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@Nate Dunlevy @rogcohen @hankster
It's a bit mixed, I'm in a hurry, but to summarize, of the top 20 receivers in yards last year (using 21 cause i'm including james jones. Wasn't near the top in yards, but lead in TDs) it breaks down as follows:
Top 10 pick - 5
Rest of 1st round - 4
2nd round - 1
3rd round - 3
4th round - 3
5th round - 0
6th round - 0
7th round - 2
UDFA - 3
Obviously QB etc have a lot do with it, but as a quick break down it helps
I like the tape breakdown, thanks! I'm really torn on the free agents this year. However, all it really does right now is give me something to talk about while waiting for the season to start and we see what these guys can do.
I would be a bit disappointed with the FA signings, except the big name free agents almost never work out anyway. In free agency (and it is almost unique in sports in this regard) quantity can easily trump quality. I do feel like we overpaid, but if even two of our FAs turnout to be great acquisitions, then we're we'll ahead.
Also, I think there was a definite vision with the signings. I think next year the Colts are going to be a much tougher team physically than we have seen in 15 or more years. Let's just hope there's talent with the toughness.
@Nate Dunlevy @smonroe Great point Nate. To often we as fans expect all our draft picks to be starters or solid contributors, but in reality a large percentage of picks never really perform in the NFL at a high level. I've decided that it's better to judge drafts as a whole (IE if your 7th round pick turns into a good player, that covers for a 2nd round pick who failed to become a good player...) I don't lump UFAs in as that's just a crapshoot and I don't really give GMs much credit when they end up being really good. If the GMs thought they'd be pro bowlers they would have drafted them in the first. I do believe certain teams have more of an institutional control to give UFAs a real chance. Bah, now i'm just rambling to avoid work....
I like this guy. Hope his knees are fully healed so he get's a chance to contribute.
@Nate Dunlevy @hankster I missed the assault on WRs. My feeling on them (cause I always have two cents :) is that after top 10 pick talent, it becomes much more of a crapshoot. There's usually a WR every year who just stands out, but after that they seem like RBs, in that there is a ton of value in late round and undrafted WRs.
@MarcusDugan @rogcohen Last year was the "Monster need talent" draft. This year was the actual "build the monster" draft.
Never know how these things will work out, but I like that the current group seem to have strategies going into the draft.
3 year starter and was a lead blocker on the best rushing team in the ncaa. Definite potential. like this pick as it fills what i had as our biggest remaining area of need.
So was he selected as a C or a G? Wasn't sure about this pick, but he was very productive a couple years ago, and was slowed down by injuries last year. Colts need Oline help, and he definitely fits the bill. Hope he becomes our next Saturday.
Maybe I'm weird, but I don't think he was picked necessarily as a NT. This guy is very athletic for his size. My initial thought is him playing as a situational DE on short yardage and goal line sets.
Man, the Colts definitely went for mean, hard-hitting, play with an edge players in this draft! Like this pick a lot.
I'm excited about Denodus O'Bryant - ridiculously productive at a low level. stout, fast and good hands
Dan Moore - heard him compared to Kuhn. That's great praise
Daxton Swanson - Accounted for well over 10% of all interceptions of Johnny Football last year.
CO Prime - Just cause I like his name
@paulcareyjr @matt_has doesn't he have his own show now? Ugh, I wish he'd just go back to Canada, not a fan of that guy, in large part due to the comments eddie back when he had his radio show.
@paulcareyjr Also, Imean to ask what you mean about Jerry Hughes? Jerry was a 3-4 pass rusher coming into the NFL, and the colts tried to convert him to a 4-3 DE, and that's where it all went wrong. Also, Jerry was supposed to be very athletic but weak, while Bjorn is supposed to be non-athletic but strong. I just don't get your comparison at all, they are completely different players and play styles.
@bradicus18 @paulcareyjr Used Chris cause about 1 1/2 years ago there was an article on coltszilla and quoted on 18to88 about how great Chris was and how all these teams offered him jobs. There was a big love fest in the comments, and I asked them to reference their sources. Turned out he wasn't offered jobs and the Coltszilla dude just flamed the hell out of me. it's just a point of bitter pride that I always thought he was crap, and I know lots of people around here really liked him two years ago.
@paulcareyjr @cwjwl He hasn't been good for the last two seasons, and he probably never will be again. Other teams know this.
@paulcareyjr Bah, Freeney is the next Addai. Someone everyone defends around here even though the production and play sucks (please note, I'm saying that as in the last year or two with the Colts, not career wise), then when they leave the Colts, they don't do anything. Chris Polian also springs to mind as a board favorite who was awful, but will never do anything outside the Colts.
We fall in love with our own and get blinded to the reality of the situation.
@paulcareyjr @TheGreatMisdirect That argument makes no sense! Your dismissing Bjorn stats because they came in the first two weeks, but defending Dion's lack of stats? Remember, Bjorn was also second in the ACC in passes defended last year. That indicates a certain instinctual awareness and ability to be versatile!
@paulcareyjr They got rid of Freeney cause he was old, injurded, wanted lots of money, and couldn't play at a high level any more. not because of position.
@TheGreatMisdirect I like the pick. I will take college production over the combine any day. Think he fits really well into the Colts defensive scheme (we need to stop with this 4-3 vs 3-4. we play a hybrid defense.)
Much prefer Bjorn to Dion Jordan. Dion is a workout wonder who didn't really play that well last year. To put it in perspective, Bjorn led the ACC in sacks (would have been second in the Pac-12) Dion was tied for 24th in the Pac-12 in sacks. Bjorn was 2nd in the ACC in tackles for a loss, Dion was 3rd - on his team!
Dion will be the next Vernon Gholston.
@Nate Dunlevy I'm holding off on my final decision on the Davis trade. He showed some potential as the year went on last year, but I think this year will decide whether it was worth it. Obviously the contract situation has to be taken into account too. Having said that, we made the playoffs last year...