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@ReverseApacheMaster Ya. Kanter did the same thing two years ago. Ineligible at Kentucky then went 3rd to Utah.
Another Raptors loss...And with the 4th pick, the 2013 NBA Champion Oklahoma City Thunder select...
@anonymous12345 @SoonerSpens @f5alcon @diddoff I like to use this site...at the bottom are all the picks traded for the draft. Ours isn't up there yet so it's a little out of date.
nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft
@anonymous12345 @SoonerSpens @f5alcon @diddoff It's protected for the next 3 years I think
@Jooseppi @Old Man Game We should have brought in Jeff Foote for a look. He was on that Cornell team that made the Sweet 16. Legit 7 footer, has put on some weight and broke in with the Hornete a little bit last year
@DennisBerry @MisterJohnsonOKC @elginthunder Haha, interesting. I was being sarcastic and saying Lazar
@MisterJohnsonOKC @elginthunder Ya Harden sucks. Hayward>Harden
@Keith00 @kennygee90 @OBoy Jones III @justin_mia Absolutely. My feeling is moving Perk this year and getting cheap help for 3-4 years is worth it. And yes, it might hurt our chances this year, but you are right, put it on Harden and Ibaka's shoulders to play a great series before you put it on Perkins
@Keith00 @ou_sas That Orlando team is a mess. I just don't see them being out of the lottery for many years
@jdstorm @Keith00 @ou_sas I also don't know that they thought they would make the playoffs. They won what? 32 games that year. It was before the CP3 era. They really just had Blake. They finished with the 8th worst record, so they were very willing to give up a top 10 pick. A top 10 pick would be huge for us
@Keith00 @ou_sas Right, that was addressed. Maybe it's a protected pick. Still, even if it's top 7 protected this year, would you not take the chance. We are losing Perk and Maynor anyway. Why not get a real asset out of them
@kennygee90 @OBoy Jones III @justin_mia So then the Thunder have no chance after this year when they amnesty Perk? The point is we make this move and give ourselves a great chance for the next 3-4 years and still have a shot this year
Interesting, and too bad. Because that is a pretty strong precedent of dumping a horrible contract and having to include a top pick. And if I remember it was only Mo Williams in return. Which I think Perk on a decent contract and Maynor is pretty good return considering the Davis trade
@ou_sas Actually wait, I thought of this because my precedent was Baron Davis. Clips traded him and a top pick to just get rid of him. And then the Cavs amnestied him. I thought that the contract had to be signed in the old CBA. Or did the Cavs make that trade before the lockout., I don't remember
@justin_mia @kennygee90 Right, Perk being a good rebounder is just not true. I think that Cole is probably a better rebounder. Granted he's also not even half the post defender. Dwight just doesn't scare me though as a pure make a move on you and score in the post.
@ou_sas Right. Shoot. Forgot about that. Darn. I wonder if we could just keep him on the bench this year and trade his expiring contract for nothing next year.
Here is something I have been thinking of...
The key to signing Harden and staying at a workable payroll and everybody being happy and so on and so forth is making sure we have the cheap talent around our core four so that we have nice depth.
To me signing Harden means:
1. We are amnestying Perk
2. We are losing Maynor
3. We really need to find some cheap young talent
The good news is we got some of that talent with PJ3. I don't think we can expect to keep getting that talent at the bottom of the first round though. What do you guys think about doing something like this (if possible)...
Send Perk and Maynor to Orlando for Hedo and Orlando's 2013 #1 pick (this may have to be top 3 protected or something).
Here's the reasoning. Perk is a usable piece for Orlando. They just lost their starting C if you hadn't heard. Honestly, as much as I like to give Perk crap, he's a usable player on a pretty good contract for a big man. The problem for us is the tax line and we just can't keep that contract, but that doesn't make it a bad contract. We're losing Maynor anyway...so he's a really nice piece to include in this trade. I mean it would be great if we didn't have to include him, but if he puts it over the top, how can we not do it. Zach Lowe actually addressed the possibility of trading Maynor on his Grantland column today essentially saying it's possible.
So essentially this trade leaves us without Perk and Maynor this year. We dealt with the Maynor loss last year. I love Maynor, but he's replaceable. Reggie Jackson has a year of seasoning and got a full training camp in this year. Harden can play some PG. We'll be fine. The other issue is losing Perk and relying on our current centers. Could be a problem, but I'd like to believe we can make it work. It also allows us to keep both Liggins and Orton on the team which I like.
Then, with Hedo, we just amnesty him. This actually saves us a little money. Perk's remaining money owed is a little more than Hedo. This really works because Hedo is on a horrible contract but can't be amnestied by Orlando because they used their amnesty on Gilbert Arenas. Finally in the future we are getting a top draft pick, which could result in a cheap big man for the next 3-4 years.
So maybe we concede a little this year. I still think we can beat the Western Conf. (yes, even the Lakers) without Perk this year. And we really don't need perk against whoever (probably Miami) in the finals. And it puts us in great position for the next 3-4 years in which Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka and Harden are all signed.
@CP2 @ou_sas I think it will be really interesting to see how Williams does this year with some actual NBA talent around him. Remember not to long ago people would argue for him over CP3. I think his size and ability to score still puts him ahead of Irving, and he could easily end up a top 3 guy. I see big things coming for him this season
@DirkDiggles I've seen him play a lot. He's a good athlete, but not an amazing athlete and will NEVER have a chance at playing the 3 in the NBA. He's a PF only