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What is the minimum amount of players required to fill out the roster if we took that approach next season?
This could give KD a reason to spend move time playing at the 4. For the right price, if he's willing to take a one year deal, it could be very worthwhile.
@Shake Down the Thunder @K-Dagger Daniel Plainview their core players aren't old enough for it to matter. They don't have any older players on long, big contracts. It's just a lot easier to underpay older guys who are desperate for a ring before they check out of the NBA for good instead of younger guys who still think they deserve more and have plenty of time to think about playing for a championship team
@ou_sas definitely gonna have Thabo on Kobe because of his wingspan. The long arms work better on Kobe then the super ball-denial. Kobe can get the ball no matter how hard you try
Steve Nash is now with the Lakers. Russell Westbrook is still going to destroy the Lakers' point guards
@diddoff @cemitten Cavs are taking one of either MKG or Harrison Barnes. There's no way they go for Waiters because all he provides is a guy who can go one-on-one and get to the basket. The other two players provide more. Barnes gives them a shooter to open up lanes for Kyrie and MKG provides tremendous wing defense and hustle and offensive rebounding and slashing and finishing ability. Waiters isn't as versatile because he hasn't developed his jump shot well enough yet.
@Legendary_dork I think it goes way beyond that; we need more offensively competent big men. Otherwise, how can Brooks tailor the rotation to not stall our offense while keeping a good enough (read: smart) defense on the floor. Let's all pray that Cole can put the moves on opponents next year off the best. #Cole4MIP
@diddoff I don't think there's a "right price" when you're talking about Steve Nash. He would command a lot more money somewhere else and get a lot more playing time. He would be a backup to Russ in OKC (unless we moved Russ to the starting 2) and most importantly, he wants to sign a 2-3 year deal to finish out his career. Considering how strapped for cash we will be starting in the 2013-14 season, we'd have to have two franchises' cash flow to make that work
@courtsense If I had to guess, it'll probably be all 3, but I think it starts with Westbrook. Stats aside, just watching his game, when he players with a sort of controlled chaos is when we're at our best. He needs to keep driving and kicking to guys like Thabo and Fisher so they can swing it to Durant and Harden and whoever else. He'll have an easier time passing to the "others". Also, I think Serge has to step up and hang on to the ball when he gets the dishes down low. He tends to blow 2-3 dunks per game by just dropping the ball.
@OBoymuzik @justin_mia He's right. Too many lazy passes and things of that nature. Too many fast breaks where he calls his own number and runs a man over instead of passing to one of two guys running on either side of him. Those mistakes are unforgiveable because it takes from us and gives to them. I'd rather him jack up shots and miss them than turn it over because a missed shot is (oftentimes) better than no shot
@justin_mia @SB718 The stats at this point are less important than the mindset. He has all the skills to be dropped 20-4-7 on these guys. He seems the most nervous of any one of our major players right now.
@OBoymuzik @Lost Ones Agreed. And we oughta hope he agrees to an extension instead of opting to become a RFA
@JimboSlice @LPCes99 I'm not saying he'd great at everything. But given our situation the last three or four years, he's the best we've got. I watched a clip from bomani jones speculating on brooks as our coach, and he summed it up well: brooks comes with a low price tag. And he doesn't bring a lot of ingenuity to the table but he doesn't take much away from the team. Provided that our guys are on the floor, our talent should pull us through. We're never going to have doc Rivers or svg but we can look to the improvement in brooks as a coach as a positive sign for the future.
@justin_mia Fisher had 3 or 4 attempts in the 4th quarter alone. He should probably have that many a GAME.
@LPCes99 I wouldn't pin this on Brooks. At the end of the day, it was a 6 point loss and players make plays, not coaches. There were a lot of 50/50 balls and plays that we could have turned in our favor with more energy and effort. For some of the bench guys, if you get a chance to get in the game, you've gotta make the most of that opportunity and earn the right to play when given a chance. The starters also have to play smarter so that the role players don't feel like they need to take over the responsibility of swinging the momentum. Brooks knows this and the players know this, but they just let it slip away these last two games. Scotty is a good coach and deserves a lot more credit than he gets. He took on the task of coaching a bunch of young talented players and putting them in a position to win. And every night we take the court, we undeniably have a chance to win. It comes down to competing on every possession and I think Brooks motivates his players to compete and work hard every single play of the game. With the team's talent and that mentality from the coach, we've gotten this far and are still 3 wins away from a championship. He's a good coach.
@ATH @Lost Ones Russ adds more on defense. I can't recall a single play on defense where Russ got scored on. Nothing stands out because he gave 100% on D every play of the game. You can't say that for everybody else.
The lineup to end the 3rd was the weakest OKC lineup I've seen all season. It compromises too much in terms of defense and rebounding without enough offense to compensate for it. Not enough Westbrook in this one. Sat out a significant chunk between end of the 1st and the middle of the 2nd and wayyy too much in the 3rd. He had that mid-range pull up going a lot better than in the last two games which would have opened up more driving lanes. Also, too much standing around on offense for some pretty significant plays. One play, Harden had it at the top of the key, dribbled, KD on his right, Russ on his left, neither asking for the ball, no screen from Perkins = isolation drive resulting in a turnover. Unacceptable decision/play call and far far far too sloppy in this game. We gave them a game on the road with an awkward rotation in addition to letting them get all the 50/50 balls. On defense, it didn't look like the guys were helping each other out early enough. LeBron had too many offensive rebounds, but what do you expect when Perk is boxed out and the only people left to challenge him on the boards are either Harden or Fish. KD really has to step it up by not just grabbing them with his superior wingspan, but to establish position and force them to go over his back to get the ball. He had a few right in front of him and guys like Bosh and Wade (two guys you can't ever forget about on the court) swoop in and grab them up. When KD makes the little plays, it makes everybody else want to dive on the floor and muck things up and play with greater energy.
I can't remember who brought this up, but Westbrook didn't have many other options late in that game. When Russ shoots too much, half of the reason is because nobody gets themselves in a position to take the ball from him and get an easy basket. Sure, you can throw it to Durant to isolate, but Russ knows that the team has a better shot if he uses a screen to get an open mid-range shot. He just needs to focus in and finish at the rim better. He missed a lot of layup opportunities and I can live with that. Without Russ, we're not even in the game. So, we lost the game. Nobody can blame him. The entire team is to blame. Sure, Harden had a great night and Durant scored 16 in the 4th and had an opportunity to tie it, but we lost and nobody deserves any real credit because we shouldn't have started that slowly, and it's just about everyone's fault.
@Landstander I totally forgot about that! He really started to shine in that moment, and that one moment is proof enough of how loving and classy our fans are. The fans oughta make sure they show Russell some love when he goes to the line too. I know KD is the MVP of our team and all, but maybe someone should start an MVP chant for Russ when he gets to the line when he's performing well. He deserves it for how much effort he expends on a nightly basis just in order for us to win