Keith00
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I'm sure I will change my mind a dozen times between now and the draft, but currently I want Gobert. Say what you will about Brooks, but he HAS developed a number of rookies into quality players even when raw to begin with (Westbrook, Ibaka, Jackson, somewhat Thabeet). Gobert is just crazy big, even by NBA terms. And unlike Thabeet, he's quite athletic. 9'7" standing reach means he can block shots without even jumping (think Roy Hibbert) and can dominate the boards.
He is very raw, but did not put up terrible numbers given his role on the team in Europe. But man, since Len is likely gone and Zeller has T-Rex arms, how do you pass up the chance to develop such a physically gifted person.
@Hasheem Thabinks @Keith00 @ThaboThabeetThunderrr I don't think PF is KD's best position, at least not until his 30s when he starts losing athleticism. He's the best PF for this team specifically simply because of our other personnel. I also think Noel probably ends up at PF (unless he measure out with crazy length), but that would be fine here. Serge is still better than Perkins at C by now, and it would more easily solidify our frontcourt - Serge and Noel starting, Perk and Collison off the bench where we can limit minutes and matchups.
@Hasheem Thabinks @ThaboThabeetThunderrr I don't think that's fair. Noel is an elite rebounder and positional defender. Ibaka was considerably more raw defensively and is a below-average rebounder. He's also a significantly better athlete than those two, which affects his cieling.
@Amnesty Perkins @Keith00 @abizn @PerkPush-ups @GeezerSpeak We don't know enough of the situation to say why those things were done. For all we know Presti forced Brooks to play Green just to keep up his trade value. I like to point to those kinds of situations too, but it's not fair to really call blame with so little information. Further, Brooks-proofing as a concept should tell management that we need a new coach, the end. If management has to completely alter the makeup of a team just so their coach doesn't torpedo things, then the coach should be fired.
Amnestying is just not a sound financial decision. It would be cheaper to fire Brooks and hire a high end coach than it would to pay Perkins not to play.
@Amnesty Perkins @Keith00 @abizn @PerkPush-ups @GeezerSpeak I don't think Brooks is a terrible coach. I think he has certain quirks that harm the team, but overall is a pretty big positive. Perhaps management is hoping he fixes those quirks, but they should attempt to step in themselves before they go about making financial decisions with the assumption their coach will never improve.
@Amnesty Perkins @Keith00 @abizn @PerkPush-ups @GeezerSpeak Look, if Presti came into a meeting with Brooks and said, it's Perkins on the bench or you off the team, Brooks would make the move. There are ways around Brooks' unreasonably loyalty. Amnestying a player because your coach cannot coach just creates more problems. It doesn't solve any of the financial issues (since you still pay the player) and it doesn't stop the coach from making other poor decisions.
If Brooks is the reason we should amnesty Perkins, than you are fighting a symptom instead of the real problem.
@abizn @PerkPush-ups @Amnesty Perkins @GeezerSpeak Amnesty is generally the wrong answer simply because Perkins isn't a distraction off the court. If we are paying him either way, we might as well have him as a backup and frontcourt insurance. The fix is simply that we need a center that can play both ends of the floor passably. If we could get a decent center with upside in the draft, and use Perkins as a backup, everyone wins.
@[censored] @Keith00 @Amnesty Perkins @FF_pickups I think we could have beaten Miami with a better gameplan than last year. During the season, we were overall a better team on point differential (a historic mark actually). Without Westbrook, no chance, certainly, but we needed smarter lineups and matchups regardless.
@PerkPush-ups Are you asking whether we think Perk's play was more significant than Westbrook's injury? No, we would have beaten Memphis with Westbrook regardless of Perk. However, given the fact that we lost by an average of two field goals per game, could we have beaten Memphis with a just about any other center? Yes, that seems likely.
@[censored] @Keith00 @Amnesty Perkins @FF_pickups It's not ideal because of fouls. Durant probably does the best job actually bothering Lebron's shots, but it's not like Durant would shut him down anyway. Durant is more important to us being on the floor than the defensive improvement he makes against Lebron (Lebron is going to go off no matter who is guarding him).
@Amnesty Perkins @[censored] @Keith00 @FF_pickups For a starter, it probably is the worst. Any other coach would have pulled him from the lineup.
@Amnesty Perkins @FF_pickups @[censored] The problem is Perkins would be a net negative in ANY minutes he plays. Further, it's difficult to seriously reduce minutes when you start that player every half. Remember that a one-big lineup forces KD on Lebron a lot, which isn't ideal either. What would be best in beating Miami would be a single big that could dominate the boards or paint.
@[censored] @FF_pickups @Amnesty Perkins To be fair, there's no evidence to suggest Perkins would see a reduced role in ANY series. Brooks has played him against all logic in important games the entire time he's been here. I think we would have made the finals with Westbrook still.
@Bry Bry I'm not 30 yet, so I only saw the LA years of Shaq, but I think Lebron was just as dominant. Shaq was a dominant scorer, but you could beat him when he was defending and ultimately the whole hack-a-Shaq thing worked. Lebron beats you everywhere on the court.
@The Device @iamOkc That's silly, but not outright unreasonable. In our most recent series we struggled to close out a less talented Rockets team. Memphis just went 4 straight against the higher seeded Clippers. Comparing opponents, Memphis probably should be better.
@Legendary_Dork I'd rather Miami face Indiana than NY. NY I think gets demolished, despite the regular season wins. They don't defend, and Miami has the players to shut down NY's Melo-centric audience. I want Miami to fight through a grueling slug-fest.
@anonymous12345 @Keith00 I don't think we win a 7 game series. Their defense is too darn good, and would find a way to stop KD from being a one man wrecking crew by then. I agree the whole series could be close, with the Grizz pulling off one big win at home, and both teams stealing a game on the road.
I think this makes game 2 incredibly intriguing. On one hand, they defended us really well and that frontcourt advantage isn't going anywhere. On the other, Serge Ibaka can't possibly play that poorly for more than one game, right? Martin played above his head today, but our outside shooting was well below average and should return to normal at some point. This series may be a toss-up.
@ErickAF From what I understand there has never been a unanimous vote for MVP ever. The fact someone voted for Carmelo, though, he should have his voting privileges revoked. I mean, a few people taking KD over Lebron - likely wrong, but not crazy. Anyone choosing Melo over Lebron AND KD - that's just dumb.