TigerinMO
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@I4Bama Texass is indeed a cancer. Truer words were never spoken. If Texass ever, ever gets close to sniffing SEC membership, I really hope all the SEC schools will take note of what a horrible partner it has been in other conferences. It has now managed to kill not one, but two, conferences. The Big XII is Texass' lapdog, and I am SO glad my TIgers are out of there.
Yes, please. Revive MU-ku, although the Jayhawks are still too butt-hurt about us leaving the Big XII to agree to it. This game DESERVES to be played. I would suggest, however, that K-State-Arkansas would make much more sense in Kansas City than in St. Louis. Much more convenient to both fan bases.
@frug They wouldn't leave the B12 for CUSA. That's absolutely correct. However, Kansas and Iowa State, both AAU members, are prospects for the B1G if it continues to grow. You can bet that either of them would jump at that opportunity. So the arrogance of saying, "They don't have anywhere to go, so we can continue to abuse them," is not always true. That arrogance is what broke up the B12 in the first place. That said, you are probably right about KSU and Baylor. Hard to figure where they could go to improve their lot. But the rest of the B12, including Texas Tech, Kansas, Iowa State, OU and Oklahoma, are likely to have options in the future. Time to cut back on that B12 arrogance if you want to hold that conference together.
@23451bum This is complete fiction regarding Missouri. The president of Texas A&M said PUBLICLY that Texass' flirtation with the Pac 12 predated Missouri's discussions with the B1G. Missouri is often used as the whipping boy in this for one simple reason: Texass is arrogant as heck and thought that Missouri would NEVER leave the Big 12 because no other conference wanted it. How wrong Texass was. Instead, Missouri was courted as a B1G member (albeit with JUNIOR status and reduced revenue, a bad deal that Nebraska accepted when Missouri balked). Texass was stunned when the SEC took Missouri along with A&M. Texass never thought that would happen. Because of Texass' misjudgment, the Big 12 lost what was far and away its second largest media market (Missouri) after the state of Texas. So the B12 ended up losing its second largest media market (Missouri), its third largest media market (Colorado), allowed the SEC to get a major foothold within its largest media market (Texas A&M in Texas) and lost is second or third largest major national brand (Nebraska, second to Texas and perhaps Oklahoma). What did the Big 12 "gain" back with its expansion? TCU, which brings NOTHING, and I mean absolutely NOTHING, to the TV footprint, and West Freakin' Virginia, a tiny, distant market. Big 12 people don't want to admit it, but so far that conference has lost tremendous ground in realm of eyeballs for TV. And that, my friends, is what conference realignment is all about
By the way, I hope DeLost is enjoying the fact that Mizzou took the Big 12's second largest TV market with it to the SEC while aTm gave the SEC a major TV foothold on Dodds' home turf. Texass arrogance in allowing those schools to leave has hurt the B12 big time. So let's add it up: B12 loses its second and third largest TV markets in Missouri and Colorado. SEC has to start sharing the huge Texas makret with the SEC. B12 also loses Nebraska's tiny TV market but with it loses a team with a huge regional if not national following. What does the B12 pick up in TV markets: West Freakin' Virginia. TCU adds nothing -- absolutely nothing -- to the TV markets. SEC wins big time. B12 loses big time.
Dodds is a dweeb. Mizzou kicked their arses in almost every sport last year. DeLost thought Mizzou would never leave no matter how badly it was treated. He was dead wrong. And totally surprised.
All the old Big Eight schools used the initial of their state first: MU, KU, OU, CU, NU, etc. Back in the early part of the 1900s, our university was commonly known as Missouri University, and Kansas University and the others were similarly known. So it became MU. The moniker has stuck even though today the formal name is University of Missouri.
Missouri also has played four of the top 10 teams in the BCS standings and will play a fifth the last game of the season.
@Gomezaaaa @JamieThornton Can't tell you, but that's what Emmert said at the press conference.
@Gomezaaaa @JamieThorntonIf you listened to the press conference, the NCAA clearly said it DID find violation of rules, including its ethics rules.
This, to me, is the ultimate example of "lack of institutional control" over an athletic program. Assistant coach sexually molests little boys in the Penn State locker room. Head coach, university president and athletics director cover it up. Penalties against an institution are designed to punish the institution, which in this case violated the NCAA morals clause and probably at least one other rule. The football program and the very highest levels of the university administration are at fault and should be punished. Any institution that allows a football program to run amok and let this happen absolutely must be punished or the NCAA becomes an even bigger joke than it already is. Yes, it's a shame that innocent players (and others) will be victims of the punishment, but that happens in ALL NCAA sanction cases. I just don't understand the thinking of those who say the NCAA has no dog in this fight. It does seem strange to me, however, that the NCAA is bypassing its usual time-consuming investigative process, and it will be interesting to hear tomorrow the rationale for that. In the end, though, I think the NCAA HAS to act, although I respect the opinion of those who disagree.
Pinkel is not a Spurrier type who drops lots of one-liners. He is laser-focused. His attention to detail will be equal to that of any SEC coach except perhaps Nick Saban. They both learned that from Don James. Pinkel also is honest to a fault and will tell it like it is, particularly during the season. Over time, I'm sure all the SEC crowd will come to respect him if not like him. He's not going to entertain. He's all business.
It may take a few years, but Missouri will eventually start to land more and more players from the Southeast. The base in Missouri is indeed pretty good. Not great, but better than people think. Add a few from Texas, Georgia and Florida, and suddenly you have some talented players. That's the formula that Pinkel has to follow. Of course, they'll go after prime targets nationwide, too, as this year's offer list shows.
See why we left? SO happy to be out of that dysfunctional conference. And make no mistake about it, Texass is why it is dysfunctional. That's mostly because of this clown.
I believe the dude's name is BERRY Trammel.
The idea of not counting cross-division games is laughable. Why have a conference if you are going to do that?
Missouri appears to be changing its football recruiting strategy a bit: First, lock down the borders, which it is doing better this year than it has in 40 years. Then cherry pick the top talent from neighboring states (Iowa, Kansas) to take advantage of the fact that kids want to play in the best league, the SEC. Keep trying to pluck kids from your recent base in Texas while making a major push into Georgia, Florida and Memphis, to which is actually closer (by a few miles) than is the University of Tennessee. Based on Missouri's past move into Texas, it will take about three years to really get rolling in the new areas. But this staff can recruit. It will happen, particularly if Mizzou has a bit of success on the field.
Mizzou's in-state recruiting is the best it has been in 40 years. I attribute that to the SEC move. Guys want to play in the best conference.
Great to see the Tigers (Missouri, that is) represented. Love the site!