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@BayernTim Yelp, if it is not winning because the other team has injuries, now Mizzou will win only because Auburn was emotionally flat. It does not matter that Mizzou's game was a must win to get to Atlanta the week before also. Remember Mizzou doesn't win, the other team loses.
A few other nuggets:
1) Mizzou may have a season like Miss.St., where they start the year winning due to a soft schedule, but get a lot of losses once conference play starts(John in Athlon's preseason's prediction)
2) The last coach to try that was Mark Richt and the Dawgs didn't do so well( John's comment on Pinkle eliminating 2-a-days and keeping the team healthy during preseason)
3) Mizzou getting to Atlanta is tough,...very tough(beating OL Miss & A&M, Auburn is a title contender(John's reasoning for not ranking Mizzou as a title -contender, but he ranked Auburn even though they had to play the number 1 team.
4) OL Miss offense is hot! They're averaging 40 pts in last 4 games, (Did not mention 3 of those games were against Idaho, Troy & Arky)
M I Z.......Z O U
10 months ago on A Letdown In The SEC Championship Game? It’s Possible, Auburn
@mb6783 No hate. Missouri fans understand John(MrSec) does not know much about Missouri. Heck he thought Missouri City was in Missouri and not Texas. We also understand that the SEC old guard is rooting against Mizzou. They believe that Mizzou's early success takes away from the conference image(how could an outsider be so successful if the SEC is strong?). It does not but the SEC old-guard is so insecure, that they are now crediting injuries to the teams that Mizzou beat.
What about injuries to Mizzou last year?...Did not matter we were told we lacked depth....Where's the SEC depth? Heck Mizzou starts 4 2-stars on defense & 1 4-star. Georgia & Fla has 4-stars on the bench. Proof that the star-system does not matter. At some point John will be correct......Mizzou will lose & the old guard will feel comfortable. In the meantime John keep losing credibility.
11 months, 1 week ago on SEC Game Previews – 10/25/13
In America Owning is always better than renting. ESPN pulled a Don King on Mike Slive. He showed Slive the money and Slive's greed kept him from getting the best deal
If Slive falls for the paycheck and not ownership then he is not as smart as I thought. Short-term thinkers take a check(see Texas). People with vision own(see Big10 & PAC 12) . Yes the Big10 struggled early, but now they have a cash cow, as will the PAC12.
1 year, 5 months ago on New SEC Network To Be Co-Owned? Not So Fast
@John at MrSEC @Statesman
Although the released footage is new to the public, the AD & Prez in November saw Rice kick a player in the fanny. If their judgment & the tape did not tell them that Rice had a problem then they lack the ability to see the big picture. This makes Jeff Long look even stronger, by firing a successful and popular coachhese guys hid behind a loser, as the AD said to "protect Rugers University". That's not leaership
1 year, 5 months ago on Blood, Give Us More Blood: Now Everyone Wants Rutgers Hammered
Defend Mike Rice & his AD if you want, but these were not isolated incidences. In fact ESPN released more footage today and in one he puts his foot right up a kid's fanny, while in anoter he takes the dummy and uses it to hit another kid. How could the AD & prez not fire this guy on the spot?
Looking at this from another perspective, while in college my fraternity was suspended for "hazing another student. The school administrators reviewed the documents and concluded that for hazing one student the chapter should be suspended for 4 years. Mike Rice hazed 10-14 students and was suspended for 3 games and continued to collect over a $ $million in cash from a state supported university, after his superiors review. Do you want these individuals making decisions regarding students, and potential liability?
@John at MrSEC
"Guess a lot of people were delusional".........That happens all the time. Most folks have the herd mentality, even if it means being wrong. Pressey is the only player on the team, with 5 transfers and Bowers(out last season) comprise the 8-man rotation. No other team other than UK can say the same. The conference underachieved, but Mizzou did their part.
1 year, 6 months ago on There’s No Room For Crying Across The SEC Today
MrSec........News flash!!! Mizzou made the tournament. If anyone(including you) predicted a team that returned 1 player from last years's entire roster to be a top 10 team, they were delusional. Even UK's champions & Final Four returned 3-4 role players to supplement the 1 & Dones. Mizzou is in,(although playing Louisville in Lexington insures an early exit).
SEC basketball has 3 issues:
1) the Horrible losses in November & December. The coaches need to prepare their teams just as the other major conferences to beat the early season cupcakes. In the SEC it appears folks are still celebrating football
2) Officiating......the inconsistent officiating hurts the teams and chances to make tournaments. The home team has a decided advantage not because teams cant play on the road,but because the officials call 2 different games,one for the vistors and one favoring the home team. This exist across the board throughout the SEC.
3) In conference Schedule- It lacks rhyme or reason. If football can be broken into 2 leagues then why can't basketball. At least have thedivisions play round robin against each other.
Franklin will be fine. Those who question his toughness forget how he was injured in the spring practice ...He jumped into a pile to recover a fumble. Not very smart, but it illustrated the kind of player he was. In addition the previous year he took players head on. Franklin never should have played last year. He could not throw until June, but even during fall practice he could not throw on consecutive days. Pinkel knew coming into a stronger league that he needed Franklin because the guy behind him was not ready. He wanted Franklin to take the pain-killer and Franklin made the right choice. The problem was theOC kept running an empty backfied and teams were teeing off on Franklin, or the OC would run Franklin up the middle. Pinkel and his staff did not coach very well last year.
Pinkel would love to start Mauck, but he knows Mauck is not better than Franklin. Hecould also by time by telling the alums I started a freshman at qb if therecorddoes not improve. Mizzou fans foundation for Mauck is his high school record & Johnny Football's success as a redshirt freshman....How often does that happen. Mauck is no Johnny Football.
1 year, 6 months ago on MU’s Franklin Tries To Stay Upbeat With Twitter Twirps
John, your comment on Mizzou not getting Warmack goes to the weakness with the overall rating system. Mizzou recruited Abbington a 4 star running back, but missed on Elliott another 4 star running back this year. Warmack selected K-State because they recruited him as a rb, while Mizzou recruited him as a db. Warmack is 5.8 185 and Mizzou is moving away from the small running back(Abbington is 6.2 215) & Markel Smith a commit for next year at rb is 6.2 220). What Mizzou did learn is that in the SEC the bigger back has a better chance than the smaller back that can run wild in the Big12 due to the lack of defensive tackles in the league(not a dt in Big12 is expected to go in top 3-4 rounds in draft). In addition Mizzou has two 5.8 185-190 rbs on the squad(Hansborough a Soph, & Josey a Jr.). You are correct in stating that Mizzou needs to shore up the borders, but this does not apply to this kid.
1 year, 6 months ago on SEC Recruiting Notebook: Race Is On For Fournette
John how long should Ole Miss give Kennedy to make the tournament? There is always a risk involved when replacing a coach. You never know if you are going to get a Buzz Peterson or a Bruce Pearl, but at some point you have to change direction.
Thanks, I enjoy the site.
1 year, 6 months ago on A Tip For Rebel Fans: You Don’t Blow Up The Best Coach You’ve Ever Had
Andy has been there 7 years and has never made the NCAAs. The winningest coach has built his record on horrible teams, see his overall strength of schedule. The coach before him was fired after a couple of down years, but he took the team to the tournament and did not pad his record against the 'lil sisters of the poor". Finally when he loses to a team that has lost 13 in a row, and is down to a few scholarship players, then he should be fired. Maybe they will need to call Bobby the Kennedy that would cut your throat.
Frank has ALWAYS thrown his players under the bus. As a Mizzou grad I followed Frank Martin at K-State and after each loss he would blame the players, and at times even drop names or plays(you knew which player) that led to his defeat. His act will wear thin because behind all of his tough talk is the fact that he can not coach basketball. Look for players to be thrown under the bus in the future.
1 year, 7 months ago on USC’s Martin Says He’s Still Got His Team’s Back
The 1 & done has adversely affected all of college basketball. The ACC is down! The Big12 is down! The Pac12 is down. The Big East is down Only the BIG appears to have quality and depth. The S-E-C can always fall back on, "We're a Football league"
1 year, 8 months ago on The SEC's Tourney Files - 1/9/13 (Looking Like A 3-Bid League)
I agree that there are not any guarantees involved, howvever the ACC's instability benefits the SEC. The SEC wants Carolina & Va. Tech ideally To capture the Carolina, Va. & DC market. Slive is willing to take Duke if Carolina mandates. However if UNC & Duke go to the Big10, then Slive still has NC.St to fall on for the Carolina market. NCST is the 2nd most popular school in the state behind UNC(Duke fans are Durham only in state). So at worst the SEC gets NCST & Va.Tech which provides Carolina, Va, & DC markets.
1 year, 9 months ago on Big Bang Theories: The Countdown To Super-Conferences (Part 3)
Mike Slive has illustrated that he can go on the offensive & be defensive in one move. Why would Mike Slive sign a Bowl agreement with a league that was on life -support at the time of the agreement? Why would Slive not work out an agreement with a conference(ACC) in larger tv-markets than the Big12(Texas & 4 small states)?
Signing the Bowl deal with the Big12 gave LONG-TERM legitimacy to the Big 12 as the 4th major conference, while dooming the ACC. Legitimizing the Big12 was done to accelerate the demise of the ACC so that the SEC could expand into North Carolina & Virginia. If the ACC remained strong then the odds of the SEC moving into those states diminish. That in my opinion was the most astute move in this game of realignment.
@winnerjim @JamieThornton @david1314
Jones inherited an undefeated team from Kelly, while Strong took over for a coach that could not win or recruit and was fired. Strong rebuilt a program while Jones at best kept a program at a certain level. It is not always how high you are, but sometimes how far you have come.
1 year, 9 months ago on Report: Jones Emerges As ‘Front Runner’ For UT Job
Not sure your issue with Strong, but folks said the same thing about James Franklin &Kevin Sumlin. Even before the season started you implied more than once that Sumlin may not be the right coach for A&M even after his successful run at Houston. You implied (more than once) that Sumlin was in the hot seat even before he coached a game. Now Charlie Strong'S success at Louisville, his experience at Florida does no tmake him SEC-headcoach material(see Petrino's record, Louisville, SEC assistant-1 year in pros). Now other than the mistress and bike ride please explain why Petrino was a "GET" while Strong is a "REACH" . Then John please look at the other head coaches in the SEC and their experience before their current positions and tell me how Strong's background differs? Other than Saban I do not see any difference. C'mon John help me with your (il)logic.
1 year, 9 months ago on What Next, Tennessee?
Gruden may be the most over-rated coach of all time. He should know that unlike Tampa Bay there is not a ready-made team in place.
1 year, 10 months ago on As The Gruden Turns: Hogs Swing And Miss, Vols On Deck (And Sources Say They’re In Good Shape)
Chris I believe that the university and most reasonable folks find it offensive for a group of people to gather and shout racial slurs. Is it illegal? ...No, but it is not what a university with Ol Miss history or no history at all wants to project.
1 year, 10 months ago on UM Once Again In Racial Row; Freeze Not Happy With Media Portrayal
Sumlin understands that his reactions on cameras can & will come back to haunt him after a tough loss. As a former athlethe I believe that somethings should stay in the locker-room.
1 year, 11 months ago on A&M’s Sumlin Needs To Lighten Up Over Victory Celebration Video
John, as if you were impartial and not rooting against Mizzou & A&M. Your hand was exposed when you criticised the student video, "not SEC-like". Anyone with half a brain (or objective) would know that A&M did not put up that billboard. That has the Longhorns written all over it, as retaliation for the Aggies putting a billboard in Austin Texas.
The newbies understand that the SEC community would like to see them fail(losing reinforces that the SEC is the best conference), but you are the first blog host to come out and admit it. The games will be decided on the field.
M I Z.............Z O U
2 years ago on Got Stupid? A&M Taunts UF With Billboard In Gainesville
As a Mizzou Alum I think that Sheldon's comments were ill-timed and not very thoughtful. I believe the pressure & hype of being in the SEC is affecting the players & coaching staff. The no respect mantra is wearing thin. Let's win at least 1 SEC game before the trash talking starts.
As Richt asked, "did he say old school", because there is a difference between old school & old style. The former is a compliment.
Injuries & suspensions are not acceptable....btw Mizzou is without their top rusher Henry Josey, who's out the entire year. He ignited Franklin & the offense last year, but we can't use that as an excuse.
Finally most SEC-schools were pulling for UGA beforeRichardson's comments (except USC, Fla, & Tenn for obvious reasons).
2 years ago on Mizzou's Richardson Takes Some Shots At UGA And Their "Old Man" Style Of Play
Can't compare apples & oranges. Totally disagree with your stance. What we know as a fact is that the Michigan kids's transgressions broke the law, while Sumlin stated that the A&M kids broke team rules. I believe that team rules are important, but you can't compare a guy that was facing a felony DUI-(pleaded down), & theft with the vague team rules. Team rules could be missing a practice, etc. Until you know what the kids at A&M did you cannot compare the two situations. Comparing the two is similar to Penn St. folks asking why was their NCAA punishment more harsh than USC-Trogans. Apples & Oranges
2 years ago on Michigan’s Hoke Just Made Texas A&M’s Sumlin Look Bad
If you remember I made that prediction 2 months before the press came out and said that young Buss did not want to let go of Bynum in an Anthony trade. This was not a reach...............like Artest is guaranteed (lol).
Steady the game is place on the court, not on paper. However if I played it on paper then I would say that Howard wil make Gasol better and he will just rebound,rebound, rebound, & rebound.
2 years, 1 month ago on THE KNICKS ARE SERIOUS. ROLL WITH US OR GET ROLLED OVER. MID SEASON BANDWAGON JUMPERS WILL BE CALLED OUT AS SUCH. | August
Rational vs. Irrational,
1) The Lakers are old (Kobe & Nash), while the Knicks are young (JKidd, Camby)
2) The Lakers are counting on a guy with a bad back,(Howard), while the Knicks do not need Stats......Right
3) You can't count on Gasol because of last year's performance. Don't pay attention to Felt-OFF last year he was in the wrong system.
4) Mike Brown has not proven that he can coach a winner. Woody never had the right mix in Atlanta.
5) JR Smith is rational. Ron Artest is irrational
6) Nicholson or Spike. Both are past their prime.
Congratulation and I for one appreciate your advice regarding the PSA-exam
2 years, 1 month ago on SEC Headlines – 8/1/12
Neither of the pair won a championship, although they were/are great players with great stats.. Do you think that is a coincidence? Having the Pick N Roll as part of your offense is good, but having it as your offense does not allow the other players to grow and mature.
Well Brewer will not look to go one-on-one. He should start over the streetballer JR Smith. If JR is hot let him play, bu tif he is no,t show him the bench. JR adds nothing but scoring. He's not a poorman's Microwave.
Peace & Blessings.
2 years, 2 months ago on NBA VET STATES LIN'S CONTRACT MAY HURT EVEN HOUSTON | July
Tman it is over ,let it go. He's gone. As Steady wrote
1) Hop on the bus....... Gus
2) Get a new plan........Stan
3) Don't have to be coy..., Roy.
4) Don't give in............Lin
BTW..Running the pick n roll on every play is one stp up from isolation. They both are boring over time, and do not put every player on the floor in position to score.
Peace & Blessings
Tman it would be too simplistic to attribute gains or losses on the stock to Lin. You need to look at the movement in the market as a whole(S&P 500), what variables were involved at the time Lin started his run eliminate the firstfew games because you would be assuming that the market anticipated this unknown to takeoff, so the any stock increases in his first game were attributed toother variables). Was the market coming off a selloff when he started.
What was going on in the market when Lin signed with Houston & was the Hedge Fund guys using their inside information that the Feds are aware of to sell the market down,(was the market selling off). Finally assuming Lin's signing with Houston cost MSG over $100 mill is too great of a reach for even Peaceman.......well maybe not if he predicts JR Smith's endorsements are about to take off.
2 years, 2 months ago on Like Linsanity Before It, Decision on Jeremy Fueled By Emotions | July
I don't understand. What are you really saying?
@Orange_and_Blue @Steady @Tman
Possible Meltdown!! Call 911, if it is working.
@MODI @Statesman @Lives @Steady
In the hood the phrase regarding Dolan to Lin: "hecalledhisbluff"......
Dolan was also heard sayin to Lin " I'm Rich, Biotch".
Peace & Blessings to those serviced by Pepco on a stormy night.
I thought putting a guy in the all-star game batting .275 in his rookie year was a bit too much, but ..........a guy plays well for approximately 1/3 of a regular season and ESPN covers his free agency in detail...........Geeeze.
America is always looking looking for the NEW HERO. They already have the villain(LeBron to Dwight Howard, with Melo on dec.
@MODI @Lives @Steady
So does Lin's miscalculation make him a dumbass as well? Or oly Dolan is a dumbass,even though Lin cost himself millions in endorsement dollars?
@Lives @Steady @MODI
'Lives', I agree with your linear equation (Lin + New York + China, etc). However Dolan was not the only one at the table thinking linear. Lin's team(agents, puublic relations, etc.) also had to know that it was in Lin's best interest to be in New York. The amount of off-the-ourt money that he would have made working out of Mecca, as opposed to Houston is far greater than an extra $5-$10 mill for ONE YEAR. Malpractice?
Lin's handlers short-sigthness compares with Hasim "Rockman" Rahman (remember him) decision to sign with Don King because King brought a $1mill in cash in a suitcase during a visit.There were other offers on the table to make Rockman bigger money long-term. However, Rockman was blinded by the IMMEDIATE money signed with King for 1 big fight and was outa-sight-outa-mind soonafter. Did Lin's folks get blinded by the sure money?
Peace & Blessings
Fifty-Fifty must be his goal, because twenty-eighty, is his reality. He's JKidd behind a keyboard as opposed to a steering wheel.
LinLovers will can't t admit that he's not an Alpha-Male. They keep preachin he will get better. Your jumper can improve, and your handle may get better, but you can't become an Alpha-Male. You either are, or you are not. Lin is not. Now for those that will say he was off the waiver wire and he could not exert his leadership. I present one Avery 'lil General' Johnson. Cut multiple times and even once by the Spurs, he was ordering the Admiral around from day one. Either you are, or you are not.
Agree that they are grown men, but when has being grown men kept men from being petty, immature, or selfish. Woody has to meet with the guys and ask for a committment.
The treadmill or treadwheel continues in the Garden.
Clyde at one point liked Duhon.. Clyde was a player, and now is a broadcaster, but there's a reason that he never coached.
You said it best, "the Knicks lose nothing". However you write as if Folks can't watch Lin and objectively reach a cnclusion. I think that you are being emotional or swayed by the 25 games. I agree he is a quality backup at best, but how many quality backups get 29 guaranteed? Even Duhon only got 10. BTW.. You do an injustice by giving him a floor of a backup.
On this current team does Lin make them better? I don't think so. Nor does he provide what they need.
I agree with your description of this team. I still believe that it lacks chemistry. However, if you add Lin to this team they wil have the same issues. I am not sure why folks are acting as if this is a young Clyde the Knicks are allowing to walk away.
Modi & Fanatics!!
Modi not since your Starbury writings have I totally disagreed with your position, on an issue. Just like the politicians and political strategist in the nation's capitol you are attempting to put folks into two very narrow boxes,1) Lin supporter, or 2) Lin hater, your version of liberal or conservative. What about the Independents".
As an Independent I am not influenced by a sound-bite or headlines. Loyalty toward Lin, or his distractors will not influence me. I have rached my position based on what is best for the Nation as a whole, (Knicks'Nation). I will not allow one issue to determine my vote, be it a woman's right,or breaking down John Walls'ankle,(a feat accomplished by many). However some issues carry more weight than others (same-sex $hyt, and the Miami Heat game). As an Independent my goal to stay objective.
The Independent opinion is that the Knicks mad the right decision. Lin has maxed out on his potential. The league or other points will attack him and he lacks the "mental" makeup to be successful in the NBA. He lacks the physicality, and the ability to go left. The Knicks would be wise to invest in a young point guard that jus needs to be coached up.
I prefer humility to a chip. However, some of the questions were insulting and deserved Pinkel's response. For example the question referring to how did it feel being in the room with the other SEC coaches. As Pinkel said he knew 2/3 of them so it was not a big deal. He played college football with Saban, Miles coached in the Big12 against Pinkel, as well as the Auburn coach(1 year), Muschamp was an assistant at Texas. Why would he be overwhelmed?
I think after an adjustment period Mizzou will do just fine.
2 years, 2 months ago on Call It What You Want, Mizzou’s Pinkel Has Got A Chip On His Shoulder
Modi...please bro, keep it honest. Lin is not Vinnie Johnson. Vinnie was tough, physical and had a sweet jumper.
2 years, 2 months ago on ADVISORY TO DOLAN: DO NOT RE"LIN"QUISH LIN | July
Darren Colison was traded to the Mavs. The Knicks missed an opportunity. Well business > basketball in Mecca
2 years, 2 months ago on KNICKS SUMMER LEAGUE ROSTER ANNOUCED | July
@Steady @Peaceman @Tman
"any Blogga worth his salty Planters can get a Minute, let hilife reel"-----line of the offseason. If Peaceman only understood then the kid from the Cuse who was predicted to sell insurance never would have been discussed a few offeasons ago.
Familiar with James White, he's from Gorgeous Prince Georges. Was a high school vagabond that went to Florida and played with the point guard that could not miss a shot during D'Antoni's first summer, ...Anthony Roberson, as well as David Lee. As soon as they left Florida and Noah, Horford, Brewer, & Green settle in, illy Donova won 2 NCAA-chips. White has not been able to stick in the league, ad now Peace has him as the Savior.......Only on Knicksfanatics.
BTW....I am willing to bet any Fanatic $100 on your $10 that come opening day Minister Louis Farakahn grandson will not be on the opening day roster in Mecca. We have a better chance of the HOF coach on th sidelines than this happening.
The Knicks are the perpetual 1 step forward and another 2 steps backwards organization.. The league is phasing out the BIG and the Knicks signed Camby to back up Chandler Neither has a post-up move, but if Miami ever puts Battier on the wing, they'll block his shot........from 3 pt land
J. Lin? It's business not personal
Let's put J.Kidd & George Clinton on the mothership and make them Unfunky UFOs. They're both past their prime & killin their legacy. Both have destroyed their bodies, and both are attempting to perform in a young man's game. Knick fans are One Nation Under A ................Rock
6) Clyde....the Knicks may as well signed Clyde if nostalgia is what they want.
Let me clarify. The point guard is to help the team get easy baskets via, steals, run-outs etc. I continue to advocate a pass-first point. No double talk here. My major point was young legs, a youngin. Look at Rhondo. He gets the Cs easy baskets by breaking down defense, steals, or geting out and running. The Knicks as currently constructed are ntathletic, or should I say tht they lack quickness. J-Kidd will get out and run, but he looks like an elderly personon the highway in the far left lane refusing to get to the right.
He slows everyoe down.
Regarding Melo and who tells him to shoot less to make the team better. That comes from the coach or within. Ex. IT was averaging 24 -25 pts a game before Chuck Daley took over. They were losers. Daley told him that he neede to score less, and wait until crunch time to take over. Look at IT's scoring numbers and you will see that he sacrificed to win. Does Melo have IT in him?
2 years, 2 months ago on Chris Paul declines Clippers’ three-year, $60 million contract extension | July
I would not allow other teams dictate who I have running the point. K idd is done and the leadership/experience is overblown. The Knicks need a guy with fresh legs and some zips. A guy that can use his speed to get some easy baskets. A guy that can get some steals. The Knicks have to work hard for their points because they lack quickness & speed. This could be Felton, Sessions, or I would look to acquire Darren Collison. He's now a backup in Indiana, but he could start for the Knicks.
Also I would let JR Smith go. He's one dimesional and does not performwell against the top teams.
J-Kidd? 10 Years to late!!. This is a move of desperation. He's done. he Net have move forward (Brooklyn), resigned Wiliams to run the point, and the Knicks have moved backwards o signing a guy that is doing is retirement tour. This ranks up there with some of Isiah's best/worst, or Donnie signing Duhon to start.
Linsanity put the Knicks in a bind as hey attempted to serve two masters(basketball & marketing). Never has a player cotributed so much in one aspect while offering so little on the court. This is the negative side of Globalization and Branding. You take losses to expand your product with the emphasis on the numbers and not your product.
J. Kidd + Linsanity <Mario Chalmers
The Lakers now have the Knicks' issues. The Lakers have a star (Kobe) that needs the ball in his hands to be effective, and a point guard that needs to domiate the ball. Kobe does not move without the ball, & has never played with a point guard that dominates the ball. Kobe will make Carmelo look like Shawn Marion. In addition Bynum needs touches inside so the middle willbe clogged. We know what Chadler being in the mddle has done to Amare's game. Mike Brown unlike Alvin Gentry will not run D'Antoni's system. Young Buss ccould be in over his head.
Also Nash only plays one-side of the ball, offense. Westbrook, Paul others will dminat him on ofdominate him on offense.
Peaceman, lok for more Linsanity in the Garden.