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Thank you James, and I apologize for the two names I used.
1 day, 17 hours ago on Jimmer Fredette weathers storm of trade rumors in Sacramento
@mmiklas32 Jimmer's already traded. The question is how. I bet he'll get packaged with JT or MT, as those are the two crappy contracts we are still stuck with. Unless Gay is a stop gap, and we are going to repackage him elsewhere.
1 day, 19 hours ago on Jimmer Fredette weathers storm of trade rumors in Sacramento
@ChrisDoster, I like Jimmer, and I went to BYU, and I would like Jimmer to get chances to succeed, but man you are acting like a douchebag.
No one on the Kings has done anything to turn the title of thug. Do any of them have problems with the law? Nope. As far as I'm concerned, people with tatoos are perfectly cool (I've often thought of getting one), and it no way makes them a thug. You're being close minded and a bigot.
Jimmer has the right idea, he's going to work to improve and know that sooner or later he'll get his chance. @ChrisDoster, why can't you have the same attitude. Your worse than his brother, who Jimmer to the woodshed for complaining about Smarts rotations. I'm sure Jimmer would tell you to take a chill pill if you could. The one thing I'm sure your right about is some players probably had a a hard time with Jimmermania when all of that was going on. Its over, that's water on the bridge and everyone has moved. on.
Jimmer has shortcomings to his game he's worked to improve, such as his D, his ability to penetrate, and finish at the rim. He's a great 3pt shooter. If he can improve his D more, his passing and handle, then he'll have a larger role in the league. I'd love to see him get an extended look as a combo or point guard now that GV is traded. Kids need confidence, and Jimmer lived on his confidence in college. I don't think Smarts rotations helped him with confidence. Malone has at least been upfront about rotation and timing sucking.
2 days, 9 hours ago on Jimmer Fredette weathers storm of trade rumors in Sacramento
@Fbizzay No but you said Jimmer was on the outs if Thorton could play like that consistently. We both agree he can't. Ergo Jimmer isn't on the outs (I think it'll go back and forth unless one truly starts to break out, but it'll be tough for Jimmer to break out if he only gets 12 min a game when he plays).
1 week, 1 day ago on CK Press Box Report: Golden State Warriors 115, Sacramento Kings 113
@Fbizzay If Thornton could play like that consistently he'd be an all-store. The problem with Thornton is he is inconsistent. He's streaky. We know this. So don't expect Thornton to make up for missed shots with good D, or assists, or simply stretching the floor. When his shot falls, he'll play.
I find it funny that people use the word athelticism, and what they really mean is jumping ability. Ben McLemore can jump yes. Can he sprint that fast, not according the the combine. How's his agility, terrrible according the combine. Hows his strength? I can bench more than him.
So in short, he's a great leaper and good shooter. But he doesn't change directions and isn't strong, which means he'll have trouble with defense, which he has, and that's part of why he has been so inefficient in his shooting, he doesn't have change directions efficiently and stay on balance. He might improve those aspects to his athleticism through work. But dunks, no matter how big or beautiful, are still just 2 points.
1 week, 1 day ago on Sunday Musings: Pete D’Alessandro begins writing his Sacramento Kings story
@Dima2k @ChrisDoster @zeke22 @Cowbb @Dima2k @ChrisDoster @zeke22 @Cowbb No Chris is being a self righteous Mormon thinking that Jimmer is a better person just because he's Mormon. I'm a Mormon too, but I have no idea what the players are like as people. As far as I can tell, Isaiah is a loving father, Thornton has brothers and mother who loves him, so lets not claim to know how the quality of anybody's character without knowing them. Heck Jimmer might pay tithing on net rather than gross OMG!! (I would if I was in his tax bracket). Jimmer hasn't been a great situation for his career. But its up to him to work his butt off until he gets his chance, which he will. Unlike other college stars carrying the label of bust, Jimmer's main shortcoming is on defense, (and was on ball handling), but he's worked a lot to improve those things. If he keeps improving, he might even be a starter somewhere, especially with his ability to space the floor and knock down 3's.
But lets not claim racism is driving stuff. I think at this point its about the future the kings. The kings future is better trading both Jimmer and Thorton, and Thortons value is a lot higher with him playing (especially coming off the bench after his terrible start this year). Jimmer's value is actually pretty high right now relative to his guaranteed contract, so there's a bigger risk it would go down if didn't play. I wouldn't be surprised to see both Jimmer and Thornton on different squads within the year.
But Chris, quit be so dang self-righteous. I bet many of the kings players are "good" people, and I doubt Jimmer ain't seeing the floor because people are persecuting him.
3 weeks, 5 days ago on Marcus Thornton breaks out of early season slump
@Dima2k @ChrisDoster @zeke22 @Cowbb
Trade/baiting someone else perhaps? IT for instance?
2 months ago on Poll: What was the biggest surprise of Sacramento Kings’ first preseason game?
@silverdog @mmarcum He can clearly hit some 3's and be an offensive spark. Most teams will pay 2-3 million for that. Is he a starter, not yet on most teams. He might become one or an elite 6th man, if he can improve finishing at the rim, ball handling, catching and shooting and passing.
May take him 2-3 years to get there, and either improve play on defense or the right matchup on D.
But the front office didn't want to try to develop in past years, and Keith Smart was focused on trying to get another coaching gig (i.e. short term wins). The new front office will focus on development, but with their picks. Thus the argument to free Jimmer, but they want to package him with Hayes or Salmons, which no one else wants.
2 months ago on Preseason Game 2 Preview: Sacramento Kings at Los Angeles Lakers
@tpistoia @Cowbb Jimmer does fine creating, provided he has a good screen to get things going. Many times in a game he would call for screens at the point, and no one would move.
He shoots better off the dribble than catching and shooting, so its not given that he would work well the Vasquez. In fact for Malone's stated offense (which is scoring in transition after defensive stops), Jimmer is near ideal because he can hit the pull up 3 pt and spread the floor, and is pretty good about feeding the ball ahead to others. But a quicker first step would make he deadly, rather than just effective.
He just really needs to improve on defense. But its tough for point guard to play defense for the kings when both Cousins and Thompson are either too lazy or too short to close down the lane and block shots when the guard penetrates.
2 months ago on Watch: Jimmer Fredette is in a good place and ready to move forward with the Sacramento Kings
@SSSDMC15 @Mad Dam I think you're right. Good coaches find the system that works for the tools they have. Bad coaches try implement their system, forcing square pegs into round holes.
3 months, 2 weeks ago on What to do about Jimmer Fredette?
@Mad Dam @SSSDMC15 The difference is a statistical one. Basically Coach smart pulled jimmer whenver he missed a couple. This means his average got biased downwards. Its basically comparing the mean of geometric distribution, (first time to failure) rather than a binomial (how many successes do you get with a fixed number of attempts). A short leash always reduces shooting percentage by a couple of percentage points because the player gets yanked on a miss.
@Kings fan I don't know. There are plenty of people who keep working and improving that work themselves into the starting lineup. You are right though. Jimmer has to get lock-down tough on D. He's a pretty strong dude, but its kinda weird. On offense he seems to like creating contact (to try to get the line for a 3 pt play), but but on D he acts pretty shy a lot of the time. I don't buy the athleticism stuff, because his combine shows pretty good agility, and he was coming off a strained calf at the time. But he has to embrace D if wants to be starter and WORK his butt off. That's hard for some to do. Many people can get comfortable making 2-4 million a year and coming off the bench for spot minutes. So Jimmer faces a tough choice. Embrace being a 6th man and make sure he is more consistent, or work like hell to be serviceable defender and improve his handle. The best players in the NBA work to improve every year in the off-season. We'll see if Jimmer has improved this year.
@Cowbb @leyvaflava Many teams would pick up his contract at the current price. I think the kings have intentionally been tried to ship him with Hayes or Salmons which makes things a lot more difficult. Each of those players is probably overpaid by 3-5 million, which means you are really asking if Jimmer is worth 6-8 milion a year, and he isn't, at least not yet.