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@Orangeone@Patrick Henry@vickee@WolfieUSANow you might could make this argument.
Article IV, section IV:
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a
Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against
Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when
the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence"
That wouldn't be keeping with original intent. But the Constitution is dead anyway, eh? I guess an "invasion" could mean whatever people in black robes says it means.
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@Orangeone@Patrick Henry@vickee@WolfieUSANo, no you haven't. Here's what you cited from article 1, section 8.
"To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization..."
Here is the current process for naturalization which the feds have control over.
Just like a classic progressive/ decepticon though. When you can't debate the merits of your argument. Just call names... real classy! I thought you said you were a Constitutional conservative.
@Orangeone @Patrick Henry @vickee @WolfieUSA I know this is upsetting to you. But it is what it is, it's not in the Constitution, it just isn't. If you don't like it, there's a process to change it. See article 5.
@Orangeone@Patrick Henry@vickee@WolfieUSA"To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization..." You just made my point for me, thank you. The federal govt. only has authority over the naturalization process. Any power not enumerated in Article 1, section 8, defers to the tenth amendment.
@Orangeone @Patrick Henry @vickee @WolfieUSA Reagan also left us with a lot of debt. He was by far and away the best president I've seen in my lifetime. Agreed with most everything else except for the old adage. "if You didn't vote for so and so, then it was a vote for the other guy" I'm sorry, but that's nonsense. A vote for Romney is a vote for Romney. A vote for Dear Leader is a vote for Maobama. A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Gary Johnson. If you love freedom and liberty, you should vote accordingly. Please quote me from the Constitution, the article and section that gives the executive branch the authority to police our border. Show me anywhere in the Constitution that gives Leviathan control over our borders.
@Orangeone @Patrick Henry @vickee @WolfieUSA I guess it depends on what you call successful. He was for gun control, than he was against it. For abortion, than against it. When he ran against Ted Kennedy for his senate seat. He ran to the LEFT of Kennedy. I didn't think that was possible. MILLIONS in fee hikes, doesn't sound very conservative to me. So I guess it depends on what camera he's in front of. I could go on, but the election is over and Obama won. As far as being a biz owner, so was Bush Jr. Wanna take a guess as to who racked up the most debt in this country until Dear Leader Chairman Maobama came along? The biggest assault to our 4th amendment rights in the history of the country with the patriot act. I'm not a conservative, I'm a CONSTITUTIONAL conservative, big difference!
@Orangeone @Patrick Henry @vickee @WolfieUSA You're certainly entitled to it. But I felt the same way about Romney. And so Nero fiddles as Rome burns.
@Orangeone @Patrick Henry @vickee @WolfieUSA Well I would probably fit that description then. I did vote, but it wasn't for Romney or Obama. Why is it though that when the establishment crowns their candidate, people like me are expected to just leave our principles at our polling precinct door? Why not for a change all of the people that vote for the status quo, come and join with people like me and vote for liberty for a change? I believe in a foreign policy, the same one that George Washington and Thomas Jefferson advocated for. I don't believe in open borders though. RP did make a good point about this in one of the debates though.
It was something I'd never thought about. He said something to the effect of, if you were to build walls on the border. And then put men with guns pointed outward. What's to stop those same men form turning those guns inward? What if things finally got bad enough in America that you decided to flee and you couldn't? What you must understand is that I finally took the red pill.
I remember pulling the lever for Mccain in 2008 and walking out of my polling booth felling like I needed to hurry home and take a shower. I lied to my friends about it when they asked me who I voted for. I would tell them that I voted for Palin, the lesser of 2 evils is still evil. I don't think any of that makes me "nuts"
@Orangeone @vickee @WolfieUSA You really should watch generalizing with your groups there. I was a Paul supporter, and I promise you. There's nothing liberal about me. It would be kind of like me saying that everyone that has the username "Orangeone" is obtuse. Would that be fair to you?
"Apparently he can’t think of a single reason that nullification should be used by states or local governing bodies."
Herein lies the problem, they don't think, or they can't think. They are TOLD what to think instead of doing it for themselves. Some of these talking heads and politicians have probably never had and original thought in their entire lives.
1 year, 3 months ago on There’s Nothing Radical about Nullification
@LindaTucker @Patrick Henry I actually bought one of these Linda. It's much cheaper.
1 year, 4 months ago on Nullification Victories!
He's a troll my friend. A condescending, pompous jerk who used to go by the name of gypsynovus here. I guess he got tired of people ignoring him and changed his username. Pay him no attention!
1 year, 6 months ago on Wyoming to Preserve the Second Amendment? – Tenth Amendment Center Blog
@RedTulie Something else that bears mentioning is that I don't trust ANY govt. There's state and local govts. that are just as corrupt as Leviathan. The difference is that if we start forming smaller confederations, it'll be easier to manage. I ask people this question, which of your elected representatives are more responsive to you. The ones that are hundreds or even thousands of miles away. Or the city/county commissioner or mayor that may possibly live right down the road from you. It's about size and scale folks, we're completely out of scale. This beast has gotten WAY too big!
@RedTulie That's EXACTLY what needs to start happening. I'll be the first one to raise a glass of ale to all of you when it does.
@Jdangiel I know what nullification is and I agree that the states should start asserting their 10th amendment right and start telling the feds to go pound sand. But someone please show me an example of where it's happening. Like I said, the states are like welfare recipients. They're on the dole too, and that's all Uncle Scam has to do is threaten their medicaid or highway funds and they fall on their knees and start begging.
I brought this up a while back because I remember it like it was yesterday. Louisiana was the last state in the union to raise the drinking age to 21 and they weren't going to. Well, the feds stepped in and said that they didn't have to comply. But we're going to withhold your federal highway funds until you do. Guess what the legal drinking age is in LA now!
@dmellon Well I hope you're right, but you don't have to go back very far to see what kind of influence fedzilla has on the states. Obamacare and Arizona's SB 1070 are 2 recent examples.. They will threaten to withhold medicare or highway funds and it'll be over, watch and see!
While I applaud WY for doing this, I can go ahead and tell you what's going to happen if it passes. Our esteemed DOJ will challenge it in federal court and will be struck down. The question after that happens is what do the people and the WY state legislature do then? Someone please remind me what the benefit is to remaining in this American union.
5 years??? If it were up to me, they'd get the DEATH penalty!
Gotta love guys like Dr. Woods and Kevin Gutzman!
1 year, 6 months ago on Happy New Year! Are you with us for a big push th...
Hopefully, the south will rise again!
1 year, 7 months ago on Four and Counting: Another State to Consider Obamacare Nullification
@WilliamSchooler He can't help it Mr. Schooler, he has this "limbic" thing going on inside his brain. Ask him about it if you really want to have a good laugh.
1 year, 7 months ago on Nullification in One Lesson
@WilliamSchooler Very well said Mr. Schooler, I've been saying the exact same thing for a very long time now. I am of the opinion that since the corruption is so widespread among the federal and state governments. We should probably start at the local level and work our way out. Personally, I would like to see smaller confederations, they would be much easier to manage IMHO.
1 year, 8 months ago on Nullification in One Lesson
@StephenSmith1 @Bob_In_Boston I think you're right about Governor Gardisil, he's another NWO stooge. It was a nice thought though. Who knows, if the state legislatures start getting enough blowback from this. It might at least get the conversation started in a few states. The way I have it figured is, if you're going to dream. Might as well dream BIG!!!
1 year, 8 months ago on Nullification Victories!
@StephenSmith1 Yep, Decepticon prime gave us numerous assaults on our liberties. These are the things that I keep trying to point out to people who think that electing a bunch of Republicans will solve all our problems.And then we'll all be able to sit around a campfire at camp david, sing kumbaya and the coke song, spot on Stephen!
@mlk12 I hear you loud and clear, I've experienced all of this too. That's why I've argued here that nullification while being a good remedy will most likely not happen anytime soon. Because the states are in on the scam too. They've been feeding at the federal trough as well and don't want to give up their piece of the pie. I think we've about come to the end of the party. I've done all I can do to try and educate people about what's going on.
But it's not enough, we're not going to have enough time. It's all going to have to crash and burn and then we need to hit the reset button and start all over again. "Forgive them Lord, they know not what they do"
@StephenSmith1 On second thought, after carefully reading the article. It seems that these are citizen generated petitions on the whitehouse.gov website. You can't even sign it without registering which will probably put me on another one leviathans hit lists. Dammit man, you got my hopes up, oh well, hope springs eternal!
@StephenSmith1 Probably the best news I've heard in my lifetime since I happen to live in one of these states... AMF!!!
@LloydThomasSloan @JamesP.Delaney @FL10thAmendment
I'll take it, Madison was a traitor as far as I'm concerned. He showed up to the ratification debates along with Hamilton with a plan that basically would have given us what we have now. A supreme national govt. He wrote in some of his notes that what America needed was a supreme dictator. He eventually came around, but if this is the guy you're holding up on a pedestal, I'll pass for sure!
1 year, 8 months ago on No More Waiting. Nullify Now!
@Michael Boldin Here's a little blurb about it in the New York Slimes. Like I said, this is how it's done with everything. That's why the states are afraid to stand up to Uncle Scam. They don't want to lose their spot at the trough.
You nailed it again Michael, I've been screaming at the top of my lungs at people for years that there is NO federal solution to our problems as a nation. I've been called just about everything imaginable by so called conservatives. The only problem with your solution is that most of the state legislatures are full of statists as well. I keep telling people that the states are just as bad as welfare recipients. They won't stand up to Leviathan and here's why. They're on the dole too, they're afraid to tell Uncle Scam to go pound sand because they're afraid they'll lose their place at the federal teat.
I don't know if you remember this or not, but LA was the last state to raise the drinking age to 21. They weren't going to do it either. Well, big brother stepped in and said okay, you don't want to comply. We'll just withhold your federal highway funds. I probably don't need to tell you what happened after that. The drinking age in LA is 21 just like everywhere else.That's how it works unfortunately, fedzilla has its tentacles in every aspect of our lives now. The good news is that the state legislatures are more manageable than our federal overlords in Mordor on the Potomac river. We've got a lot of work to do folks, it's time to quit sitting on the sidelines. Get up and get busy!
@Rob1911a1 Too bad the Massholes have invaded NH and just about turned it into a liberal wasteland. Isn't that amazing about libtards, they are like locusts. They move into an area and devour everything in sight. And when it's all gone, they move somewhere else and do the same thing.
@LindaTucker You're welcome, anytime!
@Dancingdeer I like to think even smaller than that, there's a county in AZ trying to secede, Pima I think. I want to get back to the lost art of self governance.
@betsy ross @LindaTucker @Michael Boldin Absolutely, I've been doing it for over 6 years now. I have one whole room in my house full because I knew what was going to eventually come. I even make my own colloidal silver!
@LindaTucker The concrete is just a casing, if you take the top off, you'll see the pipe going down inside the casing to the water. My well is a 24 inch bored well. If you look at it, it would seem you can't get to it because the tank sits on top of the lid. All I have to do is turn the power off disconnect the power and take the lid off and I have access to my water. It's shallow enough that I could send a bucket on a rope down of I had to and get water. A drilled well is usually 6 inches and is much deeper. But that pump from that website will get it up to the surface. Where there's a will, there's a way, If I lived closer to you, I would help you get it set up. Get to know your neighbors, we're going to have to start doing things like we did way back. When neighbors helped one another and churches and civic organizations helped people in need before the damn government got in the charity business.
@LindaTucker That's strange, most well pumps run on 240 volts, Take a look at this though.
@LindaTucker Drilled well or bored well?
@LindaTucker Oooh, that's a tough one, I have a water purification system. But it's for personal use, It would be hard to make enough drinking water for those animals. Do some research online though. I am fortunate enough to live on a large lake so I have access to plenty of water. But it would be quite a chore to purify enough to water those animals I would think.
@LindaTucker @Michael Boldin Think smaller, get involved locally. Get to know your neighbors and state representatives. Stock up on food, guns and ammo, it AIN'T over yet, trust me!
@Michael Boldin @LindaTucker Exactly Michael, I'm more interested in downsizing this beast. I think it's time we start re-thinking this whole American union thing. Thomas Jefferson wrote in some of his memoirs that he envisioned confederations of 3000 to 5000 people. I try to get people to think about it like this. Are your elected representatives more responsive to you when they're hundreds or thousands of miles away. Or when they might live in your neighborhood like a city or county commissioner. THIS is what I'm working for, at the state and local level. I don't even bother with my federal representatives anymore. It's a total waste of time IMHO!
Great news, maybe the GOP will finally realize that they can't win without the liberty vote and start making some inroads. I knew this was going to happen, I've been cursed at and maligned for it, but I was right. Better wake up GOP and smell the coffee or you'll go the way of the Whig party.
@West Texan @WilliamSchooler I'm not crying about anything. I'm ready for what's coming, I could care less who wins this election. I don't even contact my federal representatives anymore, I'm working at the state and local level now. You obviously haven't read any of my arguments for not voting for either of these 2 corrupt monopolies or you wouldn't be making such foolish statements. You say you like to deal in facts right? Well here's one that you obviously overlooked in my assessment. We've been voting for the lesser of 2 evils for at least the last 30 years. We're STILL 16 trillion in debt, haven't you gotten the memo? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting a different result. So you just keep voting for the lesser of 2 evils and I promise I won't come back and say I told you so when it all goes down the crapper.
1 year, 8 months ago on A Tenther's Guide to the Elections
@LeighSkinner I think Ben Franklin said it best. " Those who would give up their liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety"
@LeighSkinner Thanks Leigh, I needed that.
"The claims of these organizers of humanity raise another question which I have often asked them and which, so far as I know, they have never answered: If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind?"
@WilliamSchooler Thanks William, that's exactly what I plan on doing. I'm sick to death of people telling me that a vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for Obama. I can easily flip that around to suit me, a vote for anyone but Johnson is a vote for Obama. See how easy that is, we had the modern day equivalent of Jefferson running for the GOP nomination and we blew it. So now Amerika, get ready to reap what you've sown. I remember in 2008 coming out of the poll after pulling the lever for Mccain. I felt like I needed to go home and take a bath, never again I said to myself. I'm just not doing it anymore.Maybe after this whole thing collapses we can start all over again and get it right this time, MAYBE!!!
@West Texan I understand what you're trying to say, but with all due respect. We've been trying this same exercise in futility for at least 30 years and we're still 16 trillion in debt. I'm sick of voting for the lesser of 2 evils or the slightly less crappy of the 2 socialists running. I understand that Johnson can't win, but what if he gets 15% of the vote? Romney will lose yes, but I think that might get the GOP's attention. After the shenanigans they pulled at the convention, that did it for me. Until the GOP starts listening to people like myself in the liberty movement, I'm done with them.
Anybody that thinks just electing a bunch of republicans this cycle and everything will magically get fixed is deluding themselves. We have an illegal usurper in the white house right now. Where's the GOP on this? Maobama has committed untold impeachable offenses. Where's the GOP on those? They won't touch it and I'll tell you why. It's because they're in on it too, this is never going to change unless we break this 2 party monopoly that we have. It's the same 2 sides of the same bad coin. If you're happy with the status quo, then by all means vote for Romney. What I'd actually like to see is Obama win and the GOP retake the senate and keep the house. Then we'll see what the GOP is made of, even right now they could put a stop to all of this nonsense if they wanted to. All bills for raising revenue start in the house. They could defund every bit of it if they were serious about a return to fiscal sanity. But they're not because like I said, they're in on it too!
Good Article Michael, I do the same with people. I don't tell anyone how to vote. I just point out the flaws in these candidates, and I take a lot of incoming for that. This election cycle has been one of the nastiest I've ever seen. There are people losing friends and family members over this election. For me personally, I've given up on my federal legislators. I've decided to do what you are prescribing here, get involved locally and at the state level. These are the folks that can put a stop to all of this madness and keep fedzilla in check IF they want to.
I am of the opinion that it's about time we start re-thinking this whole American union thing. It's gotten way to big and completely out of scale. Under article 1, section 2, we're supposed to have 1 representative for every 30 thousand people. Of course that was written when there were only 13 colonies and about 3 million in population. Now we have 50 colonies and over 310 million in population, If you were to do the math on that, we'd have to have over 10000 representatives in the house of representin. First of all, you'd never be able to fit that many people in there. And second, even if you could, nothing would ever get accomplished which may not be a bad thing now that I think about it.
I've read the writings of some of our founders and I remember reading somewhere that Jefferson had envisioned confederations of no more than 3 to 5 thousand people. For anyone who thinks that's silly, ask yourself this question. Are your elected officials more responsive to you hundreds or even thousands of miles away? Or, would they be more accountable if they lived perhaps in your own neighborhood like say a county or city commissioner? It's all about size and scale folks, we're completely out of scale.
As far as voting for the lesser of 2 evils thing, here's some food for thought. I've heard all of the arguments because I'm voting for Gary Johnson. The most popular being, oh if we can just get this monster slowed down a little until the next cycle. Then we can get a constitutionalist in there, we've been trying this exercise in futility for at least the last 30 years. As much as most folks loved Reagan, even he couldn't get it done, we're still 16 trillion in debt.
I've asked all of my detractors this, why should I continue to go and hold my nose and vote for the lesser of 2 evils? Why is it that I have to join in this herd mentality and pull the lever for someone like Romney? Why is it somehow my fault that if Romney loses it's because of people like me didn't take one for this corrupt team? Why am I supposed to just leave my conscious and my principles at my precinct door and join with you? Why is it that we, people who do vote our conscious and principles for freedom and liberty always have to join you? How about for a change, all of you come and join with us. Because this silly argument that a vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Obama is ridiculous. What if everyone who was going to vote Romney voted for Johnson? So that argument can go both directions IMHO!
@ThePainefulTruth Well, I hate to say this and I'll probably catch some flack for it. But, that's why I don't inject religion into my politics. My faith is something that's very personal to me and I just don't bring it up in political discussions. I think this somehow carried over from the Constitutional purism or bust article. Where a few other posters were giving biblical reasons for not allowing gay marriage. I think that's where this all started at and has spilled over here somewhat.
I successfully made the argument that the feds have no authority under the Constitution to regulate marriage. Does that mean that I'm all for gay marriage. No, I don't agree with it, but the feds have no say so in the matter and shouldn't have a say in it. As abhorrent as I think abortion is, look what happens when the feds get involved with it, Roe v Wade. Do I want men with good morals, ethics and principles representing me as my legislators? Of course I do, but I don't want him or her legislating morality on the rest of us.
That's not his/her job, the job or the proper role of government should be to first and foremost secure my liberty and private property rights. Without those, the rest is meaningless IMHO."You are not to inquire how your trade may be increased, nor how you are to become a great and powerful people, but how your liberties can be secured; for liberty ought to be the direct end of your Government." Patrick Henry- June 4, 1788
I'm out guys, going on vacation today, I'll catch up when I get back!
1 year, 9 months ago on James Madison: putting principle over pragmatism
@findingthetruth Yes, but there is one caveat, and that is this. Never argue with a fool, people might not be able to tell the difference.
@findingthetruth Agreed, I'd just quit feeding the trolls and maybe they'll go away
@ThePainefulTruth @gypsynovus @TaskForce16 LMAO!!!
@gypsynovus @ThePainefulTruth I think someone was asking for solutions earlier. I've got a few, first I think it's time we re-think this whole American union thing. There is NO federal solution to what ails us as a country. It needs to be broken up into smaller more manageable sized pieces. It's all about size and scale, we're completely out of scale.
Think about it this way, from Article 1, section 2. "The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative;" Now keep in mind, this is when there were 13 colonies and somewhere around 3 million in population. Now we have 50 colonies and over 300 million people.
If you were to do the math on that, we'd need over 10000 representatives in the house. You wouldn't be able to fit them all in there to start with. And even if you could, nothing would ever get accomplished. Anyone that thinks we're properly represented by 535 people in Mordor on the Potomac river is delusional. I read somewhere that Jefferson had envisioned confederations of three to five thousand people.
Who do you think is more accountable? The politician that is hundreds or thousands of miles away in a central location. Or one that may live in your own neighborhood.. Think size and scale folks, I don't even call or write my federal representatives anymore. It's a complete waste of time. I decided to start at the local level and work my way up to the state legislature. THESE are the people that have the power to change what is happening to this country if they so desire.
I've already put my theory into practice. I have a very dedicated group of people around me that keeps our county BOC in check. As a result of running deficits and having to get bailed out by the state and ultimately Leviathan. We now have a 10 million dollar surplus. We also now have the second lowest property tax rate in the state. People need to start doing this all across the country.
This is all going to end on misery folks, we're going to have another crash I believe. I also believe it's going to make the one in the thirties pale in comparison. I hope everyone has gotten themselves prepared for what is coming. Hopefully, after it's all said and done, we can hit the reset button and start over again. Maybe this time we'll do it right.
@ThePainefulTruth You've got it right, the short version is that if it isn't enumerated in Article 1, Section 8. It doesn't mean a hill of beans, if politicians say ti does. Then they are lying to you and that's a fact....JACK!!!
@ThePainefulTruth Great guess, I'm a huge Ayn Rand fan. It was Frederic Bastiat- The Law. It's a great read, you can read it online. It's nothing like Atlas Shrugged. If you're a pretty quick reader. You can read The Law in about an hour.
@gypsynovus I hope I am reading you right, it looks like you are trying to say man is inherently evil.Here's a quote I find very relative to what is going on today.
Anyone remember who said that?
Great article Mike, where are guys like James Madison when we need them? Madison was an interesting story to me. He and Hamilton showed up to the ratification debates in Filthydelphia with their own plan. It called for a supreme national government, basically what we have now. He eventually became enamored with a Jeffersonian style form of republican government and did a 180. Guys like Patrick Henry were prophetic in their speeches during the ratification debates. They knew what this beast would ultimately become, it's a shame, it really is!
@gypsynovus @John Englehutt Oh boy, here we go!
1 year, 9 months ago on Constitutional Purism or Bust
@bizrsc1 Look, I'm with you my friend, homosexuality is a sick twisted perversion IMHO. But what you've offered up here isn't from the Constitution. I asked for a direct quote from the Constitution that gave the feds the authority to sanction marriage. You can't, because it doesn't exist. It just isn't there and furthermore, if you're willing to accept oversteps of the Constitution that you agree with. You have to also be willing to accept the ones you don't agree with. If you want the federal govt. to define marriage as being between a man and woman. The Constitution would need to be amended to reflect such.
@bizrsc1 Quote for me then please, the Article and section of the US Constitution that gives the federal government the authority to sanction marriage.
@bizrsc1 I would imagine because there's no mention in the Constitution regarding the sanction of marriage that I'm aware of. Hence, it would be left to the states under the 10th amendment.
I've pretty much been saying the same thing,I'm actually losing friends over it. Because I refuse to get on board with Romney. But I can give sound arguments for not supporting either of these 2 corrupt parties. I actually posted about this on my facebook page, I'll repost it here as well.
Why Romney And Obama Won't Debate Gary Johnson:
I keep hearing that a vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for Obama. I keep hearing that a vote for Johnson will just get us four more years of Obama. Well here's a few questions for my detractors. Why should I have to check my principles and my conscious at my polling precinct door? Instead of people like me who do vote on principles like freedom and liberty having to hold my nose and vote for the slightly less crappy version of the two socialists running. Why don't you all join with us for a change? Why has it always got to be the other way around?
And you can bet the farm that if Romney does lose, we'll get the blame for it. Well I contend that the blame needs to go to the people that DIDN'T vote for freedom. What if everyone who likes the sound of freedom and liberty actually voted that way for a change? Yeah, what if.....
We've been trying this same exercise in futility for the last 100 years or so. Where has it actually gotten us? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting a different result. The only difference between the 2 major parties these days are this. One thinks it can manage and control every aspect of our lives for us because we're too damn dumb to do it for ourselves. The other thinks it can do a better job of managing and controlling our lives. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
SPOT ON! This is also from Washington's farewell address that warns us about foreign entanglements.
"The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop. Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none; or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities."
1 year, 9 months ago on Washington’s 1796 Farewell Address: Did He Waste His Breath?
@ChrisBlec @Michael Boldin Well it's been so long since I've played either, I'm probably not any good at both of them. But I'm all in anyway. I started a Re-Founding Fathers society, I'm not getting very much participation at all. It's kind of depressing actually. Freedom and Liberty take eternal vigilance. It's hard work and although it sounds good to most people. Most of them are too busy doing other things. I've been guilty of it myself so I haven't much room to gripe. But you're right, if lovers of liberty don't start getting engaged and getting some blood on their hands so to speak, we're done!
1 year, 9 months ago on Government Bullies
@Michael Boldin @ChrisBlec I was just going back through the comments here and this this one stuck out to me. It reminded me of something I read a long time ago.
"If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind?"
Frederic Bastiat- The Law
If you get it before me, give me a good synopsis on it, but don't give it all away. This is supposed to be a masterpiece! Marshall De Rosa, Thomas Di Lorenzo contributed. I also heard that Dr. Kevin Gutzman wrote the foreward. These are some of the guys that I really admire within the REAL founders history movement.
1 year, 10 months ago on Government Bullies
@NavyJR There is a book out that discusses this called Rethinking The American Union by Professor Donald Livingston. I'm dying to get it and start reading. Do you have it by any chance?
@NavyJR @Patrick Are you sure about that? The 10th Amendment was ratified on 12-15-1791, the KY/VA resolutions didn't come about until 1798 and 1799.
@NavyJR Yes I would, but just think about it for a minute. It's been so long since we've actually seen or heard a truly free man. We, ( at least I) don't know what one looks or sounds like anymore. People don't know what self governance actually is about. We're told what kind of light bulbs we can have, what kind of toilets, etc.... Does that sound like freedom and liberty to anyone? I think not!
@hawkeye1937 @NavyJR Thank you, I guess you learn something new every day. I always thought that the alien and sedition acts were a result of opposition to John Adams. And that resulted in the KY/VA resolutions.
@hawkeye1937 @NavyJR Maybe someone can refresh my memory. I remember in some of my studies about the 13th being improperly ratified but I can't remember what the exact story behind it was.
@Babblefish No, I have read Liberty and Tyranny, but not Ameritopia. I still listen to Levin, but I got a little upset with him during the primaries. I really didn't like the way he disparaged Ron Paul. I didn't agree with all of Congressman Paul's positions, but I think he was about as close as you can get to a modern day T. Jefferson. He's probably the last of a what I consider a true statesman that was left in the federal leviathan.
@NavyJR Absolutely, I say this all the time to people. They think I'm a libertarian. I say not really, I'm a little [r]epublican, most of those these days are big [R]epublicans. !'m a Jeffersonian, Mason or Patrick Henry style republican. We need to get back to original intent, but it'll never happen with the current structure. It's gotten too big and completely out of scale!
@Babblefish Not trying to nitpick here, but I believe that Ameritopia was written by Mark Levin not Mark Stein.
While I still like Rand Paul, I think Michael is right here. As much as I liked his father, there are some things that he's done that I disagree with. I've been following politics for a long time, so I've given up on finding my political soulmate. At the end of the day, these guys are still politicians running a scam on all of us. We've gotten way out of scale in this country. I think it's time that we start rethinking this whole American union thing.
I've been giving this a lot of thought Michael, thanks for bringing it up. I've always thought that buying gold was way out of my reach because I don't make much money. I worked on an A/C unit for a guy several weeks ago who told me something very disturbing that I had not heard yet. He owns a salvage yard in Vidalia,GA and seemed very knowledgeable about current events. He told me that before the end of the year, paper money would be absolutely worthless. That in order to trade you'd have to have gold or silver, or a card from the government. I really thought the Fed would just print it out of existence, have you heard any such thing?
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As usual, Congressman Paul gets it right. When will people quit listening to TPTB and party hacks picking our presidential candidates?
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"You are not to inquire how your trade may be increased, nor how you are to become a great and powerful people, but how your liberties can be secured; for liberty ought to be the direct end of your government."
June 5, 1788
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Awesome news indeed, this gives me a glimmer of hope. I will be sending this story on to my Representatives at the GA General Assembly.
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