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1 year, 4 months ago on The 100 greatest football moments of all time
Fascinating as always. The major omissions for me would be Heysel, Munich, Superga (although these were more 'important' than 'great') and Jimmy Glass '99.I do wish there were more actual "moments" than summaries of important matches, particularly in the top 50. I'd also like to see more moments that transcend football on the pitch alone; for example, Kepto and Gun: in the era of fanzines, phone-ins, supporters' clubs and Fever Pitch, it was clear fans had a voice and influence on the game (of varying levels)...this story (that it was fictitious is irrelevant) and the reaction to it showed how football is universal and can bring anyone together.I don't see why there are 2 moments of the Mourinho vs Barca saga; can these not be distilled into one? Pick the most important and lasting, include a summary of the other? Nice read though
I would expect THAT goal in the 1970 World Cup Final to be number 1. A team goal of the highest quality on the highest possible stage by what is regarded the greatest ever international team at the best tournament of all time...add the impact of it being the first truly global World Cup in the sense that it was televised, which resulted in the benchmark for everything that followed. In the words of Nick Hornby: "In a way Brazil ruined it for all of us. They had revealed a kind of Platonic ideal that nobody, not even the Brazilians, would ever be able to find again...as if 1970 was a half-remembered dream they had once had of themselves...[the rest of us] couldn't even get close, and we gave up."
MDelaneySTRJONESIOM Even as a massive fan of Giggs, I have to agree...while he has been one of the key players of all the great United teams of the last 20 years, he has never been in the top 2/3 of any of them; i.e. never the truly special individual, just an excellent team player. It's similar in a way to how Kenny Dalglish is the only Liverpool player from their heyday to make the list.
Really enjoyed this, well worth the wait...one real criticism is that it needs some editing in terms of typos, etc...which I am sure will be done over time and re-editing. I like how you've tried to be as objective as possible when it comes to players like Bobby Charlton, who, as good as they clearly were, are expected by some to be higher for iconic/romantic reasons.
My two cents? - I can only comment on players I've seen enough of, from my lifetime (so from the late 80s) and based on that, the only major omissions for me off the top of my head were Deschamps, C Ronaldo and possibly Raul. I fully agree why Batistuta didn't make it; and being honest, I didn't expect personal favourites like Seedorf and Thuram to quite make it, but that doesn't completely soften the blow. Niggly thing: I would never put Ronaldinho - for all his natural talent - as high as you though.
1 year, 7 months ago on The 100 greatest players of all time
I thought this as well, because in spite of losing one of the most 'iconic' players in '09, the vast majority of the side remained virtually the same throughout the 5-year 'cycle'...I disagree with Football Pantheon on the argument that losing Ronaldo and Tevez = an end to the cycle.
However, I get the feeling that the way Football Pantheon calculate points would actually make United 06-11 have FEWER than 06-09 because of the 09-10 season lowering the average. I'm still not 100% on how the calculations are done, otherwise I'd have checked and used that in any challenge to the list.
For similar reasons, United's 92-97 side would probably fail to make the list (I disagree again that 'Summer '95 really broke the team up as much as is claimed by many) because of their lack of success on the European stage nullifying the domestic successes.
Otherwise I'm pretty impressed by the list, absolutely fascinating
1 year, 8 months ago on The 50 greatest European club sides