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Good summary, Andy. Hearing those Dallas fans cheering made me ill. Added insult to injury. The only good that can come out of that is if John Mara is embarrassed about it enough to make the coaching changes needed (in my opinion at least Fewell and Quinn gone).
Ironically the Cowboys have become what the Giants were known for - good, tough offensive and defensive lines and a good running game. The Giants (Reese?) have let the team rot from the inside out. The skill players are great and I love Beckham (sure is an improvement on the last Beckham that was a Giant) but if Eli is getting killed on every pass play and the defensive line gets NO pressure like on that last Cowboys drive, then all the skill players in the world aren't going to be enough to offset the weak lines.
I am encouraged and thrilled by what I see from Beckham if he stays healthy (and I have a gut feeling that's a BIG, important IF) but I just don't see the Giants being any better than mediocre until they get serious about building the lines into something that is a strength of the team rather than a weakness.
Had to get that out of my system. Thanks for letting me vent!
1 day, 14 hours ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/dal-31-nyg-28.html
I agree with dbs50's comment about Beason. Beason's impact in such a short time actually is an indictment on Reese's neglect of the MLB position. Totally agree. and well put. Just the fact that Beason could come in so quickly and make such an impact says something about Beason but also says something about the state of the Giants' linebackers.
I also wondered why JPP's surgery never happened until June. We will probably never know if this was the teams decision or JPP's.
I've got to say I have lost a lot of confidence in Reese. I also read Pat Traina's article and it is excellent. It almost appears as if Reese is in over his head. I do not have confidence that Reese will put together the correct pieces when he is in charge of rebuilding this team, which is right around the corner. He can call it whatever he wants but there is no doubt that the Giants have some rebuilding ahead and I am not sure if Reese is up to the task.
1 year ago on The Sound of Denial
Just wondering how much of the improvement in the Giants pass rush last week has to do with them finally being in the lead for most of the game. When the other team has to take more chances to come from behind that has to help the defense. Hopefully JPP continues to improve each week.
One thing I wonder about - what is going on with Kiwanuka? He seems to be a non-factor now that he has moved back to Defensive End? Have we seen the best of Kiwanuka? If so, I am hoping they get Damontre Moore more involved.
1 year, 1 month ago on Pierre-Paul Shows Signs of a Return to Form
I agree with the comments here. This is the worst I have felt after a Giants victory in a long time. The Giants defense did a good job, but the Giants can't face Minnesota every week with a new quarterback. The Giants' offense still looks, what adjective should I use.... - how about 'moribund'. The first drive was good - it is something those of us who have been begging for them not to go 30 yards down field every other play, were glad to see. Then, with the lead, they mysteriously went away from the run and were back at their third and long scenario, over and over. Their offense just has no rhythm. No sense of purpose. I watch other teams' offense and there is a flow to what they do. Gilbride seems to look down on the play card and say, 'hey, let's try THIS play..' It feels like that, at least.
And what is Hakeem Nick's problem? He just seems uninterested or something. After Hillis scored a touchdown and he came off the field all excited, the camera caught Nicks and Cruz sitting on the bench looking like the team was down 42-7. They almost looked bored. Something is just not right with Eli and his receivers. Maybe the losing and bad play are just getting to them.
But, at least the Giants won. Unfortunately the Giants don't have many more Minnesota's left on their schedule. After watching the game last night, I think the best the Giants can do is 5-11. That is being charitable. 3-13 is probably more realistic. I love Coughlin and he has been a great coach for the Giants but I think its time for a change. I can't say I love Coughlin's coordinators (preaching to the choir here). My dog could tell you how much my blood boils every time they show Gilbride on camera. I would love to see what Eli could do under a more modern, up to date offensive system. If finishing 3-13 brings that about, I could live with that.
1 year, 1 month ago on NYG 23 MIN 7
@CommanderShepard @BklynNick I agree on Myers. Amazing that he could be the top receiver for the Raiders last year and be this bad with the Giants. I know - its the Raiders... but STILL! At least he must have caught balls with the Raiders. He seems almost psyched out with the Giants. At this point if they don't go with Donnell I will be very disappointed. Not that I am not already disappointed...
1 year, 1 month ago on CHI 27 NYG 21
To me, this one hurt the most because they were in prime position to win this game. I agree - the lack of a quality tight end is one of the problems. A good tight end catches that last ball even if it is a bit high.
I know this is 'preaching to the choir' but once again this mis-communication between Eli and the receivers - how much of this is because of Gilbride's system? This 'decision tree' of Gilbride's that the receivers and QB have to read at line of scrimmage - seems like with the newer receivers there is a constant problem with this system.
I was really impressed with Jon Beason - and depressed at the same time. It just shows how much the Giants have missed having a quality middle linebacker. To come in after 2 weeks and have probably the best game by a middle linebacker on this team all year - that says a lot about how poor that position has been for the Giants.
@Arthuro Arthuro, what I wondered (trying to give Gilbride a huge benefit of the doubt) is, how often does it happen that a shorter pass is the call but Eli opts out of it and goes downfield? That's something we will probably never know. The Giants are not good at the screens in general. We have all seen that. I just wonder sometimes that given a choice, Eli chooses to go downfield rather than the screeen pass.
Sounds crazy I know, but is that a possibility? In this offense Eli does have options within a given call.
1 year, 1 month ago on PHI 36 NYG 21
Good article and comments as usual.
It almost seems like it goes so against Gilbride's nature to use the short slants, etc that he will use them when forced to, then go right back to the long ball. I wonder how many TV's have been broken in Giants fans' homes by seeing one too many of those incomplete bombs?!
Is there any chance that Eli opts out of the shorter passes and goes with the long ball on his own? Is that a possibility? Is it possible he just isn't as confident in the shorter passes and naturally goes for the longer passes? Probably not, but just wondering.
The thing that bothers me the most is that the Giants are wasting Eli's best years because they didn't take care of business building a solid offensive line. At this point, so many things are breaking down, even if the OL got their act together, something else would break. Sheesh.....
@Paddlepedal - That last thing you said - throwing the bomb when they need a yard to keep moving the chains - wow - absolutely agree. My dog will tell you - I about lose it every time they do that! Sure, it is good to do from time to time to keep the other team off balance. But it has become predictable.
2 years, 10 months ago on Small Ball is Big for Football Success | January
@Motown Blue Seems like they could find a way of getting Scott on the field more. I know he is a rookie but still, get creative and find a way to use him. I know - I am "preaching to the choir" here, as they say.
Andy - I could swear you have been overhearing me screaming at the TV in my house! I couldn't agree more. The long passes have paid big dividends for sure during the season. But I get so aggravated when they go for broke and then end up at 3rd and long for the umpteenth time and end up punting and making the defense come right back out on the field. Gilbride has to see (and I would think Eli would push for it) that the offense works better when there is a rhythm to it, using short passes to move the ball down the field. Watching the best teams - there is always that rhythm to their offense.
A friend of mine, who is not a Giants fan, was watching a game with me a few weeks ago. He doesn't watch the Giants very often and his comment from watching the Giants was, the Giants are 'hurky-jerky', no flow to their play calling. He picked up on that watching one game with me.
The coaching staff must see this when they review the game, right??
Is Fewell going to come around just enough so the Giants don't go after Spagnuolo? I still think they would smart to hire Spags. The Giants do NOT want Spags as the DC for the Eagles!! Maybe they can make their offer more appealing by hiring him with the plan of making him head coach, once Coughlin is gone. I have less trouble with Fewell than I do with Gilbride. Fewell has been handicapped with all the injuries. Gilbride doesn't have that excuse for the most part..
2 years, 10 months ago on Fewell's Adjustments and Rolle's Leadership | January
@Arthuro You would think that if the Giants lose to the Jets on Saturday and the Cowboys beat the Eagles, playing a meaningless game at home next weekend in front of a half-filled stadium would have some effect. There is something to be said for stability and I am thankful we don't have an owner like Dan Snyder. I remember plenty of years when the Giants had no chance of making the playoffs by this point in the year. But it seems evident that for whatever reason, Coughlin can't get the Giants past mediocrity. You would hope the ownership would do something about it.
2 years, 11 months ago on Time for Giants Defense to Man Up | December
Great article, Rich. Good analysis.
I'm trying to imagine what is said in the coaches meetings. Does Coughlin say to Fewell, "Perry, I've got your back, but what is going on out there? This is not working. You either need to fix this or we will all be out of a job". If we see these problems, they MUST see the same problems and then some, right? I just can't figure out how this zone/tampa defense is allowed to continue week after week when it is obviously not working. It must be becoming a joke among rival offensive coordinators. Maybe they feel, with the players available, they have no choice but to go this route. But its not working. The Giants have been known for their defense. This is an embarrassment.
I'm glad you included the Giants management. If they let this coaching staff remain unscathed after the season, then they get what they deserve. And unfortunately we are stuck with a team that is known for underachieving. I would rather have a young, inexperienced team that is expected to go 6-10 and ends up going 8-8, than a 'talented' team that is expected to go 10-6 and goes 8-8. It's embarrassing is what it is.
You would think an empty stadium at the end of home games would be enough to wake up the Giants management. Let's see if it is. If they lose to the Jets (with all Rex's blowhard statements), then play a meaningless game against the Cowboys to a half empty stadium (assuming the Cowboys win this week), will THAT finally be enough?
2 years, 11 months ago on Giant Inconsistencies | December
If the Giants ownership experiences the embarrassment of the Jets (of all teams...) knocking the Giants out of the playoff in MetLife Stadium, will that finally be enough to move the ownership into making changes?
2 years, 11 months ago on WAS 23 NYG 10 | December
@the mayor Mayor - that last statement about the stadium is something no one has brought up but I think is a good point. I have thought this for awhile - Eli is definitely a better warm-weather QB. He grew up in New Orleans - HELLO!!! Doesn't mean he can't have a good game in cold weather (Green Bay) but he is at his best in warmer conditions. The Giants have to have just about the WORST home field 'advantage' of any team in the NFL right now. Don't you think??
Even though we seem to be "preaching to the choir" about this subject on this blog, I could not agree more, Andy. No matter what happens the rest of the way, this coaching staff keeps showing itself as inept. We can only hope the empty stadium at the end of the game will finally convince Mara and Tisch that a change has to take place.
And I don't see much chance of the Giants winning the last 2 games. Maybe one of them. But like you say, Andy - even if they make the playoffs, the Giants need a coaching change. And the sad thing is, if the Giants somehow make the playoffs it will be status quo on the coaches. Even if they don't make the playoffs I'm not convince the ownership will make a coaching change. I have little confidence at this point that the Giants' ownership will make the right decisions. And that is the most depressing part of all....
Great summary. Was I the only one who gave up hope after Dez Bryant scored to make it a 12 point advantage with 5 minutes left? I freely admit I thought that was the game.
Eli played an amazing game for sure. And JPP, wow. But like Glenn said, the defense was just embarrassing. They have GOT to get more pressure on the QB. Problem is, they don't trust the secondary (for good reason) so they rarely rush the QB with more than 3 or 4 players. Too bad, when the Giants have probably one of their best set of players on the offensive side of the ball, the defense is such a mess. Like has also been said, I fear that making the playoffs will save Fewell's job. Both coordinators bring this team down. Those horrible play calls by Gilbride in the red zone could have easily cost the Giants the game.
But today, I am thankful for a win in Dallas!
2 years, 11 months ago on Giants 37 Cowboys 34 | December
@Peter S. Furman Very good, even if it is ruining my breakfast. I think your last paragraph sums it up well. There is an obvious 'coaching tree' produced by Parcells, and then by Belichick. I don't see anything sprouting from the Coughlin tree. The thing is, I have no confidence that the Giants will hire better the next time they get a chance to bring in a new head coach. Sheesh, now I'm REALLY depressed! Arghhhh........ Great comments Peter. Seriously, much appreciated.
2 years, 11 months ago on Invitation to Ralph | January
@Peter S. Furman Makes sense. Too much sense. So until Coughlin goes.... I've been very supportive of Coughlin over the years, but his selection of assistants seems to be his achilles heel.
@Peter S. Furman@Manny In the big picture, this is really discouraging. So my question is, if the Bills had the worst defense in the NFL against the run and the Bills defense was more or less a sieve, why did the Giants hire Fewell in the first place? That's the depressing part to me. For the most part, I think the Giants do a good job finding talent in the draft, but their coach hiring decisions.... Is this all on Coughlin? How much input does Reese and Mara have in coach hirings?
With all that said, it sounds like as long as Fewell is there, it doesn't matter who Reese brings in for players - the defensive system is deeply flawed. Or at least it isn't Giants Football as we have known the Giants defense in its best days.
@the mayor@RussWellen I agree - it appears that this offensive line configuration is the best one yet. Time will (if they leave that combo in) if that was mainly because of the line, Bradshaw's return or a mediocre rush defense by the Packers. But I'm hoping they leave that combination in for one more week and see how they do.
Also, on Baas, maybe he was the best available free agent center in the off season, but in general, free agent signings seem to be a weakness of Reese.
2 years, 11 months ago on 38-35 in '07 does not equal 38-35 in '11 | December
@the mayor@dbs50 Mayor, you can cheer for all us Giants fans on this site who can't go to the game. You're our rep! :)
2 years, 11 months ago on Packers 38 Giants 35 | December
@Paddlepedal@ultimatenyg@DavidCastro I heard on ESPN New York tonight, in an interview with Eli Manning, that he changed the call (originally a pass) at the line of scrimmage after seeing the defense, and audibled to that running play to Ware.
@Paddlepedal@Virginia Blue Absolutely agree. Passing is the Giants' strength but shorten up the passes and move the chains. Then the long passes will be even more effective.
@the mayor I agree on Baas if yesterday was any indication. That turned out to be a bad signing.
Not the day for this, but this is another example why they need to take offensive linemen and linebackers higher in the draft and develop these players as solid starters that will be around for several years. This patchwork approach just isn't working, long term.
@dbs50 We actually have a good example from the Giants schedule this year. They played a hard fought game against the 49ers and we all called that a "good" loss - something to build on. The then Giants went out the following weekend and laid an egg against Philadelphia on their home field. Let's hope the '07 example turns out to be a better example than this year's example.
Great article. Definitely agree on the 3-man front. IF the Giants can take this same effort into Dallas, they should have a good chance. I feel the same about the coordinators. The Giants have the talent - but they are rarely used to best effect.
One thing yesterday that was driving me nuts - Gilbride (I assume) kept calling for these long passes on first down which kept them in 2nd and long, then 3rd and long over and over. And this is with running game working. Sure, it works once in a while, but not when you do it consistently.
The loss of Kenny Phillips could be really tough. As for the offensive line, I wish they would leave those same five guys in there next week!
Depressing, but great article. This team obviously needs a major overhaul in coaching. I just don't have much confidence that Mara et al. will pick the right coach. I'd love to see what these players would do with the right coaches. Unfortunately it appears they are going to waste the best years of Eli.
2 years, 11 months ago on Fewell's Delusion | November