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@shoot_the_goalie @WisconsinRangerfan12 Well as Wisconsin pointed out, Torts didn't just drag this up out of nowhere while talking about dogs or something. Interviewer asked about it, Torts answered in usual Torts honesty. Sure he could have given a more PC answer, the Canucks org probably would want him to too , but that's not Torts by that point I think.
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@shoot_the_goalie @JustThatPigeon But that is the point. Especially since you made it sound like Redden getting sent to the AHL was ONLY caused by his supposed beef with Torts.
Torts' style of coaching involves coaching through conflict. You will read almost any article that will tell you that his time with Tampa wasn't rainbows and butterflies, it was full of conflict. If I remember correctly, he had a sign on the door of the video room telling people with thin skin not to bother coming in. His captain publicly challenged him in video sessions etc. If you challenge him, he will challenge you and expect you to rise up to the challenge. Can't challenge him and continue cruddy play. Redden, if I remember correctly, showed no signs of getting better. That was why he got less ice time. That was why he went to the A.
And Brad Richards went through the same process this season. I think some say Richards got too long of a stick even. No guarantees he would have ended up Whale-d (or well, Wolfpack-ed) but that's just how Torts works.
I'm not saying he's perfect in this way, I do believe he does hold some grudges but at the same time - I don't think he does it without merit. Nor does he bench a player for challenging him. His "my way or the highway" is more on style of play, not that the player had the guts to say something back to him. Look at Zucc and Stralman, both players that Torts admitted to questioning at the beginning, but he's ended up welcoming them back into the team AND playing them regularly. Why? Because their play convinced him that the deserved ice time. You can say that his style of play wasn't right or whatever, but that's - as you say - not the point, of this discussion.
@shoot_the_goalie Yeah, cause Redden was playing so well up in NY so well too.
Still think the Hagelin comments are blown out of proportion. Was it ill timed? Maybe, but beat reporters closer to the team (if i remember correctly) have said that it was more affectionate than harsh.
If anything is a sign of a divide between him and locker room, it's the fact that none of his players wished him good luck via twitter in Vancouver. Not even the guys who later thanked him in interviews (Hank, McDonagh, Stepan to name a few) and not even the new guys who probably don't have too bad of an opinion of him (Brassard, Moore).