Sergio Santos
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@areayewhy @Sergio Santos @DXL Would be nice as next year's draft will be loaded but Dallas are expect to attack the market with the "Bank of Cuban".
@DXL PJ3 and Lamb were barely used and yet they are comparing them to Paul George and Durant. What's next? Hasheem the Dream has Hakeem the Dream upside?
Yes, Brooks is not responsible for a 5-21 shooting from Durant. He's responsible though for hopping on Derek Fisher's dick and giving him 20-30 minutes.
Overlooking PJ3 and Lamb may have cost OKC some rookie development and trade leverage. The 10-12 draft pick of this year will be one of Alex Len or Mason Plumlee likely and next year's Dallas pick isn't supposed to be that good.
Yeah, OKC's future is not bad at all, but this year could have set up the future much better. Kevin Martin is likely gone (is he going to say for 5M?), so who knows who will carry the 2nd team.
As for Brooks, he didn't prove he was capable to adjust. It's one thing to have Westbrook, Durant, Harden and Ibaka at your disposal and really on their talents alone, but having lost Harden and Westbrook this playoffs, OKC just seemed a team without ideas.
One last thing. Maybe it's just me reading too much into KD's words, but if the only thing he learnt from being without Westbrook was that the team missed him, then I must say I am disappointed. Westbrook more and more seems to be the leader of OKC and KD seems to be fine with that. I wish he had more Kobe-like heart, but he seems to be ok with how it is.
Curious to see what happens next year...
- "The Grizzlies truly are ridiculously tough. That’s one mean bunch."
Almost everybody is looking tough now, especially with this lacklustre OKC side. Grizzlies, Nuggets, Clippers....whichever OKC gets in the second round has a great chance of knocking OKC out.
Where's the joy? The grit? The will to overcome last season's woes? Something must be very wrong in the lockerroom for such inconsistent play to be consistently happening.
- "There’s just something about Westbrook and the Grizzlies that makes him lose his mind."
There's just something about Westbrook period. It's against the Grizzlies, the Nuggets, against Thabo and against the media. You simply cannot rely on him to keep his cool on or off the court. As good as he is as a player and an athlete, he simply shoots too much and prevents the ball from going to arguably the best shooter in the game, Kevin Durant.
And one thing that annoys me deeply is that he can get away with all this, because nobody in the organization - whether it is KD or Brooks - can tell him to hush.
Would I have preferred to stay with Harden and get an assist-first-and-second point guard? Yes, especially considering what one could get for Westbrook. Imagine Jrue Holiday + James Harden right now...oh the possibilities.
- Derek Fisher
Oh boy, what was the rationale behind bringing him? Oh, right, the "ring" experience. And how will a 38 year-old way-past-his-prime, no D, point guard help? Exactly, he won't. He won't help on the count and considering his lack of professionalism at Dallas, he won't help at that much of the court either. Having him at shooting guard instead of Lamb, Liggins or even Martin (with Ronnie Brewer going at 3) it is puzzling to say the least. Way to go Brooks.
- Toronto pick
I hope that 10th or 11th pick proves to be quite good and gives Presti ammunition to put a better team under a better coach (SvG anybody?). Brooks did well to take the team here, but it will take some more to take this team over the top. Kevin Martin is unlikely to stay (will he really go from 12M to 5M?), Lamb doesn't seem nowhere near ready to replace him as he has not been given minutes, PJ3 seems a non-factor. Oh, and there's still the "Perk is useless and we should amnesty him or get someone to eat his minutes". Maybe the TOR pick? Maybe...if Presti plays it well.
This team needs a meaner edge.....and a coach that ditches Derek Fisher, puts Westbrook in place when needed and actually nurtures the supposedly talented rookies...
The Derek Fisher/J-Lamb thing is really annoying.
How does the organization intends to move forward when it is giving a 38 year-old, way-past-his-prime, no-D point guard an average of 15 minutes?
Where's Jeremy Lamb? Where's PJ3? Where's Ronnie Brewer, the defensive body to throw at the Heat?
OKC are not a rebuilding team, but the Harden trade was also done with the future in mind.There's absolutely no reason why Jeremy Lamb - whether to be used later as a trade asset OR to be part of the actual rotation - shouldn't get more minutes. What's the worst that could have happened? The Thunder don't win as many games, but the rookies actually develop their game ? Sorry but I just don't see how keeping Lamb and Jones in the D-League forever will help both the players and the team in the long-haul.
And, important question, what's the plan for next season? Ibaka's extension will kick in thus affecting any potential move OKC may have in mind. Unless Kevin Martin won't mind getting the MLE (which would represent a 7M decrease in his paycheck, there's no way we'll be able to afford him.
IF we lose Martin, who can we get? The TOR draft pick maybe or...Jeremy Lamb had he been nurtured to play the next season. Of course ideally, we'd get the pick to get a center that can take minutes from Perkins and add something to the team. Considering the current state of affairs, not sure that'll happen.
I know, getting on a mini-rant here, but would like to see OKC getting into a better position to win a ring. Whether now or next season.
@Cold-Blooded @Sergio @Sergio @KD4theWin Hmmm...considering the red flags regarding his knees and motor and considering the fact he hasn't been used a lot.....I doubt it
@Cold-Blooded @Sergio @KD4theWin Because he's been very important?
@KD4theWin Doesn't mean the trade is all but set.
Lamb + TOR pick seem quite a bit...would prefer Maynor + TOR pick.
A guy that could be useful would be DeJuan Blair. Dallas pick? Dallas pick + PJ3?
@PNT Or 3rd option: he's willing to roll the dice and see whether K-Mart can take OKC to a title and invest in Lamb next season WHILE trusting Perkins...
@OBoy @D-MC @PNT http://www.hoopsworld.com/oklahoma-city-thunder-team-salary/Considering the current picture, it doesn't seem like we can offer much to K-Mart. And quite honestly, we shouldn't. We should invest in Lamb and PJ3 as they are talented youngsters on a rookie-scale contract.
@D-MC @OBoy @PNT Money that we won't have once Ibaka's extension kicks in? Of course he wants to stay here. He's playing for a contender! But it doesn't mean he's going to play for the mid-level extension now is he?
@PNT Actually it is quite simple...K-Mart won't resign so better trade him now (risky) in a super deal....or let him go at the end of the season and invest in Lamb there. I didn't say to play Lamb now, now have I?
As for Reggie, we can play for Maynor now without us losing much so...
@OBoy Utah would be less likely to take Perkins granted...in their case we'd have to move someone to make salaries work....K-Mart?
KG , Milsap/Jefferson or Gortat could all be acquired via a package of Perkins + Maynor + TOR pick (maybe PJ3 in the mix as well if necessary)Makes sense for teams involved...time to focus on Jeremy Lamb and Reggie. No point in stucking in rebuild mode as the Thunder are and will be contenders for the near future.Other teams can go /continue their rebuild mode with Maynor's expiring and a good first-round pick.
Do it Presti....
I don't think we should keep Perkins....his time is due. The "leadership" role now belongs to Durant (and Westbrook to a certain extent). Furthermore, with Ibaka's extension kicking in next season, no way his 8M are justified.
Still, if we shed BOTH Kevin Martin's and Perkins' salaries, we have a total of $62M which is still over the cap (http://www.hoopsworld.com/oklahoma-city-thunder-team-salary/)
However, we own Jeremy Lamb, Toronto pick and Eric Maynor.
Reggie Jackson might as well be our future backup PG so Maynor's 3.3M can in theory put us under the cap (we won't get a lot in return but then again...that's not the main concern).
Lamb can replace K-Mart, but I am concerned of his lack of minutes so far. Had he been given as many minutes as Harrison Barnes in GSW he'd reach the post-season in much better position to help the team NOW and in the future.
The Toronto pick can be a SG/SF or a C depending on how good it is and whoever is available.
How I see it? If there's a good enough C available (Andre Drummond-like), take him and put him on the team; after all, wouldn't you rather see Drummond instead of Perkins on your team? Then the available money can be thrown at an experienced SG/SF.
If we pick another position, then trade it (with either Lamb/Jones) for an upgrade at SG/SF and thrown the money at an experienced C ( JJ Hickson level for instance)?Options are available, but as far as I see, Lamb should play more to give OKC more flexibility.
@Keith00 @PerkPunt @f5alcon I see, thanks for the info.
Curious to see what Presti will do. He has K-Mart, Lamb, Perkins and the TOR pick to think about....
@PerkPunt @Keith00 @f5alcon Just to be sure...
The tax level for the 2012-13 season has been set at $70.307 million. According to http://www.hoopsworld.com/oklahoma-city-thunder-team-salary/, next year the Thunder (not counting with K-Mart) have a payroll of $64M. If Perkin's salary is shed, we gain another 8M. K-Mart can be signed and traded, we can use the TOR pick for a promising SG or C and sign a good, experienced FA. No?
That's not good...