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@SusanSobon for fucks sake lady. people are living longer than they were 70yrs ago. its fucking fact. read a damn medical book or 9, stop spewing your idiocy or stop wasting air.
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@SusanSobon @melissahebbard oh for fucks sake lady, i already told you. its b/c of the rampant use of Abx's, the fact people largely do not die from infections anymore, and Abx's do not kill every bug, some survive due to mutations. these bugs then multiply and all their kids are also stronger against said Abx. how can you have such strong opinions on such issues when its painfully clear you know absolutely nothing about medicine or science in general? seriously? do you not realize you know nothing about medicine, science and the healthcare field?
@SusanSobon @AJ2 @jfred proven safe in the fact that hundreds of millions have gotten these vaccines and the numbers of adverse reactions remains miniscule. again, its all about the odds.
@SusanSobon @jfred @galaxiou @AJ2 i simply say, again, that nothing is 100%. vaccines simply improve your odds vs that/those diseases. its that simple. life is quite a bit about increasing the odds in your favor as nothing is 100%. duh.
@KristenTop @SusanSobon @DaveHoule true, however, over time those memory t-cells do decline w/o repeat activation. thus after 60yrs, shingles can flare up if you've only gotten the chickenpox vaccine, which is why there is a shingles vaccine recommened at a later age...believe its around 50.
@SusanSobon @DaveHoule @ecady i'd recommend keeping your child home while you are breast feeding them, yes. i'm done w/your craziness. you simply have no idea what you are talking about. get your MD, LPN, APN, PA or RN degree and come back to me. until then i'd suggest you leave it to the professionals. you'll live longer than if you take your own misinformed advice.
@SusanSobon @DaveHoule LOL that has NOTHING to do w/MDR bugs. MDR bugs are b/c of the rampant use of Abx's. such drugs are prolific in hospitals b/c there are sick people everywhere, very sick people and Abx's are also everywhere. thus whatever isn't killed becomes stronger. b/c soap actually doesn't do much, its more of the mechanics of washing that does the work. fyi: we are instructed to wash our hands for the same length we are to 'rub' the alcohol over our hands.
@SusanSobon you mean forgo scrubbing w/betadine and simply use alcohols? first off thats a horrible analogy...going from simply touching another patient, to a dr actually placing his hands inside your body. just a bit of difference there, ya think. secondly, seeing as how gloves are used, and most surgeons i know, always double glove...it wouldn't be in the top 10 of things i'd be worrying about if it was me on the table. nice try though.
@SusanSobon @DaveHoule oh please lady. you simply cannot be this dense. yes people are liviing longer. talk to your grandparents--how long did people live in their day? there weren't many 80yr olds 70yrs ago. 100yrs ago 60 was old. 30yrs ago a heart attack was pretty much fatal. people are living longer, simply look at the rise and prevalance of nursing homes in the last decade. they are living past the point where they can take care of themselves. i mean honestly, stop spewing nonsense or stop wasting air. i mean seriously. jesus christ....
@SusanSobon @DaveHoule @ecady verified that you got it from your nephew or just that you had contracted pertussis? big difference. for starters: i'd recommend everyone getting their vaccinations so that newborns are afforded approprioate herd immunity. that will decrease the odds of said newborns from getting those diseases.
@SusanSobon @DaveHoule LOL. cancer rates are going up b/c people are living longer. its that simple. if you live long enough you will get cancer. its that simple. when old age was 50, 60...cancer wasn't around much. now that its 75,80,85...yes, of course cancer rates are going up. not exactly rocket science. its basic biology.
@SusanSobon @DaveHoule @jfred wrong. sabin vaccine hasn't been used in many, many years.
@SusanSobon @DaveHoule sanitizing lotion? i know of no such thing. i know of sanitizing alcohols which are everywhere. yes they kill all germs, however, your hands are quickly re-colonized by your natural flora very quickly. 'supergerms'? such as? they are used b/c they work in preventing the spread of germs. you try seeing 35 patients in 1hr, 40% of whom will bitch about having had to 'wait forever'. and excuse me lady, but doctors and nurses are anything but lazy. you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
@SusanSobon vaccines are safe. simply look at the overall numbers. how many years have kids/people been getting vaccines? decades of evidence of millions getting these vaccines and nothing statistical relevant on the negative side has come out. decades of vaccines, hundreds of millions of people have got these vaccines....and yet no rash of negative consequences. hmmmm...
@SusanSobon @DaveHoule @jfred the vaccine, salk cannot cause polio as its not a live virus. the sabin vaccine, the one we used to use back in the day, could. however, the sabin vaccine also conferred greater immunity and for longer. polio was on the decline b/c if you get it and survive you are then immune to it and a lot of people were getting it before the vaccine.
@SusanSobon wrong. the US was very sanitary in the 40's-60's yet polio was still quite prominent. however, after the vaccine was introduced the incidence rates plummeted. every country uses the salk vaccine. unless you count aborigines and tribes in the amazon who have no contact w/the world. yes, you can die from polio and die very easily unless you get an iron lung
@SusanSobon @ecady @DaveHoule first off i'd love to hear the evidence you have that your great nephew gave it to you. if it the last time you got vaccinated vs pertussis was outside the booster range i'd recommend you get your boosters. annoying at best? its not uncommon for infants to die from pertussis, which is just slightly worse than 'annoying'. there is absolutely no evidence that vaccines cause autism. none. zip. zilch. nada.
@jfred @DaveHoule yes b/c pretty much nothing is 100%. the odds are greatly in your favor of not getting a disease you have been vaccinated against. its called efficacy studies. vaccines work. that is fact. talk to your grandparents about the diseases running around when they were kids. don't hear much about any of those diseases anymore...b/c of vaccines. polio was rampant here in the US less than 70yrs ago.
@SusanSobon @DaveHoule you can't be serious? vaccines do work. for proof simply look at the prevelance and incidence of all the disease we have vaccines for. be sure to note the prevalance and incidence before and shortly after the respective vaccine was introduced. don't hear much about polio anymore do you? measles--nothing. r ubella-same. german measles--nada. for every single disease that we have a vaccine for, their prevlance and incidence dropped dramatically after their vaccine was introduced. the efficacy of vaccines is indisputable. its fact.
@KatheRay @galaxiou KatheRay: BUSTED. here is what you posted earlier, "KatheRay He contracted polio from the vaccine." and now you say it was the MMR vaccine? you cannot get polio from the MMR vaccine. You are full of it. go sell your crazy some place else.