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@OohWeeItsVelvetHoop @Keith00 I don't imagine we would, and I get that it's just a fake trade from a NY fan. But it seems so silly that people would connect Shumpert to OKC. They either don't know Shumpert, don't know OKC, or both. Fake Shumpert to Cleveland would at least make sense as a start. Waiters sucks and doesn't defend, and they don't have anything behind him either.
6 days, 4 hours ago on Player Power Rankings: Secondary weapons
@OohWeeItsVelvetHoop I know it's fun to talk trades, but why do the Thunder want Shumpert again? I'm not even getting into proper value in return, just Shumpert. He's an average sized SG who scores inefficiently and looks like a good defender only next to the train wreck of other NY defenders. I wouldn't take him over Thabo OR Lamb, and he would need to be extended in a year anyway. For other teams I can see how he has value, lots of them are hurting at the SG position. But the Thunder get so little value out of him that he wouldn't even be worth a first rounder.
@ThunderBuddy @rednuht Without looking it up, I would say Reggie Evans, Udonis Haslem, Taj Gibson, don't know, Brandon Bass (he might be starting though now that Garnett left).
Of those players, I would say Gibson is definitely better than Collison. Evans might be depending on your team needs or worse given his defense. Haslem and Bass are probably equal though in different ways.
We probably do overrate Collison a bit, but he's also a really good player in his role (plays great defense and efficient offense). He wouldn't excel as our starting center or PF every night, but as a backup there probably aren't many that do their job much better.
6 days, 8 hours ago on Monday Bolts – 12.2.13
@Dominator I really enjoyed reading that link. I like how NY gets Reggie (the best player in the deal), Collison, AND a first rounder, plus unloading Felton's contract. Pretty obvious no one on that blog has any idea about the Thunder or their players. We definitely need a third string SG more than a backup PG and and PF.
@Sustainable Parameters @Keith00 @Dominator I prefer to believe they are trying to win. If we do dump Thabo for a late pick and get no player in return, I'm willing to change that belief.
3 weeks, 6 days ago on Player Power Rankings: Serging
@Dominator Well, if we don't extend him (or he wants more than we are willing to offer), trading him at least gets some value in return. That said, we can't trade him for nothing. We are trying to win a championship, and we can't just open up a 25 minute hole in the rotation at the deadline.
@El Diego @Keith00 @Zach99 That would be pretty great. And hopefully foreshadowing. At a certain point Brooks is not going to have ANY reasons to keep starting Perk. If Perk can be happy on the bench, Brooks won't have to be the bad guy by starting a better team.
@OLADADAMS @Keith00 @Quetzalcoatl @f5alcon @Lazar The funniest part is that their worst misses (Waiters, Bennett) were both players that nobody else in their right mind would have picked. It's one thing when a "can't miss" prospect flames out. It's another to pick obviously inferior players and be surprised they are obviously inferior.
@Sigmund And yet, he's still higher rated on defense than Perkins! I kid, though it's true.
Adams is a young rookie taking on the most important defensive position on the court. I would have been more surprised if he didn't struggle early. That said, he still has the best advantage out there: being a giant. He makes a lot of plays just by being there with his hands up. Remember Roy Hibbert early in his career? He couldn't play heavy minutes and got blown by because of no athleticism. He's turned into a defensive monster through nothing more than better positioning - and he was older than Adams as a rookie. I'm not too worried, Adams seems like a great kid and certainly seems like he's trying to learn.
@Zach99 I don't really get it, maybe it's just Perk fatigue. You can only invest so much energy in hating Perk. At a certain point you NEED someone else just to distract you.
@Quetzalcoatl @f5alcon @OLADADAMS @Lazar It's actually a little impressive. Theey've landed 2 first overall picks, 4 top five picks overall, and just signed what was once the second best center in the league. And yet... they are still terrible. Whiffing so spectacularly on 3 of 4 high picks (especially Bennett) takes some special talent.
@El Diego @thelaughingwiseman Isn't there some sort of Kiwi-Aussie national rivalry? It might be extra fun to watch Adams and Bogut go at it.
@[corporate shill] Agreed. It's not like Russ is hopeless, but if these are supposed to be week by week rankings, Russ has been pretty bad. He'll get back to his rightful place in time, no need to give him a free pass before he earns it.
@El Diego What are the odds Presti reads this page in the first place?
3 weeks, 6 days ago on Monday Bolts – 11.11.13
@Old Man Game Well, his worst game of the year looked almost exactly like a normal Perkins game. So even if the hype has cooled on Adams as a potentially healthy Andrew Bogut, I'm pretty sure we all still think he's the best center we have.
@The Big Kiwi @El Diego @Sustainable Parameters @Keith00 His value lies in his ability to run the point. He would never do that here, we have better players anytime he's on the court. He's a poor fit because his strengths are superfluous and his weaknesses are precisely where we need help. And that's disregarding the significant cap hurdles we would have to clear just to make a deal.
@El Diego @Perk-Punt I don't think anyone understands here that Turner can't be dumped to OKC, we don't have the space to take on his contract, and he's simply not good enough for us to be giving up more than one young player (the only way to make contracts work).
Turner has only ever been good in the first few games of this season. We don't know if this is a fluke or his new level of play. He's already 25, so the likelihood is actually that this is a fluke. I don't think he's better than Lamb to begin with, so why would we give up young players or picks to play the same position and put us into the tax?
@Sustainable Parameters @El Diego @Keith00 6.6 million. Assuming we add Thabo, there's not a young player we could trade with him that would make the deal work without putting us over the tax. We would have to add two young players, and Turner has no track record to suggest he's good enough to do that.
Turner can't shoot AT ALL, he's a poor fit as the 4th option on our team.
@Bryson @El Diego Unless we can force Perk into the deal, the money would never work out without giving up our young guys.