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What, exactly, was "pretty decent" about the job TBS did?  Their comments were superficial and their knowledge limited.  They would come up with the most basic statistics about an inning and a half late.  The constant shots of fans and the managers were distracting.  They improved somewhat after the Wild Card debacle, but not nearly enough.  


One need only listen to the ESPN radio broadcast for 5 minutes to realize the wide gulf between the quality of the two presentations.  Even Fox was a million times better.  I do not believe that Cal Ripkin Jr. prepared for one minute before the games other than schmoozing a bit with the participants.  If he did, it was not evident.


We are spoiled in California with Vin Scully and the Giants' team of Miller, Kuiper, Krukow and Fleming, but this year's TBS coverage must be below anyone's standards, even Seattle's.  Bring back Don Orsillo!

4 days, 6 hours ago on Conversation @ http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/tbs-caught-unlucky-break-despite-decent-mlb-postseason.html

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@CUbsfan @skaus Yes.  Bill Veeck made NBC use the Cleveland broadcaster in 1948 and for thirty years, each club's announcers called the World Series.  That is why Dick Stockton, who was the Red Sox announcer, called Carlton Fisk's foul pole home run on NBC in 1975.  Just now, these idiots couldn't even figure out why there is a patch of sun in front of home plate until the director provided them with a camera shot.  They might as well sit in a studio in Atlanta and announce, like they do on the Tennis Channel.   Bordick and Physioc are hardly on and their little bulletins are stupid, for the most part.

5 days, 6 hours ago on Conversation @ http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/mlb-league-championship-series-announcing-schedule.html

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They need to be in the booth, not fifth wheels.

5 days, 15 hours ago on Conversation @ http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/mlb-league-championship-series-announcing-schedule.html

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Last one from me tonight.  What is the opposite of Sabermetrics?  Herrera comes in and aside from the standard graphic, we learn that he usually comes in for the 7th at the start of the inning.  Nothing else.  No stats.,  Nothing about what he throws.  Nothing about games during the season where he might have been in a similar situation.  These people add nothing of value.  They are utterly unfamiliar with the teams and completely unprepared.  (amazingly Ripkin seems to know little of the Orioles) It is a travesty that they are paid for this.  They have not even earned free admission to the game IMHO.


1 week, 3 days ago on Conversation @ http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/mlb-league-championship-series-announcing-schedule.html

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To be specific, Johnson, Darling and Ripkin have no idea that these teams played any baseball this year before the ALDS.  They have no stories, anecdotes or information from the regular season.  That is why the previous practice of using each team's regular announcer for half the game produced a much more interesting broadcast, not this vanilla pablum.

1 week, 3 days ago on Conversation @ http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/mlb-league-championship-series-announcing-schedule.html

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Remember when Vin Scully used to call the postseason games on NBC?  Even at 86, he would be head and shoulders above this crop of  dullards.  And they could eliminate the color commentators.


I mean Joe Buck and Ernie Johnson.  Shoot me now. Or rather, get the sofa ready for a nap.


Matt Vasgersian did a great job on the Giants v. Nationals game.  His call of Pence's catch and the wild pitch in Game 4 were for the ages. 


I just found this.  Here is a man who cares:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb0ISpGs8xE  Joe Buck does not.

1 week, 3 days ago on Conversation @ http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/mlb-league-championship-series-announcing-schedule.html

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On a positive note, Dave Flemming was great on the Orioles-Tigers game today on the radio, and that is after doing the 18 inning game in D.C. last night (he might have left early, I don't know, the Giants have three play by play announcers).  He knew what was going on, he had opinions where they were appropriate and he was able to easily describe the game so one could picture it in one's mind.  So. pretty much the opposite of Chris Berman, who did the first two games and did not have a clue.

2 weeks, 1 day ago on Conversation @ http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/mlb-postseason-fast-start.html

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Agreed, Chris Berman is the worst play by play announcer inflicted on national audiences.  He must have compromising pictures of someone to be allowed on the air to satisfy his massive ego.  On Monday Night Football, he was totally unable to identify the players involved on each play, presumably despite help from a spotter.

2 weeks, 3 days ago on Conversation @ http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/underwhelming-tbs-broadcast-sucks-excitement-classic-game.html

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This broadcast was so bad that one would think that the entire production team was on strike.


Other than knowing that the Royals liked to run, the announcers knew nothing about the teams.  Even as to the running game, there was no discussion of the many substitutions.  For example, what were the hitting and fielding skills of the pinch runners, many of whom stayed in the game.  Of course, it is unclear that anyone at TBS, realized that pinch runners actually replace the people they run for.  For example, the on screen titles still showed Billy Butler in the lineup a couple of innings after he was replaced.


Did you know that the last time Jon Lester threw to first base was in June 2013?  There was no discussion of how miserable Jon Lester and the other A’s pitchers did at holding runners on.  After all, it was only the key to the game.


There was virtually no discussion of the basic battle of the game: how the pitcher planned to retire the batter and how the batter intended to get on base or otherwise accomplish something.  We heard at least twenty times that Brandon Finnegan had just been in the College World Series for TCU, but I don’t recall anything about how he was pitching, why he was effective and what the A’s batters should do.


Substitute runners, batters and pitchers just materialized.  There were no shots or discussion of the bullpen or substitution strategy.  Instead we shown shots of infielders with various positions labelled.  If this were a shift, that might make sense, but these players were in normal defensive positions for various standard situations.  Bulletin: the shortstop is between the second baseman and the third baseman!


During the A’s big fifth inning, aside from Johnson calling Moss’ second home run that went over the fence in straight away center field as if it were a lazy fly ball, much time was spent interviewing an old codger about why he kept attending Royals games during the twenty nine years between post-season appearances.  Needless to say, he did not have much of an answer. 


There were no helpful camera angles on tight plays, such as whether the Royals runner was improperly in fair territory while running out a ground ball.  The commentary was completely on the People Magazine level, with no statistics or analysis interfering with the flow of the broadcast for Conan’s viewers.  


Just awful.



2 weeks, 5 days ago on Conversation @ http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/underwhelming-tbs-broadcast-sucks-excitement-classic-game.html

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Sad that Marv is gone.  He actually got excited and didn't sound like he was announcing a board of directors meeting!

1 month, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/your-week-1-nfl-announcing-schedule-2.html

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Berman was truly dreadful.  Cespedes has now won for two years and Berman can pronounce neither his first name nor his last name.  


I used to be a fan back when it was John "I am not a" Kruk.

3 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/espns-production-of-the-2014-home-run-derby-falls-well-short-of-expectations.html

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@chrisnfolsom She is ignorant and most of what she says is hateful and wrong, but in this instance, she is yanking our chains.

3 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/ann-coulter-is-back-with-a-new-soccer-column-thats-just-as-awful-as-the-first.html

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Does anybody actually notice which games have MLB announcers and which are retransmissions.  I don't think so.

3 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/mlb-networks-july-schedule-continues-to-showcase-contenders.html

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"Fewer" is correct.  "Less" is incorrect, especially for a university, but even for an online publication!


You had me worried there for a minute.


http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/words/less-or-fewer 

4 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://awfulannouncing.com/

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Can they get rid of those disconcerting and stupid virtual Raptors signs at each end of the court?  They keep eating the photographers!

6 months ago on Conversation @ http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/raptors-official-blames-espn-for-shot-clock-power-outage.html

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and this


B: "we did a game previously."


W:  "We did? When?"


B: "Last week in San Francisco."

6 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://awfulannouncing.com/

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Unless I misheard this:


Walton: "Here we are just a few blocks away from the Berkeley Community Theater where all those great groups played in years gone by.  (Lists The Dead, Jefferson Airplane, etc.)


Bernstein:  "And even today, Green Day is a Berkeley group."


Walton: "Really?"

6 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://awfulannouncing.com/

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Question.  Given that there is going to be streaming of the Fox games, does this still mean that Oakland games in some kind of window are not on TV and, if so, does anyone know what that window is?  


I don't want to see the Yankees on TV where I can't yell at them.  

7 months, 2 weeks ago on 10 teams that are over or under-represented on the MLB on Fox schedule

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I think you could chill out a little.  NBC treats the Olympics like a reality show, not a sporting event.  Of course my viewpoint is based on my perspective.

8 months ago on NBC falls under fire for twisting Evgeni Plushenko story in tape delay

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@Jcool01 @skaus  
Sports fans have NBCSN.  It is in almost as many homes as ESPN.  Here is an excerpt from the Sports Business Journal: "NBC Sports Network’s push to 85 million homes puts it closer to one of its competitors, Fox Sports 1, which is in 87.7 million homes. Both ESPN and ESPN2 are in close to 97 million homes."

8 months ago on NBC falls under fire for twisting Evgeni Plushenko story in tape delay

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You are an NBC defender.  They lied and said he would perform.  

A responsible broadcaster would have led with this story and presented it as news, not this plausibly live nonsense.  The tennis wrap up shows for Wimbledon and the French Open show how to do it.  They keep the excitement, but don't lie.

8 months ago on NBC falls under fire for twisting Evgeni Plushenko story in tape delay

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It was on NBC Sports Network (formerly Versus)

8 months, 1 week ago on NBC falls under fire for twisting Evgeni Plushenko story in tape delay

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Wait a minute.  The game was supposed to be on KNBR 1050 and Hooked on Golf is on KNBR 680.  I was asleep, but I am guessing the game continued on 1050.  Any actual Bay Area sports fan would know to check, although obviously there should have been an announcement if the game was on 680 also.

8 months, 1 week ago on KNBR-AM cuts off USA vs. Russia for pre-taped golf show

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Masur was mainly a stooge for Ted Leitner, who is by far the worst announcer in the major leagues.  I could hear Masur cringe over the radio.  It is amazing that San Diego fans put up with the pomposity of Leitner.  Think Ted Knight on the Mary Tyler Moore show.

8 months, 2 weeks ago on Padres fire radio broadcaster, replace him with football announcer

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Wow.  This was the Buck-love center of the universe last week.

8 months, 2 weeks ago on Super Bowl XLVIII broadcast grades

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Summerall was mainly a foil for Madden and he was able to convey the importance of the moment.

8 months, 3 weeks ago on How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Joe Buck

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You are ignoring the fact that he never called ANYTHING with enthusiasm, especially baseball, and that he was generally uptight and not having fun.  Sports should be fun.  It is fun with Marv or Kenny Albert.  One time, listen to Vin Scully's call of the Dwight Clark catch and the plays before it.   


I agree he is improved to tolerable, maybe better without McCarver who is just fingernails on the blackboard.

8 months, 3 weeks ago on How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Joe Buck

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This is even better, especially for A's fans since it does not include Kirk Gibson's home run.  It does show that this event was a whole lot of fun and that Vin Scully is the best.  http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/01/vin-scully-nhl-dodger-stadium/

8 months, 3 weeks ago on Vin Scully narrates NBC intro for Dodger Stadium NHL game

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In fairness, several reports are that Bruce has lost his job as 49er pre-game host, a plum assignment.  

11 months, 1 week ago on Damon Bruce returned to the airwaves today, ending 2 day suspension

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One of the best things ever was when Damon Bruce was no longer the nighttime person on KNBR 680 and I had someone to listen to again, even if it was F.P. Santangelo!

11 months, 2 weeks ago on KNBR host Damon Bruce tells women to get off his sports lawn

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@martind1 @skaus I wan't responding to you. Did you notice that?   You don't like baseball, so why bother?

The article says, "It's not the pace of the game, the length of the game, or the late start times."  I was responding to that. 

Ricky_Roe above is correct that all this nonsense about "unwritten rules" is a big turn off. (Also Joe Buck and Tim McCarver)

11 months, 2 weeks ago on Kids aren't watching baseball, but why?

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Seriously?   You don't think games lasting until after midnight on school nights are a problem?  Of course, we 65 year olds have to go to bed also!

11 months, 2 weeks ago on Kids aren't watching baseball, but why?

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Nobody in San Francisco wants to ever hear A.J. again.  He cost the Giants Joe Nathan and came here to antagonize everyone.  

That being said, we need people on national TV with some enthusiasm.  We certainly are not going to get it from the clinical Mr. Buck.  These are ball games, not congressional hearings or proctological examinations. Chuck Todd is considerably more dynamic than Buck, Reynolds or A.J..

11 months, 3 weeks ago on Harold Reynolds is the front runner to replace Tim McCarver on Fox

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I am for Eric Byrnes.  he is funny and knows what is going on today.  Also not an old school nimrod.

11 months, 3 weeks ago on Harold Reynolds is the front runner to replace Tim McCarver on Fox

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We did get to hear McCarver say, "that cannot happen" a few dozen times.  He cannot be gone soon enough.

11 months, 3 weeks ago on Video: Here's Fox missing Koji Uehara's game winning pickoff

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@RAYVANCE91 That said, this isn't the Soviet Union and he should not be made a non-person.

1 year, 3 months ago on Tim McCarver says MLB won't let networks show Pete Rose video

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@RAYVANCE91 What about the part where he bet on baseball games and lied about it for several decades?  He can buy the ticket with the $ he made on his "confession."

1 year, 3 months ago on Tim McCarver says MLB won't let networks show Pete Rose video

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Joe Buck and Tim McCarver are a good reason.  Nothing is fun with them droning on.

How about a game with Jon Miller or Dan Orsillo?

1 year, 3 months ago on Why are fewer fans watching the MLB All-Star Game?

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If McCarver is correct, it would be the first time he has been correct about anything since the Yankees-Diamondbacks series in 2001. 

1 year, 3 months ago on Tim McCarver says MLB won't let networks show Pete Rose video

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 @tbennett248 Except Joe Buck hates baseball.  He announces it like he is getting a root canal.

1 year, 7 months ago on Joe Buck may revolutionize baseball broadcasting with the St. Louis Cardinals | February | 2013

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 @michaelgreen327 Vinnie:  "At least at the start of today's game, you will know most of the Dodgers and a couple of the Cubs."  And then he gets into many interesting details of the schedule and it is 1958 all over again.

1 year, 7 months ago on Joe Buck may revolutionize baseball broadcasting with the St. Louis Cardinals | February | 2013

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 @MonkeyWrench32 Wow! 16 second delay.  For network broadcasts I have had to hook two 10 second ones up in series.  But it was worth it to hear @tedjrobinson and @_ericdavis_ call the NFC Championship instead of @buck and @troyaikman.  Ted and Eric actually got excited.

1 year, 8 months ago on New Sony sound system blocks out announcers for sporting events | January | 2013

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I like Siragusa's obnoxious presence as the third man on Fox's 'B' team.

1 year, 9 months ago on 2012 NFL Broadcasting Grades & Recap

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The evidence that "everyone" used PEDs is strong. The Mitchell Report identified 89 players who allegedly used. But, we know this was a sampling, not anything near a complete list. Aside from a handful of random people who spontaneously confessed or were accidentally detected, the Mitchell Report only includes those in webs connected to five providers: BALCO, former Met batboy and clubhouse employee Kirk Radomski, former Yankee strength coach Brian McNamee, and two rejuvenation clinics in the South. Fifty two were associated with Radomski, who was required to talk to Mitchell as part of his sentence for money laundering and illegal drug distribution. Only a fool would believe that all, or even most of the PEDs in MLB came from these five sources. These providers are just the ones who were busted and forced to squeal. You have to believe that there were providers in all major league cities. Think Houston or St Louis. Or the Bash Brothers. McGwire's use was apparently connected to widespread availability connected to gyms, as presumably was the case with many others. Sammy Sosa, to pick a random name, has not been connected with any of these sources. In 2002, the Major League Players Association agreed to testing of all players to see if there was a problem. 104 players tested positive, admittedly a group with some overlap to those identified in the Mitchell report. The results were supposed to be kept secret, but some, like David Ortiz and A-Rod, have leaked out since the federal government obtained a copy of the list. But wait, there's more. Testing procedures have improved since these 2002 tests. Barry Bonds apparently was not on the original list, but when his sample was retested in 2004 at UCLA, it came back positive. It is unknown how many of the "clean" samples in 2002 would be dirty if retested today.

1 year, 9 months ago on Ken Burns rips suspected steroid users, says "those mf'ers should suffer for a while"

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