.
2 years, 11 months ago on Push Begins For Regular-Season Big 12-SEC Games, But SEC-ACC Games May Make More Sense
@JohnVol True, but that just makes the Sec/Big12 worth more $$$$. The bigger the game, the more valuable it is to the TV markets. And with the SEC/Big12 owning the bowl, instead of just being paid to play in the bowl, the game with the best teams is worth the most money.
2 years, 11 months ago on Football Playoff To Be A Big Focus At SEC Meetings
The last answer might be the more realistic than we think. the winner of the champions bowl planing the winner of the rose bowl. While you are correct that politicians would try and get involved, however I do not think they much to stand on. As long as the the winner of the Champions/Rose Bowl would not automatically be awarded the national championship, I cannot see that legislators would have much to stand on.
Just because a major network would pay $$$$ for that game, does not mean that the other leagues are being hurt. They can schedule all of the ACC/BE/MW bowl games they want and the same major networks could pay as much as they want for those games.
This is not much different that the scheduling alliance between the Big10/Pac12, it just takes it 1 step further.
@USCTraveler Your rumored numbers have not been printed anywhere. Not one single place, other than message boards quoting each other. Even the immortal chip bown of ob has not printed them.
2 years, 11 months ago on FSU’s Outgoing Top Trustee Makes FSU’s AD, The ACC, Media Everywhere, And Yours Truly Look Bad
You missed #2 overall, Indianapolis Colts -- Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
That makes 3 Aggies and a full 16 of 32 first round picks.
2 years, 11 months ago on Early Mock Draft Says SEC's Two Tylers Will Be Next Year's Top QB Picks
@AndrewMartin Yes, they are saying... they are saying give us 8 teams and we will give you 1 Billion a year. Since only the major BCS conferences matter here, they can do the typical buyout and give each of the major conference teams 5M a year to agree to join the playoffs (if they are selected) and then 40M/team per game for playing in the playoffs.
And this is only the start..
10 years from now that number could double or triple again.
3 years ago on 10 Reasons Why 4 Is Better Than 8 When It Comes To A Football Playoff
Have you been able to report on as close to exact as possible on what we have to work with here.
My understanding is that ESPN owns all content not sold to CBS. How can we start the SEC network if ESPN owns the content and can show the games without our input (minus the 1 game per team per year football exclusion).
Second, do we know what these "look-ins" entail.
I 1000% agree the SEC has more value (by 50%) than the other conferences, but what is going to force Disney to pay more if they already own the content and we are under contract for 12 more years?
3 years, 1 month ago on The SEC Is About To Get Even Richer
This is a good move for Mizzou and AK, both would be well served by the switch. A&M, we dont care and just would assume to not have a rival as the only teams that make sense for a rivalry for us are AK and LSU. No one in the east makes sense so we can take one for the team.
3 years, 1 month ago on USC Prez Talks Schedules Again; SEC Says Presidents Already Involved In Process; Looks Like 8-Games With Yearly Rotations
I have looked the plan and I do not see anything different with it than just the top 4 conference winners. The ONLY time would be when #2 did not win their conference which is very very rare.
I would be willing to have the top 3 conference winners and then the top at large team, but limiting the way in to just #2 is not ideal.
If anything your plan is just reenforcing that we really need 8 teams.
3 years, 1 month ago on Plus-One System Sounding More And More Like A "Take Down The SEC" System
I would think the SEC east play the ACC, and the SEC West play the Big 12.
Mizzou gets a pass to play Kansas from the Big 12.
That would be the perfect plan, but then the Big12 is still in spoiled brat mode
3 years, 1 month ago on SEC A.D.s Will Discuss 9-Game Schedule; Slive Needs To Push It Past Cowards
@m_Ag Agreed. While we all understand the non-conference cupcake to start the season and maybe one in the middle of the season. We need QUALITY non conference games. I will say Notre Dame is a quality game even if you know you will win it.
As a season ticket holder, I care about watching quality games. As a fan of football, I care about watching quality games.
We need 8 conference games, 1 FBS team, 1 lightweight ranked 50-100 type team (SMU/La Tech/Houston), 1 25-50 ranked team and a top 25 team every year.
The SEC just needs to encourage this.
As for Johns thing about saving rivalries, the way to do it is still the 3-5 plan so you get to play every team every other year. Still get to keep 3 rivalries.
I find it absolutly amazing that they say things like
"We want to make the regular season mean something"
in the same breath "We only want conference champions in the final 4"
Which is it?
Want to make that LSU/Oregon game meaningless, you just did.
No non-conference games will have ANY MEANING at all.
Less meaning than taking the top16 into a playoff tourney.
For that reason, at most, I see the top 3 conference champs (and yes, the big 12 would have to have 12 teams and a CCG) and an at-large bid.
End goal for logic, is still top 5 conference champs and 3 at large bids.
@AndrewMartin@USCTraveler That would be a small price to pay to get the Big12 and Pac12 happy and buy into a real playoff like this.
3 years, 2 months ago on A College Football Playoff: 4-Teams Or 8-Teams
@USCTraveler Except for the fact that no one cares about the fiesta bowl, your idea is brilliant. Give the major conferences their ideal bowl destination and then duke it out from there.
no one really loses here, and the fans win big time.
@tallaman87@safety guy No difference than today. None of the current bowl games, even #3 OSU vs #4 Stanford mean anything.
Question to John: Do you think that *IF* there were an 8 team playoff, on the condition of getting rid of conference championship games, that the SEC would buy into it?
It would overall only add 1 game to 2 teams (15 games max).... with this the SEC will almost always have 2 teams in the tourney every year. My biggest fear is a #7 being knocked out of the top8 because of the CCG.
@airpowerproducts@SEC Ag Never will happen at reliant. Stadium is too small.
Reliant holds 65k I think, Kyle/LSU hold 85+
3 years, 2 months ago on A Divisionless Set-Up Would Help The SEC In Football
@GP for BamaI like this as well... a 4-4 will at least give many college students (who are there for 5 years) the chance to see every SEC team both home and road trip.
Any rivalries here that would be left out that MUST be maintained?
@Leftcoast Louie There was a link someplace that said that the upcomming SEC network would bring a miniumum of 350 Million a year and within 10 years up to a Billion.
20 million buyout is nothing if you can get the proper TV contract.
Think the numbers are extream, College football just overtook Baseball as the #2 sport in america. 20 years ago the NFL did it.
3 years, 2 months ago on Athletic Advisory Committee Formed At Clemson: Time To Get All The Way In | January
Notice how neither school is mentioned by the SEC. Both would be GREAT for the SEC however both do not add value. There have been rumors that the SEC wants the North Carolina and VaTech markets. By FSU/Clemson going to the Big12, this would allow the SEC to raid those 2 states and get VaTech one other to get an even 16.
The money would be huge.
I would rather see a 3/5 plan with 3 perm regional rivals and 5 rotating games. Every other year you play every team around and you keep some regional/historical games intact. Every 4 years you get a home/away with every team in the league.
College students are in college for 4 years. They need to see EVERY SEC team in their 4 years in school, and also need to have the chance to go to EVERY school as a road trip.
Every 7 years does not cut it.
@FallsChurchDore And I agree.... eventually it could be a 9 game schedule as that gives more inventory for both the networks and the SEC network. Both would add $$$$
3 years, 3 months ago on The SEC’s Mr. Transition Talks Scheduling
As far as #2 goes, what do you think about 3 "rivals" per team and the other 5 games rotate out each year. Every other year you play every SEC team, alternating home/away every other time you play.
Love it.... cant believe I just found this idea.
Wonder why no one has talked about it yet
3 years, 3 months ago on No Divisions, No Sweat - Rescheduling the SEC | October
wonder when the last time he put on a cowboy hat before that stupid photo. my guess never
3 years, 4 months ago on Texas Readers: Please Vote This Guy Down