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@Lost Ones hipsters don't go to basketball games. in fact they hate it
2 months, 1 week ago on Saturday Morning Cartoons: Moms
@Julius F Wrek @KD35Russ0 I'm not saying Reggie shouldn't play at all. So, no. Reggie can bring the ball up and play the 12 minutes + a few more that Durant is out. But Lamb being completely out of the rotation is terrible
4 months, 1 week ago on Mavs snap their Thunder duck, smoking OKC 109-86
@PJthe3 bka ... @KD35Russ0 That's just not a good enough excuse for me. If Durant is facilitating we can play Fisher at the pseudo 1. Ultimately though this is more about Reggie getting all the minutes and Lamb getting none.
On another note, while speaking of backup 1's, imagine if we would have kept Eric Bledsoe. Holy shit!
@Julius F Wrek @KD35Russ0 Uhhh, Durant?
@PJthe3 bka ... @KD35Russ0 I think Reggie is gone this summer.
@PJthe3 bka ... @KD35Russ0 Totally agree. I also don't buy the Reggie is Russ' backup stuff. Durant is our backup PG. Reggie is playing off the ball a lot of the time he's in and usually for the best!
I don't understand why Reggie's leash is so much longer than Lambs. He's been equally as bad shooting the basketball if not worse than Lamb and plays much lazier defense.
@Durants Shimmy Rangers have never won the World Series
4 months, 3 weeks ago on Thunder lock down the Bobcats, 116-99
116 w/o Thabo and Perk on a top 5 D. Strange
I'd go with Lamb for confidence reasons. Gonna need that guy come playoff time
4 months, 3 weeks ago on Thabo Sefolosha (calf) out Sunday against Bobcats
@Yeah... that's right It took you that long? Most of us realized about 4 years ago
4 months, 3 weeks ago on Cavaliers vs. Thunder: Pregame Primer
Andre just airballed a FT by about 2 feet....ugh
5 months ago on Trade Deadline Primer: Will the Thunder make a move?
@L0rv @KD35Russ0 Gotcha. What are the conditions on that pick? Any idea?
Does that Sixers 2nd rounder have protection on it? I am seeing top 55 some places, other places I can't even see that the pick was traded. What deal did this come from (Harden deal via somewhere else?)
@KD4theWin Doesn't seem like Abrines has the lateral quicks to ever project to be a very good defender.
5 months, 1 week ago on Thunder interested in signing Rudy Fernandez?
@DanielLawler Lamb is better for this team. Oladipo needs the ball. He's like Harden in that way.
5 months, 1 week ago on Kevin Durant on winning MVP: ‘It would mean a lot’
@Eastbrook His .493 true shooting would really solve our supposed outside shooting issues
@El Prez @Mr. OBoy @Old Man Game We don't need a top 15 center. That's evident right now. I'm confident he won't be a stiff like Perkins
@El Prez The Plumlees are 3 and 5 years older than Steven and have way more BBall experience. Kind of silly to compare them to Steven right now. We drafted him as a long term project. It's amazing that he's contributing on this team at 20 years old
@Dominator @Collisonismyspiritguide Actually I think since Martin's exception is only 6.5 we wouldn't be able to use it in this situation because Turner makes more than that. From Larry Coon's trade exception FAQ "A rule of thumb is that a trade exception can only be used to acquire a player making up to the amount of the exception plus $100,000."
5 months, 2 weeks ago on Rumor: Thunder ‘expressed interest’ in Evan Turner
I love Andre Roberson
7 months, 1 week ago on Thunder coast in Memphis, 116-100
I don't want to crap on Thabo too much after one game, or one bad stretch to start the season, but are we resigning this guy? Are we going to be able to? Do we even want to? If no, can we deal him somewhere? Can Roberson learn to shoot the three and play a Thabo-like role? I think yes. Can't we spread those minutes between Roberson, Jackson, Perry and Lamb. Let's develop these guys. Thabo isn't helping us win a championship.
8 months, 1 week ago on Clippers eject the Thunder, 111-103
@OKC035 @Jooseppi I've seen him make that little floater a few times now. It's pretty sweet. Really great touch on it. Not many guys have that shot.
I've never missed Daniel Orton so much
@Sustainable Parameters @KD35Russ0 cheap has NOTHING to do with what I said. I'm talking about playing the young (and cheap also) guys that we have. Thabeet and Gomes and Fish do nothing for our development
8 months, 1 week ago on Thunder vs. Clippers: Pregame Primer
If we're going to pledge sustained success and we are going to say we are going to do so by developing our young talent how do you play Fisher and Gomes over Perry in that second half. I don't care about the loss at all. It's the 7th game. But if we're going to constantly preach "process" how do the rotations that happened tonight happen. Brooks was horrible. I just don't get it. 7th game of the season, Serge gets ejected, who cares! Play Perry, see what he can do. Let Lamb force some offense with that heinous group you had on the floor...see what he can do. See if he can carry that second unit, hit some shots, create some things. I'm livid. Don't tell me about process and development if we're not going to practice what we preach
@kiwi_thunder @Turfright @Sustainable Parameters Simmons' point is that you can't simply move on from it. It needs to be remembered and talked about. And as annoying as it is, I agree with him. It is going to go down as one of the biggest What Ifs in nba history
8 months, 2 weeks ago on Wizards vs. Thunder: Pregame Primer
@The Great Wall Of Adams @Kong Lambchop I don't know. What addition would you like to see to this team that wouldn't disrupt the growth of the young guys. I'd be more inclined to say that Thabo is going to go.
8 months, 2 weeks ago on The Side Part: Week Two – Welcome back
@shiki @KD35Russ0 Right, it's actually that fact that I think makes the 2nd Harden year and Lamb this year comparable. Harden still wasn't playing those full minutes, wasn't asked to do too much, just fit in and developed his game. Lamb is in a similar position with Jackson our true 6th man
@Durienne @OBoy @KD35Russ0 Right. It's like Moneyball. You can't replace Harden (Giambi in the movie). But you can conglomerate guys to get close. Like I say above. Maybe Lamb can fill the Harden scoring role, great! KD has proven he can be the second ball handler and distribute the way Harden used to, awesome! Harden's D was always questionable, maybe Jackson and Lamb together become a nice combo on the wing on D, super! We're in good shape
@Durienne @KD35Russ0 I think you still want Harden. I think it's still an obvious choice. But, from a team construction standpoint Lamb doesn't have to be Harden. If he can score like Harden, KD has taken on that Harden role of second ball handler, Ibaka is better, Adams can contribute. I think our team is still very good. Not sure if our ceiling is as high, but it's close
Does anyone else sit around and look at the per 36 numbers for lamb and 2nd year harden and feel at least a little better? I think J lamb can keep this up. Not saying I wouldn't rather have Harden, that's obvious, but I'm personally feeling much better after these first few games with Lamb
@Sigmund @International Man of Mystery @okcjim He'll make 125 FT.
8 months, 2 weeks ago on Thursday Bolts – 11.7.13
@ReverseApacheMaster Ya. Kanter did the same thing two years ago. Ineligible at Kentucky then went 3rd to Utah.
1 year, 8 months ago on Saturday Morning Cartoons: Thunder Trax
@Sigmund Ya he had no pedigree of winning
Another Raptors loss...And with the 4th pick, the 2013 NBA Champion Oklahoma City Thunder select...
@anonymous12345 @SoonerSpens @f5alcon @diddoff I like to use this site...at the bottom are all the picks traded for the draft. Ours isn't up there yet so it's a little out of date.
1 year, 8 months ago on Friday Bolts – 11.9.12
@anonymous12345 @SoonerSpens @f5alcon @diddoff It's protected for the next 3 years I think
@Jooseppi @Old Man Game We should have brought in Jeff Foote for a look. He was on that Cornell team that made the Sweet 16. Legit 7 footer, has put on some weight and broke in with the Hornete a little bit last year
1 year, 9 months ago on Bulls 94, Thunder 89: Five thoughts
@DennisBerry @MisterJohnsonOKC @elginthunder Haha, interesting. I was being sarcastic and saying Lazar
@MisterJohnsonOKC @elginthunder Ya Harden sucks. Hayward>Harden
@Keith00 @kennygee90 @OBoy Jones III @justin_mia Absolutely. My feeling is moving Perk this year and getting cheap help for 3-4 years is worth it. And yes, it might hurt our chances this year, but you are right, put it on Harden and Ibaka's shoulders to play a great series before you put it on Perkins
1 year, 9 months ago on Tuesday Bolts - 10.23.12
@Keith00 @ou_sas That Orlando team is a mess. I just don't see them being out of the lottery for many years
@jdstorm @Keith00 @ou_sas I also don't know that they thought they would make the playoffs. They won what? 32 games that year. It was before the CP3 era. They really just had Blake. They finished with the 8th worst record, so they were very willing to give up a top 10 pick. A top 10 pick would be huge for us
@Keith00 @ou_sas Right, that was addressed. Maybe it's a protected pick. Still, even if it's top 7 protected this year, would you not take the chance. We are losing Perk and Maynor anyway. Why not get a real asset out of them
@kennygee90 @OBoy Jones III @justin_mia So then the Thunder have no chance after this year when they amnesty Perk? The point is we make this move and give ourselves a great chance for the next 3-4 years and still have a shot this year
Interesting, and too bad. Because that is a pretty strong precedent of dumping a horrible contract and having to include a top pick. And if I remember it was only Mo Williams in return. Which I think Perk on a decent contract and Maynor is pretty good return considering the Davis trade
@ou_sas Actually wait, I thought of this because my precedent was Baron Davis. Clips traded him and a top pick to just get rid of him. And then the Cavs amnestied him. I thought that the contract had to be signed in the old CBA. Or did the Cavs make that trade before the lockout., I don't remember
@justin_mia @kennygee90 Right, Perk being a good rebounder is just not true. I think that Cole is probably a better rebounder. Granted he's also not even half the post defender. Dwight just doesn't scare me though as a pure make a move on you and score in the post.
@ou_sas Right. Shoot. Forgot about that. Darn. I wonder if we could just keep him on the bench this year and trade his expiring contract for nothing next year.
Here is something I have been thinking of...
The key to signing Harden and staying at a workable payroll and everybody being happy and so on and so forth is making sure we have the cheap talent around our core four so that we have nice depth.
To me signing Harden means:
1. We are amnestying Perk
2. We are losing Maynor
3. We really need to find some cheap young talent
The good news is we got some of that talent with PJ3. I don't think we can expect to keep getting that talent at the bottom of the first round though. What do you guys think about doing something like this (if possible)...
Send Perk and Maynor to Orlando for Hedo and Orlando's 2013 #1 pick (this may have to be top 3 protected or something).
Here's the reasoning. Perk is a usable piece for Orlando. They just lost their starting C if you hadn't heard. Honestly, as much as I like to give Perk crap, he's a usable player on a pretty good contract for a big man. The problem for us is the tax line and we just can't keep that contract, but that doesn't make it a bad contract. We're losing Maynor anyway...so he's a really nice piece to include in this trade. I mean it would be great if we didn't have to include him, but if he puts it over the top, how can we not do it. Zach Lowe actually addressed the possibility of trading Maynor on his Grantland column today essentially saying it's possible.
So essentially this trade leaves us without Perk and Maynor this year. We dealt with the Maynor loss last year. I love Maynor, but he's replaceable. Reggie Jackson has a year of seasoning and got a full training camp in this year. Harden can play some PG. We'll be fine. The other issue is losing Perk and relying on our current centers. Could be a problem, but I'd like to believe we can make it work. It also allows us to keep both Liggins and Orton on the team which I like.
Then, with Hedo, we just amnesty him. This actually saves us a little money. Perk's remaining money owed is a little more than Hedo. This really works because Hedo is on a horrible contract but can't be amnestied by Orlando because they used their amnesty on Gilbert Arenas. Finally in the future we are getting a top draft pick, which could result in a cheap big man for the next 3-4 years.
So maybe we concede a little this year. I still think we can beat the Western Conf. (yes, even the Lakers) without Perk this year. And we really don't need perk against whoever (probably Miami) in the finals. And it puts us in great position for the next 3-4 years in which Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka and Harden are all signed.
@CP2 @ou_sas I think it will be really interesting to see how Williams does this year with some actual NBA talent around him. Remember not to long ago people would argue for him over CP3. I think his size and ability to score still puts him ahead of Irving, and he could easily end up a top 3 guy. I see big things coming for him this season
1 year, 9 months ago on Saturday Morning Cartoons: Russ
@DirkDiggles I've seen him play a lot. He's a good athlete, but not an amazing athlete and will NEVER have a chance at playing the 3 in the NBA. He's a PF only
2 years, 1 month ago on OKC likes Andrew Nicholson in the draft?
Kobe with only 11 today folks. Has played 1 more game than Durant and 37 more points. One big game tomorrow and Durant takes the scoring title lead.
2 years, 3 months ago on Saturday Afternoon Cartoons: Thunder your butts off everybody
@yehoshuagardner Being a Yankees fan I really like the "Core Four" nickname. I think it applies here too
2 years, 4 months ago on Thunder Upton: OKC digs out of a hole to beat Phoenix, 115-104
@Old Man Game His offers would come after next year though...He has this year and next left on his contract. So assuming he comes back ok, we probably can't keep him. Lost Ones below though says we can't trade injured players, which may be right
2 years, 4 months ago on OKC tries to sleepwalk to a win, but loses in Atlanta 97-90
We really need a backup PG. Since we probably aren't going to be able to keep Maynor anyway (unfortunate I know) couldn't we trade him now for someone like Dragic who is becoming a RFA and probably going to be too expensive for Houston next year.
@justin_mia ya, it is unbelievable! I've been saying it for a while now. With it looking like we will have to amnesty him anyway to keep Harden and Ibaka, I'm a big advocate for trading him (probably back to Boston).
@kdub Not only Doc, but Thibodeau too who is a defensive genius! Perk is a good post defender who isn't a great rebounder and is a COMPLETE LIABILITY on offense. I'm on the trade machine now trying to figure out how we can turn him and other parts into ray allen and a backup pg
@Old Man Game Also, getting him touches to keep him happy is NOT a defense. I know you didn't say this, but some people will. Getting a big man thats a hustle player and primarily a defensive guy is fine, but Perk is such a liability its just not worth it. For instance in a game like tonight, he eats up 7 possessions. Scores 2 points. He's not that good on the defensive end of the court to warrant us giving away that many possessions with such little output.
@Old Man Game Not saying perk is demanding the ball, but he looks to shoot every time, which is ridiculous. He took another 17 footer tonight. That is just being an idiot in my opinion. How can he ever think that is a good shot to take. That certainly isn't being called from the bench
I don't know how we can continue to defend perk on here. So what he's had some better rebounding games lately...he's proven that he's not a double digit rebounder. He's good in the post on D, but he not only isn't just a non-factor on offense, he's a huge negative. He turns the ball over consistently and seems to think he actually deserves the touches. He shouldn't touch the ball! I'm pretty fed up with it honestly. I'd be thrilled to send Perk back to Boston for Ray Allen and just roll with Nazr and Cole this year.
I'd love Allen...what do you think about something like this...
We decide that we want Ibaka and Harden and that means that we can't keep Perk. I personally think Thabo is key for us in the playoffs and future. I know a lot of us give him crap on here, but that contract is great and he's shown that he can take a lesser role and thrive. So here is what I'd propose...we send Nazr and a pick to the Celts (probably our late 1st rounder) for Allen with the wink wink deal that after this season we will send Perkins back the Celtics way (they want him back and love him, and his contract is still pretty good compared to other centers) and we take a pick back, maybe the Clippers pick that we gave up in the original Perk deal.
So in the end we end up getting to play out the year with Perk and Allen. Win a championship. Then instead of amnestying Perk we send him back to the Celts and in the process improve our 1st round draft position by a few slots. The Celts love getting Perk back, they begin the rebuilding process, still have a ton of cap room for this summer when the rest of their contracts coming off the books. They get to rebuild around Rondo and Perk (best friends) have the cap room, and still have two first round picks (probably something like 15 and 28-30).
2 years, 4 months ago on DT Mailbag: Jesus Shuttlesworth to OKC?
Bayless tweeted hating on Russel again. So sick of it. Looked it up and Russ and Jkidd are only PG's since 2000 with 20+ pts and 7+ ORB in a game and Kidd's team lost. Bayless needs to give Russ some credit at some point
2 years, 4 months ago on Cold-blooded Durant 3-pointer highlights Thunder win in Philly
@Skip Bayless is lame Of course. I'm just not sure we have the minutes for him to make a major impact. I know that Cook has been in a slump lately, but he's still a top notch shooter (not as good as Ray, but close) and honestly I've been so impressed with how hard he plays on the defensive end. He rebounds well and while Harden did a great job on Kobe last game, I thought Cook looked really solid too.
2 years, 4 months ago on Why Russell doesn’t dunk and other notes from All-Star Friday
Assuming Rondo isn't completely bs'ing, what are the possible trades involving perk?
I could see Allen and Jermaine O'neal for Perk: Don't really like this, I love Allen but I don't see where the minutes would come between him Harden Thabo.
Maybe KG for Perk: Gives the Celts perk back on a pretty good contract for a few years to start rebuilding. We get a Defensive floor general back. Not sure if I would do this either. Kind of like our chances as is.
Such a huge difference between tonight and even last year. In the past against the Lakers I always felt good when we played hard hung in there and if we happened to win it was like "oh cool, sweet win." Tonight not only did I expect to win, we just looked pretty dominant the entire night like there was no way we were losing to that Lakers team. Feels good
2 years, 4 months ago on OKC locks down on the Lakers, 100-85
Collison and the screen video mix getting some love today on barstoolsports.com...
2 years, 5 months ago on Thursday Bolts - 2.23.12
Perk getting any touches other than offensive boards in the half court is just dumb. If he's Mr. Winner he shouldn't care about touching the ball, and he's so bad when he gets it. It has to stop
2 years, 5 months ago on The Thunder survive a wild one against the Warriors, 119-116
@LPCes99 Me too! I'm from upstate NY so this will be my first game live too. So excited
2 years, 6 months ago on Thunder at Wizards: Pregame Primer
@DSMok1 Last years totals add up to 129 per game. Its cuz guys miss games and what not so the above stats aren't for each player playing a full slate of games this year.
2 years, 7 months ago on Setting the Bar: Player-by-player capsules
32. Harden will shoot 40 percent from 3. "He hit just 30 percent from deep last season..."
Pretty sure he was 35-36 percent last year right?
2 years, 7 months ago on DT Season Preview: 35 statements made with extreme confidence
@Hermit@[censored] Start: RW, Harden, Durant
6 minutes 1q: Harden out Thabo in--RW, Thabo, Durant
3 minutes1q: RW and Durant out, Maynor and Harden in--Maynor, Harden, Thabo
9 minutes 2q: Harden, Thabo out, Cook Durant in-- Maynor Cook Durant
7:30 2q: Maynor out, RW in-- RW Cook Durant
4 minutes 2q: Cook out, Harden in--RW, Harden, Durant.
Same in second half. Thats 36 for Durant. 33 for RW. 32 for Harden. 18 for Thabo. 15 for Maynor. 10 for Cook.
If you want/need to give KD a little more run you can play him at PF for a tiny portion of each half. Otherwise thats pretty much the minutes we expect out of these guys with a workable rotation
2 years, 7 months ago on Should James Harden start?
@bigturd@GeoLogger Didn't know that it couldn't be used on a traded player. Thought it was just for any deal prior to this CBA. Interesting, thanks
2 years, 7 months ago on Thunder releases statement cutting ties with Nate Robinson
From KD's facebook: "Found out I'm blind as a bat and need glasses..."
Our man couldn't even see and was leading the league in scoring.
2 years, 7 months ago on Friday Bolts - 12.9.11
@GeoLogger Potentially could save it for someone we trade for...maybe in the case we make a bad trade (not likely)...or in the case we make a trade where we have to take a bad contract back and then could just amnesty that bad contract.
@[censored] The All Star option is open for Russ I don't think. It's two all star STARTS. So he would have to make All Pro again to get the 30% which is pretty risky if he waits for it. I think he'll take the guaranteed money now.
2 years, 7 months ago on Thunder to play the Magic in OKC on Christmas
I'd love to take a shot on Oden. We could keep his minutes down hopefully helping him stay healthy. Maybe we move Nate's contract and something else (Aldrich project) to take a shot on Oden.
2 years, 7 months ago on A Thunder free agency primer
So ridiculous. Go away Celts
2 years, 7 months ago on Report: Boston offered Rondo and Green for Perk and Westbrook