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@DWB

Of course these days black women are much too "uppity" and "independent" with "attitudes" so they are switching to Latina Immigrant women. 


Gotta find someone to do all of these icky jobs around the house.

7 hours, 5 minutes ago on Shonda Rhimes Hands NY Times WW Writer Her Hindquarters on Social Media

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@DWB @Brenda55

They dig her big time also.

7 hours, 13 minutes ago on Shonda Rhimes Hands NY Times WW Writer Her Hindquarters on Social Media

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Alessandra Stanley


It would seem that Ms Stanley is not very well thought of.

http://gawker.com/tag/alessandra-stanley


Maybe SHE is a tad angry.

9 hours, 43 minutes ago on Shonda Rhimes Hands NY Times WW Writer Her Hindquarters on Social Media

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@dani-BBW

From the Vulture article posted above:

"As it turns out, any black female character — and many black female real-life human beings — can be labeled an Angry Black Woman. That way, their ideas can be ignored, marginalized, and dismissed."

10 hours, 3 minutes ago on Shonda Rhimes Hands NY Times WW Writer Her Hindquarters on Social Media

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@Man With No Name


MODERATOR'S NOTE:

You are currently in violation of this sites terms of service which prohibits people posting under more than one screen name. 


Please delete this duplicate account and go back to your original screen name.

10 hours, 48 minutes ago on QOTW: “Should I Worry If the White Guy Macking On Me Has No Black Friends?”

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She just could not resist the ABW moniker now could she.

Man with no name. THIS  is the kind of stuff I am talking about. But I guess we ladies should just take the high road and be the better person. 

11 hours, 4 minutes ago on Shonda Rhimes Hands NY Times WW Writer Her Hindquarters on Social Media

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@Man With No Name @Brenda55 @Leo19


Well that is not how I read this exchange we are having.  I see it as an expectation on your part for black women to be more virtuous that other human being. As if we black women have to be this way in order to somehow balance the scales of life in our favor since we are some how lacking.


I see this as othering.  That othering happens so many times and in so many areas of black women's existence.


We are not bigots for promoting ourselves and raising our own self esteem by outlining our strong points. 


We are as human as any other soul on the face of the earth and that includes all that is good and bad that humans can do. It is almost as if you are telling us that we should be better than all those other people who have no issue when it comes to gaining an advantage at black women's expense. 



11 hours, 24 minutes ago on QOTW: “Should I Worry If the White Guy Macking On Me Has No Black Friends?”

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@Man With No Name @Brenda55 @Leo19


I for one will not lose sleep over that possibility.  As it stands now black women  would not lose  much.


It is just one more item on a very large pile.

15 hours, 30 minutes ago on QOTW: “Should I Worry If the White Guy Macking On Me Has No Black Friends?”

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@Man With No Name @Leo19


When you are faced with overwhelming attitudes in private and in public on the part of non-black women as to their undesirability and worth what kind of reaction do you expect?


If no one else including the men you shear  your race with, is tooting the horn for you you toot your own. 


Black women have to face denigration our our selves from many quarters so we on this site make no apologies for pushing back.  We are sick of it and we are going to have our say and we will not be told to shut up about it.


Now to expect the women here to be nice, polite  to take the high ground and turn the other cheek is all well and good to say when one is not in her position. 


Some guys get it.  Others don't. It is for you the opposite side of the coin that we black women face daily.  As a white man you have female friends and relations who are also white and you know for a fact that they are not monsters.  Thus you do not like what is sometimes posted on this site.


Well we black women have male friends and relations who are as black as we are and we know for a fact they they are not monsters. 


Yet we are being trampled under foot. Some one is doing that trampling and the look like us and they look like you and we are going to talk about that full throated. 


Black women are finding their voice and we are not about to shut up just to make every one else comfortable. We tried it that way, it does not work and black women are none too healthy because of it.  No more.


Now I do not expect you or any one else visiting this site to like all of what is posted here but you are in our space.  One that is primarily for black women. One for black women to say what they get shouted down about elsewhere.  We are not going to take this space away from them. 


If any thing use this space as a learning experience of what is really on many black woman's minds.  Accept it for what it is.  It may save you some unnecessary grief and provide understanding when your women comes home feeling some kind of way.  It may help you understand her and point you in the right direction of giving her the support she needs and wants from you. 



17 hours, 17 minutes ago on QOTW: “Should I Worry If the White Guy Macking On Me Has No Black Friends?”

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@dani-BBW

Very classy. I can remember some of the scenes that inspired parts of the collection.

1 day, 10 hours ago on Kerry Washington Collaborates With The Limited For Scandal Clothing Collection

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@tonyrog @BWC @Brenda55

A pointer? Wow.  All we got was a 12 inch ruler for that. They made sure they used the flat side though.

1 day, 10 hours ago on Why are Some Folks Defending Child Abuse as ‘Black Culture?’

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@BWC @Brenda55

Did you ever get the ear twist?  I lucked out and never got them boxed.  Guess that one was out of fashion by the time I went to school.

1 day, 12 hours ago on Why are Some Folks Defending Child Abuse as ‘Black Culture?’

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I was raised in the corporal punishment era. Dad felt that is was not his place as a man to beat on his kids. That had to do with his size and strength. So mom was the disciplinarian in the home. Spankings was woman's work it seems.


Back then even your school teacher could lean you across her desk and hit you with the classroom yard stick or pointer. I guess that was considered more civilized than canning. I can tell you from personal experience that the yard stick and pointer were no better than the cane.


While I have no children of my own I do have younger siblings so picked up the habit that I had learned across my mother's knee. Then one day it stopped making sense and the school forbade beating students and I realized that inducing fear in my younger siblings sucked. There had to be a better way.


There many practices that while traditional are now frowned upon.  Tradition is no longer accepted as an excuse for so many things so why not with beating with the hell out of one's child?  Oh.That's right it is our culture and solidarity demands that we not speak ill of each other in  public since we, especially black men, are under siege from forces outside of our community. Too many of us see no issue with sacrificing a four year old on the solidarity alter even though the knowledge of where a child is at developmentally at that age is easily obtained. 


The knowledge that there are safer and more effective ways to discipline and modify children's behavior is out there for those who want it. This is not about trying to don another culture's ways.  It is about being open to incorporating current best practice, no matter the source, for the betterment of our own culture. Especially since our old traditional tried and true method is too often bearing bitter fruit. 


Time to evolve past the lash.

1 day, 13 hours ago on Why are Some Folks Defending Child Abuse as ‘Black Culture?’

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@kiki jones @Daisy_inthe_Field @WorldTravelingChic

MODERATOR'S NOTE:


OK.  I get it. BB&W is not your cup of tea. There is no need to continue to hector us on that point.  We read you loud and clear. We get that you are unhappy with the tone, opinions and especially the moderation of the site.


No, we are not going to change what we are doing and how we do it to suit your singular self. This is our house and while we do realize that the happiness of our readers is paramount  and key to the continuing sucess of the site we are aware that not everyone is going to be happy or agree with what we do and how we do it. That is how it is with every public endeavor.


In a word BB&W cannot be all things to all people but as luck would have it we do not have to be.  You have many options for your online pleasure. 


We are going to relieve you of the burden of continued participation on this site. That is pretty much what you are asking for. So be it and let the chips fall where they may. 


Good-by and God speed.



1 day, 16 hours ago on QOTW: “Should I Worry If the White Guy Macking On Me Has No Black Friends?”

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I'd wear this stuff.   While the show jumped the shark for me long ago I have to admit  I love the character Olivia's style.

Nice to see this offshoot from the show.

1 day, 20 hours ago on Kerry Washington Collaborates With The Limited For Scandal Clothing Collection

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@Daisy_inthe_Field @Zetahille @Brenda55


MODERATORS NOTE:


OK I just read through the headache inducing and in my opinion silly exchange  between the two of you.


Not going to ban either one since as disagreeable as you both have behaved on this thread neither of you quite violated our Terms of Service.


Now if the game here is to bait the other poster into doing something to get banned forget it. I have enough other things to do on this site in addition to moderating it.  I will not be used in that fashion nor do I have time for it. 


Just agree to disagree and do not engage each other in the future.




1 day, 22 hours ago on Stay Away from Sociopathic Men Who Wish to Corrupt and Shackle You Via Single Motherhood!

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@Statuesque @kiki jones @face in the crowd

"Put that shoe on the other foot and the logic doesn't quite hold up."


Precisely


"I think you are confusing ignorance/lack of experience with dislike/inability to acculturate or get comfortable with people from a different culture."


Reads to me as if whites are guilty until proven otherwise. At least according to some folks.

2 days, 9 hours ago on QOTW: “Should I Worry If the White Guy Macking On Me Has No Black Friends?”

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@ZacOnbothsides

Oh don't feel bad.  You were being a nice person taking another person at their word.  It is not your fault that the other person lacked integrity.  The fault is on the two dingle-berries who started this whole mess not you. 

2 days, 11 hours ago on Opinion: On Defending Danielle Watts

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@kiki jones @Brenda55 @The Working Home Keeper @BWC


Why thank you for the last word.  Bowing out gracefully is always a classy move.


Ta Ta.

2 days, 11 hours ago on QOTW: “Should I Worry If the White Guy Macking On Me Has No Black Friends?”

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@kiki jones @Brenda55 @The Working Home Keeper @BWC


Well we can go on and on with this now can we?  Does not really change a thing. No need to waste anymore of each other's time. 


Calm down a bit dear. Putting so much emotion into participating on these sites is not at all healthy. Your real life is not in front of your computer screen.

2 days, 11 hours ago on QOTW: “Should I Worry If the White Guy Macking On Me Has No Black Friends?”

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@kiki jones @Brenda55 @The Working Home Keeper @BWC

I did not take what you said personally. You are but a nameless, faceless person keyboarding text on a internet blog.  Nothing more. Get over yourself you are not at all significant enough in my life to personalize anything you post..

2 days, 11 hours ago on QOTW: “Should I Worry If the White Guy Macking On Me Has No Black Friends?”

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@kiki jones @Brenda55 @The Working Home Keeper @BWC


Oh no.  There is no anger hon you are just being checked for what you posted.

2 days, 11 hours ago on QOTW: “Should I Worry If the White Guy Macking On Me Has No Black Friends?”

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@kiki jones @Brenda55 @Christelyn  @face in the crowd

kiki why is this any of your business?


You do you.  If anyone is demonstrating defensiveness  as well as narrow-mindedness it is you. 


Who died and made you the judge of how a black person defines themselves?


Why the hell do any of us have to pay you any attention? 

2 days, 11 hours ago on QOTW: “Should I Worry If the White Guy Macking On Me Has No Black Friends?”

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@face in the crowd

The Soul Patrol are those self appointed black people who claim as their mission in life the duty to tell other black people how to be black, judge other black people for being, acting and living black enough.


The joke of course is that these nags have no real power but love to bore people to tears with their social litmus tests.

2 days, 11 hours ago on QOTW: “Should I Worry If the White Guy Macking On Me Has No Black Friends?”

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@kiki jones @The Working Home Keeper @BWC


It is not daunting nor is it something to be ashamed of.

2 days, 11 hours ago on QOTW: “Should I Worry If the White Guy Macking On Me Has No Black Friends?”

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@Christelyn Look these two clowns sucked a lot of people. I am just glad that no one got hurt or lost their jobs because of these two fools.


Remember news stories develop over time and there is always a back story. Believe half of what you see. Some or none of what you hear.

2 days, 12 hours ago on Update on Danielle Watts: BB&W Exclusive Interview with Boyfriend, Brian

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@BWC @Christelyn  @face in the crowd

I will go you one farther. The experiences of black people from other parts of the world will be much different. African Americans do not corner the market on what it means to be a black person. Narrow mindedness is not a good look.

2 days, 13 hours ago on QOTW: “Should I Worry If the White Guy Macking On Me Has No Black Friends?”

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@Christelyn  @face in the crowd Yes. That is no way to make friends and influence people.

I find it interesting that those who have a broader world view are now considered white identified. As if the black community in America is the end all and be all.  This is what I was getting at when I spoke of limitations before.


Why get put off by some of the opinions expressed here regarding how an individual chooses to live their life. No black person has to pass some sort of test in order to be black.  I nor any black person has to define what it means to be black the same way. We do not have to answer to anyone on this point. Me thinks we have representatives of the fabled Soul Patrol in our midst.

2 days, 13 hours ago on QOTW: “Should I Worry If the White Guy Macking On Me Has No Black Friends?”

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@Lisa_Lisa


Thanks for that.  Much appreciated. Truly.

2 days, 16 hours ago on Update on Danielle Watts: BB&W Exclusive Interview with Boyfriend, Brian

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@WorldTravelingChic @Brenda55


Thanks for your response. I enjoy hearing the experiences and perceptions of non-AA black people on a variety of issues.


We do not walk in lock step and the experiences of non-AA black people are far different from my own as a black person born in the U.S. 

2 days, 16 hours ago on QOTW: “Should I Worry If the White Guy Macking On Me Has No Black Friends?”

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@MikeStStation

The more information that comes out about this situation the more I smell set up.

I now beleive that Watts was attempting to precipitate a race confrontation with the police department.


It is not going in that direction because the cops have also filmed and recorded what went down. I guess she was not counting on that.

2 days, 16 hours ago on Opinion: On Defending Danielle Watts

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@Keioni @Brenda55

That is why you ask for clarification first. Works off line as well especially in long term relationships.


Reading too much into things and between the lines online makes for a very unsatisfying experience. 


No one came close to saying the things that you perceived above. No one. 

2 days, 16 hours ago on QOTW: “Should I Worry If the White Guy Macking On Me Has No Black Friends?”

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@Keioni

Is it possible for you to not be so darn confrontational when you post? We are supposed to be having a friendly conversation here.


I was responding to WorkingHomekeeper and agreeing with her by telling my story.


I also stated what I found limiting.....FOR ME.... re. the black scene.  It is a big world out there with many different people to meet and many different experiences to have. I also stated that I come from a diverse and long swirling family. So where is the problem with what I posted.


Pretty simple and non- controversial stuff actually.

2 days, 17 hours ago on QOTW: “Should I Worry If the White Guy Macking On Me Has No Black Friends?”

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I made a bet with SirLoin that more women would like this week's offering more than men.  We will see.


My vote. I like the selection and think these women look fabulous. Would not mind looking like some of these young women myself. 

2 days, 17 hours ago on SirLoin’s Babe Wenesday: Ab-solutly.

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@The Working Home Keeper @Keioni

I'm with you.  The majority black scene was never my thing either.

I found it too limiting.  There is a big world out there and a lot of different kinds of people to meet.


I went to diverse schools and lived in diverse neighborhoods. I worked in diverse work settings. My family is racially diverse also. Swirling has been going on in my family for generations.


I did not care at all that Keith had no black friends when I met him. That was not even on the table for me in the vetting process.


2 days, 17 hours ago on QOTW: “Should I Worry If the White Guy Macking On Me Has No Black Friends?”

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Just a quick question.

Is this ones of these AAbw issues?

Do AAbm worry about this stuff when they swirl?

Do African women worry about this stuff when they date non-African men?

How about you ladies from the Islands? From Europe? Is this a concern?

Dose your man have to have friends from your culture before you consider him datable?

2 days, 21 hours ago on QOTW: “Should I Worry If the White Guy Macking On Me Has No Black Friends?”

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@321ZYX @Justme65 @_Toni_

"Just don't play those dumb mind games and expect the man to go chasing after you because we won't...those days are long gone and NOT coming back."


You know I hear this from white men a lot.  It is one of the major complaints about women of their own race and one of the main reasons that they are widening their dating pool to include non-white women. They are not about to go through all that while swirling. With a wider dating pool is it far too easy to find a women who will not engage in all that silliness. 


No games. No end runs. No jumping through a bunch a needless hoops. Just bring it direct and lets just enjoy each other's company. That is what I often here from guys.

2 days, 21 hours ago on #OnlineDating Success…She Made the First Move.

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@DWB

What? You got something against excitement?

3 days, 10 hours ago on Opinion: On Defending Danielle Watts

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@fleiter


Still thinking the location and act was no accident.

3 days, 10 hours ago on Opinion: On Defending Danielle Watts

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@Beautee_85


I have been peeking in over there also. I agree.

3 days, 13 hours ago on Video Discussion: How to Tell if He/She is Into You

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@Lala88

"Be upset that she made a fool out of herself not the media for putting it on display. It wasn't so private when she decided to do what she did where she did it!"


Thank-You.

3 days, 15 hours ago on Update on Danielle Watts: BB&W Exclusive Interview with Boyfriend, Brian

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@Marysayz

MODERATORS NOTE:

You cut that comment of yours a little too fine my dear. Be careful next time.

3 days, 23 hours ago on Celebrity Interracial Couple, Daniele Watts and Partner Detained by L.A. Police Who Mistook Her for Hoe and Her “John”

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@DWB @Brenda55 @tonyrog

D. D. D.  What ever is one to do with you?  Naughty man.

4 days, 7 hours ago on Update on Danielle Watts: BB&W Exclusive Interview with Boyfriend, Brian

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