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@Flip13 That's Oregon, isn't it?
3 months ago on The BCS Title Game: Five Teams, Two Slots, One Test Of Blind Resumes
The SEC champ should be #1 even if Ohio State and Florida State won out? That's a joke, right?
masterdebater33WithMalice : Whether or not T-Mac praticted hard or not is irrelevant. What IS relevant is the number of players who have won two scoring titles and have made the All-NBA Team as much as he has who aren't in the Hall of Fame. That would be ZERO. Gotta disagree with you on Billups...just because he was the second most efficient doesn't make him the second best...remember, besides Nash, he also played against Kidd, Payton, Paul, and D-Wil. You guys are overselling the Pistons. Oh, and, Malice, with regard to your dumb crack that good articles generate comments and bad ones don't, that's ridiculous. I wrote an article saying the Lakers need to sign Allen Iverson...took me fifteen minutes, and it has more comments than the articles that took me four days to write.
2 years, 6 months ago on The NBA Hall of Fame: who gets in from today's players in the Eastern Conference? | LA Lakers
brumbyggWithMalice : It would indicate that no one disagrees with me; unlike this pulled-out-of-the-ass piece where people clearly do. And why is THIS site preferable to Bleacher Report? More people read Bleacher Report; the process is more exclusive. This blog is just a couple of guys pulling stuff out of their gut; BR is the 4th most read sports blog in the world. You mentioned Paul on both sides of the argument BTW...so you're welcome. And Ray Allen is NOT in a league with Garnett, Duncan and Nowitzki. Period
2 years, 6 months ago on NBA: Basketball Hall of Fame Locks and Possibilities: The Western Conference | NBA
WithMalice My position on Gasol as stated above was "lean HOF"...it's like Gasol's Virginia in the 2008 presidential election, and Duncan's Massachusetts (bet that metaphor went over your head). I'm 22. How many reads has this article gotten anyway? My Current NBA Players' HOF chances article on B/R has gotten over 200 reads, and not a single criticism yet, because I BASE MY ARTICLES ON FACTS and don't pull HOF predictions out of my gut like you do. I notice you guys are too ashamed to post the number of reads this has gotten...probably because it's very low
WithMalice Apparently you're not either...you seemed to forget that Carter carried the 2000 Olympic team. And I didn't say Pau shouldn't be HOF...I said you shouldn't put him in a class with Jason Kidd and five MVPs. Those guys have multiple First Team All-NBA nods. Pau has none, and one Second Team nod.
Good God. How can you NOT have Vince Carter on this list? He is 35th All-Time in Career Scoring, and only one player has more points than he, could be in the Hall and ain't (and we all know Reggie Miller will get in in the next year or two). And if you're willing to give international credit to Paul, why not to Carter? He was the leading scorer on a USA Olympic team that went undefeated (yeah, they almost lost to Lithuania, but they didn't). With regard to Camby and World Peace, I'd wait to give them the nod until we see if Mourning or Mutombo get in. Also disagree with you about Manu and Peja getting in...you can't let them in while keeping Carter out. And I'm a Lakers fan, but I think we can't say that Pau Gasol is in a league with Kidd, Nash, Nowitzki, and Duncan. He's lean HOF, not lock HOF. Once again, too much shooting from the hip, not enough stats or precedent.
masterdebater33 Thank you for agreeing w/me that these ppl shoot from the hip instead of looking at stats! I totally agree with you that the three players you mentioned are HOFers, btw.
BonKCollegeWolf : You're telling me to get real? I'm not the one who pulls HoF predictions out of my keister, like you do. Why the hell should Manu Ginobili be in above Vince Carter? He's never had to carry a team the way Carter has, nor has he been one of the top scorers in the league the way that Carter has. Hill and Carter are very similar players...had good seasons early on, then not so much later on. Until you can actually back up your argument with stats, your argument carries no weight with me
2 years, 6 months ago on Call For The Hall: The Eastern Conference | Basketball
Um, my post is about Eastern AND Western Conference players. It's funny how it takes five Hoops Manifesto guys to write an article one Bleacher Report guy could write
WithMalice : Billups? If you look at the "key guys in championships" stat, most of those guys have a) more rings than Chauncey, and/or b) more 2nd Team All-NBAs than Chauncey
CollegeWolf Read this: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/817755-nba-hof-watch-current-and-recently-retired-players-scale-of-0-to-10
TPGBlog : Cliff Hagan statswise is below many of the people on this list who are "bubble" Hall of Famers. Oh, and for the record, people, I occasionally write for Bleacher Report, so look for my recap on who should be Hall of Fame later today
WithMalice That's not true. There are certain numbers that everyone, or almost everyone, who has them is in the Hall. Every 1st or 2nd Team All-NBA Center who is eligible is in the Hall (coughAmarecough). Every MVP is in the Hall. Every person with five or more First Team All-NBA appearances is in the Hall. Every scoring champ except Zaslofsky and Bernard King is in the Hall (LeBron for the last three, T-Mac for the last one).
A few comments:
1. The NBA has been a game of big men for the preponderance of its history...Wilt or Russell or Kareem should be #2, Magic should be no higher than #4
2. The Big O should be higher than #10. He was the most well-rounded player in the history of the NBA. Still the only player in the top 10 career in points and assists, either career or per game. Put him ahead of Kobe Bryant
3. Wilt at #6? He should be higher than Larry Bird...Larry Bird never led the league in scoring, scored 100 points, or grabbed 50 boards. He also has only one more ring than Wilt, and Wilt didn't have McHale, Parish, and Ainge babying him. Also, Bird has fewer MVPs
4. Interesting that Tim Duncan is deemed the greatest power forward in the history of the game
All in all, I think this panel cares too much about rings and too little about stats
2 years, 6 months ago on Top 10 NBA Players of All-Time | Basketball
I'm going to have to disagree with a few things here:
4. Interesting that Tim Duncan is deemed the greatest power forward in the history
I have zero respect for these panel’s choices, Ezra in particular (He frankly shames being a Laker contributor). Ray Allen a lock while LeBron James gets a blackball? Are you nuts? Ray Allen never won an MVP or All-Star Game MVP, has a lower scoring average, and never even made All-NBA First or Second Team! Also, “Kobe-LeBron” is a false dichotomy…there are loads of players with much, much, much less stellar careers than Kobe who are in the Hall. I also disagree with the choice of Chauncey Billups being in…he’s hardly one of the best point guards of his generation (again, no First Team All-NBA; he’s never led the league in assists). Some on this panel are apparently willing to ignore any stats besides rings, which clearly the hall doesn’t do (Malone, Barkley, Ewing, anyone?). It looks like the silly no-ring argument cost Howard the nod, which is wrong as well…he has four first team All-NBA selections, several rebounding crowns and three DPOYs, which is more than can be said of the majority of se. Also “stellar, but not stellar enough”…considering people like Cliff Hagan are in the Hall, the bar is not as high as they would have you believe
Why the heck should Ben and Rasheed Wallace be voted in above Dwight Howard? This list puts far too much stock in winning rings. If LeBron plays five more seasons of his caliber, he'll be in the Hall regardless of whether or not he wins a ring. Every MVP is in the Hall, and LeBron has two MVPs. Likewise, if Dwight Howard continues to be a dominant center, rings won't matter. Amare has a considerably more chance than "simply put...no". Likewise, Sheed has probably a one-in-four chance. This article is woefully deficient in stats other than how many rings a person has.